Chamber vs. Wolverine... ?

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Lucid Lui
These two have come close to fighting a couple of times. And though I'm probably gonna kick myself later for making a Wolverine thread, i'm hoping some coherent debating will emerge.

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Chamber
Chamber Respect Thread

vs.

Wolverine

Fight takes place on the X-Mansions front lawn. Characters fight in character. The winnah?

juggernaut66666
Chamber

Metalmanx
Chamber for the win!

Lucid Lui
What about his claaaaws?!?

juggernaut66666
Originally posted by Lucid Lui
What about his claaaaws?!?
those are very scary

capt it up
I think wolverine would win, but I not a huge reader of chambers. How ever does chambers powers only do about as much damage as they did to wolverine in days of the future past? If so then logan can take this. also jono has no superhuman agility or reflex. there a chance logan could speed blizt him before he even go to fire a single attack

juggernaut66666
now even wolverine can SPEEDBLITZ eek! laughing

capt it up
Originally posted by juggernaut66666
now even wolverine can SPEEDBLITZ eek! laughing
you don't have to be quick silver to speed blizt. to speed blizt is to attack some one with out them being able to react which wolverine has done many times. All your need to have is superior speed to your opponets which wolverine does have

Lucid Lui
Originally posted by capt it up
I think wolverine would win, but I not a huge reader of chambers. How ever does chambers powers only do about as much damage as they did to wolverine in days of the future past? If so then logan can take this. Actually, Jono's powers weren't even written correctly in that series. Tieri's always written Jono's powers basically as fire, when it's actually concussive psionic energy. his whole body's made up of it. And it's shown to be extremely powerful.

Originally posted by capt it up
also jono has no superhuman agility or reflex. there a chance logan could speed blizt him before he even go to fire a single attack What exactly does he do when blitzing him?

wolvertooth
capt it up .... dont you understand? no matter how much you will prove your point ... they are know that you are right but they just want to get on your nerves man .... you already gave a good point why he should win while enyone exept you didnt give any point for chamber.... its another spite thread they open all those threads vs wolverine just to bash him and laugh so dont even post in threads like that

juggernaut66666
Originally posted by Lucid Lui
Actually, Jono's powers weren't even written correctly in that series. Tieri's always written Jono's powers basically as fire, when it's actually concussive psionic energy. his whole body's made up of it. And it's shown to be extremely powerful.

What exactly does he do when blitzing him?
he will fly against chamber

capt it up
Originally posted by Lucid Lui
Actually, Jono's powers weren't even written correctly in that series. Tieri's always written Jono's powers basically as fire, when it's actually concussive psionic energy. his whole body's made up of it. And it's shown to be extremely powerful.

What exactly does he do when blitzing him?
he moves faster then jono can react just as he did when he took out a bunch of soldiers guns with out them seeing it.

If jono reflex are only human he going to have a real hard time firing his blast off if there in the 20 foot range.

Lucid Lui
Originally posted by wolvertooth
capt it up .... dont you understand? no matter how much you will prove your point ... they are know that you are right but they just want to get on your nerves man .... you already gave a good point why he should win while enyone exept you didnt give any point for chamber.... its another spite thread they open all those threads vs wolverine just to bash him and laugh so dont even post in threads like that This isn't a spite thread and i'm not going to outright ignore any points brought up in favour of Logan.

All i'm interested in is a solid debate. Prove to me that Wolverine wins, i'll try and do the same for Chamber.

Soleran
Lord no, speedblitz by Wolverine, please say this is a HUGE joke.

wolvertooth
if he couldnt even react to wolverine how is he going to beat him? wolverine needs one shot with him .... he got only human reflexes which are far under wolverines .... what can he do ?

Lucid Lui
Originally posted by capt it up
he moves faster then jono can react just as he did when he took out a bunch of soldiers guns with out them seeing it.

If jono reflex are only human he going to have a real hard time firing his blast off if there in the 20 foot range. Yeah, i know he'd be able to blitz Jono. in no way do i think Chamber is faster, i'm asking what Logan's actually going to do to Jono? Stab him? Punch? Kick?

capt it up
when I get home I make a solid arguement for this thread with scanns and other forms of evidence. im at school at the moment but I be home to night

capt it up
Originally posted by Lucid Lui
Yeah, i know he'd be able to blitz Jono. in now way do i think Chamber is faster, i'm asking what Logan's actually going to do to Jono? Stab him? Punch? Kick?
yes stabb him and such. His head is still human correct or has jono evolved so that he is now just energy?

xmarksthespot
Originally posted by Soleran
Lord no, speedblitz by Wolverine, please say this is a HUGE joke. It's not. Among those susceptible to the crazed Canadian's speedblitz are apparently the Invisible Woman, Storm, Shadowcat, and telepaths according to some.

wolvertooth
Originally posted by Lucid Lui
Yeah, i know he'd be able to blitz Jono. in no way do i think Chamber is faster, i'm asking what Logan's actually going to do to Jono? Stab him? Punch? Kick?

he is going to cut his head, arms legs everything... he is going to trash all his body ... wolverine is a savage killer thats what he will do and chamber isnt fast enough to avoid it .... wolverine on the other hand even if he gets hit he can heal and atack right away

Lucid Lui
Originally posted by wolvertooth
if he couldnt even react to wolverine how is he going to beat him? wolverine needs one shot with him .... he got only human reflexes which are far under wolverines .... what can he do ? Indeed, if they're close enough Logan is going to get the first hit in. But what exactly is he going to do? Chop his head off? Topic states that they're fighting in character, Logan doesn't go around chopping former teammates heads off (and that might not work anyway). So what's he gonna do to take out Chamber before Chamber starts fighting back?

illadelph12
This is pretty one-sided. You all are aware that currently Chamber has Apocalypse's ability set at a near Omega level, right?

Lucid Lui
Originally posted by illadelph12
This is pretty one-sided. You all are aware that currently Chamber has Apocalypse's ability set at a near Omega level, right? Sorry, forgot to specify this is Pre-HoM Chamber. Considering we've seen nothing of his supposed Omega power there's no point including it here.

xmarksthespot
Originally posted by illadelph12
This is pretty one-sided. You all are aware that currently Chamber has Apocalypse's ability set at a near Omega level, right? I don't buy the Omega thing. Pete Wisdom's baseless labelling does not an Omega make.

wolvertooth
Originally posted by Lucid Lui
Indeed, if they're close enough Logan is going to get the first hit in. But what exactly is he going to do? Chop his head off? Topic states that they're fighting in character, Logan doesn't go around chopping former teammates heads off (and that might not work anyway). So what's he gonna do to take out Chamber before Chamber starts fighting back?

now you just speculate that he wont attack because he is a good guy or something, wolverine was showen many times to get into berserk rage and attack his friends, and its not drama its a fight, so we concider the fact what will happen if those too will go at it full power, yes he can cut his head and his whole body to pieces

Lucid Lui
Originally posted by wolvertooth
now you just speculate that he wont attack because he is a good guy or something, wolverine was showen many times to get into berserk rage and attack his friends, and its not drama its a fight, so we concider the fact what will happen if those too will go at it full power, yes he can cut his head and his whole body to pieces Please, Logan's not going to go beserk and kill a friend. He's got more control than that. As a Wolverine fan you of all people should know that.

but for your argument, let's say he does just try to skewer Jono. Isn't going to work...
1. http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/1282/uncxmen40037hq2.jpg

wolvertooth
Originally posted by Lucid Lui
Please, Logan's not going to go beserk and kill a friend. He's got more control than that. As a Wolverine fan you of all people should know that.

but for your argument, let's say he does just try to skewer Jono. Isn't going to work...
1. http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/1282/uncxmen40037hq2.jpg

can you even compare?? he got electric hit.... and he released his powers against his enemy.... now lets say he loses his head and arms before he can even react

wolvertooth
the question is can chamber go on without a body?

Lucid Lui
Originally posted by wolvertooth
can you even compare?? he got electric hit.... and he released his powers against his enemy.... now lets say he loses his head and arms before he can even react He was stabbed through the chest with an electric spear.

Originally posted by wolvertooth
the question is can chamber go on without a body? Dunno if he can go forever without a body. He has reformed his body after total destruction before though.
1. http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/2491/genxannual9737dv5.jpg
2. http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/8562/genxannual9738sl0.jpg

capt it up
if joron can do all this what was the piont of making this thread?

Lucid Lui
Originally posted by capt it up
if joron can do all this what was the piont of making this thread? Entertainment?

Metalmanx
Originally posted by capt it up
I think wolverine would win, but I not a huge reader of chambers. How ever does chambers powers only do about as much damage as they did to wolverine in days of the future past? If so then logan can take this. also jono has no superhuman agility or reflex. there a chance logan could speed blizt him before he even go to fire a single attack

Speed-blitzing Jono would the absolute WORST move Wolverine could do. You DO know where Jono's power is, right? It will be facing Wolverine. He just has to think it, and Wolverine is blown away. Speeding up that process would be Logan's worst possible decision.

wolvertooth
so basically he can just regenerate himself? alright... thats a true spite thread

capt it up
Originally posted by Lucid Lui
Entertainment?
so this was a bash thread? you created this to lure wolverine fans, how cleaver. Happy Dance

Metalmanx
...What the f**k?...

Going against my better judgement, I will respond to this.

...Wolverine regenerates himself. Does that make every thread he's in a spite thread? What the f**k?

wolvertooth
wolverine can die, chamber as i saw even if he can then not from being cut dont compare the two

Lucid Lui
Originally posted by capt it up
so this was a bash thread? you created this to lure wolverine fans, how cleaver. Happy Dance Not really, i did this to get some exposure for Chamber. And for threads around here to get some decent discussion time, they normally have to involve the more popular characters. i figured since these two have come to blows before it was a good thread.

Jono's also been KO'ed by 6 point blank gunshots to the chest before. He's been physically KO'ed before aswell. I never stated this match was to the death. In fact, since the character are fighting character it shouldn't even be thought this would be to the death. And we've yet to establish if Chamber could take Logan out either. i expected more of an argument there. How does Jono get around Logan's vaunted heling factor?

capt it up
Originally posted by Metalmanx
...What the f**k?...

Going against my better judgement, I will respond to this.

...Wolverine regenerates himself. Does that make every thread he's in a spite thread? What the f**k?
jono made of energy that a lot different then healing. how do you defeat energy?

wolvertooth
Originally posted by Lucid Lui
Not really, i did this to get some exposure for Chamber. And for threads around here to get some decent discussion time, they normally have to involve the more popular characters. i figured since these two have come to blows before it was a good thread.

Jono's also been KO'ed by 6 point blank gunshots to the chest before. And we've yet to establish if Chamber could take Logan out either. i expected more of an argument there. How does Jono get around Logan's vaunted heling factor?

if wolverine cant kill him that how good is fighting him? wolverine will just get more and more hurt, i didnt say wolverine loses but chamber cant be killed here so its a spite

wolvertooth
alright that was my last statement here have a nice day

Lucid Lui
IT"S NOT TO THE DEATH.

Edited above post:

Jono's also been KO'ed by 6 point blank gunshots to the chest before. He's been physically KO'ed before aswell. I never stated this match was to the death. In fact, since the character are fighting character it shouldn't even be thought this would be to the death.

badabing
Originally posted by capt it up
jono made of energy that a lot different then healing. how do you defeat energy?
You call Hulk. eek!


http://img78.exs.cx/img78/7231/blip28zw.jpg



shifty

capt it up
lol. wolverine could Ko chamber for a win, but killing seems out of the question

Metalmanx
Originally posted by capt it up
jono made of energy that a lot different then healing. how do you defeat energy?

That's a damn good question. Perhaps wolvertooth knows the answer.

Chamber for the win. His blasts are hella powerful and concussive at that. And they're always activated, so I see no chance for Wolverine here.

Lucid Lui
Originally posted by capt it up
lol. wolverine could Ko chamber for a win, but killing seems out of the question Ok. But how's he going to KO him before Chamber lets loose with his own power?

Power enough to KO Omega Red...
1. http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/76/generationx1117lp1.jpg

wolvertooth
well lets see, if its not fot the kill, and if a bullet can ko him , wolverine can make much more damage then a bullet, plus he can create more presure then a bullet, so i say he can ko him

wolvertooth
wolverines healing factor is better then the one omega has , and as i stated before wolverine is much faster then chamber he can attack first i mean it takes some time for chamber to attack, if someone could hit him with a bullet and wolverine was showed to move faster then a bullet then i say he can hit him without problem

Lucid Lui
Originally posted by wolvertooth
well lets see, if its not fot the kill, and if a bullet can ko him , wolverine can make much more damage then a bullet, plus he can create more presure then a bullet, so i say he can ko him He was taken by surprise and shot point blank with six bullets to the chest. And he was only out for a few moments.

Lucid Lui
Originally posted by wolvertooth
wolverines healing factor is better then the one omega has , and as i stated before wolverine is much faster then chamber he can attack first i mean it takes some time for chamber to attack, if someone could hit him with a bullet and wolverine was showed to move faster then a bullet then i say he can hit him without problem All it takes for Jono to attack is to think it. I don't think Wolverine's going to have taken him out by then...

wolvertooth
how far are they from each other?

Lucid Lui
For anyone who's interested, here's the skirmishes these two have had in comics...

Weapon X #18
1. http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4461/weaponx1808nw9.jpg
2. http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/3913/weaponx1809xa4.jpg
3. http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/9045/weaponx1810cl9.jpg

Weapon X: Days of Future Now (not in continuity)
1. http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/4456/weaponxdofn117ad3.jpg
2. http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/4628/weaponxdofn120qx5.jpg
3. http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/6742/weaponxdofn121qk8.jpg
4. http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/3109/weaponxdofn122rm6.jpg

wolvertooth
well those scans prove my point, yes chamber can hit wolverine faster but wolverine can take the heat and he will ko chamber thrue his powers ... wolverine takes it

Metalmanx
Originally posted by Lucid Lui
All it takes for Jono to attack is to think it. I don't think Wolverine's going to have taken him out by then...

You're exactly right. Unless Wolvie is already within arm's length of Chamber, Chamber can think just a bit faster than Wolverine can act.

capt it up
Originally posted by Lucid Lui
For anyone who's interested, here's the skirmishes these two have had in comics...

Weapon X #18
1. http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4461/weaponx1808nw9.jpg
2. http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/3913/weaponx1809xa4.jpg
3. http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/9045/weaponx1810cl9.jpg

Weapon X: Days of Future Now (not in continuity)
1. http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/4456/weaponxdofn117ad3.jpg
2. http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/4628/weaponxdofn120qx5.jpg
3. http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/6742/weaponxdofn121qk8.jpg
4. http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/3109/weaponxdofn122rm6.jpg
that first 3 scanns was not even a fight it was all set up by logan. also what issue is that from.

wolvertooth
my confusion about this thread was from the fuct i saw chamber only once and i didnt know half the things i just found out about him , but with all the facts now... he hits wolverine first but wolverine can take the heat due to the healing factor and he can ko him

xmarksthespot
It's not fire. no expression

Lucid Lui
Originally posted by wolvertooth
well those scans prove my point, yes chamber can hit wolverine faster but wolverine can take the heat and he will ko chamber thrue his powers ... wolverine takes it And what if Chamber actually presses his attack instead of walking away like he did in the second fight? And then talking some more instead of attacking again?

And in the first skirmish, Logan doesn't come back at him until after Iceman cools him off. Suppose Chamber had pressed the attack then aswell?

But as i've previously stated, Jono's power isn't being written properly there anyway. His power isn't fire, it's concussive psionic energy which as shown to be very powerful.

wolvertooth
its energy i know, still wolverine can take it, i mean yes he took out omega red but wolverines healing factor is better, even if the energy blast wolverine back i say he will still get up and will go forward, and as we saw he can do it to, he walked right to chamber thrue his powers

Lucid Lui
Originally posted by capt it up
that first 3 scanns was not even a fight it was all set up by logan. also what issue is that from. That would be why i called them skirmishes.

it happens in Weapon X #18.

capt it up
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60og9gwKh1o


this kid beats them both

wolvertooth
do you have scans to show his full power? its hard to debate with a character that you dont know about his limits

Lucid Lui
Originally posted by wolvertooth
do you have scans to show his full power? its hard to debate with a character that you dont know about his limits Yep, there's a link to his respect thread in the first post of this topic.

badabing
Originally posted by wolvertooth
do you have scans to show his full power? its hard to debate with a character that you dont know about his limits
It's good to see that you have emerged from your little crazy trip. cool

capt it up
Originally posted by badabing
It's good to see that you have emerged from your little crazy trip. cool
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60og9gwKh1o Happy Dance

Lucid Lui
Originally posted by wolvertooth
its energy i know, still wolverine can take it, i mean yes he took out omega red but wolverines healing factor is better, even if the energy blast wolverine back i say he will still get up and will go forward, and as we saw he can do it to, he walked right to chamber thrue his powers Chamber's blasted through solid titanium. Like i said, it's concussive energy, if Chamber does a big blast like he did to Omega Red, Logan's not going to be walking through that.

Or to put it better, is Logan going to be walking through something like this?
1. http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/2660/generationx6106dg0.jpg
2. http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/5950/generationx6107qn1.jpg

wolvertooth
Lol ... its good to have a nice talk instead of trash talking smile

wolvertooth
well.... after the force he used against juggernaut wolverine gets ko , but he can heal himself after a short time, then after sime time he can hit chamber and ko him he will have that chance after a while i think , but then chamber gets up and well.... its a circle i would say dont know

Lucid Lui
Originally posted by wolvertooth
well.... after the force he used against juggernaut wolverine gets ko , but he can heal himself after a short time, then after sime time he can hit chamber and ko him he will have that chance after a while i think , but then chamber gets up and well.... its a circle i would say dont know Alright, sounds good. Nice debating with you. smile

Now... i must eat!

wolvertooth
Lol thanx... bonapetit

srankmissingnin
Chamber would win he backs enough fire power to down Wolverine. Didn't Chamber once explode and reconstruct his body or something... anyway Jono is bad ass and would beat Wolverine the sound majority.

Lucid Lui
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Didn't Chamber once explode and reconstruct his body or something... Yep, after beating D'Spayre. i posted the scans a couple of pages back, and their in the respect thread.

srankmissingnin
Originally posted by Lucid Lui
Yep, after beating D'Spayre. i posted the scans a couple of pages back, and their in the respect thread.

Yeah I thought I remembered him doing that... too much comic knowledge in the ol' noggin to keep it all straight sometimes though.

Soleran
This thread deserves to be have a sticky lol

Lucid Lui
Why's that?

Soleran
I retract my statement now since you have to ask that question.

Gah.....................

Lucid Lui
laughing

Soleran
pirate bunny winkiss

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