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Just a thought..why is Jack randomly doing that Buddha thing?..Buddists do that when they are trying to calm themselves and find piece of mind..and back then I doubt people from christian backgrounds would know anything about that..do you think its something he picked up living in Singapore at some point? Is that their Religion there? Buddhism I mean

Jack is SO deep as a character if thats the case..he's such an enigma lol..

Elizabeth is also looking over at him whilst he's doing that..although its not really obvious or anything..but she appears to be watching him.

maybe he was doing some medatation to control his hornyness towards liz lol i dunno

LMAO!! maybe!

But its just funny how he loves singapore and if that is their religion then it means Jack may have picked something up from there...we gotta remember this is before TV and stuff so he must have learned it face to face from a monk or something...and it also hints that Jack is rather spiritual.

yea. maybe thats why he seems so calm and mostly uses his brains then violence. it is a mayor possibility. maybe we'll see that at the directors commentary for that scene

maybe hes just trying to clear his mind to find the chest....

yea I agree but back then people around British "owned" places didn't really know about that kind of spiritual technique unless he saw it face to face and someone told him..I have a feeling its a little hint about singapore and his time he spent there..if that is their religion there ...not saying Jack is religious but he might be spiritual..He's doing the whole thing..the hands and everything...I have a feeling someone might have taught him..maybe Sao feng lol..He's really scared about Davy (as the black spot has appeared) and he's having a bit of trouble with Elizabeth lol just before hand

It just adds this whole background story on to Jack and his past ..he's not really 1 dimensional and it seems as if Liz is realizing it..and I have a feeling she's going to learn that in the next movie 2..

haha i love that part. yeah Jack totally has some deep history with singapore... i mean in his line "clearly you've never been to singapore" you get the impression that he just visists once in a while, but the more hints come out, the more you start thinking, no way man, he's LIVED there for LONG STRETCHES of time before, lol.

speaking of which, is Jack meant to be 100% british, or was his father british and his mum asian or carib? or what? cause he sure doesnt look British!

yeah apparently he was born British colonial in India or something lol..


how can Liz not be drawn to his man?? He's an enigma..and I think Liz really is interested in him in that way (or she will be when she learns more in movie 3)..as if she's trying to figure him out..I think she's got closer than anyone else has so far

OMG I just realized!..Jack needs to return home with his elixir..and I bet he sees his home as singapore..and now his elixir is heading right there after him lol

When is the Buddha pose? Can you do a picture of it? I don't necessarily means Jack is a Buddhist, just that he is more open and accepting than most people of that time. Look how easily he accepts women on his ships (romantic partners at the time or not), he doesn't seem to make any distinctions as far as race or class go, and the whole reason he's a pirate in the first place is because he refused to transport slaves. He was ahead of his time.

i dont think Jack is buddhist... i think he is ECLECTIC... and he has seen more of the world than most people, and is continuously wound up in legendary stuff like Davy Jones... so he's bound to be spiritual, though i doubt he's committed to one religion or anything.

he's WAY ahead of his time.

and he's half indian?!?! thats SO HOTTTTTT. Excuse me while i freak out about how hott that is. If Liz continues to go for the dork over this daring half indian rogue pirate, that will be completely non-believable and will ruin the movie. im sorry. i like will but he's a dork. WHO would WILLINGLY go after him when JACK is around? it doesnt make sense. its dumb. GEEEEE.

nah he's not a buddist..I just think he has learned some of their traits..you dont have to be a buddist to meditate to feel calm..which is what I mean by spiritual..I just think he's picked up their technique in singapore possibly from a friend or something..you dont see medatation taught to british kids or people in church

heres a pic BTW:

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/3798/potc233tf2.jpg

and the clip..he actually has his eyes closed..also notice how when the swords are in a triangle (whilst all 3 men in Liz's life are there) there's a shot to establish Jack's being the only one pointing at her through Will.

"love triangle" lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMIt04kheN4

How many of you read in one of these threads my theory that Jack was the son of the governor of Singapore. I guess Willofthewisp did because she included some of my imagination on fanfiction. Jack has been a student of the world for a long time, but most of his gestures are COURTLY not feminine, hence his standing in society in England as a lad. It is not inconceivable that Jack learned calming technics from other cultures. I am just surprised that he has used rum as the base calming one, til the beach scene. it's like T/T said, "Jack is an ambivalent
character". So, they have written a character that no one can figure out. He is too much the chameleon.

I also said that he would probably retire from the sea with Elizabeth and be a land owner, with Will taking over the Royal Navy and heard alot of you say, "No, not good."

Jack has already been in the employ of EITC and refused to haul slaves, thus raising the ire of Lord Beckett, ultimately being branded a pirate. I do not see him ever accepting EITC under any circumstances, unless his early family background/fortune was in the orginal founding of the EITC. I hope Beckett gets his because those Letters of Marque were for Jack Sparrow, signed by King George, not Will or Norrington. As I have said before Beckett's deal with Liz/Will is a side deal to get Jack back in the EITC where someone other than Beckett wants him. Think about it, mates.

have i said lately how much i love Jack? seriously.

so you can imagine his daddy... a nice young captain in India, meets a pretty Indian lady, they get married and have kids... or just one kid... or maybe Jack has siblings??? (he seems like a middle or youngest child... def. not oldest unless he is an only child)

anyhow, his mom dies and he joins the EITC, fights the powers, ends up a pirate.

so was there a falling out between him and daddy? Did Captain Grant know Beckett? What caused Grant to become a pirate? Was Grant or Jack a pirate first? Are they on speaking terms?

I would imagine Grant knows Beckett then... right?

I cant wait till Beckett and Jack see each other again. Thats going to be INTENSE>

Katelovespirate I agree with you..I cant wait for them to meet up..I'm not sure his dad is a pirate..

I can imagine him leaving the pirate life to be with Elizabeth because it is drawing to a close..but maybe not the the sea all together..

I agree about the letters signed by the king though they were for Jack from the king right?. I get the feeling his father is probably in charge of some sort of naval something or other..and he maybe took his son around with him on the sea as a child..which may mean he has his prim and proper upbringing..but it seems as a teenager he cut losse and became a bit of a rogue

I can imagine Jack falling out with his dad because of the slave thing..

If I was Liz i would TOTALLY choose to go with Jack..so INTERESTING...Will is BORING...Jack could take her all around the world..show her things.. he'd get alot from that too lol someone to be with him on his journeys..ya jnow..he deserves it lol..

IMO she's going to show an interest in certain aspects of his past in movie 3

no way man, jack is branded for life. he's a pirate. him and the pearl are going to sail those seas forever. lol.

I think the whole Buddha pose is just to prove how random JAck Sparrow is....just comes to show that you never really know what crazy think he is going to do next!

Originally posted by PirateDiva
I think the whole Buddha pose is just to prove how random JAck Sparrow is....just comes to show that you never really know what crazy think he is going to do next!

no back then people didnt just randomly do that kind of thing...its not like today where we all know about what to gain from medatation..from TV, books etc..he must have been taught it by someone in Singapore I checked it out and buddism is their main religion..Jack seems to adore the place..and thats where movie 3 is set


"Religion in Singapore

Most Singaporeans celebrate the major festivals associated with their respective religions. The variety of religions is a direct reflection of the diversity of races living there. The Chinese are predominantly followers of Buddhism, Taoism, Shenism, Christians, Catholics and some considered as 'free-thinkers' (Those who do not belong to any religion). Malays have the Muslims and Indians are Hindus. There is a sizeable number of Muslims and Sikhs in the Indian population."

http://www.singaporeexpats.com/about-singapore/culture-and-language.htm

back when PotC was set..it was mainly chinese people there.

I stand corrected...lol!

I could be wrong lol..its just an assumption of mine but it just seems as if later in movie 3 we are going to learn something in Singapore that links back to why he's doing that and when we look back at movie 2 it wont be so random.



It seems as if this movie is packed full of little hints like that ..things that will only be significant once we see movie 3..me thinks

No it's very true...considering the fact that both movies were shot at the same time! we should be looking for more things like that! I think pirates 3 is going to entertwine a lot with pirates 2...it just has too! so i totally agree!

Originally posted by katelovespirate
no way man, jack is branded for life. he's a pirate. him and the pearl are going to sail those seas forever. lol.

I dunno..I just think he's going to be a captain..thats what he seems more passionate about really..more than being a pirate..he's not really the best pirate ever..its like he tries to be but that darn caring nature keeps creeping back..

IMO a pirate life the way he lives it is not making him happy

Just being branded, that cant really make a man turn from a life where he just took responsibility for 99 slaves to sets them free..into the kind of man we meet in movie 1/early movie 2..who is afraid to take responsibilty in life .As of late in movie 1 Jack Sparrow is a bit of a weakling in life by the time Liz gets to the truth on the beach..that was the whole theme of movie 2..he's scared of responsibilty..and just being branded pirate made him turn like that? I dunno..something has happened to him in his past me thinks..just after Bekett did that to him

It reminds me of Nala and Simba in that cheese filled "Can You Feel The Love Tonight":

remember Simba was once a brave king/prince but his dad died and he feels that its his fault..he's now a rogue who doesnt want any form of responsibility in life.

Nala has seen the brave side of simba as a kid

"So many things to tell her, but how to make her see..the truth about my past? Impossible. She'd turn away from me." - Simba/Jack

"He's holding back he's hiding. But what I cant decide..why wont he be the king I know he is. The king I see inside" - Nala/Liz

"you're a brave man I know you are"

"I love those moments..I love to wave at them as they pass by"

dude is totally running away from some kind of past trauma where he feels he's responsible for someones death or something...me thinks

Hey LovelyOne thanks for the back story on CJS. That is not what I read, but sounds simular. I have not read anything on his family. All the EITC and his family involvement is all in my head where CJS has seriously been for three years and counting...I swear I am going to have some real heavy withdrawal after AWE. I have now seen DMC 15 times and 3 of those were yesterday.

Sounds good to me. Simple and easy to remember.

wikipedia can be wrong though ..they were wrong about his real name being smith lol...I think you may be right about the dad having some sort of importance in singapore in the past

and because he was born in India doesnt mean he lived or grew up there It seems as if singapore is his homeland..his dad may have been incharge of soemthing there for a long time

you've seen it 15 times?? OMG..wow this movie has really captured people a lot..the first one didnt really do that did it?..its totally this whole Jack/Liz aspect

im pretty sure jacks daddy was like a sailor..never was a pirate..and maybe lost contact with his son after jack decided to become a pirate...i dunno just a wild guess

by the way im still unclear about jacks past.

I have watched COTBP every day, either all or parts since July 12th and I had seen it 4 times before that. CAPTAIN Jack Sparrow has captured me.

I agree that the back story is going to pull it all together in AWE. But, since Disney has decided to release worldwide on the same day because of the plot twist, what can that be? J/E, Jack returned to England by EITC for trial, ??????. Anybody got any ideas.

uuhhh,nope

not at all

Hmmmm id like to know also!! Plot twist huh....i didnt know that!! I knew it was gonna be a worldwide release but i didnt know it was because of a plot twist!! Hmmm!!

Probably Will killing sumone

LOL....but we know that is a possibility!!

Maybe it's oh i dont know!!!

its possible for will to kil someone for the sake of his dad. dont u remember on the scene with jack when jack asked what if enemies show up or watever and will said "ill slash anyone who stands in my way"

And Jack in Singapore might stand in his way? I hope not. Yes, I think Singapore is where we will learn about his past.

Not to burst your bubble, Kate, but he doesn't have to have any Indian blood in him to be born in India. It was a colony of England, although his looks kind of suggest something other than straight Brit.

Being half Indian would be really cool. I want to meet his mom. Nobody has a mom! I bet Mother Sparrow is really pretty and cool.

i know right no mom's u think that means something?

i love how in COTBP they introduced Liz dad!

in DMC we saw Will's dad!

and in AWE we are going to see Jacks dad....I Love it!! They all have family!!

lol just noticed that

yea all the mothers died..damn i hope liz wont become JACKS lol babys mom and die too!

lol that'd be kinda funny in a way

..funny?? it would be awefully sad!!!

I just read on KTTC that Liz is to kill Jack at the end of AWE? Isn't that what happened in DMC, or did I miss something?

I also heard today that Disney plans to re-release DMC in January. Hum, I wonder if that is in anticipation of the Oscars.

I am posting a new thread about my adventure at DMC showing on Thursday night. Come read it...

re-releasing? how?
when r the Oscars?
lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-g3fVSflnC4

wait im confused...re-releasing

yeah, how?

Lots of movies get rereleased, but it's usually because that movie is having an anniversary. I remember being like 11 and my mom took me to see Snow White. It had been rereleased for its 60th anniversary. And too, a lot of movies get released when the director decides to put in extra scenes. They did that with Bladerunner if anyone has seen that piece of rubbish. I am so excited it will be back in theaters.

i don't think jack is buddist.. he was born in British colonial India, so he's religion (if it is ;D) is religion of Britain in that time.

Originally posted by akanai
i don't think jack is buddist.. he was born in British colonial India, so he's religion (if it is ;D) is religion of Britain in that time.

yeah I never said he was one but he loves singapore..and ont you think its a bit more of a coincidence that the next movie is set in singapore and buddism is their main religion over there..and he's sitting like that..medatating?..I think he's just picked up a few calming techniques from different cultures and Jack adores singapore it seems...

Originally posted by calypso
I just read on KTTC that Liz is to kill Jack at the end of AWE? Isn't that what happened in DMC, or did I miss something?

I also heard today that Disney plans to re-release DMC in January. Hum, I wonder if that is in anticipation of the Oscars.

I am posting a new thread about my adventure at DMC showing on Thursday night. Come read it...

LMAO...like they would do that again..is that in the spoiler section?

OMG kttc ppl need to go to rehab or something and need to stop taking drugs man

when r the oscars? i always 4get

Usually in February or March to celebrate the previous year.

oh... what channel?

Jack talks everytime as if he were a Christian: quotes Dante on hell, and mentions Judgement to Bootstrap Bill.

for the 10th time..I'm not saying he's not a Christian..I'm saying he just seems to have picked up some of Singapore's culture mannerisms..

i agree, lovelyone. maybe he's a christian, but it wasn't said that he can't have some habits he sed to have when he was in Singapore.