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Team 1

1 Silver Surfer
2 Reed( no prep people)
3 Sue
4 Human Torch
5 Thing

verus


Team 2 ( Avengers)

1 Thor
2 Vision
3 Captain America
4 Ironman
5 Giant Man (pym)
6 Wasp

In character or not? Can Sue just brain-bubble kill most of team 2?

Besides that, Reed is pretty much invulnerable, and the Surfer is a powerhouse beyond team 2's capacity.

Eh, I'll go with the Fantastic Four group.

Thor can fight Surfer for a while. While the rest battle it out.

Originally posted by Faceman
Thor can fight Surfer for a while. While the rest battle it out.

Classic Surfer and Thor would be a well-argued match. Current Surfer, though? I think he'd take a few more out of the majority. Besides that, the Surfer is easily the fastest out of any here, and can multi task like a mother. Hell, he might be able to solo team two.

Originally posted by Soljer
Classic Surfer and Thor would be a well-argued match. Current Surfer, though? I think he'd take a few more out of the majority. Besides that, the Surfer is easily the fastest out of any here, and can multi task like a mother. Hell, he might be able to solo team two. Same can be said about Thor...

Originally posted by Faceman
Same can be said about Thor...

Errmmm...Thor has never shown the kinds of speed that the Surfer has(his best speed feats include moving "Almost faster than mortal eyes could follow" and swinging his hammer at multiples of lightspeed. Even compared to the Surfer's WORST speed feat, Thor is outclassed.), nor a mastery of multi tasking while using complex abilities....

Originally posted by Soljer
Errmmm...Thor has never shown the kinds of speed that the Surfer has(his best speed feats include moving "Almost faster than mortal eyes could follow" and swinging his hammer at multiples of lightspeed. Even compared to the Surfer's WORST speed feat, Thor is outclassed.), nor a mastery of multi tasking while using complex abilities.... Im referring to the fact that Thor could probably solo, the four.

Thor and SS could each hold each other off for a while, but I think FF take the avengers. If you gave the avengers prep w/o giving it to RR then it could be different.

radd/ff

Team 1 for the large majority

Surfer solos. He will eventually beat Thor, who will be the only one left after Surfer blinks the rest of this weak Avengers lineup into nonexistence/another galaxy/hypno-sleep/whatever in the first split second of the fight.

I think the real trouble card in the line up is going to be Vision since he can go intangible and phase ppl into the ground or his hand into them and when he is phased I'm not sure Sue's FF will do anything to him.

I don't think SS is soloing this team. I'd like to see him beat just Thor one on one once in a comic first.

Team two. Thor and Surfer is a push, and the Avengers would beat the rest of the FF. In a prepless environment, Pym owns the living hell out of Richards, and could likely down down a few of the F4 on his own. You also have Tony's firepower, Cap's leadership, and Vision and Wasp running interference.

people seem to forget johnny still has the cosmic control rod....this is spite

^ Good point.

The real question here is: would Vision be able to go threw the shield of Sue? If he can't, than F.F. wins. If he can, F.F. are dead.

Visions tried and he couldn't. FF wins