Northstar vs. Kid Flash

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King_Mungi
Current Northstar vs. Bart Allen

edit: damn wrong forum, request to be moved to the vs. forum

Black Adam
This topic reminds me that I got start picking up some TT trades..


Only read the OYL later stuff.

King_Mungi
Originally posted by Black Adam
This topic reminds me that I got start picking up some TT trades..


Only read the OYL later stuff.

I just have to get the latest trade that was released a month ago I believe

I'm enjoying TT: OYL. Little slow, and didn't like the Red Star issue.

Accel
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Current Northstar vs. Bart Allen

edit: damn wrong forum, request to be moved to the vs. forum
Ha, ha, this is like your second mistake in the last week isn't it?

stick out tongue

King_Mungi
Originally posted by Accel
Ha, ha, this is like your second mistake in the last week isn't it?

stick out tongue

Probally, I don't remember the first though. cool

jumpmann
worst mods why hasnt this been moved!

and kid flash beats northstar in .00000001 seconds

King_Mungi
Originally posted by jumpmann
worst mods why hasnt this been moved!

and kid flash beats northstar in .00000001 seconds

Ummm..Northstar can go light speed as well.

Northstar bio: http://alphanex.alphaflight.net/index.php/Northstar

jumpmann
Kid Flash is faster than the speed of light...

And I'm pretty sure Northstar doesn't think that fast.

Black Adam
Originally posted by jumpmann
Kid Flash is faster than the speed of light...

And I'm pretty sure Northstar doesn't think that fast.


if speedsters didn't think as fast as they ran they would Crash into walls and people every time they used there powers...

jumpmann
Green Lanterns travel the universe like I walk but they definitely don't think that fast.

inamilist
Originally posted by jumpmann
Green Lanterns travel the universe like I walk but they definitely don't think that fast.

thats a really good paradox...


however, its probably valid to assume that a hero, regardless of how fast they think, is capable of using their powers the way they have been shown to

that means, even if there is no reason to think that northstar can think fast enough to move at light or post light speeds, it is probably ok to assume that using his power of lightspeed movement isn't going to be detremental

obviously there are limits, i dont think lightspeed in this case is a good one though

Draco69
Originally posted by jumpmann
Green Lanterns travel the universe like I walk but they definitely don't think that fast.

If they didn't, they would be crashing into stars and planes like bugs to a windshield...

Validus
GL's usually fly through space on auto pilot.

King_Mungi
Originally posted by jumpmann
Kid Flash is faster than the speed of light...

And I'm pretty sure Northstar doesn't think that fast.

Show me where he has done anything faster than the speed of light

He does as mentoned he was even running faster than mach 18.7 across Canada dodging between buildings and cars

Draco69
Kid Flash is faster than light. In order to get remotely close to the SpeedForce, you have to surpass light.

Which Kid Flash has done...numerous times.

Kid Flash can just makes clones of himself out of the timestream.

A dozen faster than light little bastards...

King_Mungi
Originally posted by Draco69
Kid Flash is faster than light. In order to get remotely close to the SpeedForce, you have to surpass light.

Which Kid Flash has done...numerous times.

Kid Flash can just makes clones of himself out of the timestream.

A dozen faster than light little bastards...

Like? because DC interviews said light speed=speed force.

Kid Flash can't do that anymore due to one of his clones died and hasn't used that ability since

Draco69
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Like? because DC interviews said light speed=speed force.

No. It goes:

Light>Time>Dimension>Speed Force.

You HAVE to surpass light and everything other barrier to reach the Speed Force.

The Speed Force is pure unlimited "speed".

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Kid Flash can't do that anymore due to one of his clones died and hasn't used that ability since

He CAN do it. He just doesn't want to since he was rather tramuatized by it.

King_Mungi
Originally posted by Draco69
No. It goes:

Light>Time>Dimension>Speed Force.

You HAVE to surpass light and everything other barrier to reach the Speed Force.

The Speed Force is pure unlimited "speed".

He CAN do it. He just doesn't want to since he was rather tramuatized by it.

Light speed is required to enter the speed force, and by doing that your speed increaes expeditionally. Plus he won't be going bang right into the speed force as stated and shown you need momentum to do something like that

He can, but doesn't. It's out of his list of powers as if this is written to how they are portrayed in comics that's not something he would use. He has a mental block

Lord Prime
Kid Flash wins speed force owns light speed, and lets not for get he can steal speed.

Draco69
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Light speed is required to enter the speed force, and by doing that your speed increaes expeditionally. Plus he won't be going bang right into the speed force as stated and shown you need momentum to do something like that

Of course. It takes time (like a few seconds) but Kid Flash doesn't need to enter the Speed Force

Originally posted by King_Mungi
He can, but doesn't. It's out of his list of powers as if this is written to how they are portrayed in comics that's not something he would use.

He probably wouldn't...unless he's absolute bloodlust.

Kid Flash still has vibrational powers which Northstar lacks.

Validus
I believe the Light>Time>Dimension>Speed Force thing only applies to people who aren't naturally connected to the Speed Force like the Flashes are. If Superman wanted to enter the SF he'd first have to break those barriers. Wally and current Bart can open the SF whenever they want. Lower tier SF users like Jay and Max Mercury would have to hit Light Speed.

Draco69
Originally posted by Validus
I believe the Light>Time>Dimension>Speed Force thing only applies to people who aren't naturally connected to the Speed Force like the Flashes are. If Superman wanted to enter the SF he'd first have to break those barriers. Wally and current Bart can open the SF whenever they want. Lower tier SF users like Jay and Max Mercury would have to hit Light Speed.

Stupid Speed Force...

Easier to get into Harvard...with a total of 700 on your SATS.

King_Mungi
Originally posted by Lord Prime
Kid Flash wins speed force owns light speed, and lets not for get he can steal speed.

Show me when Kid Flash has stole someone's speed

Originally posted by Draco69
Of course. It takes time (like a few seconds) but Kid Flash doesn't need to enter the Speed Force

He probably wouldn't...unless he's absolute bloodlust.

Kid Flash still has vibrational powers which Northstar lacks.

What? no it doesn't, it took a couple seconds for Flash to cross states to build enough speed to give Gordd a massive blow.

Yep that works, but Northstar has more experience, flight and the flashbang.

Draco69
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Show me when Kid Flash has stole someone's speed

I don't think he can. He COULD be he wasn't experienced enough to do that.



Originally posted by King_Mungi
What? no it doesn't, it took a couple seconds for Flash to cross states to build enough speed to give Gordd a massive blow.

That's not Flash at his best...

erm

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Yep that works, but Northstar has more experience, flight and the flashbang.

The flight would be problem.

Kid Flash can however just implode the air by adding friction to it.

jumpmann
Kid Flash=The Flash now btw.

He has the entire speed force fused into him...beat the entire Speedforce Northstar LOL.

King_Mungi
Originally posted by Draco69
The flight would be problem.

Kid Flash can however just implode the air by adding friction to it.

Except there are more apperances and comments just like that, he can't go right into the speedforce instantly

Light speed flight could

Kid Flash has never shown that skill, and meh! Northstar has incredible durability

Originally posted by jumpmann
Kid Flash=The Flash now btw.

He has the entire speed force fused into him...beat the entire Speedforce Northstar LOL.

Thanks I know, hence why I said Kid Flash not Flash.

manjaro
whoa ppl lets not jump the gun here...i know northstar just got his near-SOL upgrade..but cmon now he's been this way for what 2 issues now..Bart is what northstar hopes he'll grow up to be one day, i cant believe ppl are having such a serious debate over this

King_Mungi
Originally posted by manjaro
whoa ppl lets not jump the gun here...i know northstar just got his near-SOL upgrade..but cmon now he's been this way for what 2 issues now..Bart is what northstar hopes he'll grow up to be one day, i cant believe ppl are having such a serious debate over this

Actually I have more issues of Flash than I do Alpha Flight, Bart is still inexperienced and lacks skills. People are confusing feats Flash has done with Kid Flash as their not even close to being on the same level.

Northstar could always go lightspeed.

Grimm22
Bah, current Bart is an emo, thus he's a chump

jumpmann
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Thanks I know, hence why I said Kid Flash not Flash.
Same person though. Why do so many people like arguing about vast incarnations of characters. =/

jumpmann
V=P in my language btw.

King_Mungi
Originally posted by jumpmann
Same person though. Why do so many people like arguing about vast incarnations of characters. =/

Same person, but I stated what incarnation I wanted. I even stated what incarnation I wanted of Northstar, if I wanted Flash I would have said Flash. No way would the twins even compete against him, that's why I picked the less experienced, less skilled Kid Flash.

King KAM
Originally posted by Grimm22
Bah, current Bart is an emo, thus he's a chump agreed, emo sucks

inamilist
Originally posted by King KAM
agreed, emo sucks

if only all internet debates were this easy

emo = worst crap ever. period.

jumpmann
You said Bart Allen!

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Current Northstar vs. Bart Allen

King_Mungi
Originally posted by jumpmann
You said Bart Allen!

Yeah but read the vs. title.."Northstar vs. Kid Flash" and then I said which Kid Flash not Bart Allen as Flash

manjaro
bart allen as kid flash is still boss...this is the guy who read the entirety of a library just cuz he got tired of ppl thinking he's stupid, and he continues to update his inexhuastible memory by reading every newspaper, periodical, and scince journal all across america on a daily basis...... the guy who is always spouting scientific facts, and incorporating them in his attacks.....i mean real crazy ass comic book science no less...can anyone say IMP?...Northstar is out of his league here

Horrificus
um, isn't it illegal for Northstar to be hanging out with Kid Flash?

Blair Wind
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Show me when Kid Flash has stole someone's speed


The titans of tomorrow story line shifty


......at least I think thats what it was called.

King_Mungi
Originally posted by manjaro
bart allen as kid flash is still boss...this is the guy who read the entirety of a library just cuz he got tired of ppl thinking he's stupid, and he continues to update his inexhuastible memory by reading every newspaper, periodical, and scince journal all across america on a daily basis...... the guy who is always spouting scientific facts, and incorporating them in his attacks.....i mean real crazy ass comic book science no less...can anyone say IMP?...Northstar is out of his league here

Northstar can read at super-speeds as well

Wow, running across the country, so has Northstar

IMP? NO! Kid Flash has never shown that level of skill...god, this is annoying the hell out of me. He isn't Flash

King_Mungi
Originally posted by Blair Wind
The titans of tomorrow story line shifty


......at least I think thats what it was called.

I know I have read that, but that's when he was Flash.

manjaro
huh? the point was to show that kid flash told the titans that he reads every newspaper in the country every single day...i really dont think they both would engage in a speed reading contest.. bart sent wally flying on a pillar of water hundreds of feet in the air while they were racing across the SF bay...in fact his exact words were " did you know when water is boiled into steam the volume increases about sixteen hundred times and transfers the energy between molecules into whatever it hits?" then BLOOOOOOOOSH!!!!!(coolest sound effect i could come up with) the point is he has ooodles of scientific facts stuck in the back of his photo graphic head, that he applies to his powers as he sees fit... cuz of all the stuff he reads on a daily he seems to have a penchant for the science stuff moreso than anything else

as far as the IMP when wally did that, that wasnt a case of power...he went thru some little narrative of barry allen schooling him on "flash facts", .....something about when an object is traveling at the speed of light its mass increases to infinty or some dumb shit like that, then BLOOOOOOSH!!! the stupid martian went skipping across three continents, so since bart can not only travel at the speed of light but surpass it, an IMP shouldnt be beyond his abilites...look Northstar finally can officially do light speed now, and im happy for him cuz all his previous bios always said that he has the potential to do it, but lets not ramp him up as some uber, unconquerable bad ass all of a sudden, just cuz he punked a few X-men wink

King_Mungi
Originally posted by manjaro
huh? the point was to show that kid flash told the titans that he reads every newspaper in the country every single day...i really dont think they both would engage in a speed reading contest.. bart sent wally flying on a pillar of water hundreds of feet in the air while they were racing across the SF bay...in fact his exact words were " did you know when water is boiled into steam the volume increases about sixteen hundreds and transfers the energy between molecules into whatever it its?" then BLOOOOOOOOSH!!!!!(coolest sound effect i could come up with) the point is he has ooodles of scientific facts stuck in the back of his photo graphic head, that he applies to his powers as he sees fit... cuz of all the stuff he reads on a daily he seems to have a penchant for the science stuff moreso than anything else



as far as the IMP when wally did that, that wasnt a case of power...he went thru some little narrative of barry allen schooling him on "flash facts", .....something about when an object is traveling at the speed of light its mass increases to infinty or some dumb shit like that, then BLOOOOOOSH!!! the stupid martian went skipping across three continents, so since bart can not only travel at the speed of light but surpass it, an IMP shouldnt be beyond his abilites...look Northstar finally can officially do light speed now, and im happy for him cuz all his previous bios always said that he has the potential to do it, but lets not ramp him up as some uber, unconquerable bad ass all of a sudden, just cuz he punked a few X-men wink

*sigh* Northstar retained the information he read at super-speed as well. Wow, that means absoluetly nothing, you don't think Northstar can do that? So basically what you just said is nothing impressive. How often did he even use his new found intelligence in battle? rarely, so don't make it seem he is like a super genius.

blah...blah...Kid Flash never did it so don't act like he has. If that were the case than Northstar can do an IMP delivering at light speed. No, Northstar and Aurora could always go light speed it wasn't about potential. Northstar use to battle against skyfather beings with Alpha Flight, did you know that? probally not. Yeah lets make it seem Kid Flash can do all the exact same things Flash can and is just as skilled and knows how to use to his full potential roll eyes (sarcastic)

great_dane
kid flash would steal his speed and viabrate through him

King_Mungi
Originally posted by great_dane
kid flash would steal his speed and viabrate through him

Vibrate he could do, but Kid Flash has never stole anyones speed before. God, don't mix Flash feats

great_dane
your right. either way, kid flash 10/ 10

bigbran
Originally posted by great_dane
your right. either way, kid flash 10/ 10 I don't see how anyone can take you seriously.
This is coming from the guy that thinks Flash could beat Eternity.

great_dane
no, no,. eternity would beat the flash if they were to somehow fight. everyone was saying that the flash wasnt able to kill him. but i was saying how he COULD. they were saying he couldn't period. but in the dcu, the flash never used his powers to their fullest because he feard of the univese itself getting pulled into the speedforce causing it to implode

bigbran
Originally posted by great_dane
no, no,. eternity would beat the flash if they were to somehow fight. everyone was saying that the flash wasnt able to kill him. but i was saying how he COULD. they were saying he couldn't period. but in the dcu, the flash never used his powers to their fullest because he feard of the univese itself getting pulled into the speedforce causing it to implode No, no he couldn't.

He would never even be able to affect Eternity.

hitemup
Originally posted by great_dane
no, no,. eternity would beat the flash if they were to somehow fight. everyone was saying that the flash wasnt able to kill him. but i was saying how he COULD. they were saying he couldn't period. but in the dcu, the flash never used his powers to their fullest because he feard of the univese itself getting pulled into the speedforce causing it to implode

thats true Happy Dance

galan7777777
why did u steal that sig great dane?

King_Mungi
Originally posted by great_dane
your right. either way, kid flash 10/ 10

Doubtful, he may get the majority but it wouldn't be 10/10

bigbran
Originally posted by hitemup
thats true Happy Dance You also stole someone's sig.

And he's wrong.

great_dane
why do you say that?? i said my point of view, whats yours?? so your saying that this would be unable to happen?

King_Mungi
you talking to bigbran or me?

great_dane
bigbran

bigbran
Originally posted by great_dane
why do you say that?? i said my point of view, whats yours?? so your saying that this would be unable to happen? Of course.

My view, is that he would do nothing to Eternity.
Plus, Eternity is not only a universe, but he's a universe that actually fights back.

great_dane
o. great argument......

so because he's a "universe that fights back"

that automatically erases all of the flash's powers and abilities??

bigbran
Originally posted by great_dane
o. great argument......

so because he's a "universe that fights back"

that automatically erases all of the flash's powers and abilities?? Nope. But I also haven't seen proof that Flash could beat him. Or could even make him flinch.
Flash's powers shouldn't even be compared to eternity.

great_dane
THAN WHY ARGUE??

i havn't seen proof that eternity could beat him.

i can say the same thing dude.

bigbran
Originally posted by great_dane
THAN WHY ARGUE??

i havn't seen proof that eternity could beat him.

i can say the same thing dude. I'll get some proof, if that's what you want.

But this should also not even be a question.

galan7777777
Originally posted by great_dane
THAN WHY ARGUE??

i havn't seen proof that eternity could beat him.

i can say the same thing dude. it took Thanos /w/ the IG to beat Eternity....... There is no way a guy that runs really fast would have the power to take out any abstract level beings wink

King_Mungi
Odd it says galan7777777 posted last but I can't see his post and he isn't on ignore

bigbran
Originally posted by galan7777777
it took Thanos /w/ the IG to beat Eternity....... There is no way a guy that runs really fast would have the power to take out any abstract level beings wink Thanos HOTU, also said that LT, Eternity, Infinity, were the most powerful there.
ANd that was the WHOLE Marvel universe!

galan7777777
Originally posted by bigbran
Thanos HOTU, also said that LT, Eternity, Infinity, were the most powerful there.
ANd that was the WHOLE Marvel universe! yep! eternity, infinity, and LT battled Thanos /w/ THOTU the longest, and as you said all of the most powerful beings in the MU were there wink

King_Mungi
Odd my comp must be messed as now galan7777777's posts are showing. Anyways went from Kid Flash vs. Northstar to Flash vs. Eternity...haha oh well, continue.

galan7777777
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Odd my comp must be messed as now galan7777777's posts are showing. Anyways went from Kid Flash vs. Northstar to Flash vs. Eternity...haha oh well, continue. well great dane made the claim that flash could defeat Eternity, so we had to correct him roll eyes (sarcastic)

King_Mungi
Originally posted by galan7777777
well great dane made the claim that flash could defeat Eternity, so we had to correct him roll eyes (sarcastic)

It's fine, I was getting annoyed with the claims of Kid Flash able to do everything Flash can do.

Roldz
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Odd it says galan7777777 posted last but I can't see his post and he isn't on ignore Maybe subconsciously you have him on ignore list..lol
back on topic... Kid Flash 6/10...

King_Mungi
Originally posted by Roldz
Maybe subconsciously you have him on ignore list..lol

back on topic... Kid Flash 6/10...

cool ...maybe

I can agree to that

galan7777777
Originally posted by King_Mungi
cool ...maybe

I can agree to that aww c'mon do i annoy u that much? embarrasment

King_Mungi
Originally posted by galan7777777
aww c'mon do i annoy u that much? embarrasment

no, I don't think I have seen one posts of yours that has....be happy *nods* :P

galan7777777
Originally posted by King_Mungi
no, I don't think I have seen one posts of yours that has....be happy *nods* :P lol, thanks big grin

great_dane
so? the speedforce is probably the most powerfull source of energy in the dcu. it has been compared to heaven, it controls all moving matter in the universe, it was created by gods and nick named "the god wave"

and i was saying how the flash could beat eternity, becasue you were saying he couldn't. if they were to fight, eternity would win becasue the flash is living matter, so he'd have control over him. i was stating how the flash COULD beat him, and wuld beat him.

it only makes sense, eternity is the universe, the universe implodes.
that doesn't make sense to you or what?

bigbran
Originally posted by great_dane
so? the speedforce is probably the most powerfull source of energy in the dcu. it has been compared to heaven, it controls all moving matter in the universe, it was created by gods and nick named "the god wave"

and i was saying how the flash could beat eternity, becasue you were saying he couldn't. if they were to fight, eternity would win becasue the flash is living matter, so he'd have control over him. i was stating how the flash COULD beat him, and wuld beat him.

it only makes sense, eternity is the universe, the universe implodes.
that doesn't make sense to you or what? It makes about as much sense as cheeze whiz put on tacos.


And profiled.

galan7777777
Originally posted by great_dane
so? the speedforce is probably the most powerfull source of energy in the dcu. ohh yeah its right up there with the Source and the Logos laughing

Originally posted by great_dane
it has been compared to heaven, it controls all moving matter in the universe, it was created by gods and nick named "the god wave"Just because Neron said it was like Heaven dosent make it so roll eyes (sarcastic)

Originally posted by great_dane
and i was saying how the flash could beat eternity, becasue you were saying he couldn't. if they were to fight, eternity would win becasue the flash is living matter, so he'd have control over him. i was stating how the flash COULD beat him, and wuld beat him.Flash could never dream of beating Eternity, no way, no how

Originally posted by great_dane
it only makes sense, eternity is the universe, the universe implodes.
that doesn't make sense to you or what? Eternity is just the embodiment of a universe, he dosent "implode" read some Marvel comics wink

great_dane
omg. so i guess the source of all moving matter isnt a big deal. i guess the prince of hell comparing it to heaven isnt big. i guess its not called
"the god wave" for a reason. read some dc comics. embodiment or not, the universe implodes. THE UNIVERSE. is he not part of it?

just because he is higher rank, doesnt take away from the flash's abilities

manjaro
Originally posted by King_Mungi
*sigh* Northstar retained the information he read at super-speed as well. Wow, that means absoluetly nothing, you don't think Northstar can do that? So basically what you just said is nothing impressive. How often did he even use his new found intelligence in battle? rarely, so don't make it seem he is like a super genius.

blah...blah...Kid Flash never did it so don't act like he has. If that were the case than Northstar can do an IMP delivering at light speed. No, Northstar and Aurora could always go light speed it wasn't about potential. Northstar use to battle against skyfather beings with Alpha Flight, did you know that? probally not. Yeah lets make it seem Kid Flash can do all the exact same things Flash can and is just as skilled and knows how to use to his full potential roll eyes (sarcastic)

dude im totally confused as to what you're talking about. it seems we're debating about differnt things here...WTF doees speed reading have to do with thislaughing im just telling you that kid flash had a thing for yelling out his attacks like some anime character all the while explaingin the science behind it.....also i never said kid flash did an IMP, im just saying he should be able to seeing as he can travel at the speed of light...ok so enlighten me, name the sky father beings he used to take on....i said name them sir!!! these gods that Northstar summarily defeated

galan7777777
Originally posted by great_dane
omg. so i guess the source of all moving matter isnt a big deal. i guess the prince of hell comparing it to heaven isnt big. i guess its not called
"the god wave" for a reason. read some dc comics. embodiment or not, the universe implodes. THE UNIVERSE. is he not part of it?

just because he is higher rank, doesnt take away from the flash's abilities your fanboyism amazes me! you may have taken the fanboy title away from nvrhadaclue roll eyes (sarcastic) you are the only person i have ever heard say that the flash could defeat an abstract level being (its rediculous, and i wont waste anymore of my time on such a foolish argument)....... stick out tongue

bigbran
Originally posted by great_dane
omg. so i guess the source of all moving matter isnt a big deal. I really doubt this affects higher people.

Originally posted by great_dane
i guess the prince of hell comparing it to heaven isnt big.
He would have no idea, about how high Heaven is.
Christ! Are you comparing the Speed Force to the Presence?
Just because one guy compared it, does not make it even remotely true. Especially when he's comparing it to Heaven.


Originally posted by great_dane
i guess its not called
"the god wave" for a reason. I don't remember it being called this...
There is also another God Wave, I think your quite confused.

Originally posted by great_dane
read some dc comics. embodiment or not, the universe implodes. Maybe you should read some Marvel, or any company for that matter!!

Originally posted by great_dane
THE UNIVERSE. is he not part of it?
He is the universe. Based on your logic, he can beat anyone.

Originally posted by great_dane
just because he is higher rank, doesnt take away from the flash's abilities Ya, he wouldn't be able to affect him.

great_dane
ok..... fanboyism for stating a hero's powers and abilities. though admitting that he'd lose to an abstract level being.

nice

galan7777777
Originally posted by bigbran
What is Neron? A Mephisto level?
yes, Neron is basically DC's version of Mephitso

bigbran
Originally posted by great_dane
ok..... fanboyism for stating a hero's powers and abilities. though admitting that he'd lose to an abstract level being.

nice Ok, I am going to say that Champion can beat Spectre, just because he has never been written, to full potential.
And he can destroy planets with his punches.

galan7777777
Champion could probably beat lucifer too big grin roll eyes (sarcastic)

I watch Pokemon
Originally posted by bigbran

And he can destroy planets with his punches.

Gladiator can do that too, right?

bigbran
Originally posted by I watch Pokemon
Gladiator can do that too, right? 3 punches to be exact.
Oh ya, so that means he can beat Spectre too. He also isn't written to full potential, so that means, he stomps Spectre.

Plus, he has been said to be able to rip stars in half....need I continue?

great_dane
he probably would beat him. as long as he stayed in his realm. other than that, spectre could turn him into a piece of grass and mow him.

this is lame though because your comparing two from the same universe. in this universe their abilities and powers would effect each other as there written. you can easily say that champion has no chance, because of their comic status. its harder to say something from 2 diff universes, because people don't like to keep in mind and add factors that count. like eternity being the embodiment of the universe thats like to "fight back" . and the flash having the ability to destroy the universe itslf. its just putting 1 and 1 together. sure he controls all living matter
(and this is why I ADMITT HE"D WIN, BEEN SAYING THAT)
but that doesnt take away from the flash's abilties to do what he can.

bigbran
I just need to show this.
http://img180.imageshack.us/my.php?image=drstrangesorcerersupre5415he5.jpg

Now, tell me how Flash is doing jack!
The discription, alone is enough to crush Flash.
"Eternity is Time incarnate"

King KAM
Originally posted by bigbran
Ok, I am going to say that Champion can beat Spectre, just because he has never been written, to full potential.
And he can destroy planets with his punches. not without the power-gem he cant...or hasnt been shown too.

bigbran
Originally posted by King KAM
not without the power-gem he cant...or hasnt been shown too. Maybe, but that's why I used Glads too.

bigbran
Ok, some more.

This is what it takes to take down Eternity.
You even comparing Flash to the IG would be insane.
http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/6767/theinfinitygauntlet50527qk9.jpg
http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/5096/theinfinitygauntlet50528wl5.jpg
They aren't even sure of who the winner is.
http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/2484/theinfinitygauntlet50529ye8.jpg

Thanos is still sitting down. And you think that Flash is going to implode him?


http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/7161/theinfinitygauntlet50530cs9.jpg


Ok, now I'm going to bed.

Metalmanx
Originally posted by bigbran
Ok, some more.

This is what it takes to take down Eternity.
You even comparing Flash to the IG would be insane.
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They aren't even sure, of who the winner is.
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Ok, now I'm going to bed.

It's hard to picture your text.

Edit: Nevermind, you fixed it.

bigbran
Originally posted by Metalmanx
It's hard to picture your text.

Edit: Nevermind, you fixed it. Ya, I guess I can't thumbnail it.

I'de post some more, but I got to go. See ya.

juggernaut66666
Originally posted by galan7777777
yes, Neron is basically DC's version of Mephitso
Nah Neron is above Mephisto
Anyway Bart for the win he can tap into THE SPEED FORCE so he can also kill anyone

bigbran
Originally posted by juggernaut66666
Nah Neron is above Mephisto
Anyway Bart for the win he can tap into THE SPEED FORCE so he can also kill anyone Still, he's around that level.

King_Mungi
Originally posted by manjaro
dude im totally confused as to what you're talking about. it seems we're debating about differnt things here...WTF doees speed reading have to do with thislaughing im just telling you that kid flash had a thing for yelling out his attacks like some anime character all the while explaingin the science behind it.....also i never said kid flash did an IMP, im just saying he should be able to seeing as he can travel at the speed of light...ok so enlighten me, name the sky father beings he used to take on....i said name them sir!!! these gods that Northstar summarily defeated

What? your the one who mentioned the speed reading first basically saying it to be the be all be all ability

You never said he did one, but you assumed he could which he has never showed anything on that level. That's like me saying Northstar could do an IMP, which like Kid Flash has never shown anything on that level. Your basically stating Kid Flash is just as skilled and just as strong as Flash, which is wrong.

He's battled against, The Great Beasts, Chernoboyl, Llan

Metalmanx
Question, KM. What exactly can Northstar do to defeat Kid Flash?

King_Mungi
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Question, KM. What exactly can Northstar do to defeat Kid Flash?

Basically the exact same thing Kid Flash could do to defeat Northstar.

Metalmanx
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Basically the exact same thing Kid Flash could do to defeat Northstar.

Err...okay then. I still give Kid Flash the majority. He's just arguably faster. And most likely better skilled.

King_Mungi
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Err...okay then. I still give Kid Flash the majority. He's just arguably faster. And most likely better skilled.

That's fine, I agreed Kid Flash would win majrity my main arguement people were using Flash feats with Kid Flash yet he never showed any where that skill.

Big Sexy
Originally posted by juggernaut66666
Nah Neron is above Mephisto
Anyway Bart for the win he can tap into THE SPEED FORCE so he can also kill anyone I would say there pretty close but Neron is the better manipulator. Mephistos plans seem to come out way to early.

Roldz
Originally posted by Big Sexy
I would say there pretty close but Neron is the better manipulator. Mephistos plans seem to come out way to early.
both should be pretty equal in there own realm, Mephisto is as devious as Neron as well.. Is all..

H. S. 6
Truthfully, I could see this going either way, with maybe the slight nod to Kid Flash.

juggernaut66666
Originally posted by Big Sexy
I would say there pretty close but Neron is the better manipulator. Mephistos plans seem to come out way to early.
Neron killed a darkseid avatar in seconds while he was on apokolips
I would like to see Mephisto do that while he is out of his realm

Roldz
Originally posted by juggernaut66666
Neron killed a darkseid avatar in seconds while he was on apokolips
I would like to see Mephisto do that while he is out of his realm
He cant because Darkseid is in DC, How about nearly taking over Wildstorm Universe while outside of his realm..

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