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Ok spider-man one on one aganist Mr. Fantastic with no prep time on neutral ground who wins?

probably reed

there's pretty much nothing peter could do to reed

How do you figure there is nothing peter could do to reed?
Without his gadgets and no time to prepare reed only has his strechablity and his on the spot thinking and this is a guy that rethinks every smallest detail like 20 times.
Peter on the other hand is always on his feet thinkin without huge equipment or help from every corner of the world. And don't forget in Ages of Apocklips this is the guy who replaces reed as leeder of the Fantistic 4

I think if Reed would be on the move it might be a hell of a fight.
If not Pete's gonna give him a badass beatdown

Originally posted by Entity
How do you figure there is nothing peter could do to reed?

Because there isn't.


Originally posted by Entity
Without his gadgets and no time to prepare reed only has his strechablity

Whcih makes him practically indestructable vs the likes of Spiderman



Originally posted by Entity
and his on the spot thinking and this is a guy that rethinks every smallest detail like 20 times.

If Reed rethinks anything even just twice, Peter is dead.


Originally posted by Entity
Peter on the other hand is always on his feet thinkin without huge equipment or help from every corner of the world. And don't forget in Ages of Apocklips this is the guy who replaces reed as leeder of the Fantistic 4

Reed wraps himself around every inch of Peter's body, and suffocates him.

Originally posted by Entity
I think if Reed would be on the move it might be a hell of a fight.
If not Pete's gonna give him a badass beatdown

then you probably arent too fimiliar with reed (i dont mean that as an insult)

.....

Spider man can't hurt reed.

In the least.

Ever.

Originally posted by Soljer
.....

Spider man can't hurt reed.

In the least.

Ever.

This is Reed's fight to win. It takes a punch from the likes of Namor just to put him down for a minute.

But he couldnt get that close you forget that pete senses danger before it happens. Hell half the time his body reacts before he knows whats happening.
And his reflexes are alot faster anyway, without his sense like when fighting venom

Originally posted by Accel
This is Reed's fight to win. It takes a punch from the likes of Namor just to put him down for a minute.

i was going to bring that up actually, Reed has gone up against namor and done very nicely

Not sure how Peter could hurt him.... he might be able to incapacitate him with enough webbing though

Originally posted by Entity
But he couldnt get that close you forget that pete senses danger before it happens. Hell half the time his body reacts before he knows whats happening.
And his reflexes are alot faster anyway, without his sense like when fighting venom



his spider senses arent going to matter much when reeds body is too wide for parker to evade

Originally posted by ExtraMision5555
his spider senses arent going to matter much when reeds body is too wide for parker to evade

I was just going to say something to this effect.

Reed can envelope a city block with his body.

peter cant hurt reed physiclly and his webbing would be unable to hold him not to mention reed is probably the only person more agile than pete

Is namor really that much stronger that spider-man?

Yes. Yes he is.

Originally posted by Entity
Is namor really that much stronger that spider-man?

Class 15 compared to class 100?

Originally posted by lando005
his webbing would be unable to hold him

It has held him before... but that was a while ago

Spider stingers, ala morlun, gg reed/

Wolverine couldnt stab Reed

What makes you think Spidey's stupid little stingers are going to do anything

Because they are sorta magical?

shrug

still wont work

Prove it .......

Originally posted by Entity
Is namor really that much stronger that spider-man? No, maybe a ton.

Peter could probably ko Reed, in 2 punches.
The other guys are just joking, so you can play along with them if you want, but I wanted to tell you the truth.

What if Peter had his Spider Armor from Tony

Originally posted by Entity
What if Peter had his Spider Armor from Tony Then he absolutely murders Reed.

Originally posted by bigbran
Then he absolutely murders Reed.


Don't mislead the poor newcomer. He might think you're serious. That isn't nice.

He listens to you now about Spidey and Reed? Next thing you know, he's gonna be under the impression that Superman can take Galactus, Wonder Woman is stronger than the Silver Surfer, and DC is somehow an inherently better company....

Originally posted by Soljer
Don't mislead the poor newcomer. He might think you're serious. That isn't nice.

He listens to you now about Spidey and Reed? Next thing you know, he's gonna be under the impression that Superman can take Galactus, Wonder Woman is stronger than the Silver Surfer, and DC is somehow an inherently better company....

Don't be a anti-dc fanboy

By the way WonderWoman with the Godwave would obliterate SS, as she would most anyone.

Superman defeating Galactus? That depends on which version of Superman, if were using post crisis current, then he could do it, ala T-vo which took down Dom the multiversal power.

Oh belive me no offence to anyone but nothing will ever convince me that DC is better than Marvel.
I just think people underestmate pete's intelligence. If he'd had the time and finachel support Reed had growing up. He would rival reed alot more that people belive. Peter has done "amazing" things espically concidering that he had sacraficed his youth and education
(I SAID RIVAL NOT SURPASE)

Uh-oh, looks like another Superman vs Galactus thread is underfoot...

Originally posted by Jesse7
Don't be a anti-dc fanboy

By the way WonderWoman with the Godwave would obliterate SS, as she would most anyone.

Superman defeating Galactus? That depends on which version of Superman, if were using post crisis current, then he could do it, ala T-vo which took down Dom the multiversal power.

I'm not being anti-DC. I'm being anti-moron. Totally different.

Originally posted by Soljer
I'm not being anti-DC. I'm being anti-moron. Totally different.

How ironic your statement is.

That is unless of course I am misinterpreting it.

Originally posted by Jesse7
Don't be a anti-dc fanboy

By the way WonderWoman with the Godwave would obliterate SS, as she would most anyone.

Superman defeating Galactus? That depends on which version of Superman, if were using post crisis current, then he could do it, ala T-vo which took down Dom the multiversal power.

Originally posted by Jesse7
How ironic your statement is.

That is unless of course I am misinterpreting it.

You may very well be.

Originally posted by Jesse7
By the way WonderWoman with the Godwave would obliterate SS, as she would most anyone.

Yeah, if he was asleep or something so he couldn't blast her before she could use it.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Yeah, if he was asleep or something so he couldn't blast her before she could use it.

Crosses bracelets, she has all the time she needs.

Originally posted by Jesse7
Crosses bracelets, she has all the time she needs. If that's the case, then she should win every battle.

Originally posted by Jesse7
Crosses bracelets, she has all the time she needs.
So she should beat Superboy Prime then huh?

Originally posted by darthgoober
So she should beat Superboy Prime then huh? Blastphemie!!!!
He/she/it means, that she can beat Marvel characters, not DC ones!! (excluding Wolverine)

Originally posted by Soljer
Class 15 compared to class 100?



Spidey is more accurately around class 20+ now. That "+" is because he's been shown to lift far heavier on several occassions.

Originally posted by Jesse7
Don't be a anti-dc fanboy

By the way WonderWoman with the Godwave would obliterate SS, as she would most anyone.

Superman defeating Galactus? That depends on which version of Superman, if were using post crisis current, then he could do it, ala T-vo which took down Dom the multiversal power.

uh oh....

Originally posted by Entity
Oh belive me no offence to anyone but nothing will ever convince me that DC is better than Marvel.
I just think people underestmate pete's intelligence. If he'd had the time and finachel support Reed had growing up. He would rival reed alot more that people belive. Peter has done "amazing" things espically concidering that he had sacraficed his youth and education
(I SAID RIVAL NOT SURPASE)
let's ignore the dc fanboys for a moment they have no place in a pure marvel matchup right now.... i just wanted to say i agree with you on pete's intell level peter by far has the most potential when it comes on to science that's been noted by reed tony and a few others if he would have never become spider-man he could have easily rivaled reed in an egghead contest

Anyway.... Reed 10/10.

Done.

Originally posted by Jesse7
Crosses bracelets, she has all the time she needs.

Off topic...but if she crosses her bracelets couldn't someone who's stronger just uncross them by physically pulling her hands apart?

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Off topic...but if she crosses her bracelets couldn't someone who's stronger just uncross them by physically pulling her hands apart?

funny
because thats a good question

off topic and has nothing to do with this fight

spite? or stupidity? anyhow....



Reed 10/10..do to...well everything

Originally posted by lando005
let's ignore the dc fanboys for a moment they have no place in a pure marvel matchup right now.... i just wanted to say i agree with you on pete's intell level peter by far has the most potential when it comes on to science that's been noted by reed tony and a few others if he would have never become spider-man he could have easily rivaled reed in an egghead contest

Henry Pym... super-genius:

http://img506.imageshack.us/img506/1867/mkspiderman015008xj6.th.jpg

Originally posted by Scoobless
Henry Pym... super-genius:

http://img506.imageshack.us/img506/1867/mkspiderman015008xj6.th.jpg



and how far is pym on the superbrains poll....well done scoobs

I don't know who would win but i am convinced no one is giving Peter enough credit

Originally posted by Entity
I don't know who would win but i am convinced no one is giving Peter enough credit

We give Spider-Man all the credit we can, but in a straight-up fight, he stands no chance against Reed. As others have said, there's no possible way that he could hurt him short of PIS/CIS. Reed, on the other hand, has plenty of options at his disposal, as already stated by others. Spidey gives it his best (that's me giving him some credit), but Reed eventually takes him down.

And yes, Spidey's smart as hell, and has the "potential" to be one of Marvel's greatest minds, but Reed does things like making pocket universes in his leisure time.

Originally posted by Tron
And yes, Spidey's smart as hell, and has the "potential" to be one of Marvel's greatest minds, but Reed does things like making pocket universes in his leisure time.

Even though this is true, and I know it is, it made me laugh when I read it.

It's funny that Ult Reed is supposed to have this nearly cosmic mind now, but Reed has displayed intelligence on a seemingly cosmic scale since way back in the day.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Even though this is true, and I know it is, it made me laugh when I read it.

It's funny that Ult Reed is supposed to have this nearly cosmic mind now, but Reed has displayed intelligence on a seemingly cosmic scale since way back in the day.

It's says a lot when someone like Galactus respects your intelligence.

Parker 10/10

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