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Alright, choose a team from Marvel only, that could beat My Team from DC (Your team can't have ANY abstracts) it can only have up to, or less than, 7 characters..... Fight takes place in a neutral universe where every characters power can function to the best, no PIS/CIS... Bloodlust is on..

My DC Team:

Darkseid /w/ Full control of the ALE
Anti Monitor (at his best)
Parallax (in Hal)
Emperor Joker
Mr. Mxyzptlk
Classic Ion
Krona

NOTE: No "pre-retcon" characters can be used

Begin...

Thanos w/ Hotu
Unilord Silver Surfer w/ enigma force and quantum band
Hyperstorm
Katylis
Reed w/ ultimate nullifier
Celestial race
Watcher race
Warlock w/ IG
Dr. Strange
Extant
Scarlet Witch full controlled
Molecule man
Abraxas
The heralds
Insane Genis (Photon)
Superman Prime with all weapons and aritifacts
Guardian Race w/ full back up of GL corps
Dr. Faith
Highfather
full potential Orion
Etrigan
Light Ray
The new gods
Captain Atom
Imperex
Sigma
Void
Solar Man
Phoenix

I think this guys should win....

Mr. Mxyzptlk and Parallax (Hal) in the same team?

HAHAHA!!!! This one should be good! Whoever the Marvel team brings out they better include the Living Tribunal. lol

Fullpower galactus
Thanos W/IG
Tyrant
Godlike Cable
Wolverine
Full power Morg
Onslaught
SS
Living Tribunal
Dark phoenix

Originally posted by Roldz
Thanos w/ Hotu
Unilord Silver Surfer w/ enigma force and quantum band
Hyperstorm
Katylis
Reed w/ ultimate nullifier
Celestial race
Watcher race
Warlock w/ IG
Dr. Strange
Extant
Scarlet Witch full controlled
Molecule man
Abraxas
The heralds
Insane Genis (Photon)
Superman Prime with all weapons and aritifacts
Guardian Race w/ full back up of GL corps
Dr. Faith
Highfather
full potential Orion
Etrigan
Light Ray
The new gods
Captain Atom
Imperex
Sigma
Void
Solar Man
Phoenix

I think this guys should win.... Remember only a maximum of 7 characters can be used, they all must be from marvel, and no abstracts are allowed

Hey you changed it... it took me a freakin while to think all that..lol ..
ill rethink it again.. give me about 2 hours..lol

Originally posted by Roldz
Hey you changed it... it took me a freakin while to think all that..lol lol

Thanos w/ Hotu
Reed w/ ultimate nullifier
Warlock w/ IG
Scarlet Witch full controlled
Solar Man (not marvel but he says hed gladly help)
Abraxas
Unilord SS w/ quantum band and enigma force..

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
Mr. Mxyzptlk and Parallax (Hal) in the same team?

HAHAHA!!!! This one should be good! Whoever the Marvel team brings out they better include the Living Tribunal. lol yep and remember that emp. Joker had 99% of Mxy's power as well

Originally posted by Roldz
Thanos w/ Hotu
Reed w/ ultimate nullifier
Warlock w/ IG
Scarlet Witch full controlled
Molecule man
Abraxas
Unilord SS w/ quantum band and enigma force.. IMO the only one here who really has a chance is Thanos /w/ THOTU

How about Thanos Attacks with Hotu while the rest Abraxas/SS/Solarman/Warlock attacks and protects and buys enough time for both Reed and Scarlet witch to do there Chaos wave coupled with the Ultimate nullifier omniversal destruction attack... that should takes care of it..

Originally posted by Roldz
How about Thanos Attacks with Hotu while the rest Abraxas/SS/Solarman/Warlock attacks and protects and buys enough time for both Reed and Scarlet witch to do there Chaos wave coupled with the Ultimate nullifier omniversal destruction attack... that should takes care of it.. Most of the DC teams characters exist outside of normal existance

Wheres outside of the Omniverse? Isnt Omniverse the whole, meaning without it there is nothing.. Really not too familiar with abstract level things..

Wolverine. He can heal from any injury the DC team can inflict on him and his claws can cut throught anything, ANYTHING!!!!

Originally posted by masterbruce
Wolverine. He can heal from any injury the DC team can inflict on him and his claws can cut throught anything, ANYTHING!!!! I hope to god that you are joking...

.00000000000001% of anyone on my teams power >1pimpslap< Wolvie (at his "best"

LT and Thanos HOTU could do it by themselves.

Originally posted by Darth_Erebus
LT and Thanos HOTU could do it by themselves. LT=abstract and thus is not allowed

Originally posted by masterbruce
Wolverine. He can heal from any injury the DC team can inflict on him and his claws can cut throught anything, ANYTHING!!!!

good thanks for agreeing with me.

wait, can wolverine be considered an abstract?

Originally posted by masterbruce
wait, can wolverine be considered an abstract? It depends what Wolvie "fan" you ask

Squirrel Girl does it by herself.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Squirrel Girl does it by herself. LOL, what about Karate Kid?

Originally posted by Galan777
LOL, what about Karate Kid?
Now THAT would be a Hell of a tagteam. Imagine this...

Squirrel Girl & Karate Kid vs TOAA & Presence.

Originally posted by Darth_Erebus
LT and Thanos HOTU could do it by themselves.

Thanos with the Heart could do it solo. He had the power of 'TOAA.'

I don't care how many galaxies you can destroy, or realities you can rewrite. You aren't tackling the guy that absorbed the Living friggin tribunal.

Darkseid /w/ Full control of the ALE
Anti Monitor (at his best)
Parallax (in Hal)
Emperor Joker
Mr. Mxyzptlk
Classic Ion
Krona



1. For the ALE, I have Roma with the Celestial Nullifier (Erases Universes)

The FULL Power of the ALE CAN'T survive Outside it's own Realm
http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/5678/ale3zr7.th.jpg

Darkseid would have to operate from the ALE Universe

So if you cut off the neighboring Universe, you win.

"The threat of the ALE is forever ended"....."how"
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/2096/ale15tr7.th.jpg
the bridging Dimension between our Reality and it's has been eradicated"



2. For the Anti-Monitor, I have HOM Genis-Vell

Darthgoober conclusively proved that AM (after absorbing all those universes) was still 5 Universes shy of equalling Eternity.
And HOM Genis-Vell was able to Blink the Universe In and Out of existence.



3. For Parallax, I have Captain Britain with the Sword of Might (Excalibur) and the Amulet of Right

Together, the Amulet and the Sword can Re-write the Marvel Omni-verse.
http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/7714/r23op3.th.jpg

http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/6563/ex1gj1.th.jpg



4. For Emperor Joker, I have Galactus with Ultimate Nullifier

Non-Canon Mxy was able to erase ONE Multi-verse.
Joker had 99% of that power

UN >>>>> Multi-verse



5. For Mr Mxy, I have Warlock with the Infinity Gauntlet

Nothing short of Spectre is stopping the IG



6. For Classic Ion, I have Thanos with the Heart of the Infinite



7. For Krona, I have the Living Tribunal (Not an Abstract)

Originally posted by Galan777
It depends what Wolvie "fan" you ask

Oh admit it Galan your are the biggest Wolverine lover fanboy ever.

Originally posted by Mr Master
7. For Krona, I have the Living Tribunal (Not an Abstract) Not an Abstract?

Originally posted by endrict
Oh admit it Galan your are the biggest Wolverine lover fanboy ever. Shoot! you caught me....

Originally posted by Mr Master
UN >>>>> Multi-verse Just curious how?

The UN just erased/remade the Multiverse, so how is it that much greater?

Originally posted by darthgoober
Now THAT would be a Hell of a tagteam. Imagine this...

Squirrel Girl & Karate Kid vs TOAA & Presence. That my friend is what we call an unbeatable PIS team

Originally posted by Galan777
That my friend is what we call an unbeatable PIS team
No if it's in DC add Superman if it's in Marvel add Wolverine

Originally posted by Galan777
Just curious how? the UN just erased/remade the Multiverse, so how is it that much greater?

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You anwered it for me

If it can obliterate and then re-create a New Multi-verse,

The Multi-verse is the UN's b*tch.

Originally posted by Broly92
No if it's in DC add Superman if it's in Marvel add Wolverine isnt it awful that this is true?

Originally posted by Mr Master
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You anwered it for me

If it can obliterate and then re-create a New Multi-verse,

The Multi-verse is the UN's b*tch. Well i guess what i meant was since it just remade the multiverse then how exactly would it affect emp. joker whom had 99% of mxy's power? Do you really think it took Mxy using 99% of all his power to destroy/remake the multiverse? He did it easily....

Im not positive that the UN would be enough to destroy emp. joker, especially since the best feat with the UN was from Reed lol!

Originally posted by Galan777
isnt it awful that this is true?
Indeed

Originally posted by Galan777
Well i guess what i meant was since it just remade the multiverse then how exactly would it affect emp. joker whom had 99% of mxy's power?

Did Joker even come close to destroying or even remaking the Multi-verse?

So then the UN is beyond Joker in feats, and that's the way we judge hypothetical battles.


Originally posted by Galan777
Do you really think it took Mxy using 99% of all his power to destroy/remake the multiverse? He did it easily....

Whether it was easy or not is inconsequential, that's Non-Canon Mxy's Greatest Feat, so that's what we take into consideration.


Originally posted by Galan777
Im not positive that the UN would be enough to destroy emp. joker,

When emp. Joker Destroys or Remakes the Multi-verse, let me know.

For now, UN obliterates Joker into nothingness.


Originally posted by Galan777
especially since the best feat with the UN was from Reed lol!

The "lol" part of that is imagine the UN in the hands of Galactus, if it was so effective in Reed's possession.

I gave the UN to Galactus in this confrontation.

Originally posted by Roldz
Thanos w/ Hotu
Unilord Silver Surfer w/ enigma force and quantum band
Hyperstorm
Katylis
Reed w/ ultimate nullifier
Celestial race
Watcher race
Warlock w/ IG
Dr. Strange
Extant
Scarlet Witch full controlled
Molecule man
Abraxas
The heralds
Insane Genis (Photon)
Superman Prime with all weapons and aritifacts
Guardian Race w/ full back up of GL corps
Dr. Faith
Highfather
full potential Orion
Etrigan
Light Ray
The new gods
Captain Atom
Imperex
Sigma
Void
Solar Man
Phoenix

I think this guys should win.... Just a touch of overkill dont you think

Thanos with the HOTU
Warlock with the IG.
Reed with the Nullifier
Full power Photon
Scarlet Witch chaos wave
Evil Molecule man


That'll do it.

Originally posted by Big Sexy
Thanos with the HOTU
Warlock with the IG.
Reed with the Nullifier
Full power Photon
Scarlet Witch chaos wave
Evil Molecule man


That'll do it.

That would work just as effectively.

Xorr the God Jewel- http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/xorrtgj.htm

Overlord- http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/overlrds.htm

Chthon- http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix2/chthonother.htm

Archenemy- http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix3/archenemymagik.htm

Demogorge- http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/atum.htm

Asteroth- http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix3/asterothbrb.htm

Llan the Sorcerer- http://www.rapsheet.co.uk/RapSheetMain/Character.asp?UniqueId=625 & http://alphanex.alphaflight.net/index.php/Llan

thanos/IG/HOTU/the Nullifier yeah he takes this on his own. oh throw in squirrel girls pis/jobbing arua yup he can't lose now

Originally posted by Mr Master
Greatest Feat, so that's what we take into consideration.

I gave the UN to Galactus in this confrontation. Just curious..... What was Big G's greatest feat with the UN?

Sure we can imagine that in his hands it could do more then when Reed used it, but like you just said, all we can take into consideration is on pannel feats, and "on pannel" Galactus has done nothing impressive with the UN.

You saying that Galactus could do more then Reed with the UN is just as accurate as me saying that Emp. Joker could destroy the Multiverse with 99% of Mxy's power......

bump

Originally posted by golem370
Xorr the God Jewel- http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/xorrtgj.htm

Overlord- http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/overlrds.htm

Chthon- http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix2/chthonother.htm

Archenemy- http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix3/archenemymagik.htm

Demogorge- http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/atum.htm

Asteroth- http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix3/asterothbrb.htm

Llan the Sorcerer- http://www.rapsheet.co.uk/RapSheetMain/Character.asp?UniqueId=625 & http://alphanex.alphaflight.net/index.php/Llan ??

There are a lot of beings who could do this by themselves:
Pre-retcon Beyonder, Thanos w/ Heart, Pre-retcon Molecule man ect.

Originally posted by Galan777
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What?

Originally posted by Galan777
Just curious..... What was Big G's greatest feat with the UN?




Originally posted by Galan777
Sure we can imagine that in his hands it could do more then when Reed used it, but like you just said, all we can take into consideration is on pannel feats, and "on pannel" Galactus has done nothing impressive with the UN.

Well I don't have to imagine it, I KNOW the UN would be more effective in Galactus's hands.

Galactus hasn't done anything impressive, because he's never used it.


Originally posted by Galan777
You saying that Galactus could do more then Reed with the UN is just as accurate as me saying that Emp. Joker could destroy the Multiverse with 99% of Mxy's power......

Only that Joker was only able to mess with ONE Universe, while a Multi-verse is countless Universes.

So it's more probable that the UN would be more effective in Galactus's hands especially considering it's an Aspect of his, versus Joker taking down a Multi-verse when he merely took over ONE Universe.

Originally posted by Mr Master





Well I don't have to imagine it, I KNOW the UN would be more effective in Galactus's hands.

Galactus hasn't done anything impressive, because he's never used it.




Only that Joker was only able to mess with ONE Universe, while a Multi-verse is countless Universes.

So it's more probable that the UN would be more effective in Galactus's hands especially considering it's an Aspect of his, versus Joker taking down a Multi-verse when he merely took over ONE Universe. I agree with all this Mr. M, I just had to throw that out there

but though Emp. Joker did only take over 1 universe we can assume, that with 99% of Mxy's power he could have taken over significantly more. Of course this is just my oppinion, just as Big G using the UN is your oppinion

but like I said, I really do agree with what was said...

Just thought I'd point this out, Galactus HAS in fact used the UN before. Granted, he's never really used it SUCCESSFULLY on panel, but he HAS fired it on panel before. Check it out...

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/5035/fantasticfourannual2407zj1.th.jpg

Now this is just after Korvac absorbed all the Data from Galactus's ship. Now what I find interesting about this instance, is the precise level of control Big G demonstrates over the UN blast. He fires it INSIDE his ship, and it zig zags out to find a single individual target(similar to the OE). Not only that, Big G is completely unafraid of releasing the blast(unlike everyone else who is terrified of being destroyed).

Now, not only did Big G use it in this particular instance, apparently he's done it several times in the past. Check it out...

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/5035/fantasticfourannual2407zj1.th.jpg

See, these guys are the officials of the "Time Variance Authority". Now they actually comment on how he's done it before(they never say exactly how many times, but the way they're talking, it would seem to be more than a few.

Now the reason there's no record of him using the UN, is because when he does, the UN erases any trace of the beings existence. In other words, they were NEVER around. It actually alters time, so that events involving the victim, unfold the way they would have if the victim hadn't been present. So other than Big G himself(and the other cosmic types I'm assuming) and the beings at the TVA, NO ONE knows of any instance of his using the Nullifier, because it's victims never existed in the first place.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Just thought I'd point this out, Galactus HAS in fact used the UN before. Granted, he's never really used it SUCCESSFULLY on panel, but he HAS fired it on panel before. Check it out...

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/5035/fantasticfourannual2407zj1.th.jpg

Now this is just after Korvac absorbed all the Data from Galactus's ship. Now what I find interesting about this instance, is the precise level of control Big G demonstrates over the UN blast. He fires it INSIDE his ship, and it zig zags out to find a single individual target(similar to the OE). Not only that, Big G is completely unafraid of releasing the blast(unlike everyone else who is terrified of being destroyed).

Now, not only did Big G use it in this particular instance, apparently he's done it several times in the past. Check it out...

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/5035/fantasticfourannual2407zj1.th.jpg

See, these guys are the officials of the "Time Variance Authority". Now they actually comment on how he's done it before(they never say exactly how many times, but the way they're talking, it would seem to be more than a few.

Now the reason there's no record of him using the UN, is because when he does, the UN erases any trace of the beings existence. In other words, they were NEVER around. It actually alters time, so that events involving the victim, unfold the way they would have if the victim hadn't been present. So other than Big G himself(and the other cosmic types I'm assuming) and the beings at the TVA, NO ONE knows of any instance of his using the Nullifier, because it's victims never existed in the first place.

This message was brought to you by the creators of Back to the Future.:P

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Yes he has used the UN, but I was saying that the UN's greatest feat still came at the hands of Reed Richards destroying/recreating the Multiverse.

To date it is only speculation saying that the UN could do more in Big G's hands, just as it is speculation in me saying that with 99% of Myx's power Emperor Joker should be able to wipe out the Multiverse.....

Neither Galactus /w/ the UN, nor Emperor Joker have destroyed the Multiverse (or anything close to it), but we can assume that it would be possible to do so given the powers that they would possess.

Sorry, this was SUPPOSED to be the second pic...

http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/8863/fantasticfourannual2408hj8.th.jpg

Originally posted by Galan777
Yes he has used the UN, but I was saying that the UN's greatest feat still came at the hands of Reed Richards destroying/recreating the Multiverse.

To date it is only speculation saying that the UN could do more in Big G's hands, just as it is speculation in me saying that with 99% of Myx's power Emperor Joker should be able to wipe out the Multiverse.....

Neither Galactus /w/ the UN, nor Emperor Joker have destroyed the Multiverse (or anything close to it), but we can assume that it would be possible to do so given the powers that they would possess.
Oh, I accnowledge that Reed has greatest on panel feat with the UN, I was just pointing out that he HAS used it in the past. But from the control he demonstrated, it's fairly safe to assume that he could do just as well(and probably better) as Reed did.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Oh, I accnowledge that Reed has greatest on panel feat with the UN, I was just pointing out that he HAS used it in the past. But from the control he demonstrated, it's fairly safe to assume that he could do just as well(and probably better) as Reed did. I completely argree with that.....

but by on pannel evidence we can only say that the UN can destroy/recreate the Multiverse......

It is only oppinion (but more then likely a fact) that Big G could do much more then Reed with the UN.... Just as it is my oppinion that Emp. Joker should have been able to destroy the Multiverse with the ammount of power he had

Both scenerios are likely, but have never been proven...

Originally posted by Galan777
I completely argree with that.....

but by on pannel evidence we can only say that the UN can destroy/recreate the Multiverse......

It is only oppinion (but more then likely a fact) that Big G could do much more then Reed with the UN.... Just as it is my oppinion that Emp. Joker should have been able to destroy the Multiverse with the ammount of power he had

Both scenerios are likely, but have never been proven...

Oh, well I don't know about whether or not Galactus could do more in the way of overall power/effect than Reed, I just meant he could do more in the way of accuracy. Human's generally have a hard time focusing enough on the target to single out an individual. But because of Galactus's cosmic senses, he can apparently use it effortlessly. For all we know, the multiverse IS the limit of the UN's power, I don't know if that would change even if Big G himself was the one pulling the trigger.

And I don't really know much about Emperor Joker OR Mxy, so I wasn't really trying to enter the debate, just pointing out an over site.

Originally posted by Galan777
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What lol

Thanos with THOTU is all we need. the others are non-factors.

Originally posted by golem370
What lol Not too sure if those characters could do it

Originally posted by darthgoober
Oh, well I don't know about whether or not Galactus could do more in the way of overall power/effect than Reed, I just meant he could do more in the way of accuracy. Human's generally have a hard time focusing enough on the target to single out an individual. But because of Galactus's cosmic senses, he can apparently use it effortlessly. For all we know, the multiverse IS the limit of the UN's power, I don't know if that would change even if Big G himself was the one pulling the trigger.

And I don't really know much about Emperor Joker OR Mxy, so I wasn't really trying to enter the debate, just pointing out an over site. Its cool, I agree with ya

hey galan777, do you change your sig like every 3 days?

lol, this one will be here for quite a while