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Alright, this isn't a bash thread, this isn't a joke thread, this isn't a thread to attract Wolverine haters to make pitiful jokes about a fictional character they happen to dislike.

Rather, I am curious; if we take Wolverines highest showings, and ONLY his highest showings, what is the WEAKEST character that could beat him?

This Wolverine can toss well over half a ton single handedly. He can survive a nuke, and a blast by Nitro that took him to the skeleton. He can keep up with Spiderman in speed. He can stab Thanos (even while he holds the fugging infinity gauntlet!). Etc. etc.

Only his greatest showings.

The competition is restricted in that they cannot simply turn off his mutant power, or combat it in anyway. No anti-healing factor corrosives, and no turning off of the X gene permitted. Anyone who can fly is restricted to fifty feet for the match (Wolverine can jump about fifty feet, right? ).

All of this said...what is the weakest character you can think of that can STILL outdo Wolverine?

Seriously? if we were to raise Wolverine to a highest-level feat powerset, then he is literally a hearold, and possibly a low skyfather

therefore, no "weak" mutant would kill him

Karate Kid.

Originally posted by ExtraMision5555
Seriously? if we were to raise Wolverine to a highest-level feat powerset, then he is literally a hearold, and possibly a low skyfather

therefore, no "weak" mutant would kill him



See, this is what I meant when I said "this thread is not meant for haters to come in and make pitiful jokes," surviving a nuke is HARDLY a herald level feat.

Originally posted by Ultraman Baltan
Karate Kid.

Quite possibly! I'm not sure how he'd keep Wolverine down, but perhaps he could endow his strikes with unhealable-chi, or something. Never know with Karate Kid!

Originally posted by Soljer


See, this is what I meant when I said "this thread is not meant for haters to come in and make pitiful jokes," surviving a nuke is HARDLY a herald level feat.


who said i was a hater? im not
it wasnt a joke either

but i stick to what i said

<3

Originally posted by Soljer


See, this is what I meant when I said "this thread is not meant for haters to come in and make pitiful jokes," surviving a nuke is HARDLY a herald level feat. No seriously. It's true.

Plus his highest showing was when he became like an Eternity level..... with CLAWS!!

Originally posted by bigbran
No seriously. It's true.

Plus his highest showing was when he became like an Eternity level..... with CLAWS!!

No, no, no. This isn't Eternity Wolverine. It's just normal Wolverine, but with only his best showings taken into account. Upgrades (however temporary) do not count.

Human Torch?

Originally posted by Scoobless
Human Torch?



Perhaps...

Wolverine survived having all his flesh burned from his body, though. I could see Plotverine leaping into the air and impaling Johnny.

. And the fact that I could see that happening is very sad indeed.

That scene with Nuke is actually going to be explained soon in his series, he mostly like took the same drug that amplified Nuke's power.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
That scene with Nuke is actually going to be explained soon in his series, he mostly like took the same drug that amplified Nuke's power.

MGH. We assume. I realize it's going to (hopefully) be explained away.

Doesn't matter. For now, it's still cannon, and there is no other explanation besides Wolverines plot powers.

Sandman could still take him at those levels

squrrel girl

Originally posted by Scoobless
Sandman could still take him at those levels

Definitely.

Darwin...

I'd say Serafina as well...but knowing Wolverine he'll probably manage to dodge her tech...

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/5773/xmen191018gg1.th.jpg
http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/8615/xmen191019we0.th.jpg

We're supposed to be finding the weakest character possible. Darwin is potentially one of the strongest characters Marvel has ever produced. He, for obvious reasons, shouldn't be mentioned.

Originally posted by Soljer
We're supposed to be finding the weakest character possible. Darwin is potentially one of the strongest characters Marvel has ever produced. He, for obvious reasons, shouldn't be mentioned.

Yeah I figured that much...but I felt the need to mention is name...what about Telepaths...or Wallflower....? Elixir...if he can get close enough...without getting killed...

Oh Prodigy...repowered....he could do it...

BTW Do KO's count as wins? Dust possibly?

What about Layla Miller (Deus Ex Machina) shifty

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Yeah I figured that much...but I felt the need to mention is name...what about Telepaths...or Wallflower....? Elixir...if he can get close enough...without getting killed...

Oh Prodigy...repowered....he could do it...

BTW Do KO's count as wins? Dust possibly?

What about Layla Miller (Deus Ex Machina) shifty

Wolverine has shown resistance to even Xavier level telepathy before, at high showings. Thus, telepathy is pretty useless.

Also, KO's would count, but Wolverine at his best is pretty much incapable of getting knocked out, .

Originally posted by Soljer
Wolverine has shown resistance to even Xavier level telepathy before, at high showings. Thus, telepathy is pretty useless.

Also, KO's would count, but Wolverine at his best is pretty much incapable of getting knocked out, .

You mean the Cassandra Nova one where he switched off his mind and went into feral range....do we assume that ALL telepathy doesn't work on him? Because he only resisted one particular type of attack...IIRC Mind Control...which he was pretty good at anyway....

But in the Case of Dust he can't really physically hurt her...
Prodigy(Mental Blockless) apparently can "potentially" beat Wolverine in H2H....
Wallflowers phermones could probably be resisted...
Elixir won't get close enough...

But Layla:

Layla currently possesses the ability to see paths of causality to their ultimate conclusion, which allows her to alter events to prevent or cause certain occurrences; this gives her a sense of apparent omniscience.

So as Capt America says...she'll find a way....because her power shows her the way to victory...

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
You mean the Cassandra Nova one where he switched off his mind and went into feral range....do we assume that ALL telepathy doesn't work on him? Because he only resisted one particular type of attack...IIRC Mind Control...which he was pretty good at anyway....

But in the Case of Dust he can't really physically hurt her...
Prodigy(Mental Blockless) apparently can "potentially" beat Wolverine in H2H....
Wallflowers phermones could probably be resisted...
Elixir won't get close enough...

But Layla:

Layla currently possesses the ability to see paths of causality to their ultimate conclusion, which allows her to alter events to prevent or cause certain occurrences; this gives her a sense of apparent omniscience.

So as Capt America says...she'll find a way....because her power shows her the way to victory...

I agree, but there's a problem.

You keep naming people that either A) Can't beat Plotverine or B) are way TOO strong to be up for competition in this sort of debate.

At least you're thinking, though. Some creative ideas, me thinks. .

Originally posted by Soljer
I agree, but there's a problem.

You keep naming people that either A) Can't beat Plotverine or B) are way TOO strong to be up for competition in this sort of debate.

At least you're thinking, though. Some creative ideas, me thinks. .

Thanks....meh...can't think of anymore...I'm trying to go for some of the more obscurely powered characters ...and I'm looking at New X-Men for some weakish ones...was thinking Mercury(Cessily )....but I don't know if she'll be able to KO him....interesting topic...though...nice work...

How about Plotertooth or the Plotisher?

Originally posted by Scoobless
How about Plotertooth or the Plotisher?

Originally posted by Scoobless
How about Plotertooth or the Plotisher?



Wouldn't it be Plotertooth? Where is the V in Sabretooth? .

Besides, I don't think the idea behind these sorts of topics is bad. What is the weakest character that could take the VERY best of wolverine? Hell, what is the STRONGEST character that the very WORST of Wolverine could take? Anyone stronger than a deer, or more powerful than a single bullet from a handgun could put him down.....

Originally posted by Soljer
Wouldn't it be Plotertooth? Where is the V in Sabretooth? .

Besides, I don't think the idea behind these sorts of topics is bad. What is the weakest character that could take the VERY best of wolverine? Hell, what is the STRONGEST character that the very WORST of Wolverine could take? Anyone stronger than a deer, or more powerful than a single bullet from a handgun could put him down.....

i swear i saw a v too lol
but i think he fixed it

Originally posted by ExtraMision5555
i swear i saw a v too lol
but i think he fixed it

Aww, damnit.

Editor! RAWR!

Originally posted by ExtraMision5555
i swear i saw a v too lol
but i think he fixed it


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You guys'll have to be faster than that to catch Extremis-Scoob out!

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Darwin...

I'd say Serafina as well...but knowing Wolverine he'll probably manage to dodge her tech...

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/5773/xmen191018gg1.th.jpg
http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/8615/xmen191019we0.th.jpg

Proof that Batman with prep > Wolverine

Originally posted by Scoobless
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You guys'll have to be faster than that to catch Extremis-Scoob out!

Originally posted by Soljer
Alright, this isn't a bash thread, this isn't a joke thread, this isn't a thread to attract Wolverine haters to make pitiful jokes about a fictional character they happen to dislike.

Rather, I am curious; if we take Wolverines highest showings, and ONLY his highest showings, what is the WEAKEST character that could beat him?

This Wolverine can toss well over half a ton single handedly. He can survive a nuke, and a blast by Nitro that took him to the skeleton. He can keep up with Spiderman in speed. He can stab Thanos (even while he holds the fugging infinity gauntlet!). Etc. etc.

Only his greatest showings.

The competition is restricted in that they cannot simply turn off his mutant power, or combat it in anyway. No anti-healing factor corrosives, and no turning off of the X gene permitted. Anyone who can fly is restricted to fifty feet for the match (Wolverine can jump about fifty feet, right? ).

All of this said...what is the weakest character you can think of that can STILL outdo Wolverine? I constructed this name long before you came. Such an atrocity can only be known as... Wolverine Prime!!!!

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I constructed this name long before you came. Such an atrocity can only be known as... Wolverine Prime!!!!

-_-

Plotverine sounds cooler.

Originally posted by Soljer
-_-

Plotverine sounds cooler. Bah... too bad...

Precrisis Wolverine sounds cool though. 2005 was the the year of the fanboy rush, there were many, and the battle bloody, but heroes like DC and others kept the forum safe.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Bah... too bad...

Precrisis Wolverine sounds cool though. 2005 was the the year of the fanboy rush, there were many, and the battle bloody, but heroes like DC and others kept the forum safe.
Originally posted by Soljer
-_-

Plotverine sounds cooler.

Much like we have "PC Superman", I think this entity will become known as "CW Wolverine" for many years to come.

Originally posted by Scoobless
Much like we have "PC Superman", I think this entity will become known as "CW Wolverine" for many years to come.

This stuff started happening waaay before civil war.

Blink

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
This stuff started happening waaay before civil war.

But it's peaking now.... if it turns out to be an MGH thing (and it had better) then Post-CW Wolverine should be back to sane(ish) power levels.



fingers crossed...

Originally posted by Scoobless
But it's peaking now.... if it turns out to be an MGH thing (and it had better) then Post-CW Wolverine should be back to sane(ish) power levels.



fingers crossed...

What if it doesn't and the fanboys finally get what they want?

What gives you the impression that Wolverine would be on MGH?


And that Nitro thing isn't that bad. The artist took some liberties in tune with his stylized art work. The writer said him self that Wolverine's wasn't incinerated... and even if he was it still isn't as bad as when Wolverine was standing under the vend of a nuclear reactor when it released then walked around as a burning ball of flame so hot that the steel steps instantly melted under his feet as he climbed.

Originally posted by Soljer
This Wolverine can toss well over half a ton single handedly. He can survive a nuke, and a blast by Nitro that took him to the skeleton. He can keep up with Spiderman in speed. I fail to understand how either of the above 2 feats are considered top level Wolverine feats. He has performed both those feats MANY times, to the point where they are arguably the NORM.

A high end Wolverine strength feat would be knocking down a door that was being held in place by Omega Level telekinetic X-Man. Wolverine lifting over 1/2 a ton one handed is the standard.

Wolverine dodging projectiles moving at light speed is a high end feat, not keeping up with Spider-Man. DD has kept up with Spider-Man and last time I checked he had olympic level human speed. Wolverine being able to keep up with Spidey is again the standard, no matter how much you all want to deny it. Wolverine has matched Spidey's speed most of the time they meet.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
And that Nitro thing isn't that bad. The artist took some liberties in tune with his stylized art work. The writer said him self that Wolverine's wasn't incinerated... and even if he was it still isn't as bad as when Wolverine was standing under the vend of a nuclear reactor when it released then walked around as a burning ball of flame so hot that the steel steps instantly melted under his feet as he climbed. Thank you god. I thought I was the only person that still remembered that. Everyone complains about Wolverine's rediculous HF these days, but the sad fact is that's how it was portrayed in the definitive Wolverine origin.

Originally posted by Scoobless
Human Torch?



But hasn't Wolverine defeated the human Torch?

More than once?

Originally posted by riceroost
I fail to understand how either of the above 2 feats are considered top level Wolverine feats. He has performed both those feats MANY times, to the point where they are arguably the NORM.

only if you're insane

Consistency isn't contingent on PIS at all. I can understand to a degree. But only to a very small one.