magneto vs green (oliver queen) arrow

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blade31092
Who will win between magneto and green (oliver queen) arrow?

JuanJohnboy

SpunkySmurph
no expression


...

How is this even a fight? What the f**k?

blade31092
He have some wood arrows don't he?

Eternal Idol
Originally posted by blade31092
He have some wood arrows don't he?

That's a moot point, really. What's to stop Magneto from shielding himself with a car, or incinerating the arrow before it reaches him? Better yet, why not just kill the Green Arrow by stopping his heart via electronic impulses throughout GA's body, or even that blood-iron-stripping attack he's done in the past? Mageto has too many advantages going for him. Ollie's a goner before this even began.

Magneto, 10/10.

Fianchettoer
The arrows are able to be manipulated by Magneto, how would this even remotely be anything???

Grimm22
Unless Mags has no helmet and Ollie suddenly has Telepathic powers

or

This is Post-HOM Magneto, Ollie is screwed beyond words

SpunkySmurph
Originally posted by Grimm22
Unless Mags has no helmet and Ollie suddenly has Telepathic powers

or

This is Post-HOM Magneto, Ollie is screwed beyond words

Helmet doesn't stop telepathy, Grimm

Badabing
*Sigh*

Grimm22
Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
Helmet doesn't stop telepathy, Grimm

So what he just wears it for the looks?!? What the f**k?

batdude123
Originally posted by Grimm22
So what he just wears it for the looks?!? What the f**k?

Yup, pretty much.

juggernaut66666
Originally posted by Grimm22
So what he just wears it for the looks?!? What the f**k? Yep Helmet doesn't protect him from telepathy.

Grimm22
Wha?!? What the f**k?

Since when is this?!?

NiņoAraņa
Originally posted by juggernaut66666
Yep Helmet doesn't protect him from telepathy. hmm...shocker, guess since Juggs does it, you can just assume...no expression i mean i know it's wrong now, but i thought the same thing...

batdude123
Originally posted by Grimm22
Wha?!? What the f**k?

Since when is this?!?

Since always. Since day 1.

Innerhype
Naw, I thought his helm stopped telepaths as well.

If not, whats stopping Prof. X from mind raping him

batdude123
Originally posted by Innerhype
Naw, I thought his helm stopped telepaths as well.

If not, whats stopping Prof. X from mind raping him

1. His will

2. His natural resistence due to the electromagnetic energy coursing through his body

3. His shields

Grimm22
Wait wait wait no expression

I'm positive this is hogwash

You guys are putting me on

Innerhype
Originally posted by batdude123
1. His will

2. His natural resistence due to the electromagnetic energy coursing through his body

3. His shields

Hmm, that appears to be absolutely correct...

Co-signed

Grimm22
Originally posted by batdude123
1. His will

If thats the case then why aren't guys like Cap or Thing immune to telepathy no expression

batdude123
Originally posted by Grimm22
If thats the case then why aren't guys like Cap or Thing immune to telepathy no expression

Magneto's will is dead even with Doom's. wink

batdude123
Originally posted by Grimm22
Wait wait wait no expression

I'm positive this is hogwash

You guys are putting me on

Nope. This isn't hogwash.

Grimm22
Originally posted by batdude123
Magneto's will is dead even with Doom's. wink

Hmm erm

Though I doubt that, if that is true then...

Mag's willpower = Doom's Willpower = Cap's Willpower = Thing's Willpower

Grimm22
Originally posted by batdude123
Nope. This isn't hogwash.

But...no expression

I've been reading comics for years now and not once has it ever been said that Mags is immune to telepathy

batdude123
Originally posted by Grimm22
Hmm erm

Though I doubt that, if that is true then...

Mag's willpower = Doom's Willpower = Cap's Willpower = Thing's Willpower

1. It's been proven in a comic that their wills are DEAD EVEN. It's in the Magneto Respect Thread.

2. It's his will, combined w/ the other two things.

3. He resisted Charles' full telepathic assault when Chuck caught him by surprise in bed.

4. Nobody is saying he's IMMUNE to telepathy. We're saying that the helmet provides no telepathic shielding for him. He's highly resistent because of the other things I mentioned.

Clear?

Innerhype
Originally posted by Grimm22
But...no expression

I've been reading comics for years now and not once has it ever been said that Mags is immune to telepathy

Not immune, just has powerful resistances to it.

Horrificus
If Magneto is fishing or playing a video game, not paying attention, GA can kill him with a wooden arrow.

batdude123
Originally posted by Horrificus
If Magneto is fishing or playing a video game, not paying attention, GA can kill him with a wooden arrow.

No he can't. Magneto's durability is in the superhuman range.

Fianchettoer
They're puting you on Grimm--everyone knows Magneto's resistant to telepathy when he has his helmet on. He's mentioned before how it's a "neutralizer".

Tshern
Originally posted by Grimm22
Hmm erm

Though I doubt that, if that is true then...

Mag's willpower = Doom's Willpower = Cap's Willpower = Thing's Willpower
Since when has Cap or Thing EVER proved to have telepathic resistance akin to Magneto or Doom?

batdude123
Originally posted by Fianchettoer
They're puting you on Grimm--everyone knows Magneto's resistant to telepathy when he has his helmet on. He's mentioned before how it's a "neutralizer".

Show me a scan of Magneto saying this about his helmet BEFORE the movies came out. The only time it was mentioned to stop telepathic assaults was in New X-Men after the movies came out.

Anytime before that, his helmet never helped protect him from tp assaults. Hell, even weak telepaths were able to communicate with him telepathically with his helmet on if he allowed it...

ExodusCloak
Here's some food for thought...Magneto a latent telepath...

Latent Telepathy(Helmet On)
http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/6831/secretwars00513ct8.th.jpghttp://img291.imageshack.us/img291/7660/secretwars00514tu6.th.jpg

Astral Projection(Helmet On)
http://img93.imageshack.us/img93/4841/ucxm00604bd2.th.jpghttp://img161.imageshack.us/img161/9981/ucxm00605uf6.th.jpg
http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/9188/ucxm00606us4.th.jpghttp://img179.imageshack.us/img179/4846/ucxm00607bi6.th.jpg

Xavier communicating with Magneto on the Astral Plane...(Helmet On)
http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/515/xmen0409vj2.th.jpghttp://img110.imageshack.us/img110/1060/xmen0410mb2.th.jpg

Here's a scan where he can sense Xaviers mental emanations in his mind....(Helmet On)
http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/6836/xmen0412ab8.th.jpg

batdude123
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Here's some food for thought...Magneto a latent telepath...

Latent Telepathy
http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/6831/secretwars00513ct8.th.jpghttp://img291.imageshack.us/img291/7660/secretwars00514tu6.th.jpg

Astral Projection
http://img93.imageshack.us/img93/4841/ucxm00604bd2.th.jpghttp://img161.imageshack.us/img161/9981/ucxm00605uf6.th.jpg
http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/9188/ucxm00606us4.th.jpghttp://img179.imageshack.us/img179/4846/ucxm00607bi6.th.jpg

http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/515/xmen0409vj2.th.jpghttp://img110.imageshack.us/img110/1060/xmen0410mb2.th.jpg

Here's a scan where he can sense Xaviers mental emanations in his mind....(He is wearing the helmet here)
http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/6836/xmen0412ab8.th.jpg

Thank you, Exodus. wink

ExodusCloak
Originally posted by batdude123
Thank you, Exodus. wink

No prob... Bats stick out tongue

The Astral Projection scan says his brain power is only second to Xavier...heh...

ExodusCloak
I found two more scans...

Here's two more scans of him using telepathy:

http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/1174/uncannyxmen007pg08wv9.th.jpghttp://img109.imageshack.us/img109/8620/masterworks07152mf6.th.jpg

Kid Omegas explanation was telepathy couldn't get in or out...I guess Kid Omega was wrong...or Mags changed the design of his helmet after Xavier with the help of Jean mind wiped him.

Grimm22
Originally posted by Tshern
Since when has Cap or Thing EVER proved to have telepathic resistance akin to Magneto or Doom?

They don't no expression

and Neither does Doom, his armor makes him immune to telepathy and he is immune to low level telepaths without his armor.

Like guys like Purple Man, he is completely immune to.

That and the Thing has been shown to out will possessions and other sorts of things wink

Like when Doom possessed him he was able stop Doom from killing Johnny long enough for Reed to stop Doom by killing him

Grimm22
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
No prob... Bats stick out tongue

The Astral Projection scan says his brain power is only second to Xavier...heh...

Wait so now Mags has telepathy?!? eer

How the hell does that work out?!?

How does controlling Magnetism have to do with telepathy?!?

This is just stupid!

batdude123
Originally posted by Grimm22
Wait so now Mags has telepathy?!? eer

How the hell does that work out?!?

How does controlling Magnetism have to do with telepathy?!?

This is just stupid!

He has control over the entire electromagnetic spectrum, not just magnetism!!!

And I guess telepathy is just a different power granted to him by his X-gene.

FOOM
Bull!
Magneto's helmut is specially designed to prevent telepathy from affecting him. That's why Prof. X doesn't "mind-rape" him... That's not just some bucket he's thrown on there.

None of which has anything to do with Green Arrow... I'm sure this thread was meant as a joke.

Green Lantern vs. Magneto... now that's worth considering

batdude123
Originally posted by FOOM
Bull!
Magneto's helmut is specially designed to prevent telepathy from affecting him. That's why Prof. X doesn't "mind-rape" him... That's not just some bucket he's thrown on there.

None of which has anything to do with Green Arrow... I'm sure this thread was meant as a joke.

Green Lantern vs. Magneto... now that's worth considering

You're brainwashed. sad

In the movies... yes. Not in the actual comic books however. smile

h1a8
Way before the movies came out many of us (including me) thought that his helmet protected him from telepathy. I wonder where we got this from. As it had to be from somewhere and was certainly not from the movies (many years before actually). I believe the writers of the movies thought so too. That's why they implimented it in the movies.

h1a8
Originally posted by batdude123
No he can't. Magneto's durability is in the superhuman range.


How so? He can be cut easily. But I agree that he is kinda durable against electricity, some heat, etc.
Remember Physical durability isn't the same as Energy durability.

batdude123

mighty adam

ExodusCloak
Originally posted by h1a8
Way before the movies came out many of us (including me) thought that his helmet protected him from telepathy. I wonder where we got this from. As it had to be from somewhere and was certainly not from the movies (many years before actually). I believe the writers of the movies thought so too. That's why they implimented it in the movies.

Possibly TAS...or maybe X-Men Evolution....? I think it might have been mentioned on TAS..

batdude123
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Possibly TAS...or maybe X-Men Evolution....? I think it might have been mentioned on TAS..

Doubtful.

One episode, Charles mind f*cked Erik with his helmet on.

ExodusCloak
Originally posted by batdude123
Doubtful.

One episode, Charles mind f*cked Erik with his helmet on.

Could be X-Men Evolution then..? You sure about the TAS thing...because I was brainwashed too(Most probably by that show) until I got into comics...?

Or we all just assumed it...because the helmet is one ugly fashion statement..

batdude123
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Could be X-Men Evolution then..? You sure about the TAS thing...because I was brainwashed too(Most probably by that show) until I got into comics...?

Yup.

I've got some of the old school episodes on tape. I have that one, and he did telepathically assault Erik with his helmet on.

ExodusCloak
Originally posted by batdude123
Yup.

I've got some of the old school episodes on tape. I have that one, and he did telepathically assault Erik with his helmet on.

Then I guess we all assumed it.... confused

Very odd....indeed...

Despicable...
http://scoop.diamondgalleries.com/scoop_article.asp?ai=5902&si=125
http://www.marveldatabase.com/wiki/index.php/Magneto_(Magnus)
http://www.answerbag.com/q_view.php/52333
http://www.marvel.com/universe/Magneto_(Magnus)
http://www.sideshowtoy.com/cgi-bin/category.cgi?item=71751
http://cgi.ebay.com/Magneto-Fans-Life-sized-Replica-helmet- New_W0QQitemZ290043016578QQihZ019QQcategoryZ2483QQ
cmdZViewItem

Lots of confusion...

h1a8

batdude123
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Then I guess we all assumed it.... confused

Very odd....indeed...

Despicable...
http://scoop.diamondgalleries.com/scoop_article.asp?ai=5902&si=125
http://www.marveldatabase.com/wiki/index.php/Magneto_(Magnus)
http://www.answerbag.com/q_view.php/52333
http://www.marvel.com/universe/Magneto_(Magnus)
http://www.sideshowtoy.com/cgi-bin/category.cgi?item=71751
http://cgi.ebay.com/Magneto-Fans-Life-sized-Replica-helmet- New_W0QQitemZ290043016578QQihZ019QQcategoryZ2483QQ
cmdZViewItem

Lots of confusion...

Yes, very odd indeed. erm

batdude123
Originally posted by h1a8
The first scan and second scan is pis (more on that below). The third has nothing to do with his physical durability. The fourth's shows him with a aura around and him not getting hit with non-metal so that's no good. The fifth shows that he is using magnetic powers to either augment his strength (not durability) or effect Hercules being (his blood probably has iron in it) so that's no good.

Now mags have been cut, beat blood from, etc. by lesser force. How can you explain that?

In the first scan, mags would have to be bulletproof to withstand that punch and I believe you are dreaming if you believe mags is bulletproof without his shield. If one was to post a poll on whether they think mags can be penetrated by a sharp arrow then I think that over 99% would vote yes. And probably 100% if we are talking about a bullet instead.

With that said
I believe his shield can block out anything on earth including wood.
But without his magnetic shield he is as good as impaled.

Here's another one:

http://img116.imageshack.us/my.php?image=newmutants04010ay8.jpg

h1a8
Originally posted by batdude123
Here's another one:

http://img116.imageshack.us/my.php?image=newmutants04010ay8.jpg

It is PIS
Batman has even taken hits in the jaw from super strong guys before countless times. That doesn't mean that Batman has super human durability now does it.

Plus none of that means that mags can't be penetrated with something sharp. In which he has been countless times. It was merely blunt force.

batdude123
Originally posted by h1a8
It is PIS
Batman has even taken hits in the jaw from super strong guys before countless times. That doesn't mean that Batman has super human durability now does it.

Plus none of that means that mags can't be penetrated with something sharp. In which he has been countless times. It was merely blunt force.

No, actually it even states it in his bio that the natural energy flowing through his body amps his strength and durability to super human levels.

I've got a million more of these if you want to continue to call them PIS. roll eyes (sarcastic)

h1a8
Originally posted by batdude123
No, actually it even states it in his bio that the natural energy flowing through his body amps his strength and durability to super human levels.


Show me the bio or where it is.

If it is good enough for me then I would just assume that all those times that I have seen mags cut and blood beat from him means that he didn't augment his durability before these things happened. In other words, if that bio you mentioned is from a decent source then you get mad props and I agree with you.

But its hard to believe his skin can't be penetrated by a very sharp arrow.
Don't you agree?

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