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Tenebrous

vs.

Darkseid.


who wins?

depends on the darkseid - tenerberous is about 50-75% of galactus's power.

so it would be hard for darkseid

Tenerberous is exactly as strong as Galactus...

i want to see proof - from what i no he is only 75% - and needed that other girl to take him down completely

Originally posted by lilnutta12
i want to see proof - from what i no he is only 75% - and needed that other girl to take him down completely

where did you get that from....

Originally posted by lilnutta12
i want to see proof - from what i no he is only 75% - and needed that other girl to take him down completely

The story teller states that in Annihalition 01...

Until further notice, Tenebrous is a part of the Cosmic Consonance, therefore would destroy Darkseid...and probably with little effort.

Originally posted by Lord S
Until further notice, Tenebrous is a part of the Cosmic Consonance, .

Galactus himself actually stated this on panel.

Tenebrous owns Darkseid

There is nothing Darkseid could do to him

If Galactus could'nt kill this guys, what chances does Darkseid have... All G could do is impreson them, then again maybe G was just too weak to destroy them... Still theres just too little info about this primodial gods for us to go by...

Originally posted by Lord S
Until further notice, Tenebrous is a part of the Cosmic Consonance, therefore would destroy Darkseid...and probably with little effort.

Co-signed. I just don't agree on the little effort...
Currently Darkseid has the Anti-Life Equation. He turned the New Gods into homeless people.

Any pics?

http://img74.imageshack.us/my.php?image=annihilation1025sd0.jpg
http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=annihilation1026hv9.jpg
http://img106.imageshack.us/my.php?image=annihilation1027nc2.jpg
http://img135.imageshack.us/my.php?image=annihilation1028wm5.jpg
http://img103.imageshack.us/my.php?image=annihilation1029ed2.jpg
http://img139.imageshack.us/my.php?image=annihilation1030rk3.jpg
http://img143.imageshack.us/my.php?image=annihilation1031032en6.jpg
http://img141.imageshack.us/my.php?image=annihilation1033wa4.jpg

Damn

Originally posted by Rewmac
Co-signed. I just don't agree on the little effort...
Currently Darkseid has the Anti-Life Equation. He turned the New Gods into homeless people.

That's a different story arc, current Darkseid doesn't have the anti-life equation.

who is exactly Tenebrous can someone explain his origin i know tat he got galactus power cosmic

Originally posted by Milkie
http://img74.imageshack.us/my.php?image=annihilation1025sd0.jpg
http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=annihilation1026hv9.jpg
http://img106.imageshack.us/my.php?image=annihilation1027nc2.jpg
http://img135.imageshack.us/my.php?image=annihilation1028wm5.jpg
http://img103.imageshack.us/my.php?image=annihilation1029ed2.jpg
http://img139.imageshack.us/my.php?image=annihilation1030rk3.jpg
http://img143.imageshack.us/my.php?image=annihilation1031032en6.jpg
http://img141.imageshack.us/my.php?image=annihilation1033wa4.jpg Though it was a complete cheap shot how they beat Galactus; by sneaking up from behind him and "frying his brain"

Tenebrous own DS

ns pics anymore?

Why does DS have to have the OB's to beat Tenebrous?

I think the main crux of the argument is that even with Darkseid's Omega Beams, he wouldn't win because the Omega Beams don't have an effect on those who are part of the cosmic consonance. In other words, those who are necessary for the existence of the universe.

Then again, I wonder what the Anti-Life Equation would do. It's supposed to reconstruct reality as he wants right? So technically, he could undo the need for Tenebrous? Anybody got a description on the Anti-Life Equation?

Originally posted by Horrificus
Why does DS have to have the OB's to beat Tenebrous? Its his power?

That's like asking why Hulk needs rage to beat Thor.

Originally posted by Juntai
Its his power?

That's like asking why Hulk needs rage to beat Thor.

Hulk needs more than rage to defeat Thor, he needs a Plot device and a large fan base.

BTW Tenebrous wins

Tenebrous, easy. galactus has shown darkseid is nothing but an annoyance to him, and tenebrous is if not exactly, almost exactly as powerful as galactus. in a one on one fight galactus and tenebrous would probably fight to a standstill, thats why that female one whos name i cant remember helped out.

Originally posted by Decay
Tenebrous, easy. galactus has shown darkseid is nothing but an annoyance to him, and tenebrous is if not exactly, almost exactly as powerful as galactus. in a one on one fight galactus and tenebrous would probably fight to a standstill, thats why that female one whos name i cant remember helped out.

Tenebrous was actually beating Galactus ass, until Aegis decided to step in.

Originally posted by Madvillain
Tenebrous

vs.

Darkseid.


who wins?

Tenebrous

The-essential-for-the-universe thing is a bit sketchy in the Omega Effect, it didnt work against Imperiex, the latter was destroyed and the universe goes on. How essentials was Imperiex if Kismet wanted to take him down? Plain and simple, Imperiex was more powerful, the OE didnt work on him, same with Tenebrous.

Originally posted by Bentley
The-essential-for-the-universe thing is a bit sketchy in the Omega Effect, it didnt work against Imperiex, the latter was destroyed and the universe goes on. How essentials was Imperiex if Kismet wanted to take him down? Plain and simple, Imperiex was more powerful, the OE didnt work on him, same with Tenebrous. Didn't work? It sure seemed to help Supes destroy the Imperiex body.

It didnt work in the "you are vanished from existance, time and reality, ooops I just won!" kind of way, if Imperiex was just hurted, we can assume that others beyond DS's powers will shrug the OE off. No need of talking about essential-for-the-universe nonesense.

Originally posted by Bentley
It didnt work in the "you are vanished from existance, time and reality, ooops I just won!" kind of way, if Imperiex was just hurted, we can assume that others beyond DS's powers will shrug the OE off. No need of talking about essential-for-the-universe nonesense. The Omega Beams can be used for more than just erasing. They have pretty much any effect.

Who's to say who is definitively above Darkseid, who's defeated armies of gods, and is the balance of creation itself -- that they may be able to simply shrug it off?

Imperiex's body was obliterated by Supes and the beams.

But OWAW was a Superman story, just got some others involved.

The point is that, when we dont know for sure if DS is above someone's level or not, it would be wrong for us to assume that he can erase them from existance, that would be as much as assuming that DS can beat them since we dont really know what it takes to stand the OE.

Before that we could assume that it could erase anyone, but now we have stronger reasons to doubt it give its been messured.

I'd say Tenebrious wins. If this were DS in his true God Form,with the use of the ALE, I'd Say DS wins. They are both Essential to the Universe so neither can kill the other. It's kind of Inconclusive becuz we dont' know how powerful DS is now, and Tenebrious only has very little showings.

I thought individually Aegis & Tenebrous are equal to Galactus.
Aegis
http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/9838/aegiszt6.th.jpg

Tenebrous
http://img400.imageshack.us/img400/5495/tenebrouslx0.th.jpg

Primodial elders
http://img215.imageshack.us/my.php?image=atzl3.jpg

Silver Surfer Annihilation #3 page 16
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/6234/annihilationsilversurfeam2.th.jpg
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/6234/annihilationsilversurfeam2.jpg

darkseid loses bad

Originally posted by xmeat
darkseid loses bad

Based on what? The Spectre was Hurt During his fight with DS. Surely you dont' think Tenebrious is anywhere near the Spectre's power. DS can surely get some good licks in. And considering DS can't be killed, he could just keep coming back to be a serious bother to Tenebrious.

tenebrous beat galactus who thought darkseid was a insect to him.

Originally posted by xmeat
tenebrous beat galactus who thought darkseid was a insect to him.

Are you refering to a NON CANNON comic book? The same comic book that Galactus stated that DS had Great power. How many beings would tell someone how powerful they are and consider them an insect hmm? As I said before, Tenebrious cannot kill DS and since Tenebrious isn't as powerful as the Spectre, I would surmise that they both would be able to hurt each other since DS clearly is powerful enough to hurt the Spectre.

i cant believe your trying to prove darkseid someone who superman defeated can beat a galactus level being. Are you trying to say supes could beat tenebrous as well.

X Meat was cool

DS loses to Tenebrous

Darkseid gets raped.

Barring a decent amount of prep time or the ALE, DS is screwed. Tenebrous and Aegis aren't equal to Big G, but they're close enough that DS is in deep shit.

Tenebrous/Aegis each = power to Galactus

DS is in trouble

Originally posted by guy222
Tenebrous/Aegis each = power to Galactus

DS is in trouble

I think Galactus can take one alone, but they're certainly strong enough to beat Darkseid.

Incidentally, Odin was able to take out the Surfer faster than Aegis and/or Tenebrous

Galactus defeated T&A and imprisoned them in the Kyln

They got their revenge on Big G

Odin did. Thanos didn't harm Odin either

Originally posted by guy222
Galactus defeated T&A and imprisoned them in the Kyln

They got their revenge on Big G

Odin did. Thanos didn't harm Odin either

Your always against Big G

Nah, friend

I have threads with Galactus and he's won them

I think Galactus would like a rematch against Tenebrous. It would be a good fight

Originally posted by SpiderGauntlet
Your always against Big G

Guy's always with whatever is right

regardless of whether or not T&A are important to the "Cosmic Consonance" (Surfer killed both and the Universe is still carrying on regardless...), each one of them is near Galactus (normal G) levels of power and that is far far far above anything DS can tussle with.

Tenebrous and Aegis is equal to a hungry unprepared Galactus...

And Tenebrous wasn't capable of defeating Galactus, who was hungry, by himself Tenebrous needed Aegis in order to defeat Galactus, Also Tenebrous Armor is pretty broken too.

Good fight nonetheless

Originally posted by guy222
Good fight nonetheless

Great fight

cheers

Originally posted by llagrok

Incidentally, Odin was able to take out the Surfer faster than Aegis and/or Tenebrous

Odin was able to take out the old Surfer. Galactus gave Surfer a power boost during Annihilation, you remember? Not that it helped much - still he lasted long enough to use the Crunches' energy.

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
Odin was able to take out the old Surfer. Galactus gave Surfer a power boost during Annihilation, you remember? Not that it helped much - still he lasted long enough to use the Crunches' energy. Surfer's also had two other upgrades before Annihilation, but after the Odin incident.
When he had a piece of the Black Body merged with him, and when a piece of Deathurge merged with him.