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Fights in space somewhere.

Originally posted by Faceman
Fights in space somewhere.
Orion via Astro-force

Originally posted by Galan777
Orion via Astro-force

Runner travels back in time and kills Orion as a baby

Originally posted by Faceman
Yeah the astro-force is pretty funny isn't it?

Originally posted by Galan777
Yeah the astro-force is pretty funny isn't it?

Runner is Immortal to since Death banned the Elders from Death

Originally posted by golem370
Runner is Immortal to since Death banned the Elders from Death the only showings runner really has is speedblitzing surfer and Thanos......... Thats nothing to orion /w/ astro-force.

and him being immortal means nothing here

Originally posted by Faceman
good argument

The Runner 9/10

He's what the Silver Surfer wishes he could be.

hard to say. runner DID overpower ss h2h, but i wonder if he was using his emotion control. ss was also surprised by the runner. in a rematch, it might go differently. i doubt his emotion control would affect orion who is flat out crazy and wouldn't hesitate to go all out right from the start. in overall power, orion is certainly in ss's class (despite what that idiot did to orion in that xover . . .) so i'd say he certainly has a chance.

it wasn't specified if runner had the space gem, btw. so no, he ISN'T going back in time . . .

What about the Time Travel trick.

Originally posted by golem370
What about the Time Travel trick. not w/o the gem

Originally posted by Galan777
the only showings runner really has is speedblitzing surfer and Thanos......... Thats nothing to orion /w/ astro-force.

and him being immortal means nothing here

Originally posted by leonidas hard to say. runner DID overpower ss h2h, but i wonder if he was using his emotion control. ss was also surprised by the runner. in a rematch, it might go differently. i doubt his emotion control would affect orion who is flat out crazy and wouldn't hesitate to go all out right from the start. in overall power, orion is certainly in ss's class (despite what that idiot did to orion in that xover . . .) so i'd say he certainly has a chance.

it wasn't specified if runner had the space gem, btw. so no, he ISN'T going back in time . . .

Originally posted by Galan777
not w/o the gem

immortality doesn't matter in the fight because a ko=win.

Originally posted by Faceman
I didn't think you were such an immature person, it seems as though this is the extent of your debating skills....

Originally posted by Galan777
I didn't think you were such an immature person, it seems as though this is the extent of your debating skills.... nah, your short fuse is what's making me laugh. And i can care less what you think.

Originally posted by Faceman
nah, your short fuse is what's making me laugh. And i can care less what you think. I don't really have a short fuse, but you didn't even try to make a point as to how Runner will beat Orion /w/ Astro-Force....

Runner = Surfer > Orion

Originally posted by Faceman
Runner = Surfer > Orion Runner> Orion /w/ Astro-Force? no

what feats does Runner have that make you believe this?

Originally posted by Galan777
Runner> Orion /w/ Astro-Force? no I don't think the thread starter mentioned anything about the Astro- Force , nor the space gem. So try to follow the rules of the thread genius.

Speeblitz,Immortal Power,Time Travel & Power of Pirmordial- The power primordial is a source of fictional energy in the Marvel Universe. It is energy left over from the Big Bang. The only known users of the power primordial are a group of ancient beings known as the Elders of the Universe.

The power primordial can be used for a wide range of effects including augmentation of strength, molecular rearrangment, force fields, teleportation, and numerous others. The Elders have developed powers based on their respective obsessions.

While it has similar effects, it is not the same as the power cosmic used by Galactus and his heralds

Originally posted by Faceman
I don't think the thread starter mentioned anything about the Astro- Force , nor the space gem. So try to follow the rules of the thread genius. Follow the rules?

the astro-force is a part of Orion

get the facts straight before you throw out insults my friend

Originally posted by Galan777
Follow the rules?

the astro-force is a part of Orion

get the facts straight before you throw out insults my friend Hey you call being called genius an insult?

Originally posted by Faceman
I don't think the thread starter mentioned anything about the Astro- Force , nor the space gem. So try to follow the rules of the thread genius.
Originally posted by golem370
Speeblitz,Immortal Power,Time Travel & Power of Pirmordial- The power primordial is a source of fictional energy in the Marvel Universe. It is energy left over from the Big Bang. The only known users of the power primordial are a group of ancient beings known as the Elders of the Universe.

The power primordial can be used for a wide range of effects including augmentation of strength, molecular rearrangment, force fields, teleportation, and numerous others. The Elders have developed powers based on their respective obsessions.

While it has similar effects, it is not the same as the power cosmic used by Galactus and his heralds Wait, the thread starter didn't say anything about Runner using the power primordeal, so can he still use it?

Originally posted by Galan777
Wait, the thread starter didn't say anything about Runner using the power primordeal, so can he still use it? The power primordeal is part of Runner, so its o.k.

Originally posted by Faceman
The power primordeal is part of Runner, so its o.k. Come on now, do you want to argue with me or something?

Originally posted by Galan777
Come on now, do you want to argue with me or something? Who's arguing ? Its simply called a debate between friends and a former team mate.

Originally posted by Faceman
Who's arguing ? Its simply called a debate between friends and a former team mate. Nah its fine.....

If Runner is allowed to tap into the Primordeal because its a part of him, then i'll assume that Orion can use the Astro-Force because it is a part of him as well....

I'll take Orion.

Originally posted by Galan777
Nah its fine.....

If Runner is allowed to tap into the Primordeal because its a part of him, then i'll assume that Orion can use the Astro-Force because it is a part of him as well.... Didn't Surfer already drop Orion on panel , yeah its a cross over , but its the only thing we have to go on as evidence. If i remember correctly it was a short fight, probably a shorter fight than the Runner / Surfer battle. Also how long has Orion been around? I hope over 5, 000 years if he wants to stand a chance in this fight.

Originally posted by Faceman
Didn't Surfer already drop Orion on panel , yeah its a cross over , but its the only thing we have to go on as evidence. If i remember correctly it was a short fight, probably a shorter fight than the Runner / Surfer battle. Also how long has Orion been around? I hope over 5, 000 years if he wants to stand a chance in this fight. Orion is vastly more powerful now either way. Don't use the early 90's as your guide as many DC characters are likewise vastly more powerful now, and especially a crossover from that era. Which isn't viable on the forum as is.

Im leaning towards the runner, unless i see feats on orions behalf.

Originally posted by Juntai
Orion is vastly more powerful now either way. Don't use the early 90's as your guide as many DC characters are likewise vastly more powerful now, and especially a crossover from that era. Which isn't viable on the forum as is. Well it was printed and OK'd by both companies , so i have to go with it Or is KMC, above Marvel/ DC ?

Originally posted by Faceman
Well it was printed and OK'd by both companies , so i have to go with it Or is KMC, above Marvel/ DC ?
if its non cannon its not valid.

Originally posted by Faceman
Well it was printed and OK'd by both companies , so i have to go with it Or is KMC, above Marvel/ DC ? There are forum rules. Read them.

Originally posted by Juntai
There are forum rules. Read them. Sorry not much for rules.... But i am all for on panel evidence.

Originally posted by Faceman
Sorry not much for rules.... But i am all for on panel evidence. So you want to say Kyle as a GL can outdo Thanos and Parallax/Hal at the same time?
I think Kyle just leaped and bounded over Surfer and most of the cosmics in either universe.. .. in your opinion.

Originally posted by Galan777
Wait, the thread starter didn't say anything about Runner using the power primordeal, so can he still use it?

Now was there talk about the Astro Force in the beginging of the thread It should be Orion with Astro Force vs Runner with Power Primordeal. The Strongest versions of the two characters

Originally posted by golem370
Now was there talk about the Astro Force in the beginging of the thread It should be Orion with Astro Force vs Runner with Power Primordeal. The Strongest versions of the two characters Lets stick to this idea.

Originally posted by Juntai
So you want to say Kyle as a GL can outdo Thanos and Parallax/Hal at the same time?
I think Kyle just leaped and bounded over Surfer and most of the cosmics in either universe.. .. in your opinion. Are you arguing with yourself? I think you've read one to many threads.