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? no prep time. fight takes place on earth

Silver Surfer completely dominated Orion in the crossover. Thanos and Darkseid are near equals.

SS and Thanos take the majority.

Stop this shit it is getting annoying...

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
Stop this shit it is getting annoying...

Very. Any way, Sufer and THanos lose. DS with the ALE beats all three.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Very. Any way, Sufer and THanos lose. DS with the ALE beats all three.

thanos w/ig destroys em

Darkseid and Orion rather easily.

I would say Thanos and SS 6/10. SS>Orion which makes up the difference

Originally posted by tdawg14
I would say Thanos and SS 6/10. SS>Orion which makes up the difference

Right, and Darkseid>>>Thanos

Darkseid beats Thanos, and how powerful is Orion exactly? I would put him a notch above Thor, but people seem to think the Surfer curbtomps him. Besides, even if the Surfer beats Orion, how can he damage DS? I dont think I have the level? Does his upgrade put him in enough level to hurt a skyfather?

Originally posted by Bentley
Darkseid beats Thanos, and how powerful is Orion exactly? I would put him a notch above Thor, but people seem to think the Surfer curbtomps him. Besides, even if the Surfer beats Orion, how can he damage DS? I dont think I have the level? Does his upgrade put him in enough level to hurt a skyfather?

orion is a badass

Darkseid is not that much better than Thanos. Maybe old Darkseid is but current DS is less than Thanos.

Originally posted by tdawg14
Darkseid is not that much better than Thanos. Maybe old Darkseid is but current DS is less than Thanos.

They are one in the same.

There is no such thing as Pre-Crisis Darkseid...

Besides, most of his uber feats take place after Crisis on Infinite Earth.

Superman has beaten Darkseid twice (because he's Superman) and Darkseid has punked Superman at least 5-6 times...

The other two times are PIS.

Based on everything I've seen out of the two, DS is not that much better than Thanos. They both have ridiculous feats.

Originally posted by tdawg14
Based on everything I've seen out of the two, DS is not that much better than Thanos. They both have ridiculous feats.

You mean the Darkseid that punks multiple skyfathers at the same time for fun vs. the Thanos who's only able to compete, but not beat skyfathers?

Yeah. Darkseid is above Thanos, and he'd beat him like a two dollar whore.

Yeah, the DS who gets his ass whooped by Superman. Thanos repeatedly whips up on the Surfer.

SS>>>Supes

Thanos can hang in there with Darkseid. No doubt about it

Originally posted by tdawg14
Yeah, the DS who gets his ass whooped by Superman. Thanos repeatedly whips up on the Surfer.

SS>>>Supes

Thanos can hang in there with Darkseid. No doubt about it

Its just my opinion Juggs. I may be wrong

Originally posted by tdawg14
Yeah, the DS who gets his ass whooped by Superman. Thanos repeatedly whips up on the Surfer.

SS>>>Supes

Thanos can hang in there with Darkseid. No doubt about it

And Darkseid has beaten Superman at least 6 times. I hope you understand those two times were PIS. One of those defeats was in a Loeb book ().

That's almost worse than Spider-man beating Firelord. Probably is, actually...

Anyway, Thanos cannot compete with Darkseid at his best. Thanos would get treated like a child.

Thanos wins alone, while Surfer has a shower

Originally posted by batdude123
And Darkseid has beaten Superman at least 6 times. I hope you understand those two times were PIS. One of those defeats was in a Loeb book ().

That's almost worse than Spider-man beating Firelord. Probably is, actually...

Anyway, Thanos cannot compete with Darkseid at his best. Thanos would get treated like a child.

do you even know who Thanos is ?

Originally posted by DevilGoblin
Thanos wins alone, while Surfer has a shower
The genius has spoken!

Originally posted by DevilGoblin
do you even know who Thanos is ?

Do you know anything about Darkseid other than his PIS losses against Superman?

Of course not.

Darkseid would make Thanos his slave.

Originally posted by batdude123
Do you know anything about Darkseid other than his PIS losses against Superman?

Of course not.

Darkseid would make Thanos his slave.

The only slave i saw was Darkseid when he lost to Doomsday. Hulksday made him his ***** and beat him with the most embarassing defeat of comic history.

Originally posted by DevilGoblin
The only slave i saw was Darkseid when he lost to Doomsday. Hulksday made him his ***** and beat him with the most embarassing defeat of comic history.
Did you know that Hulk got beaten by Antman?

Hulk got beat by an electrified net *shrugs*

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
Did you know that Hulk got beaten by Antman?

scans please and good luck for the quest....

Originally posted by DevilGoblin
scans please and good luck for the quest....
The bigger shame is that he handed his ass to a giant snake

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Hulk got beat by an electrified net *shrugs*

low level hulk + bad writing ? oh yes, everything is possible

high level hulk ? he beat the Galaxy Master a cosmic being who would make Thanos and Darkseid his slaves

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
The bigger shame is that he handed his ass to a giant snake

and he beat the Galaxy Master and Onslaught

keep on posting and thanks for the laugh

Originally posted by DevilGoblin
low level hulk + bad writing ? oh yes, everything is possible

high level hulk ? he beat the Galaxy Master a cosmic being who would make Thanos and Darkseid his slaves

So basically you will dispute low showings for Hulk; but if say Darkseid has a low showing you declare it as legit? hmmm...

Originally posted by DevilGoblin
The only slave i saw was Darkseid when he lost to Doomsday. Hulksday made him his ***** and beat him with the most embarassing defeat of comic history.

And Thanos w/ the IG was stabbed by Wolverine.

This is the same Darkseid that that took the planets Daxam and Apokolips and switched their places in the galaxy while mind controlling three billion Daxamites at the same time.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid91/pc677ab2c0b95683cd3079854cf6f5809/fa661adf.jpg

Devil Hulk ftw!

Originally posted by King_Mungi
So basically you will dispute low showings for Hulk; but if say Darkseid has a low showing you declare it as legit? hmmm...

he lost to DD, it was not a low showing. DD is easy out of his league.

Originally posted by DevilGoblin
he lost to DD, it was not a low showing. DD is easy out of his league.

No that was a Darkseid avatar as noted, Darkseid the real Darkseid has never lost a physical battle stated on panel. Even the writer in the questions page stated Doomsday got lucky. I assume you know nothing about Darkseid, as if you knew his high end feats we wouldn't be having his discussion now would we?

Originally posted by DevilGoblin
he lost to DD, it was not a low showing. DD is easy out of his league.

tohslaugh

Get out.

Question of the day!
Why are we trying to debate with an idiot?

Hulk lost to a electrified net, it was not a low showing. Electrified net is easy out of his league.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
No that was a Darkseid avatar as noted, Darkseid the real Darkseid has never lost a physical battle stated on panel.



you can't believe what you just said......please tell me you're not serious!!

by the way: the hulk who lost vs Void was an avatar who can't get stronger!!!
buahahhahahahahhahahhahahhahahhahh

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
Question of the day!
Why are we trying to debate with an idiot?

said by someone who thinks: DS > Thanos and Champion

Originally posted by DevilGoblin


you can't believe what you just said......please tell me you're not serious!!

by the way: the hulk who lost vs Void was an avatar who can't get stronger!!!
buahahhahahahahhahahhahahhahahhahh

you just proved you know nothing about Darkseid. Please do research and stop being ignorant
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Originally posted by Draco69

It was strongly implied and basically outright stated in a roundabout way in New Gods#15 that all pre-JKFW Darkseid losses were avatars, and that the "true" Darkseid likely can't lose on the physical plane:

http://img442.imageshack.us/my.php?image=f9cca559jpgorig2ra.jpg

Originally posted by DevilGoblin
said by someone who thinks: DS > Thanos and Champion

Darkseid is above Thanos and Champion put together.

My suggestion would be to know what you're talking about before you post utter crap.

HULKERZZ CANZ BEATERZ GALACACACATUSSSERZZZZ!!!!!1111



Please, just stop posting all together.

Originally posted by Jimmy-Chan
Darkseid's power is such a presence in the universe that time itself collapses without its presence:


http://img463.imageshack.us/my.php?image=legion29022fc.jpg
http://img494.imageshack.us/my.php?image=legion29032ls.jpg
http://img394.imageshack.us/my.php?image=legion29105ko.jpg
http://img367.imageshack.us/my.php?image=legion29134ft.jpg

Originally posted by King_Mungi


Add this to that:

Absolutely beats the shit out of Highfather:

http://img67.imageshack.us/my.php?image=adventure460292wo.jpg

If people around here think Thanos even comes close to Darkseid in terms of power, then he's being extremely underrated.

Well people won't even know Highfather is so they will disregard it. Shame really.
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I'll post this scan once again talking about Darkseid and his avatars

http://img442.imageshack.us/my.php?image=f9cca559jpgorig2ra.jpg

Originally posted by Jimmy-Chan
Darkseid's humanoid form manifestation/avatar, Dark Side, traps Mr. Miracle in Omega, which creates a series of "synthetic lives", although Shilo does end up "convincing" Omega to release him ... Looks to me like he created his own pocket realities. Judge for yourself:

http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/85/ultfx7vk6.th.jpg

http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/7315/ult1yb9mm4.th.jpg

http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/1802/ult2mf9xn8.th.jpg

http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/6852/ult3hx3nd5.th.jpg


http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/221/ult4fz7pl0.th.jpg


http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/1847/ult5cw9uk3.th.jpg

Originally posted by King_Mungi



Originally posted by Jimmy-Chan
Darkseid's power is such a presence in the universe that time itself collapses without its presence:


said by jimmy ?

buahahahahahahahahahahah the guy is a legend in the web buahahahah

congratulations for the source !!!!

Originally posted by DevilGoblin
Originally posted by Jimmy-Chan
Darkseid's power is such a presence in the universe that time itself collapses without its presence:


said by jimmy ?

buahahahahahahahahahahah the guy is a legend in the web buahahahah

congratulations for the source !!!!
Atleast read the scans.

".... Darkseid losses were avatars, and that the "true" Darkseid likely can't lose on the physical plane..."

buahahahahahahahahahahhaahahhaah

Superman and Doomsday destroyed him tons of time, stop with this shit please

Originally posted by DevilGoblin
said by jimmy ?

buahahahahahahahahahahah the guy is a legend in the web buahahahah

congratulations for the source !!!!

Said by Jimmy? read the scans yourself or is it to hard to comprehend that your belief in something is so far off key it's childish?

Even Spectre "killed" Darkseid had to bring him back as he was fundamental to the universe. See there's a difference about doing research and trying to laugh off evidence when you have none yourself. Shame.

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
Atleast read the scans.

"Darkseid losses were avatars, and that the "true" Darkseid likely can't lose on the physical plane..."

this is retarded (really)

Originally posted by DevilGoblin
Originally posted by Jimmy-Chan
Darkseid's power is such a presence in the universe that time itself collapses without its presence:


said by jimmy ?

buahahahahahahahahahahah the guy is a legend in the web buahahahah

congratulations for the source !!!!
You are a pathetic retard.

Originally posted by DevilGoblin
".... Darkseid losses were avatars, and that the "true" Darkseid likely can't lose on the physical plane..."

buahahahahahahahahahahhaahahhaah

Superman and Doomsday destroyed him tons of time, stop with this shit please

Right, yes let's all disregard to what is stated on panel and believe what you have to say with your...ummm...wait what have you actually brought to this debate? other than your oh so witty chackles?

Originally posted by DevilGoblin
".... Darkseid losses were avatars, and that the "true" Darkseid likely can't lose on the physical plane..."

buahahahahahahahahahahhaahahhaah

Superman and Doomsday destroyed him tons of time, stop with this shit please

Do you want me to drag up all the times Darkseid has made Superman look like a little girl?

Originally posted by batdude123
Do you want me to drag up all the times Darkseid has made Superman look like a little girl?

Don't bother he will simply cry foul and remain stead fast in his belief Hulk is the true power in the universe.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Said by Jimmy? read the scans yourself or is it to hard to comprehend that your belief in something is so far off key it's childish?

Even Spectre "killed" Darkseid had to bring him back as he was fundamental to the universe. See there's a difference about doing research and trying to laugh off evidence when you have none yourself. Shame.

i have a question:

would Darkseid beat an enraged hulk in a slugfest ?

please don't tell me "yes" or i'll enter ICT again to make you become the most popular fanboy of the net

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Right, yes let's all disregard to what is stated on panel and believe what you have to say with your...ummm...wait what have you actually brought to this debate? other than your oh so witty chackles?

where exactly did you read : DD beat an avatar and he did not beat the real one ?

Originally posted by DevilGoblin
i have a question:

would Darkseid beat an enraged hulk in a slugfest ?

please don't tell me "yes" or i'll enter ICT again to make you become the most popular fanboy of the net

Right, as Hulk has never been beaten in a slugfust before? Also have I claimed Darkseid would win in a slugfest? nope. Did I mention anything about fighting a slugfest? Nope. Are you trying so hard to keep some level of dignity you have, even when it is speck? Yes.

Ah yes, I see your trying to hide into a corner claiming things never addressed, never raised and of course pointless. Cuidos.

Originally posted by DevilGoblin
where exactly did you read : DD beat an avatar and he did not beat the real one ?

Right with the scan I posted already and of course the questions to the editors page which I mentioned earlier. Having a hard time keeping up?

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Well people won't even know Highfather is so they will disregard it. Shame really.
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I'll post this scan once again talking about Darkseid and his avatars

http://img442.imageshack.us/my.php?image=f9cca559jpgorig2ra.jpg

this scan does not prove anything; i did not read that DD beat an avatar; more and more excuses.....

Darkseid is nothing special and DD is above him. He is just out of his league. I know it, you know it, the world of comics knows it. Case closed.

Here this will save some time, here's Darkseid's Respect Thread. If you don't want to be the joke of the board do some research, and if you can't read the words at least look at the pretty pictures.

Originally posted by DevilGoblin
this scan does not prove anything; i did not read that DD beat an avatar; more and more excuses.....

Darkseid is nothing special and DD is above him. He is just out if his league. I know it, you know it, the world of comics knows it. Case closed.

ignoring the fact, that as stated Darkseid can't be beat but the avatars can. Oh yes your getting good at being subjective.

haha, prove it? when has DD controlled three billion Daxamites? do you even know what Daxamites are? probally not as you wouldn't think DD is out of his league. Oh my.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
ignoring the fact, that as stated Darkseid can't be beat but the avatars can. Oh yes your getting good at being subjective.

haha, prove it? when has DD controlled three billion Daxamites? do you even know what Daxamites are? probally not as you wouldn't think DD is out of his league. Oh my.
I have to tell you that I'm amased by your patiance.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
ignoring the fact, that as stated Darkseid can't be beat but the avatars can. Oh yes your getting good at being subjective.

haha, prove it? when has DD controlled three billion Daxamites? do you even know what Daxamites are? probally not as you wouldn't think DD is out of his league. Oh my.

so he can't be beaten because he says this about himself ?

ask the hulk if he can beat the Living Tribunal and he'll answer YES, Why Not ?

Facts > Words

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
I have to tell you that I amased by your patiance.

i'm too by your ignorance

When the Godwave-wielding Ares reaches to crush DS and the others inside of his star-ship, Darkseid imprisons him, causing time and space itself to harden around the War God. Surprise was involved, but Ares remains held by 'Seid's power long enough for DS to explain the predicament to the heroes and for the Godwave to be dealt with:

1. http://img353.imageshack.us/my.php?image=f9aa2085jpgorig3ov.jpg
2. http://img494.imageshack.us/my.php?image=godwave25iq.jpg

Originally posted by DevilGoblin
i'm too by your ignorance
So am I by your stupidness.

Originally posted by DevilGoblin
so he can't be beaten because he says this about himself ?

ask the hulk if he can beat the Living Tribunal and he'll answer YES, Why Not ?

Facts > Words

Not by the likes of Superman so easily as you claimed, there are people higher than DS who would smack him around.

haha your really not to familar with DS's feats are you? Oh well I think I will end as it's basically trying to talk a mule to go to grocery store with a Mastercard even though all they take is VISA.

Indeed, and fact as shown multiple times DS has created avatars to do his bidding. Please do some research, notice how your "voice of reason" only comes out with a mouth full of bullshit with a strong taste of failure.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
haha, prove it? when has DD controlled three billion Daxamites? do you even know what Daxamites are? probally not as you wouldn't think DD is out of his league. Oh my.

And not only controlling three billion daxamites, but literally switching Apokolips' and Daxam's place in the galaxy with but a thought.

Originally posted by batdude123
And not only controlling three billion daxamites, but literally switching Apokolips' and Daxam's place in the galaxy with but a thought.

I tried to keep the feat as simple as possible as I didn't want to confuse the lad.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
I tried to keep the feat as simple as possible as I didn't want to confuse the lad.

Ah, okay.

Am I in the twighlight zone? All this defending of Darkseid is rediculous. LOL. I'm kidding. I love it.

Originally posted by DevilGoblin
[Bbuahahahahahahahahahahhaahahhaah

darkside is a bum.

Originally posted by ctu_stylez
darkside is a bum.

Not.

By now we all know that DS is stronger than Thanos, and he even has the anti-life equation. Thanos is great because of his mind, not his powerset, he has never shown something as powerful as the OE in a regular basis (his shield is worth mentioning, though).

The point is, DS is stronger and he has the ALE. If he didnt have the ALE and during the next weeks the SS beats Tenebrous and Aegis without PIS, then this may change, if not, this battle is pretty simple.