DE Sidious vs Darth Vader, Darth Tyranus, and Darth Maul

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WildBantha88
each at their peak. Darth Maul gets two lightsabers.

McP
Team

Fated Xtasy
Yeah, i don't think there are a lot of people that could take on this triple threat. I'm going with team, though they take it with high difficulty imo

carthage
The Emperor ****s them up

He moves faster than any of them can perceive, he can one shot them, the OP didn't disable essence transfer so he can never truly die, he can drain them, he can blitz them, ragdoll them, or outduel them.

Sidious wins

Marco1907
Team in a very tough fight. Vader should get speedblitz but presence of Maul and Dooku prevents that, then Vader can use his TK attacks properly while emperor fighting with Maul and Dooku.

Arhael
Team stomps.

Sinious
Originally posted by carthage
The Emperor ****s them up

He moves faster than any of them can perceive, he can one shot them, the OP didn't disable essence transfer so he can never truly die, he can drain them, he can blitz them, ragdoll them, or outduel them.

Sidious wins

Since they'll stick together against their master, I don't think we would see an instant blitz. These guys are above jedi council members. Sidious wouldn't have a really hard time defeating them but he would have to work for it at least.

Marco1907
Originally posted by Sinious
Since they'll stick together against their master, I don't think we would see an instant blitz. These guys are above jedi council members. Sidious wouldn't have a really hard time defeating them but he would have to work for it at least.

Vader is no where near faster than Agen Kolar or Saesee Tiin.

carthage
Great explanations for why the team wins everyonethumb up

carthage
Originally posted by Sinious
Since they'll stick together against their master, I don't think we would see an instant blitz. These guys are above jedi council members. Sidious wouldn't have a really hard time defeating them but he would have to work for it at least.

Sidious has already force choked Dooku across the galaxy, has fought faster than Maul could perceive, and in RODV Vader knew he could kill him with lightning at any point if he wanted too/he's brought Vader down to his knees by mentally attacking him and that was non DE Palpatine.

DE Palpatine fought faster than Leia could perceive, and even ROTS Sidious blitzed four council members which is a superior speed feat to any of these other Sith. DE Palpatine attained more force knowledge, and there is no real way for the Sith to kill him because he can possess them with essence transfer.

Marco1907
Originally posted by carthage
Sidious has already force choked Dooku across the galaxy, has fought faster than Maul could perceive, and in RODV Vader knew he could kill him with lightning at any point if he wanted too/he's brought Vader down to his knees by mentally attacking him and that was non DE Palpatine.

DE Palpatine fought faster than Leia could perceive, and even ROTS Sidious blitzed four council members which is a superior speed feat to any of these other Sith. DE Palpatine attained more force knowledge, and there is no real way for the Sith to kill him because he can possess them with essence transfer.

4 council member ???

He only speedblitzed Tiin and Kolar, he didn't blitzed Kit Fisto. As for choking Dooku, I doubt he could do that again. Dooku wasn't expecting any attack that's why it is not a combative feat, and Sidious was really pissed off when that happen, it is very impressive feat, but doesn't mean Dooku would get stomp by Sidious.

I hope you are trolling, because I want to think that you are just kidding with Sidious fanboys big grin

Sinious
Originally posted by Marco1907
Vader is no where near faster than Agen Kolar or Saesee Tiin.

Are you serious?

Originally posted by carthage
Sidious has already force choked Dooku across the galaxy, has fought faster than Maul could perceive, and in RODV Vader knew he could kill him with lightning at any point if he wanted too/he's brought Vader down to his knees by mentally attacking him and that was non DE Palpatine.

DE Palpatine fought faster than Leia could perceive, and even ROTS Sidious blitzed four council members which is a superior speed feat to any of these other Sith. DE Palpatine attained more force knowledge, and there is no real way for the Sith to kill him because he can possess them with essence transfer.

No need to tell me what Sidious is capable of. You seem to be underestimating the group here though. He chose them as his apprentices for a reason. They know their master and they would be very cautious and stick together. The trio can manage to be a decent challenge for any sith.

All Im saying is that its not a fight that would end in seconds.

carthage
Im not underestimating the group, they're all among the most powerful Sith to ever exist. But even if they were to kill him ( which is near impossible) considering the Emperors speed, they dont have an answer for his essence transfer. He's also brought them all low in weaker incarnations of himself

Sinious
Originally posted by Sinious

All Im saying is that its not a fight that would end in seconds.

Marco1907
Originally posted by Sinious
Are you serious?


Ah yes, I have had enough of this Vader wank. He is already strong but it seems fanboys are now trying to show him unbeatable, and I have decided to use his weakness against Vader fanboys ; his speed.

I can provide you at least 5 EU scans which shows that Vader had trouble against inferior combatants in terms of speed.

Kolar & Tiin are faster than Old Ben Kenobi and Old An'ya Kuro.

Sinious
Originally posted by Marco1907
Ah yes, I have had enough of this Vader wank. He is already strong but it seems fanboys are now trying to show him unbeatable, and I have decided to use his weakness against Vader fanboys ; his speed.

I can provide you at least 5 EU scans which shows that Vader had trouble against inferior combatants in terms of speed.

Kolar & Tiin are faster than Old Ben Kenobi and Old An'ya Kuro.

No offense but you are the only one who sounds like a fanboy here with your Maul wank. In EU, Vader has feats above both Maul and Dooku and in the movies, he is stated to be %80 of ROTJ Sidious.

Who did he have trouble with exactly and how is that relevant if he didnt lose at the end to inferior opponents?

Lord Stark
God damn how many times do I have to spell this out.
In raw power:
ROTJ Vader>/=Darth Tyranus>/=ROTS Anakin>ESB Vader>ANH Vader>/=TFU Vader>TCWs Maul>TPM Maul>Purge Vader

Marco1907
TCW Maul = Count Dooku > RotJ Vader > TPM Maul > ANH Vader

Vader is too slow, I don't care his ridiculous TK. Battles are decided by lightsaber combat generally, just like Dooku said to Yoda ;



Or just like Windu kicked Sidious butt, or RotJ Luke kicked Vader's butt etc.

McP
Originally posted by Lord Stark
In raw power:
ROTJ Vader>/=Darth Tyranus>/=ROTS Anakin>ESB Vader>ANH Vader>/=TFU Vader>TCWs Maul>TPM Maul>Purge Vader

What do you mean by "raw power"? I always thought, that Anakin is top1 in raw power.

I would say, that in raw power:
ROTS Anakin >> ROTJ Vader >= Dooku > TCW Maul. ESB or ANH Vader has the same raw power as ROTJ Vader, but ROTJ Vader superior to his former states because of his skill.

Or possible, I misread your definition of "raw power". Then, I would say:
ROTS Anakin (prime mental state) > ROTJ Vader >= Dooku > regular Anakin >= TCW Maul = TESB Vader > ANH Vader = TPM Maul > Vaders between ANH and ROTS

carthage
The irony of Sinus calling people fanboys... Sorry bro I had to say it big grin

Sinious
Originally posted by carthage
The irony of Sinus calling people fanboys... Sorry bro I had to say it big grin

You do realize Sinious is not my real name right? Its made up from Sidious. Not sure how thats supposed to make me angry.

Oh and yes, I am not a fanboy. I wank when a character is unfairly lowballed by ignorance and sometimes I wank just for the art of it. smokin'

carthage
Im not trying to make you angry Sinus

Emperordmb
Wanking characters you like is far more respectable than shitting on characters just to piss people off.

Sinious
Originally posted by carthage
Im not trying to make you angry Sinus

Thank you, little one.

Selenial
Originally posted by Emperordmb
Wanking characters you like is far more respectable than shitting on characters just to piss people off.

Debatable.

carthage
Originally posted by Emperordmb
Wanking characters you like is far more respectable than shitting on characters just to piss people off.

Bane has nothing on the characters hes often compared too. Its not my problem if his feats are inferior. Go cry elsewhere, you want me to stop bothering you?, then why did you show up when I was joking around with Sinious? Go away

Vorpal Ruin
Sidious force storm ftw.

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