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THE RULES
➕ SoD Maul. Opponents are all in Legends incarnations.
➕ Neutral ground, 4 meters starting distance.
➕ Full restoration after each round.
➕ In character of course.

THE GAUNTLET
1. Freedon Nadd
2. RotS Obi-Wan Kenobi
3. Starkiller
4. Exar Kun
5. RotJ Darth Vader
6. DE Luke Skywalker
7. Talzin
8. Jacen Solo

4

quanchi dies

Down at 1, probably.

Originally posted by SunRazer
Down at 1, probably.
Lol, don't saw that Nadd is one. He wins only 2 and maybe 3 xD

Originally posted by JKBart
quanchi dies

Loses all

Originally posted by BazookaMaster
Loses all

1.

Loses to all except Kenobi.

Takes Kenobi and Starkiller. The others are really powerful :/

Originally posted by chingchangwalla
Takes Starkiller. The others are really powerful :/

Scuse you?

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Scuse you?

Relax, remember, have hope, all will be well......

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Scuse you?
Starkiller sucks Syndi

CAV?

Only person he could beat is Kenobi, and that's a toughie.

Ching and me on a team vs UCanShootMyNova I have Freedon Nadd Ching has SoD Maul, and UCanShootMyNova has SK. Fite me. (JK)

Yeah, Maul could only possibly beat Kenobi, although if you take it the junior novel at face value and believe Obi-Wan could've resisted Dooku but was only ragdolled because he was caught off-guard, then Maul loses to Kenobi as well.

We need someone to make a real case for Maul. He is BY FAR the most hated on KMC thanks to Quan.

The Junior novel notes the possibility Kenobi might've countered, but it isn't certain.

Regardless, Kenobi's improvement from TCW should be considerable(since suddenly resisting Dooku is a legitimate possibility, even if not the most likely) to the point that Maul ain't gonna ragdoll him any more than Vader can ragdoll 'Killer.

So he should probably lose all, tbh.

The junior novel just claims that Obi-Wan couldn't counter such a sudden attack, not that the attack could have been countered if it wasn't sudden. But that's kind of how Choke works anyway.

Well, Dooku's TK is way more powerful than Maul's anyaway, so if a ragdoll occurs, it's not gonna knock Kenobi out like Dooku could.

And I'm sure Kenobi could hurl a stone at Maul or something to distract him. I mean, he even got out of Anakin's Choke-hold.

Ehh. Maul's is pretty potent and if he can't outright ragdoll Maul his force edge is irrelevant.

What do you mean Maul ragdolling Maul? You mean Dooku or Obi-Wan?

I'm thinking out loud. Dooku vs Maul

Originally posted by chingchangwalla
We need someone to make a real case for Maul. He is BY FAR the most hated on KMC thanks to Quan.

I don't hate him. Like at all. Despite Legends and Neph's wank I also appreciate Vaylin and Arcann.

Originally posted by chingchangwalla
I'm thinking out loud. Dooku vs Maul

Dooku ragdolling Maul isn't that much of a stretch, tbh. Even if he couldn't ragdoll, that doesn't mean his Force edge is irrelevant, at all.

maul dies afevery roudn

mismatch spitee

nu i am an author loll

Originally posted by Azronger
Dooku ragdolling Maul isn't that much of a stretch, tbh. Even if he couldn't ragdoll, that doesn't mean his Force edge is irrelevant, at all.
Well not irrelevant but not a game changer.
Maul could very well claim a victory through simply tanking everything Dooku throws at him and waiting for him to tire. I still see the Count winning a majority obviously but it's interesting.

A powerful burst of lightning from Dooku could end Maul right then and there. Not kill, but incapacitate, permanently. A simple Force push could do the same, tbh.

A single attack? I'm not too sure about that, considering Anakin and Obi-Wan weren't killed instantly when they were up against Dooku

Originally posted by Azronger
A powerful burst of lightning from Dooku could end Maul right then and there. Not kill, but incapacitate, permanently. A simple Force push could do the same, tbh. Good lord.

Well, considering a single attack from an injured Dooku was enough to kill Asajj Ventress, I don't favor Maul's chances.

In fact, an even more injured Dooku - quite literally half-dead - has already proven his superiority to Maul, when he joined Sidious and Maul joined Talzin, Dooku and Sidious began to overpower them, whereas previously it had been a stalemate:

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Even if it wouldn't outright kill him, Maul's reaction to even the weakest Force lightning has been to collapse on his knees:
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To more powerful - although still non-lethal - blasts:
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So yes, a single blast of lightning from Dooku will permanently take Maul out of the fight. I'd even argue this applies to Telekinesis:
http://static5.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_large/11122/111225346/5370533-obi-wan+tk+maul.gif

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/124590/4421345-6669835845-y4Yag.gif

Note that Obi-Wan has endured about just as much pain as Maul has in his life, yet was still knocked by Dooku.

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http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/124590/3788751-8fb20.gif

Durge being strong enough to do this:
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So I can definately see Maul getting one-shot by Dooku's lightning and TK.

Next up on "array every source possible in the most negative light against one character while worshipping the other"...

^ It's better than what I've seen from you as of late. Well done. Azronger.

Originally posted by ILS
Next up on "array every source possible in the most negative light against one character while worshipping the other"...
Yeah, Dooku isn't ragdolling Maul, as much as I am a Dooku fan.

Originally posted by ILS
Next up on "array every source possible in the most negative light against one character while worshipping the other"...
Let me have a go!

- Savage was hit by Dooku's Lightning no less than 5 times, and he still got up each time
- Savage choked and ragdolled Dooku and Ventress at the same time.
- He pushed back Anakin and Kenobi at the same time in sabers, and knocked them on their asses when he lashed out with the Force.
- Maul casually disarmed savage in 2 seconds and then literally stepped on his head
- Savage to Maul: "I'm not like you, I never was..."

But wait, there's more! Having just proved that Maul is by far Dooku's superior in matters of dueling, I will now prove he's superior in the Force as well:

- Sidious holo-choked Dooku from half a galaxy away.
- he didn't do the same to Maul in SOD despite having the chance(and reason) multiple times.

Ergo Sidious can't assert his dominance over Maul as easily as he can with Dooku. Because Maul is stronger in the Force.

Since I'm a gentleman I'm not even going to mention the deleted TCW scene where Maul Force pushes Sidious and pins him to the wall, a feat which in the entire mythos only Yoda manages to (partially) replicate.

And speaking of Yoda, here's the cherry on top:

- Yoda immediately sensed Maul's resurrection in the Force and was very disturbed.
- Dooku himself also sensed it and was obviously shaken, going so far as to call it "something sinister".

In contrast, Dooku had fallen to the Dark side a decade prior to AOTC in all that time none of the Jedi ever sensed it, not even his master Yoda, to whom he presumably had a bond.

In other words Yoda immediately senses and is disturbed by Maul's presence in the Force despite not even having met him, but doesn't even get a whiff of Dooku falling to the Dark side and growing in power despite having known him for decades.

That's because Maul is much stronger in the Force and in the Dark side.

To conclude:

Maul speaking about Dooku: " ... the Sith pretender Dooku..."
Dooku speaking about Maul: "... your powers will rival that of the great Sith Lord Darth Maul."

Sounds about right.

Originally posted by Ziggystardust
^ It's better than what I've seen from you as of late. Well done. Azronger.

Thank you.

Originally posted by ILS
Next up on "array every source possible in the most negative light against one character while worshipping the other"...

I'd be genuinely interested to hear what you have to say.