RotJ Sidious and Plagueis vs. Yoda and Knightfall Vader

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Stigma
Setting: Palpatine's throne room onboard Death Star II

Starting distance: 50 feet

Who wins?

Freedon Nadd
Azronger: Plagueis 'cause midi-chlorians.

semenwithjuice
Sidious beats yoda in a hard fight, plagueis shits on vader. or sidious beats vader before yoda beats plagueis and then yoda gets raped

Stigma
Knightfall Vader is supposed to be = RotS Sidious, right? If so, he can take Plagueis.

semenwithjuice
Originally posted by Stigma
Knightfall Vader is supposed to be = RotS Sidious, right? If so, he can take Plagueis.
no he isnt that's a retarded agenda just as stupid as many other agendas pushed on this forum. unfortunately this really has plagued (lol) sw debating because people are all about just wanking characters instead of wanting to know who wins a fight by discussing different aspects lol.

Rebel95
Originally posted by semenwithjuice
no he isnt that's a retarded agenda just as stupid as many other agendas pushed on this forum. unfortunately this really has plagued (lol) sw debating because people are all about just wanking characters instead of wanting to know who wins a fight by discussing different aspects lol.
Except it's actually supported by several quotes that he is. Including one from GL himself I believe.

The Ellimist
mmm

Azronger
Sheev solos

Naugrim
Sidious solos.

Kurk
This comes down to whether Sidious can avoid saber combat as that's his weak spot here. Plagueis should last a while against Yoda.

OR

Can Anakin defeat Plagueis before Yoda dies to a more powerful version of Sidious.

Again, Anakin's strength is saber skill while he brings nothing to the table force-skill wise.

AncientPower
Knightfall Vader destroys Plagueis as Yoda and Sheev 50/50.

darthbane77
Palpatine solos

relentless1
Originally posted by Kurk
This comes down to whether Sidious can avoid saber combat as that's his weak spot here. Plagueis should last a while against Yoda.

OR

Can Anakin defeat Plagueis before Yoda dies to a more powerful version of Sidious.

Again, Anakin's strength is saber skill while he brings nothing to the table force-skill wise.

how do you figure sabers is Sidious' weak spot? the guy manhandled Maul/Savage easily and killed 3 council members before they knew what happened. The only time hes legit been out matched was against Yoda and that was only because the environment favoured the little speed toad more; put them in an area where Sidious can move around and i guarantee the outcome of that fight is vastly different

Kurk
Originally posted by relentless1
how do you figure sabers is Sidious' weak spot? the guy manhandled Maul/Savage easily and killed 3 council members before they knew what happened. The only time hes legit been out matched was against Yoda and that was only because the environment favoured the little speed toad more; put them in an area where Sidious can move around and i guarantee the outcome of that fight is vastly different Because this is RotJ Sheev. I'm assuming he hasn't touched a saber in nearly two decades. His augmentation alone won't save him here against those as skilled as Anakin and Yoda.

Rockydonovang
plagueis is a massive power boost below tpm sids so he's gonna get rekt vs anakin or yoda. The question is how much more powerful is ROTJ sids than ROTS sids, imma wanna see arguments made for that.

Geistalt
Not powerful enough to make up for it.

Kurk
Originally posted by Rockydonovang
plagueis is a massive power boost below tpm sids so he's gonna get rekt vs anakin or yoda. The question is how much more powerful is ROTJ sids than ROTS sids, imma wanna see arguments made for that. Is that why he had to get him wasted and then fry him in his sleep rather than do it in a fair fight?

relentless1
Originally posted by Kurk
Because this is RotJ Sheev. I'm assuming he hasn't touched a saber in nearly two decades. His augmentation alone won't save him here against those as skilled as Anakin and Yoda.

Emperor Sidious is just as deadly with a lightsaber; see Lords of the Sith novel which is canon

Rockydonovang
Originally posted by Kurk
Is that why he had to get him wasted and then fry him in his sleep rather than do it in a fair fight?
That was before the power boost in question.

Kurk
Originally posted by relentless1
Emperor Sidious is just as deadly with a lightsaber; see Lords of the Sith novel which is canon That's still nearly two decades before RotJ

Freedon Nadd
Vader can't do anything here. He is out-matched.

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