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This is an all out battle (round 2) to determine the most powerful Telekinetic... The arena is the streets of New York and blood-lust is on. Only telekinesis is allowed in this fight... So who is the most powerful telekinetic now?


The Telekinetic combatants;

*Shaman Nate Grey
*Phoenix
*"God-like" Cable
*Justice
*Legion
*Hyperstorm
*Superman 1000000
*Supergirl (Matrix)
*Psi-Lord
*Marvel Girl 2 (with Mind Gem)
*Onslaught
*Psylocke

Ill go /w/ Nate

Phoenix by a landslide

Definately Phoenix. Sum-total of all psionic energy in the Marvel Universe.

GOd Like Cable

Hmmm in that case replace Phoenix with just Jean Grey (no PF access).

Shaman Nate

What about Onslaught

Originally posted by Stupid Rookie
What about Onslaught
Onslaught=Prof X in telepathy

Doesn't Onslaught also =Nate Grey in TK?

Originally posted by wiccan999
Doesn't Onslaught also =Nate Grey in TK?
The "final form" of Onslaught has absorbed Nate

Il take Onslaught
after he takes in
every psychic....lol yes even pheonix.

Originally posted by outavodka
Il take Onslaught
after he takes in
every psychic....lol yes even pheonix.
Nate is stronger in TK then Onslaught that is why he absorbed him.

Nate for the win !

If not Phoenix the main battle would be Shaman Nate vs. Full Potential Cable

Originally posted by Rewmac
If not Phoenix the main battle would be Shaman Nate vs. Full Potential Cable

In which Shaman would stomp Cable.

Hyperstorm would destroy everyone else - why is he here?


God-Cable , Shaman Nate? Are you serious - they would be flies to Hyperstorm.


Respect thread needed, perhaps?

Originally posted by Soljer
In which Shaman would stomp Cable.

Wouldn't say "stomp". He would overcome him. But Cable would give him a fight...

Originally posted by boriquaking55
Hyperstorm would destroy everyone else - why is he here?


God-Cable , Shaman Nate? Are you serious - they would be flies to Hyperstorm.


Respect thread needed, perhaps?

Assuming that Hyperstorm could use ALL his powers, then sure he would.

Telekinesis alone, though? I'd say that Cable's and Nate's feats stack up to his.

Originally posted by Soljer
Assuming that Hyperstorm could use ALL his powers, then sure he would.

Telekinesis alone, though? I'd say that Cable's and Nate's feats stack up to his.

They can telekenetically control all 4 fundamental forces in the known universe to a practically infinite degree and with impunity also? Since when was this?

Hyperstorm should just be taken out. His abilities were just ridiculous. In fact - I'd say he didn't possess telekinesis at all - his powers were far beyond the very concept in the first place.

I'll give this to Shaman Nate otherwise.

I thought his control over the fundamental forces was entirely separate from his powers of Telekinesis.

And besides, throw down some scans of Hyperstorms telekinesis (and SOLELY Telekinesis) feats. Let's go by feats - not hype.
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Originally posted by Soljer
I thought his control over the fundamental forces was entirely separate from his powers of Telekinesis.

And besides, throw down some scans of Hyperstorms telekinesis (and SOLELY Telekinesis) feats. Let's go by feats - not hype.
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Telekinesis is just a buzz word thats a small portion of Hyperstorm's power - controlling all 4 fundamental forces (Im not gonna bother explaining them) allows him to do way more than just simply moving objects.

Scans? We wanna talk scans, huh? How about God-Cable getting owned by SS and Shammy Nate getting trumped in the Astral plane by Thanos. Hyperstorm is far above that - he was nigh-unstoppable. I'll see if I can dig something up later though.

I stand by my statement - I dont even like Hyperstorm - but he would embarass everyone else in that last list barring the Phoenix force.

I have extensive knowledge of the fundamental forces; don't bother.

Still. I await your scans, my friend.

BUMP?

Originally posted by Soljer
I have extensive knowledge of the fundamental forces; don't bother.

Still. I await your scans, my friend.

I'll see if I can find any

i will go with nate, for 75 issue's or so he set the standard for tk

Here's the Marvel.com Bio for Hyperstorm

http://www.marvel.com/universe/Hyperstorm

Marvel Appendix
http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix3/hyperstormearth967.htm

Scans are hard to find for him since his appearances are really limited, but his powers are described as infinite - since they are based on hyperspace (which btw I found quite fascinating a concept for a mutant ability)

The bio states that he was unstoppable and the FF needed Galactus himself to end his reign of terror.

http://img108.imageshack.us/my.php?...alactus1zr1.jpg
http://img96.imageshack.us/my.php?i...alactus2rb5.jpg
http://img113.imageshack.us/my.php?...alactus3ht9.jpg
http://img96.imageshack.us/my.php?i...alactus4nn5.jpg
http://img300.imageshack.us/my.php?...alactus5cy6.jpg

So I take it the hierarchy is 1 Phoenix, 2 Hyperstorm, and 3 Nate Grey... Is this correct? Or am I mistaken?

nate for the win if phoenix is just jean grey

Nate gets spanked by momma jean. Nate's got raw power but jeannie's got experience on her side i.e. emma versus rachel.

Well then who is the strongest TK?

Originally posted by jffxex1980
Nate gets spanked by momma jean. Nate's got raw power but jeannie's got experience on her side i.e. emma versus rachel.



Nate hands Jean her ASS unless she is acting as an avatar of the Phoenix.

Otherwise, it's just sad how badly he rapes her.

Originally posted by Soljer


Nate hands Jean her ASS unless she is acting as an avatar of the Phoenix.

Otherwise, it's just sad how badly he rapes her.

If Nate isn't bleeding from the nose... it might be a decent fight...

but you know once his nose starts bleeding, he's tapping into his own lifeforce to beat the #### out of you.

Nate bleeding nose = F###ed up holocaust.

Jeans fubared.

Why isn't Strange in there?

Originally posted by long pig
Why isn't Strange in there?

Oh I'm sorry, Strange is now added to the telekinetic fray.

BA-BUMP

So who's the stronger telekinetic?

Psi-Lord.

What are Psi-Lords greatest telekinetic feats?

So whos the strongest Telekinetic peoples?

nate grey-talk about experience i have never seen a tk character use tk to alter dust particles to make 3d illusions before,and i think the way they made him push himself i think thats where it is determined,he will push himself further than anyone to get the job done,and i know its the writing but they did so much with nate's ability, pulling astral forms out of the astral plane-which gave onslaught the idea to do so,what about nates tk armor-he took on the hulk! defeating the great beast by altering their grip on the planet as it rotates call me a fanboy but i will go with nate

Whoa, thats awesome man... what about Hyperstorm since hes supposed to be an ultra powerful TK? and Rachel with the Mind Gem is nothing?

So once again Nate Grey is the most powerful TK? Is he the last man standing?