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Who takes this Bobby or Sue?

Bobby takes Sue (sounds like a 50's soung to boot)

Bobby, 10/10.

5/5 virtual tie

Originally posted by masterbruce
5/5 virtual tie

Originally posted by Soljer


Invisible woman turns invisible at start of battle and creates bubble encapsulating Iceman before he can turn into mist. She then could either launch that bubble into space where Iceman will die from vacuum or she could crush the bubble until there is no air inside.

Originally posted by masterbruce
Invisible woman turns invisible at start of battle and creates bubble encapsulating Iceman before he can turn into mist. She then could either launch that bubble into space where Iceman will die from vacuum or she could crush the bubble until there is no air inside.

Iceman lacks lungs to even NEED air, and last time I checked, ice survives just fine in a vacuum.

Try again.

What about pushing him though the sun until the atomic forces into the star destroy the oxygen in Bobby making him another element that he cannot control?


I'm improvising here in case no one noticed.

I think both kill each other.

Iceman, 10/10.

He could freeze in her in an ice block to subdue her, or, if he's feeling rather angry that die, simply freeze her blood flow.

Plus turning invisible wont work unless she can mask her heat as well. He can see temp. variations.

Originally posted by Bentley
What about pushing him though the sun until the atomic forces into the star destroy the oxygen in Bobby making him another element that he cannot control?


I'm improvising here in case no one noticed.
He doesn't control an Element, he controls energy flow.

Transmuting him won't help.

He sucks every Jeul of energy out of sues body.

Originally posted by King Kandy
He doesn't control an Element, he controls energy flow.

Transmuting him won't help.

He sucks every Jeul of energy out of sues body.

At his full potential, he conceivably controls energy flow. That is not 100% as of yet.

But regardless. Iceman sucks all the water out of Sue's body. Or moisture inverts her. Or pimpslaps her with an ice construct. Or BFR's her. Or flash-freezes her.

Sue can't do shit about it.

What's an invisible shield or invisibility going to do against a freeze? She gets frozen while she's invisible or with a shield up.

Originally posted by Soljer
At his full potential, he conceivably controls energy flow. That is not 100% as of yet.

But regardless. Iceman sucks all the water out of Sue's body. Or moisture inverts her. Or pimpslaps her with an ice construct. Or BFR's her. Or flash-freezes her.

Sue can't do shit about it.
He doesn't "Conceivably" control energy flow, he activly does so.

He can make anything cold, not just H2O.

Originally posted by King Kandy
He doesn't "Conceivably" control energy flow, he activly does so.

He can make anything cold, not just H2O.

I'm aware of the fact that Iceman can lower temperature on a molecular level. However, he still doesn't (yet) have utter mastery over energy manipulation. He doesn't have any feats to say otherwise.

Originally posted by Soljer
I'm aware of the fact that Iceman can lower temperature on a molecular level. However, he still doesn't (yet) have utter mastery over energy manipulation. He doesn't have any feats to say otherwise.
Yeah. But he has mastery enough.

Still, Sue cannot just kill Iceman because he can live without even being solid. Is there any proof that Bobby can lives in a non-H2O form? If not, transmutation should kill him.

What prove do we have that Bobby's power can affect Sue within her force field?

Originally posted by Bentley
Still, Sue cannot just kill Iceman because he can live without even being solid. Is there any proof that Bobby can lives in a non-H2O form? If not, transmutation should kill him. The Invisible Woman can't transmute matter.

IMO Iceman takes this 8-9/10....

Originally posted by HandOfFate
What prove do we have that Bobby's power can affect Sue within her force field?

None really but we have no proof that sue can create a heater on the inside of her shield because the temperature is still going to drop on the inside.

Originally posted by Galan007
IMO Iceman takes this 8-9/10....

10/10

Physical force is ALL IW can bring to bear, and Iceman is for all intents and purposes immune to physical harm.

Originally posted by Blair Wind
10/10

Physical force is ALL IW can bring to bear, and Iceman is for all intents and purposes immune to physical harm. I agree,

i left the 1-2/10 in her favor do to some plot device that is usually introduced in any given FF comic....

Originally posted by Galan007
I agree,

i left the 1-2/10 in her favor do to some plot device that is usually introduced in any given FF comic....

Plot devices don't exist on the forums, .

Originally posted by Soljer
Plot devices don't exist on the forums, . Please, thats how half the people that debate here formulate an oppinion on who wins...

Plus its my oppinion, nothing more

Iceshakes 10/10

Iceman will finish off Susan Storm with ease, 10/10 times, and turning invisible won't do the blonde girl any good!

Originally posted by The Weather God
the temperature is still going to drop on the inside.
That may not be the case, actually.
In the reverse case, many of the energy attacks she's shielded from should have super heated the air in any bubble she's made.
I think she's safe from heat and cold fluctuations.