Colossus versus White Queen (Diamond Form)

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masterbruce
Steel versus Diamond

who prevails?

Brian Oswald
The thing is that Colossus also has class 100 strength

xmarksthespot
She's used telepathy in diamond form a few times, but if we assume she can't then unless she changes to human form she's screwed.

marvelprince
No telepathy then Piotr wins. He's steel but he also has the super strength going for him. Emma gets a strength boost in diamond form but she's nowhere near Colossus' level

masterbruce
but diamond is harder than steel

colossus wouldn't be able to injure her but she can damage colossus

xmarksthespot
He isn't actually steel.

Brian Oswald
Originally posted by masterbruce
but diamond is harder than steel

colossus wouldn't be able to injure her but she can damage colossus No. Its not steel. Its organic metal of some sort. Emma hits him with the force of a normal woman, plus a little extra strenght but not much. Pete on the other hand has class 100 strength and an organic metal body. He punches her and she dies.

xmarksthespot
She's actually supposed to have something in the 25-75 ton strength range, but it's never really shown...

Grimm22
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
She's actually supposed to have something in the 25-75 ton strength range, but it's never really shown...

75 tons?!? What the f**k?

I would put Luke Cage over her anyday of the week

snoopdogg
According to the handbooks Emma has level 5(25-75 tons)strength and level 5 durability. Colossus has 6's in both.

Colossus wins.

marvelprince
Originally posted by masterbruce
but diamond is harder than steel

colossus wouldn't be able to injure her but she can damage colossus

Don't matter if its harder if she doesn't have the strength to use it. Imagine a toddler with a metal rod and a man with a stick. Even though the rod is harder I'd imagine the man will hit harder considering he has much more strength

The Pict
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
She's actually supposed to have something in the 25-75 ton strength range, but it's never really shown...

Bit of a gap there....

Brian Oswald
25-75....What the f**k? thats a big differance

xmarksthespot
If she is in the class 5 i.e. 25-75 she'd be around the low end. Blame Marvel for the ludicrously large range in each class.

Brian Oswald
ha, i get it. Still 25 tons is 1/4 of Pete. Not enough to put him down.

The Pict
5 is 50 to 75 surely gimme a sec.

snoopdogg
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
If she is in the class 5 i.e. 25-75 she'd be around the low end. Blame Marvel for the ludicrously large range in each class. Marvel used to have Superhuman Cl 10,25,50,75,90,100, & Incalcuable levels. When they went to the numbering system they watered it down.

Level 4 is Class 10 & 25
Level 5 is Class 50 & 75
Level 6 is Class 90 & 100
Level 7 is incalcuable.

The Pict
My bad, you're right.

5=25-75

snoopdogg
Check this out.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/thPowers-Abilities.jpg

The Pict
Originally posted by snoopdogg
Check this out.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/thPowers-Abilities.jpg

Is that new? I have one of the handbooks here with the ratings 1 to 7 in it.

snoopdogg
Originally posted by The Pict
Is that new? I have one of the handbooks here with the ratings 1 to 7 in it. No, it's one from the 90's. But they all are coherent if you understand them.

OneDumbG0
Emma has been shattered before in her pure diamond form. I definitely think that Colossus could shatter her. And about the access to telepathic skills, although some portrayals showed her able to use tp while in diamond form, it's been concluded that she cannot in recent storylines. Morrison's initial depictions showed her unable to access mental powers and Marvel decided to stick with that. As to her strength, I wouldn't be surprised if she could lift up 40 tons. Definitely 20 tons at the least.

Grimm22
Emma's dimand form is just that, diamond

Its not organic hide like Colossus's or Thing's, its just Diamond

Pitor throws the ***** to the moon yes

ExodusCloak
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
She's actually supposed to have something in the 25-75 ton strength range, but it's never really shown...

I found one incident...she never really goes H2H in full on Diamond...

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/2573/blz06yv5.th.jpg
http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/2033/blz07bh5.th.jpg

Originally posted by Grimm22
Emma's dimand form is just that, diamond

Its not organic hide like Colossus's or Thing's, its just Diamond

Pitor throws the ***** to the moon yes

Perfectly smooth translucent organic diamond skin/form...I'd say she'd be able to scrape Things hide with her Diamond nails...stick out tongue

But yeah Colossus should take this....but shatter her? Doubtful when it took a special diamond bullet aimed at the flaw in her form. Danger couldn't even shatter her...she resorted to Blackmail...and she knows everything about the X-Men..plus she's a class above Colossus.

Other then that Telepathy for some reason seems so much more useful then her Diamond Form. Which is just there for effect.

Funny enough the Cuckoos are able to use Diamond Form and Telepathy similtaneously(Warsong)...which most probably amplifies their telepathy.

Because of this:


http://img282.imageshack.us/img282/2968/xunlimitedv104204rougheey4.th.jpg


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