Kingpin vs. Nightwing ( H2H)

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Faceman
This fight takes place in a boxing ring. No weapons hand 2 hand , anything goes....

DarkCrawler
Nightwing.

Dinalfos
Kingpin wins.

Evil_Ash
Kingpin wins.

I recall Spider-Man having a heck of a trouble fighting Kingpin.

Scoobless
KP FTW.

Innerhype
Nightwing wins this.

Blockbuster is basically Kingpin but with actual superhuman strength and the last time NW and him tangled, Blockbuster got his tail whipped very badly.

Scoobless
Isn't Blockbuster an idiot?

Evil_Ash
Blockbuster isn't a master of armed and unarmed combat, particularly sumo, jujitsu, and hapkido, like Kingpin.

And he doesn't have a walking stick that can fire laser beams big grin

King_Mungi
There have been multiple incarnations of Blockbuster, the original used to battle against the JLA and seemed to be equal to classic Grundy. Nightwing's Blockbuster who was killed definetly seemed vastly weaker than the other two versions. Still a feat, but you have to keep it in perspective. Lex made a Blockbuster who basically was a copy of the Hulk but was defeated by Infiniy Inc.

jrodslam
Kingpin.

Wally West
Nightwing.

Beta Ray Howard
Kingpin for the majority, if not all.

Evil_Ash
Blockbuster was also shot dead by Tarantula (who!?).

Didn't Kingpin once take on a bullet and still standing?

jrodslam
Originally posted by Evil_Ash
Didn't Kingpin once take on a bullet and still standing?

What many dont know is that Kingpin wears armor under his suit. Or i think the suit itself IS made out of armor. Even without, he takes hits like a pro.

Wally West
Blockbuster took several bullets to the chest and was still standing in one of the early Nightwing comics.

Tarantula killed him with a point blank shot to the head.

Wally West
A few examples of Blockbuster's durabilty:

30k volts is like an itch to him
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/Ixion83/Nightwing8i.jpg

Not only survives multiple gunshots at point blank to the chest but breaks the neck of the man who shot him and remains standing
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/Ixion83/Nightwing11i.jpg

Survives and awalks away from his entire mansion falling down on top of him
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/Ixion83/Nightwing15i.jpg

He is no lightweight and could give Kingpin a good fight, he brought down a warehouse with his barehands in under 10 seconds because he was annoyed.

Soljer
Nightwing. With ease. This is a forum fight, not a comic book one. There are no writers to save the Kingpin here.

Evil_Ash
Originally posted by Soljer
Nightwing. With ease. This is a forum fight, not a comic book one. There are no writers to save the Kingpin here.

huh What?

jrodslam
Originally posted by Wally West
A few examples of Blockbuster's durabilty:

30k volts is like an itch to him
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/Ixion83/Nightwing8i.jpg

Not only survives multiple gunshots at point blank to the chest but breaks the neck of the man who shot him and remains standing
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/Ixion83/Nightwing11i.jpg

Survives and awalks away from his entire mansion falling down on top of him
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/Ixion83/Nightwing15i.jpg

He is no lightweight and could give Kingpin a good fight, he brought down a warehouse with his barehands in under 10 seconds because he was annoyed.

Nice. So how did Nightwing manage to beat him? Or was his power/strength reduced?

Either way, im not saying its gonna be a walk in the park for Kingpin, but i do believe hes much capable of beating Nightwing.

Wally West
Originally posted by jrodslam
Nice. So how did Nightwing manage to beat him? Or was his power/strength reduced?

Either way, im not saying its gonna be a walk in the park for Kingpin, but i do believe hes much capable of beating Nightwing.
He didn't KO him but beat him to the ground a bloody mess, thats when Tarantula arrived and shot Blockbuster in the head:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/Ixion83/Nightwing93i.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/Ixion83/Nightwing93ii.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/Ixion83/Nightwing93iii.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/Ixion83/Nightwing93iv.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/Ixion83/Nightwing93v.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/Ixion83/Nightwing93vi.jpg

jrodslam
Originally posted by Wally West
He didn't KO him but beat him to the ground a bloody mess, thats when Tarantula arrived and shot Blockbuster in the head:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/Ixion83/Nightwing93i.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/Ixion83/Nightwing93ii.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/Ixion83/Nightwing93iii.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/Ixion83/Nightwing93iv.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/Ixion83/Nightwing93v.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/Ixion83/Nightwing93vi.jpg

Now what incarnation is this? King_Mungi mentioned different versions. Im not familiar with Blockbuster so dont think im trying to take anything away from Nightwing.

DarkCrawler
Nightwing is faster, WAY more agile, strong enough to hurt him and as skilled. He will be able to maneuver his way to beat Kingpin down IMO. 6/10 at least. If we go by Kingpin's classic showings only (the ones where he fights Spider-Man), Kingpin probably gets the majority, but the grand total of his showings give Nightwing the majority. Like shown before, he is capable of hurting the likes of Blockbuster and Wildebeest...he can hurt Kingpin. If he goes all out, Kingpin will have hard time even laying a hand on him, IMO.
http://img473.imageshack.us/my.php?image=year1999dodgesbulletsfromentir.gif
http://img354.imageshack.us/my.php?image=year2000dodgessylphmanytimes0r.gif

Wally West
Originally posted by jrodslam
Now what incarnation is this? King_Mungi mentioned different versions. Im not familiar with Blockbuster so dont think im trying to take anything away from Nightwing. The one who appeared in Nightwing's comics was the second one, he didn't battle the Justice League or have Grundy level strength, but he did have some degree of superstrength (like I said before, he brought a warehouse down with his barehands in 10 seconds) and vast durability. He couldn't hurt someone like Superman though. I think he was intended to be to Nightwing what Kingpin was to DareDevil.

I think theres another Blockbuster around now but I don't know much about him, Nightwing hasn't fought him.

When he was Robin he did have a brief encounter with the first Blockbuster:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/Ixion83/robin.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/Ixion83/robin2.jpg

big grin

Alfheim
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Nightwing is faster, WAY more agile, strong enough to hurt him and as skilled. He will be able to maneuver his way to beat Kingpin down IMO. 6/10 at least. If we go by Kingpin's classic showings only (the ones where he fights Spider-Man), Kingpin probably gets the majority, but the grand total of his showings give Nightwing the majority. Like shown before, he is capable of hurting the likes of Blockbuster and Wildebeest...he can hurt Kingpin. If he goes all out, Kingpin will have hard time even laying a hand on him, IMO.
http://img473.imageshack.us/my.php?image=year1999dodgesbulletsfromentir.gif
http://img354.imageshack.us/my.php?image=year2000dodgessylphmanytimes0r.gif

Damn that nightwing is fast. Oh yeah I think the Kingpin has tagged Spiderman.

NiņoAraņa
Originally posted by Wally West
He didn't KO him but beat him to the ground a bloody mess, thats when Tarantula arrived and shot Blockbuster in the head:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/Ixion83/Nightwing93i.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/Ixion83/Nightwing93ii.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/Ixion83/Nightwing93iii.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/Ixion83/Nightwing93iv.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/Ixion83/Nightwing93v.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/Ixion83/Nightwing93vi.jpg i'd still give this to KP, in those scans
1) Blockbuster wasn't even fighting back
2) He was talking through the whole thing

i say that KP take the maj. at least 6/10

jrodslam
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Nightwing is faster, WAY more agile, strong enough to hurt him and as skilled. He will be able to maneuver his way to beat Kingpin down IMO. 6/10 at least. If we go by Kingpin's classic showings only (the ones where he fights Spider-Man), Kingpin probably gets the majority, but the grand total of his showings give Nightwing the majority. Like shown before, he is capable of hurting the likes of Blockbuster and Wildebeest...he can hurt Kingpin. If he goes all out, Kingpin will have hard time even laying a hand on him, IMO.
http://img473.imageshack.us/my.php?image=year1999dodgesbulletsfromentir.gif
http://img354.imageshack.us/my.php?image=year2000dodgessylphmanytimes0r.gif

Im not gonna argue Kinpin being as fast or as agile, BUT i will say that Kingpin will be able to block/dodge some of Nightwings hits. Many underestimate Kingpins skills and at least you give him credit to at least mentioned he may be as skilled as NW. Im not saying he cant hurt KP. Not at all. However going all out, KP will have trouble indeed hitting hum, but once he does and gets a grab on NW, its pretty much a wrap imo. Cant post scans of KP in action cause im at work right now.sad

Alfheim

Wally West

DarkCrawler
That is far from the only fight between the two, though. Here is all-out BB against Nightwing in small space.
http://img525.imageshack.us/my.php?image=year1997fightsblockbuster17ja.gif
http://img504.imageshack.us/my.php?image=year1997fightsblockbuster21kj.gif
http://img504.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fightsblockbuster37rq.gif
http://img525.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fightsblockbuster47iy.gif
http://img525.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fightsblockbuster59en.gif

Another fight.
http://img456.imageshack.us/my.php?image=year1997fightsbbagain12tc.gif
http://img456.imageshack.us/my.php?image=year1997fightsbbagain22gt.gif
http://img456.imageshack.us/my.php?image=year1997fightsbbagain36aa.gif
http://img485.imageshack.us/my.php?image=year1997fightsbbagain43hc.gif
http://img485.imageshack.us/my.php?image=year1997fightsbbagain59lr.gif

Blockbuster is stronger and more durable then Kingpin IMO, but Kingpin is faster and more skilled.

Alfheim
Originally posted by DarkCrawler

Blockbuster is stronger and more durable then Kingpin IMO, but Kingpin is faster and more skilled.

Yes that would be an accurate summary.

Evil_Ash
Can we have any Kingpin feats?

jrodslam
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
That is far from the only fight between the two, though. Here is all-out BB against Nightwing in small space.
http://img525.imageshack.us/my.php?image=year1997fightsblockbuster17ja.gif
http://img504.imageshack.us/my.php?image=year1997fightsblockbuster21kj.gif
http://img504.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fightsblockbuster37rq.gif
http://img525.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fightsblockbuster47iy.gif
http://img525.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fightsblockbuster59en.gif

Another fight.
http://img456.imageshack.us/my.php?image=year1997fightsbbagain12tc.gif
http://img456.imageshack.us/my.php?image=year1997fightsbbagain22gt.gif
http://img456.imageshack.us/my.php?image=year1997fightsbbagain36aa.gif
http://img485.imageshack.us/my.php?image=year1997fightsbbagain43hc.gif
http://img485.imageshack.us/my.php?image=year1997fightsbbagain59lr.gif

Blockbuster is stronger and more durable then Kingpin IMO, but Kingpin is faster and more skilled.

Nice DC. Something i must say though. Why is it that to me, BB cant seem to take a damn hit? Its mentioned of hit taking bullets, but he cant take a few hits? Once again, im not trying to take anything from NW, because BB does seem really strong. His asbility to take a hit just seems a bit questionable.

jrodslam
Originally posted by Evil_Ash
Can we have any Kingpin feats?

Ive been doing alot of hours at work this holiday, but when i get home ill try to come up with something. Im sure DC or someone can come up with something.

I do remember an instance where DD tried to kick KP and almost(or did cant remember) spained his ankle and bounced off KP.

Another instance was KP killing someone by crushing their head.

Moving a vault door with one hand that DD could barely do with 2.

Had DD chase him many blocks through the city.(bit of a speed/agility feat for KP)

Beat 8 martial arts experts from over the world who had weapons in 18(i think) seconds. Afterwards he asked his assistant to double the number and give them weapons as well.

There are others, but im to lazt to post them all, lol. Hurting my brain.

Edit: He also beat Cap in h2h and stalemated Batman. Beat DD a couple of times also as well as Spiderman.

Alfheim
Originally posted by Evil_Ash
Can we have any Kingpin feats?

There is no Kingpin repect thread but I know he has beaten the Red Skull in H2H. The Red Skull at the time had the body of Steve Rogers without the serum. So in other words The Red Skull had peak human stats and he was a martial arts expert.

I have also seen The Kingpin beat about 6 karate experts easily....well it was a long time ago. I think its the incident that jrodslam is explaining.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Nice DC. Something i must say though. Why is it that to me, BB cant seem to take a damn hit? Its mentioned of hit taking bullets, but he cant take a few hits? Once again, im not trying to take anything from NW, because BB does seem really strong. His asbility to take a hit just seems a bit questionable.

I guess this is the same reason why people like Cap can hurt superhumans. They are so good that they can still use a superhumans weak points.

NiņoAraņa
Originally posted by Wally West
He did hit Nightwing causing him to crash through a wall.... he swung at him ONCE, he was more preoccupied with getting in his head, not hitting him...

Wally West
Kingpin v DareDevil:

http://img370.imageshack.us/my.php?image=daredevilv2050105rv.jpg
http://img370.imageshack.us/my.php?image=daredevilv2050113xq.jpg
http://img481.imageshack.us/my.php?image=daredevilv2050128uh.jpg
http://img518.imageshack.us/my.php?image=daredevilv2050132ri.jpg
http://img493.imageshack.us/my.php?image=daredevilv2050143ki.jpg
http://img493.imageshack.us/my.php?image=daredevilv2050151ja.jpg
http://img493.imageshack.us/my.php?image=daredevilv2050161up.jpg
http://img371.imageshack.us/my.php?image=daredevilv2050170kk.jpg
http://img371.imageshack.us/my.php?image=daredevilv2050189ib.jpg
http://img371.imageshack.us/my.php?image=daredevilv2050191hf.jpg
http://img472.imageshack.us/my.php?image=daredevilv2050200pu.jpg
http://img381.imageshack.us/my.php?image=daredevilv2050214fy.jpg
http://img381.imageshack.us/my.php?image=daredevilv2050224qn.jpg

Alfheim
Originally posted by Wally West
Kingpin v DareDevil:

http://img370.imageshack.us/my.php?image=daredevilv2050105rv.jpg
http://img370.imageshack.us/my.php?image=daredevilv2050113xq.jpg
http://img481.imageshack.us/my.php?image=daredevilv2050128uh.jpg
http://img518.imageshack.us/my.php?image=daredevilv2050132ri.jpg
http://img493.imageshack.us/my.php?image=daredevilv2050143ki.jpg
http://img493.imageshack.us/my.php?image=daredevilv2050151ja.jpg
http://img493.imageshack.us/my.php?image=daredevilv2050161up.jpg
http://img371.imageshack.us/my.php?image=daredevilv2050170kk.jpg
http://img371.imageshack.us/my.php?image=daredevilv2050189ib.jpg
http://img371.imageshack.us/my.php?image=daredevilv2050191hf.jpg
http://img472.imageshack.us/my.php?image=daredevilv2050200pu.jpg
http://img381.imageshack.us/my.php?image=daredevilv2050214fy.jpg
http://img381.imageshack.us/my.php?image=daredevilv2050224qn.jpg

Im sure The Kingpin should have been bigger....well at any rate he is good enough to give Nightwing a good fight but I think its going to be similar to his fight with DD. Nightwing is damn fast like DD, KP will get some hits in but eventually will lose. Nightwing 6/10.

Wally West

NiņoAraņa
Originally posted by Wally West
Kingpin v DareDevil:

http://img370.imageshack.us/my.php?image=daredevilv2050105rv.jpg
http://img370.imageshack.us/my.php?image=daredevilv2050113xq.jpg
http://img481.imageshack.us/my.php?image=daredevilv2050128uh.jpg
http://img518.imageshack.us/my.php?image=daredevilv2050132ri.jpg
http://img493.imageshack.us/my.php?image=daredevilv2050143ki.jpg
http://img493.imageshack.us/my.php?image=daredevilv2050151ja.jpg
http://img493.imageshack.us/my.php?image=daredevilv2050161up.jpg
http://img371.imageshack.us/my.php?image=daredevilv2050170kk.jpg
http://img371.imageshack.us/my.php?image=daredevilv2050189ib.jpg
http://img371.imageshack.us/my.php?image=daredevilv2050191hf.jpg
http://img472.imageshack.us/my.php?image=daredevilv2050200pu.jpg
http://img381.imageshack.us/my.php?image=daredevilv2050214fy.jpg
http://img381.imageshack.us/my.php?image=daredevilv2050224qn.jpg

Diffrence between that fight and NWs is rader sense, NW is gonna get hit a lot more, not a whooole lot, but he's gonna get hit more, and it's gonna put him down

Evil_Ash
Originally posted by Wally West
Kingpin v DareDevil:

http://img370.imageshack.us/my.php?image=daredevilv2050105rv.jpg
http://img370.imageshack.us/my.php?image=daredevilv2050113xq.jpg
http://img481.imageshack.us/my.php?image=daredevilv2050128uh.jpg
http://img518.imageshack.us/my.php?image=daredevilv2050132ri.jpg
http://img493.imageshack.us/my.php?image=daredevilv2050143ki.jpg
http://img493.imageshack.us/my.php?image=daredevilv2050151ja.jpg
http://img493.imageshack.us/my.php?image=daredevilv2050161up.jpg
http://img371.imageshack.us/my.php?image=daredevilv2050170kk.jpg
http://img371.imageshack.us/my.php?image=daredevilv2050189ib.jpg
http://img371.imageshack.us/my.php?image=daredevilv2050191hf.jpg
http://img472.imageshack.us/my.php?image=daredevilv2050200pu.jpg
http://img381.imageshack.us/my.php?image=daredevilv2050214fy.jpg
http://img381.imageshack.us/my.php?image=daredevilv2050224qn.jpg

That's Vic Mackey. Not Kingpin wink

Wally West
Originally posted by Evil_Ash
That's Vic Mackey. Not Kingpin wink
If you say so, I didn't upload those scans or anything just came across them and were the only fights involving "Kingpin" I could find stick out tongue Cool fight regardless.

DarkCrawler
Originally posted by jrodslam
Nice DC. Something i must say though. Why is it that to me, BB cant seem to take a damn hit? Its mentioned of hit taking bullets, but he cant take a few hits? Once again, im not trying to take anything from NW, because BB does seem really strong. His asbility to take a hit just seems a bit questionable.

Well, it says there that Nightwing is only able to stagger him because the surprise and when he knocks his face to pavement, it is him using the whole force of his body while still in motion. He hits him so hard that the concrete floor breaks, so I aren't surprised that Blockbuster is bleeding. On the other fight, he hits him beforehand in the face with that thing he shoots at him, and he still takes it.

But Nightwing is quite strong anyway for being so agile character, I am not surprised that he can hurt him. I mean, he can handle an entire fridge like nothing:
http://img518.imageshack.us/my.php?image=year1996throwsafridgetoenemies.gif

Lift a huge bed above his shoulders with ease.
http://img458.imageshack.us/my.php?image=year1997dodgesbulletsandthrows.gif

Able to reel superstrong Man-Bat in:
http://img465.imageshack.us/my.php?image=year1998reelsmanbatin5gq.gif

Push hospital bed with huge force.
http://img364.imageshack.us/my.php?image=year1998pusheshospitalbed1bt.gif

Throw around superstrong KGBeast easily.
http://img465.imageshack.us/my.php?image=year1999throwskgbeastlikenothi.gif

Hit a guy's face through brick wall with ease
http://img456.imageshack.us/my.php?image=year2000hitstorquesfacethrough.gif

DarkCrawler

Alfheim
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Well, it says there that Nightwing is only able to stagger him because the surprise and when he knocks his face to pavement, it is him using the whole force of his body while still in motion. He hits him so hard that the concrete floor breaks, so I aren't surprised that Blockbuster is bleeding. On the other fight, he hits him beforehand in the face with that thing he shoots at him, and he still takes it.

But Nightwing is quite strong anyway for being so agile character, I am not surprised that he can hurt him. I mean, he can handle an entire fridge like nothing:
http://img518.imageshack.us/my.php?image=year1996throwsafridgetoenemies.gif

Lift a huge bed above his shoulders with ease.
http://img458.imageshack.us/my.php?image=year1997dodgesbulletsandthrows.gif

Able to reel superstrong Man-Bat in:
http://img465.imageshack.us/my.php?image=year1998reelsmanbatin5gq.gif

Push hospital bed with huge force.
http://img364.imageshack.us/my.php?image=year1998pusheshospitalbed1bt.gif

Throw around superstrong KGBeast easily.
http://img465.imageshack.us/my.php?image=year1999throwskgbeastlikenothi.gif

Hit a guy's face through brick wall with ease
http://img456.imageshack.us/my.php?image=year2000hitstorquesfacethrough.gif

Wello bvously hes really strong but not superhuman, combine that with martial arts expertise then he can hurt superhumans. BB may have superhuman strength but he aint the Hulk.

NiņoAraņa
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
A lot more? Doubt it. Nightwing dodges gunfire from SWAT team while not even looking at the direction he is shot from. sorry typo, i meant to put more, not alot more. notice the two lots lol

DarkCrawler
Originally posted by Alfheim
Wello bvously hes really strong but not superhuman, combine that with martial arts expertise then he can hurt superhumans. BB may have superhuman strength but he aint the Hulk. Wasn't trying to claim that he was superhuman. huh

Alfheim
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Wasn't trying to claim that he was superhuman. huh

Yeah I know. I was offering an explanation of why he can hurt Blockbuster. BB maybe superhuman but he is probably like Killer Croc at most 5 tons.

jrodslam
More DD vs KP

http://img463.imageshack.us/img463/7433/daredevil17115jp8.th.jpghttp://img63.imageshack.us/img63/7840/daredevil17116pi2.th.jpg

http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/457/daredevil22817vp5.th.jpghttp://img80.imageshack.us/img80/6360/daredevil22819ct5.th.jpg

http://img290.imageshack.us/img290/6022/daredevil379flyingblinddd0.th.jpg

KP training

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/7537/daredevil17007dj9.th.jpghttp://img84.imageshack.us/img84/7623/daredevil17008tc9.th.jpg

Accel
Yeah, Kingpin's a beast. Still, I'm leaning towards Nightwing here ftw.

tkitna
I think Daredevil can take Nightwing and Kingpin has taken Daredevil so its pretty easy for me.

Kingpin FTW.

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