Midnighter vs Taskmaster

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Fanboy
Midnighter

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midnighter

Taskmaster

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taskmaster

Beta Ray Howard
Midnighter

DigiMark007
MN'er would be able to see that TM can copy moves, and would plan accordingly. If he wasn't smart enough to make it a quick fight, TM might have a chance. But MN'er would make it quick.

Scoobless
He wouldn't see that actually, he can only see what enhancements a person has, Taskmaster is all natural.... plus TM has shown to be faster than MN when he really gets going.

Tough fight but I'll go with TM.

DigiMark007
Ah, fair enough...I didn't know TM was simply natural ability.

But how is essentially human stats capable of being faster than MN'er, regardless of the skill level?

guy222
Originally posted by Fanboy
Midnighter

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midnighter

Taskmaster

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taskmaster

mid ftw smokin'

Soljer
Originally posted by DigiMark007
Ah, fair enough...I didn't know TM was simply natural ability.

But how is essentially human stats capable of being faster than MN'er, regardless of the skill level?

He's not only been able to move fast enough to catch bullets....

Taskmaster was able to move fast enough to SPEEDBLITZ someone who was capable of catching bullets.

erm.

He SHOULD be peak human, or twice peak human speed at best, but the feats seems to project it as otherwise.

DigiMark007
Inevitable writer variance, I guess. Seems a bit suspect though, like he'll always be just fast enough/slow enough for whover the writer wants him to beat or lose to.

...probably would make this a tough fight to figure out fully, because MN'er is obviously at least peak human as well, and probably a bit better.

Weyoun
Originally posted by Soljer
He's not only been able to move fast enough to catch bullets....

Taskmaster was able to move fast enough to SPEEDBLITZ someone who was capable of catching bullets.

erm.

He SHOULD be peak human, or twice peak human speed at best, but the feats seems to project it as otherwise.

He got beaten up by Moonknight. Moonknight is no Midnighter.

norrinradd43
I would have to go with Taskmaster...Bullseye and Hawkeye's accuracy, Caps fighting style, Swordsman's fencing...all pretty kick ass natural abilities

Weyoun
Taskmaster was beaten up by Moonknight recently. Midnighter takes this.

Scoobless
Originally posted by DigiMark007
But how is essentially human stats capable of being faster than MN'er, regardless of the skill level?

It's a trick he learned in his limited series:

http://img362.imageshack.us/img362/9568/marvelcomicstaskmaster0dx3.th.jpg http://img362.imageshack.us/img362/4149/marvelcomicstaskmaster0gz3.th.jpg http://img362.imageshack.us/img362/9733/marvelcomicstaskmaster0gg8.th.jpg http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/1264/marvelcomicstaskmaster0jn5.th.jpg

He had been shot a few pages before that which is why he's thinking about blood loss/exhaustion. Before he could do that he was good enough to go toe to toe with Cap.

Weyoun
Originally posted by Scoobless
It's a trick he learned in his limited series:

http://img362.imageshack.us/img362/9568/marvelcomicstaskmaster0dx3.th.jpg http://img362.imageshack.us/img362/4149/marvelcomicstaskmaster0gz3.th.jpg http://img362.imageshack.us/img362/9733/marvelcomicstaskmaster0gg8.th.jpg http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/1264/marvelcomicstaskmaster0jn5.th.jpg

He had been shot a few pages before that which is why he's thinking about blood loss/exhaustion. Before he could do that he was good enough to go toe to toe with Cap.

And yet an injured Moonknight beat him up.

norrinradd43
Originally posted by Weyoun
And yet an injured Moonknight beat him up. only after he damn near crashed a plane into him

Weyoun
Midnighter has fight precog he will have seen a hundred ways to win before the fight has started.

Precog is greater than photographic reflexes.

srankmissingnin
As far as I'm concerned Moonknight Retro-fitted Taskmaster and Agency X Udon Taskmaster are two different people... and Midnighter better hope he is fighting that pussy in the buccaneer boots.

Daredevil1
Wasn't there a fight with a martial artist defeating Mid since Mid didn't know what he was going to do, since he was on the defence?

Anyone remember the issue number?

Scoobless
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
As far as I'm concerned Moonknight Retro-fitted Taskmaster and Agency X Udon Taskmaster are two different people... and Midnighter better hope he is fighting that pussy in the buccaneer boots.

Ditto.

Originally posted by Weyoun
Midnighter has fight precog he will have seen a hundred ways to win before the fight has started.

Precog is greater than photographic reflexes.

It is, but MN doesn't have pre-cog ... he just computes the most likely event like a computer would.

juggernaut66666
Originally posted by Scoobless
It's a trick he learned in his limited series:

http://img362.imageshack.us/img362/9568/marvelcomicstaskmaster0dx3.th.jpg http://img362.imageshack.us/img362/4149/marvelcomicstaskmaster0gz3.th.jpg http://img362.imageshack.us/img362/9733/marvelcomicstaskmaster0gg8.th.jpg http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/1264/marvelcomicstaskmaster0jn5.th.jpg

He had been shot a few pages before that which is why he's thinking about blood loss/exhaustion. Before he could do that he was good enough to go toe to toe with Cap.
Yeah but he was moving at such speed that his bones could have been broken If he had mede any bad move.So he couldn't keep that speed up for to long.

Beta Ray Howard
Originally posted by Scoobless
He wouldn't see that actually, he can only see what enhancements a person has, Taskmaster is all natural.... plus TM has shown to be faster than MN when he really gets going.

Tough fight but I'll go with TM.

I disagree. Midnighter seemed to be quicker than most superhumans when he was fighting at his best. Remember when that person from the Gamorra army that he killed in seemingly an instant?

srankmissingnin
Originally posted by Beta Ray Howard
I disagree. Midnighter seemed to be quicker than most superhumans when he was fighting at his best. Remember when that person from the Gamorra army that he killed in seemingly an instant?

Those guys never really showed any impressive grounded speed feats though. As is the most impressive speed feat Moonknighter has is catching arrows which he has done several times.

EDIT: lol I called Midnighter "Moonknighter"

Scoobless
Originally posted by juggernaut66666
Yeah but he was moving at such speed that his bones could have been broken If he had mede any bad move.So he couldn't keep that speed up for to long.

That was just speculation .... he was worried about it but it never actually happened.

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