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There's no prep for either side. Who wins?

Originally posted by batdude123
There's no prep for either side. Who wins?

ff ftw

Current Apoc would lose due to excessive jobbing, but if he doesn't job, he wins. Classic Apoc rapes the F4.

Originally posted by batdude123
There's no prep for either side. Who wins?

Well without prep I can't see how FF can do a whole lot of damage to a giant super strong guy who can absorb energy

APOC

FF calls there homeboy galactus and he takes down apoc easy

it really depends on where the fight is. apocalypse has the power to take down the ff if its in an enclosed space, or open field with nothing in sight. but reed is really the only factor that makes me think twice. if he can get his hands on practically any kind of tech hed be a danger. give him a video remote and an electric razor and he will drive away the celestials. apocalypse is a genius, and hes good with tech, but he hasnt shown himself to be anywhere near as resourcful as reed.

apocalypse written well would be an almost unstoppable force, but hes never written well, and despite all his planning, all his celestial tech, and all his powers he goes down hard so some mutants with mosly average power levels. physically, hes stronger than the thing, and his energy attacks should take on reed and johnny. hed probably overwhelm sues forcefields with some crazy jackhammer/piledriver type arms. so if reed can devise something, or utilise tech, id probably say its 5/10, if its just a straight fight, apoc wins 8-9/10.

Ahem. Note that I said "Classic Apoc" would dominate. That is Apoc when he was written well, and doing things like beating the HE. That Apoc would win 10/10. Current Apoc would win 6-7/10. And that's with jobbing.

DAMN RIGHT! APOC

I just wanted to say that we were THIS close of having an actual Apoc vs. FF.

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/5008/apocvsffjn9.png

OMG, that is weak... I need to see the rest of those scans! Where was Apoc going?

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
OMG, that is weak... I need to see the rest of those scans! Where was Apoc going?

Probably running away in fear..... fear that they're going to throw a table at him.

Apocalypse loses. Because it's the only thing he knows how to do properly.

yawn Same old Batdude hating on Apoc, and Xmarks, you're high if you think Classic Apoc wouldn't win this outright. smartass

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Apocalypse loses. Because it's the only thing he knows how to do properly.

losing tell that to all the inhumans he insalved. meaning he beat them meaning he didn't lose meaning he won. thank you and good night, good afternoon and good evening

Apocalyspe...as usual....loses.

trickster:

wow man, I gotta say, for a "fanboy" (im not using it negatively, I'd call myself a Man-Thing fanboy) you have awesome opinions

I'm with you, classic apoc should mop the floor with them, I don't know about current though. He does job like a bad mother.

If the X-Men can do it............. The F4 could do the same.


F4 10/10

can anyone on the F4 counter a TK attack?

Originally posted by Priest
can anyone on the F4 counter a TK attack?

sue, reed

Originally posted by guy222
sue, reed
hmmm how?

Originally posted by inamilist
trickster:

wow man, I gotta say, for a "fanboy" (im not using it negatively, I'd call myself a Man-Thing fanboy) you have awesome opinions

I'm with you, classic apoc should mop the floor with them, I don't know about current though. He does job like a bad mother.

Thanks dude. DB_renji clued me in that I should just give up on current Apoc and use Classic for my arguements that Apoc is uber, at least until someone with half a brain makes him stop jobbing to the x-men. Yeah, I'm abit of an Apoc fanboy, but at least I don't go around saying he can beat Galactus or Zeus. It's one thing to maybe say he could beat Surfer with prep, it's another to claim he's skyfather and up.



Reed would probably built some kinda anti-psi weapon or armor, but that's with prep, so discount it. And Onslaught proved that Sue's fields don't stop TP.

Originally posted by Priest
hmmm how?

don't get me wrong, i dislike ff

but if sue can 'defeat' a celestial btw that to me was full of

she can beat apoc

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Thanks dude. DB_renji clued me in that I should just give up on current Apoc and use Classic for my arguements that Apoc is uber, at least until someone with half a brain makes him stop jobbing to the x-men. Yeah, I'm abit of an Apoc fanboy, but at least I don't go around saying he can beat Galactus or Zeus. It's one thing to maybe say he could beat Surfer with prep, it's another to claim he's skyfather and up.



Reed would probably built some kinda anti-psi weapon or armor, but that's with prep, so discount it. And Onslaught proved that Sue's fields don't stop TP.

sue couldn't defeat the brute from counter earth

go manning

You and I both know Sue's beating a Celestial was wanking her character and enormous PIS. And go Brady.

Didn't Sue already whoop Apocalypse in the Onslaught saga? Or do I recall it incorrectly?

What stops Sue from bursting Apoc's head from inside out?

Speed, forcefields, Apoc's energy absorbtion, TK, TP, energy blasts molecular body control......., need I go on? And all Sue did was stop him from getting to Franklin, at which point Apoc was about to kill her, until Onslaught booted both of them out of the dimension.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
yawn Same old Batdude hating on Apoc, and Xmarks, you're high if you think Classic Apoc wouldn't win this outright. smartass Im high and Classic Apoc still wins.

non jobbing apoc would win.

I could go with dat