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ultron has his adamantium body and no throwing in the sun.

or throwing anywhere out of space

Originally posted by carver9
ultron has his adamantium body and no throwing in the sun.

Ultron

Couldnt Superman just use his heat vision to increase the temp of Ultron so much so his insides melted while the admantium shell stayed intact?

superman

Originally posted by carver9
or throwing anywhere out of space

So... Supes is allowed to throw him in space, just not out of it?

...

Ok.

Then Supes ftw.

It looks like someone has a new Coat rack slash Halloween Decoration.

Originally posted by Sparkz
Couldnt Superman just use his heat vision to increase the temp of Ultron so much so his insides melted while the admantium shell stayed intact?

Yes. Considering the fact that his heat vision is hotter than Stars, Superman can see on the microscopic level, and his heat vision can easily reach as far as the moon, Superman can simply fly out of the atmosphere, and heat Ultron up to unbelievable temperatures.

Originally posted by Soljer
Yes. Considering the fact that his heat vision is hotter than Stars, Superman can see on the microscopic level, and his heat vision can easily reach as far as the moon, Superman can simply fly out of the atmosphere, and heat Ultron up to unbelievable temperatures.

thought so, after all the human torch did this in secret wars.

and by my account superman is stronger then hulk and hulk during the secret wars was capable of damaging ultron. So Superman should be capable of it to

Judging by my experience with computers, he could mess up Ultron just by showing him some porn sites or getting him really dusty.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
Judging by my experience with computers, he could mess up Ultron just by showing him some porn sites or getting him really dusty.



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What is the melting point of adamantium? It has to have one, can Supes' heat vision match it?

Originally posted by db_renji
What is the melting point of adamantium? It has to have one, can Supes' heat vision match it?

Adamantium has no melting point or breaking point that is why its adamantium. (mangetism can effect it for some reason though)

Ultron. C'mon why would it be adamantium if it has a boiling point?
the damn thing is indestructible

Originally posted by LordFear
Ultron. C'mon why would it be adamantium if it has a boiling point?
the damn thing is indestructible

Is that why both Wonder Man and Hulk have beaten him?

Uhhh.....

1. Adamantium still conducts and radiates heat....to fragile electronic components.

2. Adamantium CAN be melted. Otherwise, how the hell else would you work it?

Originally posted by batdude123
Is that why both Wonder Man and Hulk have beaten him?

Yeah not with just brute strength,m you can't take him down with just that, hell he eats punches and blows from the entire freaking Avengers and keeps it moving.

Originally posted by Soljer
2. Adamantium CAN be melted. Otherwise, how the hell else would you work it?

SUPPOSEDLY, it's raw liquid form can be processed, but once it cools and hardens, it can't be melted again. Stupid? Yes, but I believe that's how it works.

Originally posted by batdude123
SUPPOSEDLY, it's raw liquid form can be processed, but once it cools and hardens, it can't be melted again. Stupid? Yes, but I believe that's how it works.

Wait...than how did it become a liquid in the first place...?

Originally posted by LordFear
Yeah not with just brute strength.

Yah, actually they both did it with raw strength.

Originally posted by batdude123
SUPPOSEDLY, it's raw liquid form can be processed, but once it cools and hardens, it can't be melted again. Stupid? Yes, but I believe that's how it works.

I thought that was just in the film?

Anyways, if that's the case, then, like Draco said, how was it melted in the first place? It would have already melted once/hardened during the creation of the Earth and general sublimation of the mantle and what not.

Originally posted by batdude123
Yah, actually they both did it with raw strength.

Then that's what you call a load of shit.
How the hell Avengers with THor and Ironman get their asses handed to them but these dudes get the job done with raw might?
sHIT writing from shitless writers, thats what

What WOULD have been good writing is if Thor simply 'ported Ultron to another dimension or shattered him with a Godblast or for once use his hammer correctly...

Iron Man should have cracked Ultron's programming with little difficulty as well.

Originally posted by Draco69
What WOULD have been good writing is if Thor simply 'ported Ultron to another dimension or shattered him with a Godblast or for once use his hammer correctly...

Iron Man should have cracked Ultron's programming with little difficulty as well.

Agreed. on both counts

Originally posted by Soljer
I thought that was just in the film?

Anyways, if that's the case, then, like Draco said, how was it melted in the first place? It would have already melted once/hardened during the creation of the Earth and general sublimation of the mantle and what not.

Your assuming it came naturally in some form.

Hope that answers you questions.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adamantium_%28Marvel_Universe%29



That's like saying Superman throws everyone out into space. And it wouldn't help either. Ultron is a computer system that has backup copies of itself. Once one is eliminated, the program (where ever it's hidden) activates another Ultron with upgrades.



IM isn't all that compared to Ultron. He's got nifty tech but so does Ultron. And again, there's copies of Ultron's program out there. The second version is upgraded with better defense then the first. That's why Ultron's inner component can't be shaken to pieces like Wonder Man use to be able to.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Adamantium has no melting point or breaking point that is why its adamantium. (mangetism can effect it for some reason though)
I think it's ridiculous to assume Adamantium is completely invulnerable instead of just having unreal breaking and melting points.

Don't see Kal-El melting Ulton's adamantium shell. Ultron destroys him.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
I think it's ridiculous to assume Adamantium is completely invulnerable instead of just having unreal breaking and melting points.

It comes from the root word Adamant meaning unbreakable. The implication is that it simply cannot be destroyed in it hardened state.

Ridiculous? Yes, but thats still how it works and is always described.

Kal-El still loses

Originally posted by LORDSIDIOUS01
Kal-El still loses

Not.

Superman taps out to Ultron.

my answer....http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=415066&highlight=tru-marvell

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
It comes from the root word Adamant meaning unbreakable. The implication is that it simply cannot be destroyed in it hardened state.

Ridiculous? Yes, but thats still how it works and is always described.
Unbreakable like diamonds were at the time the word was invented? Look at them now. They hang from the rim of every orifice on our bodies now.

Could a master of the infinity gauntlet amp themselves up to the point where they could physically bend or break adamantium? Or heat it to its melting point? As long as they can, adamantium isn't unbreakable, just absurdly durable.

Originally posted by LORDSIDIOUS01
Kal-El still loses
What do you mean? He can easily overheat Ultron.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
Unbreakable like diamonds were at the time the word was invented? Look at them now. They hang from the rim of every orifice on our bodies now.

I'm not sure what you're trying to say here.



Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
Could a master of the infinity gauntlet amp themselves up to the point where they could physically bend or break adamantium? Or heat it to its melting point? As long as they can, adamantium isn't unbreakable, just absurdly durable.

OK fine but short of that Adamantuim is probably unbreakable.

A better question would be can a master of the IG make a metal that cannot be broken by even a person with the IG?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I'm not sure what you're trying to say here.
I just glanced at the dictionary. One of the definitions of adamant was the name of a legendary stone of impenetrable hardness, "formerly sometimes", whatever that means, identified with diamond.

Back then diamonds were probably "unbreakable" by all means but now they're not.

The point is the root word means jack.

If it can be broken it's not unbreakable.


The ultimate paradox against true omnipotence question.

Adamantium can be destroyed, it just depends on the mass of it (looking to Wiki on this one though)

And didn't Thor knock some of it out of shape once?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Adamantium has no melting point or breaking point that is why its adamantium. so it's mystical ?
(wheres this stated?)

Internal components are not adamantium, the heat vision will fry the circuitry by slow cook.

Plus, Adamantium has been broken, it's just insanely hard to do. For the record, a molecular destabilizer or something like that is needed to manipulate the adamantium once hardened. The nature of the material is that it's an alloy, made from steel and other materials. It has to be melted and merged together before it becomes true adamantium.

Primary adamantium has never been broken in a 616 canon story.

Adamantium can be affected on the molecular level...

Ie. Magnetism... Vibranium... Affect it. It was coined as the most indestructible thing on earth iirc. However that was what 20 or 30 years ago.... And it isn't limited to earth products anymore...

Btw virtually indestructible is to the wielder. For example diamonds could not be broken by a normal human with just about anything he can get his hands on.... We also used to dig up diamonds... But now have the science to create a
Diamond from peanut butter. (carbon based)

Everyone says the are invincible.... Unstoppable... Etc...
That's why we retcon.

Superman stomps.

Superman ftw.

Superman, but he would have to work his ass for it.