Colossus vs. Grey Hulk

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Clobberin Time!
How does Colossus fair against Grey Hulk? I think he gets a beat down, but some might disagree.

guy222
Originally posted by Clobberin Time!
How does Colossus fair against Grey Hulk? I think he gets a beat down, but some might disagree.

Grey Hulk

Clobberin Time!
Colossus is 70 tons. Grey Hulk starts out at 75 tons. Colossus is f*cked. But I bet somebody will disagree.

Evil_Ash
Yeah, and Colossus is only a level 2 Pokemon, while Grey Hulk is a level 5.

juggernaut66666
Originally posted by guy222
Grey Hulk Originally posted by Clobberin Time!
Colossus is 70 tons. Grey Hulk starts out at 75 tons. Colossus is f*cked. But I bet somebody will disagree.
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masterbruce
Originally posted by Evil_Ash
Yeah, and Colossus is only a level 2 Pokemon, while Grey Hulk is a level 5. confused

Clobberin Time!
Originally posted by juggernaut66666
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Soujaboy
Colossus

juggernaut74
Originally posted by Clobberin Time!
Colossus is 70 tons. Grey Hulk starts out at 75 tons. Colossus is f*cked. But I bet somebody will disagree. Colossus is Class 100 according to Marvel. And their opinion>>>yours and mine.

golem370
Yeah and Grey Hulk can increase in strength.

golem370
Gray Hulk- http://www.hulknews.com/hulkdatabase/grayhulk.php

Beta Ray Howard
Originally posted by juggernaut74
Colossus is Class 100 according to Marvel. And their opinion>>>yours and mine.

They said Venom is a class 11. no expression

Marvel's opinion is pretty off sometimes, so don't take the handbooks seriously. erm

Anyway, Grey Hulk takes this one pretty handily. Any Hulk would take this pretty handily.

Did anyone forget the "infinite rage and stamina" part with Hulk?

Rick/Genis
Everyone forgets that...

Beta Ray Howard
I'm beginning to think there's a KMC Colossus that's uber-strong and fights Celestials or something.

juggernaut74
Originally posted by Beta Ray Howard
They said Venom is a class 11. no expression

Marvel's opinion is pretty off sometimes, so don't take the handbooks seriously. erm

Anyway, Grey Hulk takes this one pretty handily. Any Hulk would take this pretty handily.

Did anyone forget the "infinite rage and stamina" part with Hulk? I agree. But the handbooks are wrong with the characters limitations. Originally posted by Beta Ray Howard
I'm beginning to think there's a KMC Colossus that's uber-strong and fights Celestials or something. I honestly don't like Colossus, or even Thing. But Thing is the one who was mentioned at fighting cosmic threats I do believe.

This is a good fight either way. Blob and Rhino gave Grey Hulk a match.

xmeat
hulk kicks the shit outta him.

Grimm22
Thing has beaten the crap out of Grey Hulk before

I can see Colossus doing the same thing here

Beta Ray Howard
Originally posted by juggernaut74
I agree. But the handbooks are wrong with the characters limitations. I honestly don't like Colossus, or even Thing. But Thing is the one who was mentioned at fighting cosmic threats I do believe.

Piotr really hasn't shown the level of class 100 yet though. He's like a 95. Close, but not quite.

I like Colossus, but any incarnation of Hulk is over his head, mostly because Fixit still is damn powerful, and was never portrayed as class 75. erm

Only way I can see Piotr even squeezing off one of them is if it's during the day, because sunlight seemed to mess with Fixit somethin fierce.

Beta Ray Howard
Originally posted by Grimm22
Thing has beaten the crap out of Grey Hulk before

I can see Colossus doing the same thing here

I thought only Pineapple Thing beat him?

Grimm22
Originally posted by Beta Ray Howard
I thought only Pineapple Thing beat him?

Pinnaple Thing was Class 95 or so

Thats the level Ben is at nowadays

Evil_Ash
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spidey-dude
Originally posted by Clobberin Time!
Colossus is 70 tons. Grey Hulk starts out at 75 tons. Colossus is f*cked. But I bet somebody will disagree. any hulk can lift 100 tons

spidey-dude
Originally posted by Grimm22
Pinnaple Thing was Class 95 or so

Thats the level Ben is at nowadays laughing laughing laughing

Jyppe
Originally posted by Beta Ray Howard
They said Venom is a class 11. no expression

Marvel's opinion is pretty off sometimes, so don't take the handbooks seriously. erm

Anyway, Grey Hulk takes this one pretty handily. Any Hulk would take this pretty handily.

Did anyone forget the "infinite rage and stamina" part with Hulk?

Uh, Brock Venom was at the 11 ton range just before he got rid of the symbiote. The cancer greatly weakened him. He got owned by Spiderman in a slugfest.

Besides, Handbooks are a good way to gauge a characters. They might not be accurate, but you can easily compare the feats and the handbook statements to see wether it's true. Colossus showings prove that he's a cl 100. It's not that hard to see. roll eyes (sarcastic) Unless you are a Thing fanboy. Are you?

Originally posted by Beta Ray Howard
I'm beginning to think there's a KMC Colossus that's uber-strong and fights Celestials or something.


I'm beginning to think that you have some issues towards Colossus, Marc. Who has Colossus been put up against he couldn't realistically fight with?

I've seen you "dis" Colossus feats in the Colossus vs Thing thread and stating that Thing is stronger, but he just doesn't have lifting feats.. Yeaah, right. Is sentry stronger than Superman? He doesn't have feats to put him there. Same thing with Thing. (No pun intended)

Have you written anything good about Colossus at all?
How come it's not reasonable that Colossus is a low 100 class member, he has feats which put him there, hell. Even before he got upgraded.

And about the adamantium claws.
- Wolverine has tried to cut Colossus, with no good results.
- Deathverine didn't bother to use his claws, nor the adamantium sword (Which tells us a lot, he did use them against the Hulk) Instead he attacks with electromagnetic energy.


Now, on topic. Could Thing beat Grey Hulk? I doubt he could under the rules of KMC.

xmarksthespot
Originally posted by juggernaut74
But Thing is the one who was mentioned at fighting cosmic threats I do believe. The "armandovalles/Wynndar Thing" whose "heart" made him skygranduncle level.

HigH ScholaR
Grey Hulk wis period

h1a8
Originally posted by Beta Ray Howard
They said Venom is a class 11. no expression

Marvel's opinion is pretty off sometimes, so don't take the handbooks seriously. erm

Anyway, Grey Hulk takes this one pretty handily. Any Hulk would take this pretty handily.

Did anyone forget the "infinite rage and stamina" part with Hulk?

What are you talking about? That site isn't from Marvel.
I've never seen Marvel list Venom as 11tons.

Also note that character's powers are always changing without notice and explanation. For example, Things strength grew from 5tons to 100tons over many years. So in earlier handbooks his strength is listed lower than 100tons. That is why official current bios are best (unless one is talking about a classic character).

Jyppe
Originally posted by h1a8
What are you talking about? That site isn't from Marvel.
I've never seen Marvel list Venom as 11tons.



I've seen a scan. It was before Scorpion, and before the clone symbiot dealie. His body was very cancer ridden so it's fausible.

Sparkz
I though grey Hulk was the only Hulk who's strength didn't increase with his rage which was why he was so much weaker than savage Hulk besides the difference in base strengths.

jrodslam
I think Colossus can beat Grey Hulk.

Its true that Grey Hulk does get stronger as he gets madder. Hes also his strongest during a full moon. Is there a full moon for this fight? If so, ill give Grey Hulk a slight majority if that. 6/10. Maybe even a stalemate.

Beta Ray Howard
Originally posted by jrodslam
I think Colossus can beat Grey Hulk.

Its true that Grey Hulk does get stronger as he gets madder. Hes also his strongest during a full moon. Is there a full moon for this fight? If so, ill give Grey Hulk a slight majority if that. 6/10. Maybe even a stalemate.

I don't remember the moon doing anything for him, but in direct daylight it messed with his psyche.

FearOfBlood
Grey Hulk wins.The guy shattered an asteroid large twice the size of the earth with a punch. Colossus goes down badly and any time.

Skeets
Originally posted by FearOfBlood
Grey Hulk wins.The guy shattered an asteroid large twice the size of the earth with a punch. Colossus goes down badly and any time.
I doubt that was Joe Fixit who did that.

Symmetric Chaos
Originally posted by Skeets
I doubt that was Joe Fixit who did that.

I think it was Savage with magnetic propulsion.

Dinalfos
I think Colossus can beat Grey Hulk. It's certainly a much better fight than Savage Hulk vs. Colossus. However, if Joe gets angry too soon, things might become significantly harder. Also, Don't forget that he's much smarter than Savage.

jinzin
Originally posted by Clobberin Time!
How does Colossus fair against Grey Hulk? I think he gets a beat down, but some might disagree.

colosus starts out winning the fight with superior strength, speed, mobility, and fighting skills.. but he doesn't KO hulk, hulk gets anry, hulk gets stronger, peter gets his metalic arse smeared accross the pavement.

Sparkz
Originally posted by jinzin
colosus starts out winning the fight with superior strength, speed, mobility, and fighting skills.. but he doesn't KO hulk, hulk gets anry, hulk gets stronger, peter gets his metalic arse smeared accross the pavement.

You have a way with words lol

Beta Ray Howard
Originally posted by Skeets
I doubt that was Joe Fixit who did that.

I think it was either Prof. Hulk or Savage Hulk. Not quite sure.

Originally posted by jinzin
colosus starts out winning the fight with superior strength, speed, mobility, and fighting skills.. but he doesn't KO hulk, hulk gets anry, hulk gets stronger, peter gets his metalic arse smeared accross the pavement.

I've just decided you're a lot cooler than I first thought.

Fanboy
Colossus wins.

SpunkySmurph
What's wrong with the world? mad

Grey Hulk gets pwned by Thing! miffed

Grey Hulk is GOING to get pwned by Colossus miffed

mad mad mad

Soljer
Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
What's wrong with the world? mad

Grey Hulk gets pwned by Thing! miffed

Grey Hulk is GOING to get pwned by Colossus miffed

mad mad mad

Pretty much.

Beta Ray Howard
Grey Hulk got beat by Thing with an upgrade. no expression

Colossus still loses.

Unless this is KMC Colossus, who pwners every brick with his legends of actually being near the strength of top tiers.

SpunkySmurph
Originally posted by Beta Ray Howard
Grey Hulk got beat by Thing with an upgrade. no expression

Colossus still loses.

Unless this is KMC Colossus, who pwners every brick with his legends of actually being near the strength of top tiers.

Thing was upgraded from how he was back then. Since, his natural form has improved so that, power wise, Pineapple Thing = Current Thing

And Colossus wins. You're just disagreeing because this is KMC Marcus, who seems to downplay Colossus to the very end. erm

Beta Ray Howard
Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
Thing was upgraded from how he was back then. Since, his natural form has improved so that, power wise, Pineapple Thing = Current Thing

And Colossus wins. You're just disagreeing because this is KMC Marcus, who seems to downplay Colossus to the very end. erm

First off, I'd like to see the scans of Ben Grimm beating Grey Hulk by himself, because it didn't happen.

Second of all, I'm not downplaying Colossus at all. I'm not gonna make him out to be more than he is.

Beta Ray Howard
Grey Hulk vs Pineapple Thing, round 2
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I would also like to see proof that Pineapple Thing and Current Ben Grimm are the same strength level, because that hasn't been shown either.

juggernaut74
Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
You're just disagreeing because this is KMC Marcus, \ That was actually funny. KMC Marcus.

But Colossus as a teenager was already at Thing levels. So that means that Colossus is atleast= or > than Pineapple Thing which would lead to a loss for Grey Hulk.

Colossus has already shown to be Thing levels. Twice actually once during the armwrestling match and the othe time when they teamed up to stop the press. Thing and Colossus looked dead even there.

Beta Ray Howard
Originally posted by juggernaut74
But Colossus as a teenager was already at Thing levels. So that means that Colossus is atleast= or > than Pineapple Thing which would lead to a loss for Grey Hulk.

Colossus has already shown to be Thing levels. Twice actually once during the armwrestling match and the othe time when they teamed up to stop the press. Thing and Colossus looked dead even there.

That's fine and dandy if you see it that way, but this is Hulk we're talking about here. Any incarnation is above Colossus by leagues.

Hell, Grey Hulk stalemated Super-Skrull.

juggernaut74
If somebody can show me a scan of Thing stating that he's stronger or getting stronger or anything I might reconsider. But it's never been shown, but Colossus has stated himself and by others that he has become stronger since the armwrestling match.

Rhino beat Grey Hulk....

Grimm22
Originally posted by Beta Ray Howard
Grey Hulk vs Pineapple Thing, round 2
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I would also like to see proof that Pineapple Thing and Current Ben Grimm are the same strength level, because that hasn't been shown either.

That fight was garbage.

Ben can hold his breath for over 8 minutes, the entire fact that he nearly drowned is ridiculous

Not to mention that Ben is far more skilled and smarter than Grey Hulk.

Beta Ray Howard
Originally posted by juggernaut74
If somebody can show me a scan of Thing stating that he's stronger or getting stronger or anything I might reconsider. But it's never been shown, but Colossus has stated himself and by others that he has become stronger since the armwrestling match.

Rhino beat Grey Hulk....

Rhino and Grey Hulk also had a rematch where Rhino got handled. Rhino ambushed him if I'm not mistaken.

Beta Ray Howard
Originally posted by Grimm22
That fight was garbage.

Ben can hold his breath for over 8 minutes, the entire fact that he nearly drowned is ridiculous

Not to mention that Ben is far more skilled and smarter than Grey Hulk.

I'm aware of that. Hulk seemed to know that as well, which is why he forced air out of Ben's lungs.

juggernaut74
Originally posted by Beta Ray Howard
Rhino and Grey Hulk also had a rematch where Rhino got handled. Rhino ambushed him if I'm not mistaken. Grey Hulk had to use a steel girder to knock Blob out. Colossus did it with his steel fist....twice.

xmeat
why is colossus winning mad enough and grey hulk could beat even thor.

juggernaut74
Originally posted by xmeat
why is colossus winning mad enough and grey hulk could beat even thor. In all fairness to Thor. No incarnation of Hulk is beating Thor.

Beta Ray Howard
Originally posted by juggernaut74
Grey Hulk had to use a steel girder to knock Blob out. Colossus did it with his steel fist....twice.

laughing

Grey hulk was having fun.
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Grimm22
Originally posted by Beta Ray Howard
I'm aware of that. Hulk seemed to know that as well, which is why he forced air out of Ben's lungs.

No plot device = Ben >> Grey Hulk

juggernaut74
Originally posted by Beta Ray Howard
laughing

Grey hulk was having fun.
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Beta Ray Howard
Originally posted by Grimm22
No plot device = Ben >> Grey Hulk

How is that a plot device? Hulk had him beat even before the water.
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He even states there that he's already winded.

You have to admit that the best showing for Ben in a fight with Hulk (aside from him beating Grey Hulk the first time) was during Tales of the Thing when they stalemated and Ben talked him down.

xmeat
Originally posted by juggernaut74
In all fairness to Thor. No incarnation of Hulk is beating Thor. mindless, war hulk, guilt hulk, maestro hulk uh must i keep going on.

juggernaut74
Originally posted by xmeat
mindless, war hulk, guilt hulk, maestro hulk uh must i keep going on. laughing....nope that should just about do it.

xmeat
Originally posted by juggernaut74
laughing....nope that should just about do it. i didn't think so.

xmeat
i rest my case

Jyppe
I think I saw scannage where normal Thing hands Hulk his ass in a boxing match. The art was crap. I'm going to see if I can find it.

What's pineapple Thing's best feat?

FearOfBlood
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I think it was Savage with magnetic propulsion.

No, Fixit did it.

snoopdogg
Colossus.

jrodslam
Originally posted by snoopdogg
Colossus.

Metalmanx
Colossus.

I've never been too impressed with Grey Hulk.

DeathKap
Colossus.

Naija boy
Grey hulk beats him down

KingD19
You're funny dude.

StiltmanFTW
Rasputin

cloud102
Fixit ftw.

Accel
I'd still give it to Fixit. I don't buy that Colossus is any stronger than him, even nowadays. Even if he was, I certainly don't believe that he can take Fixit down before his strength increases enough overpower Pete.

snoopdogg
Fixit started out at Class 75 iirc. So Colossus would have the strength edge for awhile I'd imagine. Plus he's the more technical fighter imo.

KingD19
So Colossus(Class 100), can't take out Fixit(Class 75)? And let's not forget, Fixit gets stronger at a much slower rate than the other Hulks, he goes down dude, just admit it.

Accel
Originally posted by KingD19
So Colossus(Class 100), can't take out Fixit(Class 75)?
Right.

Originally posted by KingD19
he goes down dude, just admit it.
Far be it from me to start spouting LIES.

guy222
Joe

snoopdogg
Once Colossus stopped pulling his punches and started using his skill he didn't have much problems with Savage Hulk.

StiltmanFTW
Good point, snoop.

And Ms Marvel has beaten the crap out of Fixit.

Phantom Zone
Originally posted by snoopdogg
Once Colossus stopped pulling his punches and started using his skill he didn't have much problems with Savage Hulk.

Grey Hulk is more tactical and those issues looked like PIS. Getting hurt by Lockheed...c'mon. erm


Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Good point, snoop.

And Ms Marvel has beaten the crap out of Fixit.

When was this? Loeb?

StiltmanFTW
yep.

snoopdogg
True, Grey Hulk is more tactical but he's alot weaker than Savage.

KingD19
Contrary to popular belief, Hulk get's hurt all the time. He just regenerates very quickly.

jinzin
Originally posted by KingD19
So Colossus(Class 100), can't take out Fixit(Class 75)? And let's not forget, Fixit gets stronger at a much slower rate than the other Hulks, he goes down dude, just admit it.

No he doesn't. He just doesn't get as enraged as haphazardly as his counterparts. Once he does fly off the handle however, his strength actually increases faster and to a more devistating degree, this was referenced several times and they made an entire what if story revolving around that point.

Colossus most like takes this fight unlesss Grulk pulls out some mass rage mid-fight... but since he won't do that a majority of the time.. he loses.

KingD19
I agree with you, but What If's don't count do they?

Ptr_Grifin
Originally posted by jinzin
No he doesn't. He just doesn't get as enraged as haphazardly as his counterparts. Once he does fly off the handle however, his strength actually increases faster and to a more devastating degree, this was referenced several times and they made an entire what if story revolving around that point.

I'd like to read more about this.

guysangel
Fixit

Mindset
Originally posted by KingD19
I agree with you, but What If's don't count do they? He isn't using the what if as proof, he's using it to further his point.

Phantom Zone
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
yep.

erm

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
erm

If LOEBFORCE didn't help him, what chance would stand regular Grey Hulk? tongue

BUSTER1
After a hard fight I reckon Fixit can pull it off.

snoopdogg
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
If LOEBFORCE didn't help him, what chance would stand regular Grey Hulk? tongue Good point. And isn't Marvel rated at 70 tons?

snoopdogg
I just went back and looked and Ms. Marvel beat the crap out of Grey Hulk and she mentions the Shield files say he isn't anywhere near as strong as green Hulk.

Phantom Zone
Originally posted by snoopdogg
I just went back and looked and Ms. Marvel beat the crap out of Grey Hulk and she mentions the Shield files say he isn't anywhere near as strong as green Hulk.

Yeah but apart from Ms Marvel when has Grey Hulk been handled like that? Loeb jobs peoples arse out. Hell recently he made Red Hulk kill Grandmaster but had Red Hulk have more trouble with Savage Hulk. I mean WTF Savage Hulk > Grandmaster? Loeb just ****s things up.

Mindset
Loeb is a master at fiction, how dare you question him.

snoopdogg
Wolverine diced him up pretty quickly iirc.

Mindset
Didn't Grey Hulk beat Wolverine.

Also, it's Wolverine.

snoopdogg
I remember Logan winning. Could be wrong.

carver9
Originally posted by Mindset
Didn't Grey Hulk beat Wolverine.

Also, it's Wolverine.

Just no, it ended in a stalemate

jinzin
Originally posted by snoopdogg
I just went back and looked and Ms. Marvel beat the crap out of Grey Hulk and she mentions the Shield files say he isn't anywhere near as strong as green Hulk. Typically he isn't... He's like what class 75

ankur29
Originally posted by Grimm22


Ben can hold his breath for over 8 minutes, the entire fact that he nearly drowned is ridiculous

Not to mention that Ben is far more skilled and smarter than Grey Hulk.

8 mins? so can spiderman cool

BUSTER1
Pineapple Thing nearly drowned because Fixit pulled the heimlich manouver on him- otherwise he could've held his breath for an hour minimum

Phantom Zone
Did Pinapple Thing beat Grey Hulk in a straight fight? I think he did.

BUSTER1
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Did Pinapple Thing beat Grey Hulk in a straight fight? I think he did.

True-as Doom stated "Your anger continues to increase your strength Hulk, but you won't attain sufficient strength before Grimm defeats you. In short, you don't get strong enough, quickly enough"

BUT.... Fixit by his own admission trid to win as a slug out artist. When he started fighting smart he won

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