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who wins here out of these insane power houses

Genis needed help from a cosmic to recreate the universe, Parallax did it by himself.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Genis needed help from a cosmic to recreate the universe, Parallax did it by himself.

Might i also add while fighting a bunch of heroes.

Don't forget Spectre.

Originally posted by Redatom65
who wins here out of these insane power houses

Parallax

Originally posted by guy222
Parallax

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w17/guy222_photos/DestroysUniverse2.jpg
http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w17/guy222_photos/DestroysUniverse3.jpg
http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w17/guy222_photos/DestroysUniverse4.jpg
http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w17/guy222_photos/RecreatesUniverse1.jpg

Insane Genesis with unlocked potential blinked out space and time by himself, literaly *blinked.
He would be at Ion or Parallax's level.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Genis needed help from a cosmic to recreate the universe, Parallax did it by himself.

Actually Genis destroyed the Multiverse with the Help of Entropy.

Genis Helped Entropy Re-Create the Multiverse from scratch.


Not just a Universe folks.

Yo.

which means he still had help from a Cosmic, right??

wat issues did that happen in btw plz??




Tazer

What's really insane is how much undeserved credit Genis gets for that feat.

He dies fast against Parallax.

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/2888/ggbd0.th.jpg
"DO you hear it? ... All the Nothing? ... so Peaceful."




"You're not God"

"Of course I am"
http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/8163/43465881st2.th.jpg
"I could have let you face Oblivion with the rest of the Microverse"


(this PROVES it was indeed the Multiverse that was destroyed

by Genis & Entropy ...

the Microverse is in a separate Universe outside 616)





http://img387.imageshack.us/img387/9179/g3nu7.th.jpg
Rick even says, "What did he expect to Exist at the end of everything"





They took out the entire Multiverse

This confirms it, besides the On Panel proof:




Backside Front Page:


"ENTROPY is the Son of,

Eternity, the Cosmic Being whose Essence Encompasses the ENTIRETY of the MULTIVERSE ...

Entropy has enlisted Captain Marvel in a Quest to Destroy His Father,

... Eternity and End All Creation"

http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/1967/cm1ls8.th.jpg

Yo.

1) who dounted that??

2) clearly, he still had help

3) wat issues was that in??




Tazer

Originally posted by Validus
What's really insane is how much undeserved credit Genis gets for that feat.

I agree.


Originally posted by Validus
He dies fast against Parallax.

I don't know about that.

Parallax erased a single Universe, never got to create a separate reality.

His attempts at using his power at such levels were causing inadvertant side-effects like blinking realities in and out of existence.

From how I understood ZR, Parallax was not in control of that side-effect.


Genis erased the entire 616 Multiverse from existence with the help of Entropy.

Even if we gave him only an exact Half of the Credit,

that would mean Genis can make Half a Multiverse disappear from existence.



Not too sure on who wins the majority.

Originally posted by Tazer
Yo.

1) who dounted that??




Originally posted by Tazer
2) clearly, he still had help

To destroy the mainstream Marvel Multiverse, the only Multiverse in Marvel,

that contains a Cosmic Hierarchy?

I agree.


Originally posted by Tazer
3) wat issues was that in??

Captain Marvel #6

Yo.

errrr, I meant to say "who DISPUTED that?"

sometimes my Web Fu is lacking....




Tazer

Parallax.


Easily.

Originally posted by Galan007
Parallax.

Easily.

hm

Originally posted by Mr Master
hm = nup

He simply had much greater feats IMO.

Originally posted by Galan007
He simply had much greater feats IMO.

Their power can't be too much off,

Parallax erased A Universe on his own. (inadvertantly affected multiple realities)

Genis erased (atleast) Half A Multiverse.


Parallax can play with Time.

Genis has Omniversal Awareness. (Past-Present-Future) are known to him.


Seems like an interesting match.

good match, masters has some good points

Half a Multiverse, eh... That's based on the assumption him and Entropy did equal work.

Which is something we simply don't know.

Entropy could have done almost all of it, Genis could have done almost all of it, but "One Half" is simply a guess.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Half a Multiverse, eh... That's based on the assumption him and Entropy did equal work.

Which is something we simply don't know.

Entropy could have done almost all of it, Genis could have done almost all of it, but "One Half" is simply a guess. True.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Half a Multiverse, eh... That's based on the assumption him and Entropy did equal work.

Which is something we simply don't know.

It's a valid asssumption considering they both erased the Multiverse together.


Originally posted by King Kandy
Entropy could have done almost all of it, Genis could have done almost all of it,

Nothing in the arc to suggest that Entropy did more.

Quite the opposite.


Originally posted by King Kandy
but "One Half" is simply a guess.

I'm giving Entropy the benefit of the doubt.

If anything according to the arc,

Genis did MOST of the work, when it came to erasing the Multiverse.

Genis even proclaims HIMSELF "GOD" ... without mentioning Entropy.


Entropy did MOST of the work, when it came to Creating a New Multiverse.

Parallax FTW

The point is that we just plain don't know.

Any assertion is speculation. We know they did it together. that is all.

It could be 50-50. Or it could be 99-1. We have no clue.

As for Genis calling himself God, he does that all the time. It's his thing. The fact that he was in the presence of Entropy makes no difference there. He's a total egomaniac.

Originally posted by King Kandy
The point is that we just plain don't know.

Any assertion is speculation. We know they did it together. that is all.

It could be 50-50. Or it could be 99-1. We have no clue.


http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/1982/g1di1.th.jpg
"Can't you see he's blaming himself for failing to kill you (Genis) and saving the Universe?




http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/6278/g2zm0.th.jpg
"right before I (Genis) crushed him ... like this"





http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/3366/g3af4.th.jpg
"Entropy and I (Genis) were busy ending everything"





http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/791/g4kb1.th.jpg
"I (Genis) could have let you faced Oblivion"





http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/6044/g5nb5.th.jpg
"You (Genis) destroy life at a Whim ... You're (Genis) not God"

Genis replies,

Of course I am ... Haven't you been paying attention to MY (Genis) acts?" (Erasing the Multiverse)





http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/5827/g6ed1.th.jpg
"Entropy you've ended all that is ... Well ... WE (Genis & Entropy) did"





IMO,

giving Entropy the benefit of the doubt,

although Genis is mentioned MORE, as the destroyer of the Multiverse,

and although Genis claims that HE was the one,

to "CRUSH" Eternity, while Entorpy helped him "BOUND" him.


I'll say 50 - 50.

Originally posted by Mr Master
http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/1982/g1di1.th.jpg
"Can't you see he's blaming himself for failing to kill you (Genis) and saving the Universe?
Even if Genis only did one percent, the one percent could have been absolutely necesary. Entropy COULD NOT have killed Eternity without Genis's help.



Originally posted by Mr Master
http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/6278/g2zm0.th.jpg
"right before I (Genis) crushed him ... like this"
Yeah, about that. We don't know if that was a fresh Eternity, or one beaten down by constant battle.

And anyway, Eternity WANTED to die.




Originally posted by Mr Master
http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/3366/g3af4.th.jpg
"Entropy and I (Genis) were busy ending everything"
Yeah, that's what they were busy doing... The point? There were two people going about ending everything, and both were named.



Originally posted by Mr Master
http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/791/g4kb1.th.jpg
"I (Genis) could have let you faced Oblivion"
...So? It's within Genis's power to save Rick. This has nothing to do with anything.

He could have let Rick face Oblivion. He saved him. He's powerful enough to do that.



Originally posted by Mr Master
http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/6044/g5nb5.th.jpg
"You (Genis) destroy life at a Whim ... You're (Genis) not God"

Genis replies,

Of course I am ... Haven't you been paying attention to MY (Genis) acts?" (Erasing the Multiverse)
Are you sure the "Acts" (Plural) are destroying the multiverse?




Originally posted by Mr Master
http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/5827/g6ed1.th.jpg
"Entropy you've ended all that is ... Well ... WE (Genis & Entropy) did"
So they did.

But we already knew that.


Originally posted by Mr Master
IMO,

giving Entropy the benefit of the doubt,

although Genis is mentioned MORE, as the destroyer of the Multiverse,

and although Genis claims that HE was the one,

to "CRUSH" Eternity, while Entorpy helped him "BOUND" him.


I'll say 50 - 50.

Of course Genis was mentioned more.

If you were paying attention, the conversation was about him. Of course he'll be the most refferenced guy.