Did Dumbledore and Severus Snape had a relationship?

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Aqua-pimp
Ok so i always wonderd why Dumbledore trusted Snape..
I mean the guy was a deadeater and stuff and because of him Harry parents got killed...
So what if Dumbledore was in love with Snape it's a nasty thought sick but it's possible it would explain his strong trust in him ..



This quote i found on wikipedia what if this love was Dumbledore
Could it be that Dumbledore was in love with Snape...

I wanna know you're though about my theorie...
i mean Dumbledore was a smart man but maybe his love for Snape clauded his judment..

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Barker
No. You're retarded for even considering it.

DarkC
Absolutely f***ing no way.

Aqua-pimp
And why is this theorie retarded? give me a reason.. or do you just like calling me name's like a little punk who get's big balls whenever he sits before a pc because he knows nobody gonna kick his a like a hooker who owed her pimp money ... erm

DarkC
You really think Rowling will put homosexuality in a Potter book?


And besides....absolutely no f***ing way.

Gravitation
I agree with the others. And that quote,I believe she meant by another student.

The Phantom
Originally posted by Barker
No. You're retarded for even considering it. Originally posted by DarkC
Absolutely f***ing no way. Originally posted by DarkC
You really think Rowling will put homosexuality in a Potter book?


And besides....absolutely no f***ing way. These sum it up well.

Aqua-pimp
Wel with every new book the story matures...
Book one starded like a innocent childrens book and in book 4,5 and 6 people get killed and stuff..
So bringing in homosexualtity could be a new way for Jk to enter a next level of maturity and controversy i mean damn something like that would shine a whole new light on the series.. laughing

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DarkC
Don't be stupid. She doesn't want that kind of controversy, and an assload of parents is going to march up her door demanding answers if she does.


Having that garbage in a Potter book is by no means "mature". Use your head.

Aqua-pimp
Believe it or not it's 2007 now homosexualtity is excepted in many places in the world nowadays...

She put deads in a childrens book - Dumbledore

She put mutilation in a childrens book - Bill

And still no reports of assload of parents at her door ... erm

So yeah there's a chance she'll put that kind of garbage in a childrens book.. I don't hope so do but stil..

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DarkC
Worldwide yes, it's being accepted and even embraced more readily. Same-sex marriage is legal in some parts of the world already.

In a Potter book? Hell no.

Dead and mutilation are generic and come from the fact that Voldemort is back, of course there is going to be death, mutilation, injury. Blood. Your point being? Those are not the same thing and not on level with homosexuality. It's like comparing chairs to pianos, they're two completely different things. Don't associate them with each other.



That's because she hasn't actually done it yet, dimwit. You're probably one in ten million who speculate certain theories that was crap before and was crap in the end anyways.

Gayness in a children's book? You kidding me?
Even though kids have been reading it as they grow up, don't forget the younger generation that have only just started. What do you suppose Mom will think when little Kenneth asks why two men are kissing?

The Phantom
Originally posted by DarkC
Worldwide yes, it's being accepted and even embraced more readily. Same-sex marriage is legal in some parts of the world already.

In a Potter book? Hell no.

Dead and mutilation are generic and come from the fact that Voldemort is back, of course there is going to be death, mutilation, injury. Blood. Your point being? Those are not the same thing and not on level with homosexuality. It's like comparing chairs to pianos, they're two completely different things. Don't associate them with each other.



That's because she hasn't actually done it yet, dimwit. You're probably one in ten million who speculate certain theories that was crap before and was crap in the end anyways.

Gayness in a children's book? You kidding me?
Even though kids have been reading it as they grow up, don't forget the younger generation that have only just started. What do you suppose Mom will think when little Kenneth asks why two men are kissing? Mom: "Give me that book." *goes into room for long period of time reading book. Kenneth is scarred for life hearing moaning sounds coming from the room and accidentally walking into the room to get his book back.*

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Barker
Originally posted by Aqua-pimp
And why is this theorie retarded? give me a reason.. or do you just like calling me name's like a little punk who get's big balls whenever he sits before a pc because he knows nobody gonna kick his a like a hooker who owed her pimp money ... erm
laughing out loud

I always laugh when the best retort someone can come up with has to do with sex somehow. It's kind of pathetic, especially since you know nothing about me. Kinda random, like a last resort.

laughing out loud

Syren
"Deadeater" laughing out loud

Aqua-pimp
Yeah dead and mutilation are the most normal things in a childrens book.. erm
The Harry Potter books are famed because with every new book they bring in aspecs a mature adience is familair with and in many countries the've evolved so far that there not holding there assses and light on the torches every time they hear the word gay witch means there familair with it England where Jk lives being one of them You're point being?





So i'f my theorie is crap why do you border debating my crap?erm Do you just love my crap or are you just afraid my crap could be true.. laughing out loud



Who said anything about sex? I sure didn't the thread statedbig grinid
Dumbledore and Severus Snape had a relationship not are Dumbledore and Snape gonna have a gay sex scene in Harry Potter and the deadly Hollows a la Broke Back mountain.. sick
Why the hell are you being off topic fantasizing about a gay sex scene dude...Jk can put some hints in here new book about a relationship not a fr*kkin sex scene smartass



Again who said anything about sex??!! laughing
Didn't you read the thread ?? Why are you fantasizing about a gay sex scene that wasn't my intend when i created this thread ..So gues that means you're the pathetic one happy
And i don't know you but uhm.. with these kind of statements you're giving me the strong impression someone is locked up in the closet.. shifty

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Syren
Do you actually believe Dumbledore and Snape are/were gay lovers?

Aqua-pimp
Well it could be .. I mean it was never stated in any of the other books that he had a wife or was heterosexuel ..
JK killed Dumbledore in book six i really didn't saw that coming and in the end it brought in more money controversy and fans and making Dumbledore turn out gay would cause a similar if not greater effect..

I wouldn't like it if he'd turned out gay personally i would be shocked just like how i was shocked at when she killed Dumbledore i wouldn''t eat or speak for days laughing out loud
But it made me like her more as a writer i'f she just killed of characters which the fans love that's a sign that woman doesn't give a f*ck gotta give her mad props for that ... big grin
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DarkC
Originally posted by Aqua-pimp
Yeah dead and mutilation are the most normal things in a childrens book.. erm
The Harry Potter books are famed because with every new book they bring in aspecs a mature adience is familair with and in many countries the've evolved so far that there not holding there assses and light on the torches every time they hear the word gay witch means there familair with it England where Jk lives being one of them You're point being?
It's true, they bring newer concepts and realities into the children's world. While death and multilation are familiar in children's books, none convey the tragedy of it as much as Rowling does in her Potter books.

However, bringing in an oblique and controversial subject matter such as homosexuality for example, or racism into the Potter books is much more dangerous to incorporate into a childrens' book. Do you see those justified for a good reason in any "children'"s books? No. Your argument is moot. Even if England and the world is familiar with it, it would be a stupid idea to insert into every aspect of everyday life there is.

Oh, because someone "loves" your crap means that they'll oppose you about it every time you throw a moronic point out into the blue.

That's the stupidest logic I've ever seen.

No, I just feel very strongly against your idea and I happen to like a good debate. Stop assuming nonsense.
"Afraid your crap" would be true? Absolute bullshit. Because hey, it'll never, ever happen. Face it.

Whether sexuality is involved in your so called couple doesn't have relevance to the actual subject itself. You really pulled that point out of your ass, didn't you?

Sex or not, homosexuality as a topic is still homosexuality.

I personally challenge you to find any point in his statement where he seriously indicated that he was fantasizing about said sex scene. And JK may have set some hints about a relationship, but not a homosexual one and certainly not between Dumbledore and Snape.

Stick to the subject, not to pathetically attempting to make yourself look good by giving the scapegoat tag to someone else.

If you take his inherent trust in Snape and slap it as "love", then you're more delusional than I thought. Read book five and six again.

DarkC
Originally posted by Aqua-pimp
Again who said anything about sex??!! laughing
Didn't you read the thread ?? Why are you fantasizing about a gay sex scene that wasn't my intend when i created this thread ..So gues that means you're the pathetic one happy
And i don't know you but uhm.. with these kind of statements you're giving me the strong impression someone is locked up in the closet.. shifty

cool
This is supposed to be a debate, my shortsighted impudent friend. And yet, here you are throwing completely off-topic insults about others who oppose your sense of view like a foolish little child throwing toy bowling pins at the neighbour.

Two words: grow up.

No no no, it's you who's pathetic. Not only do you accuse him of being gay and an extremely perverted one at that, which was entirely uncalled for, you did it to me as well. Tell me, is that the only comeback you can muster? Take an originality pill for once. Not once have you given back a true and clearly expressed point, with backing arguments to be debated. You're just slinging barbs around, that's what you're doing.

Oh, and stop making childish little assumptions about his own sex life as well. That's his business and none of yours. Kindly mind your own bloody business, thank you very much.

DarkC
Originally posted by Aqua-pimp
Well it could be .. I mean it was never stated in any of the other books that he had a wife or was heterosexuel ..
JK killed Dumbledore in book six i really didn't saw that coming and in the end it brought in more money controversy and fans and making Dumbledore turn out gay would cause a similar if not greater effect..

I wouldn't like it if he'd turned out gay personally i would be shocked just like how i was shocked at when she killed Dumbledore i wouldn''t eat or speak for days laughing out loud
But it made me like her more as a writer i'f she just killed of characters which the fans love that's a sign that woman doesn't give a f*ck gotta give her mad props for that ... big grin
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And neither it was stated in any of the books that he had a husband or was homosexual.

So why are you assuming above, especially when it has almost no real concrete backup? Seems premature to me. It's far too controversial a topic, having Dumbledore die caused enough uproar. And no you think she'll honestly ship him up there with Snape? Death is one thing, finding out that the greatest wizard in the Potter series was gay is another. Learn to distinguish the two.

A lot of people like surprises, that's true. But there's different kinds. The reaction after being X or Y or so on. Death, hey that's normal even in the world of a child.

They don't, however, have to find out that Dumbledore was in love with Snape. It's just too dangerous a topic to bring into a child's world.

You love her as a writer because she kills people off and hits us where we expect it least? That's not what I value in her as an author. I value her ingenuity and talent for creating a world that is unreal, yet still keenly imaginable. If you want suspense and being caught off guard, go read Jeffery Deaver.

Gravitation
Oo You pretty much summed it all up DarkC.

dirkdirden
Dumbledore trusted snape for many reasons, but the main reason was to use him as a spy. I personally still think snape is a good guy and was only forced to kill Dumbledore to 1 protect Harry 2 protect himself and draco(becuase of the unbreakable vow).

Gravitation
Originally posted by dirkdirden
Dumbledore trusted snape for many reasons, but the main reason was to use him as a spy. I personally still think snape is a good guy and was only forced to kill Dumbledore to 1 protect Harry 2 protect himself and draco(becuase of the unbreakable vow).

I second that. But I think Dumbledore was also like a guardian to Snape.

dirkdirden
Originally posted by Gravitation
I second that. But I think Dumbledore was also like a guardian to Snape.
yes he was, amongst many other things

Aqua-pimp
Yeah Jk would never put a controversial matter like racism in her book.. Voldermorts life goal isn't purifing the magical world of mudbloods and he's definitly not down with pure blood supremacy ..
Yeah that Voldemort guy is all abourt hugs and kisses isn't he? Question did you've ever actualy read a Harry Potter book?
ok read the following line really carefully...
SHE ALREADY PUT A CONTROVERSIAL SUBJECT MATTER LIKE RACISM IN HER BOOK GIVE ME ONE GOOD REASON WHY SHE WOULN'T PUT ANOTHER CONTROVERSIAL SUBJECT LIKE HOMOSEXUALTITY IN HER BOOKS???? AL WHAT YOU'VE GIVING ME TILL NOW IS SH*T OF THE HIGHEST ORDER .. laughing



I'f it's so moronic why couldn't you give me a good reason why it's moronic?And how do you know it'll never happen or did you've already read book 7.. And for the record it's youre problem i'f you feel strongly against my idea i like a good debate myself unfortunatly you're not really good in that erm



I sooo agree on that it really has no relevance...So why are you fantasizing about two men kissing?

That was you riight... ( I'm serieusly pissing my pants right now you're a funny guy but i ain't mad at ya you can go fantasize about kissing men all you want it's the internet you're girlfriend isn't gonna know about it ...Do you even have a girlfriend.. laughing laughing )



Stick to the subject????ow no you didn't eek!
You where the one who started about kissing men the thread wasn't even about that.. So why don't you listen to you're own advice..
I just said the word gay and you're fantasizing about two men having sex?? g*damn you s*ck really mature G reeaaalyy mature...




The greatest wizard of the world was gay so what? There are worst things in the world than being gay it's 2007 nobody's gonna give a godd*mn f*ck especialy not JK godd*mn she's rich and she does whatever the f*ck she wants not what some caveman from the midle of nowhere think about the desicions she makes in her books.. Last time i've checked England was a free country she can write whatever the f*ck she wants to and hey everything on this forum that's about the storyline of the 7th Harry Potter book is premature unles you where blessed with the first sample of the book... laughing out loud gues it's time for someone to take his head out of his own ass and take a look in the world nowadays instead of boring people by saying absolutly nothing wink



And i'f you don't like surprising storylines suspense and originaltity go read Winnie the Poe or a gay magazine..Because you like seing gay men kissing hey girlfriend laughing
Sorry but when i'm reading a book like Harry Potter i like being got off guard i like surprises instead of constaly knowing what's gonna happen gues that would become really boring ..

Barker
Originally posted by Aqua-pimp
Again who said anything about sex??!! laughing
Didn't you read the thread ?? Why are you fantasizing about a gay sex scene that wasn't my intend when i created this thread ..So gues that means you're the pathetic one happy
And i don't know you but uhm.. with these kind of statements you're giving me the strong impression someone is locked up in the closet.. shifty

cool
Masturbation is a form of sex. roll eyes (sarcastic) It's self-sex, but sex none the less. no expression

And no, I'm not gay. But again, it's kind of pathetic that the best you can come up with is that, especially since you know nothing about me. Calling someone gay is the lamest comeback possible. petpet

Aqua-pimp
Ey look men i'f you wanna be gay you can be gay till the break a dawn dude i don't give f*ck you don't have to pretend you''re exposed wink What do you want me rather to call you than? malebootylovingamerican?
laughing out loud
And no i don't know anything about you... and i don't think i want to either happy

DarkC
Originally posted by Aqua-pimp
Yeah Jk would never put a controversial matter like racism in her book.. Voldermorts life goal isn't purifing the magical world of mudbloods and he's definitly not down with pure blood supremacy ..
Yeah that Voldemort guy is all abourt hugs and kisses isn't he? Question did you've ever actualy read a Harry Potter book?
ok read the following line really carefully...
SHE ALREADY PUT A CONTROVERSIAL SUBJECT MATTER LIKE RACISM IN HER BOOK GIVE ME ONE GOOD REASON WHY SHE WOULN'T PUT ANOTHER CONTROVERSIAL SUBJECT LIKE HOMOSEXUALTITY IN HER BOOKS???? AL WHAT YOU'VE GIVING ME TILL NOW IS SH*T OF THE HIGHEST ORDER .. laughing
No, you're not quite getting it.

That's a cleverly disguised form of racism. We both know that the definition of a Mudblood is someone with heritage of Muggle ancestry. The thing about it is, do you see racism as we know it in our world? No. Anything about whites vs blacks? None, zip and zilch. Nada. You can't exactly get in trouble for calling someone a Mudblood, but you can get in trouble for calling someone ******/chink/etc.

Her concern is; she doesn't want to see little Sally run off to school and call her teacher, who happens to be a black, a ****** just for the heck of it. She teaches the general concept, yet not encourage kids to go running around sowing anti-Black sentiments.

However, what you suggested is much more direct. There's no disguising homosexuality, it is what it is and it's stagnant. It's not exactly something that you can sugar up.
What kind of impact do you think having one of their greatest Magical heroes as a homosexual will have on very young readers?
What kind of trouble do you think she'll get into with Bloomsbury for pulling off that kind of stunt?

Think about it, if his death caused a huge uproar, finding out he's gay will be like a firestorm in midsummer.

Hahahahahahahahaha!!

You're accusing me of not providing the facts. Oh, that's a good one.

As far as I know, I have backed up my statements and claims and have provided reasonable arguments. You? You keep blustering on about how "It's 2007, let's all go and insert homosexuality in any type of media we can get our hands on"!

Rowling says: "Snape was loved."
And from that, somehow, you say: "OMFG It's Dumbledore!"

Oh, it's not up to you to decide which is the better debator in this argument. Nor is it up to me. It's up to the onlookers. And it looks like I've garnered more support than you have. How many supporters do you have? Oh yeah, none. Nil.

Okay, let's get some things straight.

You're for use of homosexuality, I'm strongly not.
Every time I've tried to dismiss the subject, you've brought it back for some odd reason. You know what? You're just blustering again. And I'm perfectly straight, thank you very much.

And yet you somehow get the idea that I, not you, enjoy watching men kissing. Your logic is absolutely nonexistant.

Oh, my, you're wetting yourself. Now, now.
Go clean it up, seriously. If you find any of this funny, then you're more idiotic than I thought.

How is this relevant? It isn't. You're drowning here and trying to throw out completely deranged insults just to annoy your opponents. And I am straight. Jesus Christ.

I don't find it annoying as much as I find it pathetic.

Once again, 0/5 for originality.



Oh yes, I did.

Seriously, what is the point of all these snide little sidesnips? To make you feel better? Well, whatever floats your boat.

I slipped it in there as an satirical example. Know your literary terms. If you actually think I meant that seriously then you need to read my posts more carefully.

There are worse things than being gay, yeah. Tell me something I don't know for once. And it still doesn't change anything. Homosexuality is still too inappropriate a subject to insert into something like Harry Potter. It doesn't matter if it's 2007 or 2003. If it's inappropriate for anyone in the intended age group, it shouldn't be there.

She writes whatever she wants?. No shit. However, it's the response to her writing that will make the most impact and that's what's on Bloomsbury and Rowling's mind. Just because it's a "free country" doesn't mean you don't get people pounding at your front door for making a poor decision. No excuse.

Get real. None of the trio, as far as we know, have lost their virginity and they're turning 17. No concept of sexuality yet. Not even close. Romance maybe. And if she hasn't done that, what the hell makes you think she'll throw a bombshell concept like homosexuality into the mix? Totally uncalled for.

You're saying that it'll be boring if gayness not in there?

Not long ago you were blustering that you were actually hoping that it wouldn't be on there.
Not long ago, you were also accusing me and Barker of being gay.

Try not to be such a hypocrite.

Your idea of "originality" and "suspense" is restricted to having homosexuality inserted into a book? Oh, please. You wouldn't know a good book if it hit you on the head at this rate. There are more and better methods of having those two elements in a Potter book without the inappropriate trash.

You seem to be pretty sure that it'll be in the seventh.

Yet you'll still be caught off guard if it is.

*cough* Hypocrisy *cough*

Aqua-pimp
Don't start with the off topic crap because you're two men kissing comment was really inmature and off topic and gave me the logical impression you where gay ...
And yes this is supposed to be a debate so debate bring in facts instead of insults because i'm laughing my ass off because of you're very original insults gues now i know who took the last orginaltity pill.. happy
But to be on topic you've still didn't gave me a good reason why homosexuality is impossible you've only came with insults and b*llsh*t and of course i'm gonna diss you what the hell did you expect cool

Damn look at the controversy iv'e created by making this thread i'f i was Jk i would of made money outta you DarkC.. and other fools who think gay people are pink demons from hell laughing

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Aqua-pimp
Woow DarkC that's a whole lotta b*llsh*t you've written therehappy I'ma gonna read that in the morning doh some of us still have social lives you know unlike some of us.. wink *cough* DarkC*cough*
Maybe i'll bother reading it tomorow when i have the time you made me laugh more than enough today big grin

goodnight

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DarkC
Originally posted by Aqua-pimp
Woow DarkC that's a whole lotta b*llsh*t you've written therehappy I'ma gonna read that in the morning doh some of us still have social lives you know unlike some of us.. wink *cough* DarkC*cough*
Maybe i'll bother reading it tomorow when i have the time you made me laugh more than enough today big grin

goodnight

cool
Hahahahahaha!

Translation: "Goddamn it, you wrote too much and I'm too damn lazy to do it now."

Who do you think you're trying to bullshit here, seriously. Do yourself a favour and don't bluster like that.

DarkC
Originally posted by Aqua-pimp
Don't start with the off topic crap because you're two men kissing comment was really inmature and off topic and gave me the logical impression you where gay ...
You didn't even read my own post. Next time read my post before responding. You're not justifying any of your gay accusation bullshit either.

Did I not say that I merely tossed that one in as a satirical example? Yes I did. It wasn't meant to be taken seriously, yet someone with a severe lack of common sense like you apparently just did. Next time you post something, read between the lines to make sure it makes sense first. And stop the meaningless insulting, tis' making you appear to be as mature as a twelve year old.


Hahahahaha, you tried calling me and Barker gay, completely out of context, and yet you're whining to me about me throwing out the insults? You know why I'm throwing em' right back in your face? Because I detest unruly people calling me a gay, that's why.

Again, hypocrisy reeks on you, badly. Go take a good shower.

No, you've got it wrong again, I'm not exactly putting time and effort into making up these little snob eddies to throw my opponent off. You're still throwing insults around like a child yet to go through puberty. If you want to be more respected, don't throw extreme wildcards like that.

Oh, please.

I know each and every one of your points, and you have not the brains to catch any of mine. How very immature and shortsighted. Read again between the lines if you want to grow in terms of intelligence, really.

Oh, that gives you leeway to call me gay, because you don't like me.
That's not how it works here, kid.

Controversy? What controversy? It hasn't actually been done yet and it's rather one sided right now, don't go thinking it's a controversy just yet. Try to be politically correct for once.

No, you're wrong yet again. I don't oppose gays by themselves, but I oppose the concept itself being put into a children's book. Please tell me you weren't so ignorant as to not see that.

God, the ignorance of some people these days; God, deliver us from evil. And by evil I mean stupidity.

Nickey
no2 I'm not gonna start anything like usually do this time.

No offense, but J.K. Rowling would never put that stuff in a children's book. It's not appropriate for kids our age. I mean, it's true we all know about it, but that doesn't mean it has to be everywhere you turn. We already know about people being gay. Why ruin such a good book by doing that?

I'm not trying to offended anyone. angel
I'm just saying that it wouldn't be something parents would let their kids read. Some parents don't even want their kids to read Harry Potter books because they think it talks about the devil, and how good he is blah blah blah.
So imagine if J.K. Rowling were to do that, imagine how many disappointed kids there would be. erm




















P.S. I hope no one is offended by my opinion. I don't mean anything by it. Please don't take it as an insult. Thank you! big grin

DarkC
Exactly! Simply because we're embracing a newer, radical culture does not mean that gayness should be expressed in anything possible media-wise. Potter books are fine without it.

Nickey
Originally posted by DarkC
Exactly! Simply because we're embracing a newer, radical culture does not mean that gayness should be expressed in anything possible media-wise. Potter books are fine without it.

Thanks for agreeing! big grin

DarkC
Originally posted by Nickey
Thanks for agreeing! big grin
No problem.


Yeah, I just think it's really unnecessary to promote homosexuality in this kind of fashion. It's appalling.

The Phantom
Originally posted by Nickey
no2 I'm not gonna start anything like usually do this time.

No offense, but J.K. Rowling would never put that stuff in a children's book. It's not appropriate for kids our age. I mean, it's true we all know about it, but that doesn't mean it has to be everywhere you turn. We already know about people being gay. Why ruin such a good book by doing that?

I'm not trying to offended anyone. angel
I'm just saying that it wouldn't be something parents would let their kids read. Some parents don't even want their kids to read Harry Potter books because they think it talks about the devil, and how good he is blah blah blah.
So imagine if J.K. Rowling were to do that, imagine how many disappointed kids there would be. erm




















P.S. I hope no one is offended by my opinion. I don't mean anything by it. Please don't take it as an insult. Thank you! big grin Originally posted by DarkC
Exactly! Simply because we're embracing a newer, radical culture does not mean that gayness should be expressed in anything possible media-wise. Potter books are fine without it. What they said.

Syren
As if homosexuality needs to prove a point, right? Anyone who suggests it should be represented everywhere possible is basically implying that it's not yet socially accepted. Which is rude.

Unicor777
perhaps you ppl should open a separate thread on homosexuality in Harry Potter novels, cause like this you are going completelly out of topic, and you might get some ppl distrurbed. Especially those who are attracted by the title, they come here and see something completely diferent.

Syren
Originally posted by Unicor777
perhaps you ppl should open a separate thread on homosexuality in Harry Potter novels, cause like this you are going completelly out of topic, and you might get some ppl distrurbed. Especially those who are attracted by the title, they come here and see something completely diferent.

Ok, but the title is already suggestive of a discussion regarding homosexuality and Dumbledore/Snape, which this thread is filled with. Why open another thread?

starwarsfreak34
No to the original post. If JK was going to put something as controversial as homosexuality in HP, she would have done it already (as early as PS or CoS) to give people time to get used to it, not throw it in the last book on a whim.

Syren
I think that's what Aqua was suggesting; that Rowling had made subtle hints to a relationship between Dumbledore and Snape from the offset shrug

Unicor777
Ok, to go to the original subject, I don't think that Snape and DD had any relationship, as the title implays. I think that their "relationship" was or is more based on sponsor and assistant ground. They are close. Why? Perhaps because DD is the only one who could see any goodness or human in Snape.

So tthey were not Homos at all. I mean, even if Snape was Homo, why would he have sex with a 150 years old man. He would rather be attracted to the young students or young collegues, then his old headmaster

siriuswriter
I love that this was the first conclusion that you jumped to. He was loved, but he didn't have a daughter therefore he must be a homosexual.

Go read a Snape/Lily theory and get off this ship.

DarkC
Originally posted by siriuswriter
I love that this was the first conclusion that you jumped to. He was loved, but he didn't have a daughter therefore he must be a homosexual.

Go read a Snape/Lily theory and get off this ship.
Yeah, I know.

He had a mother, for Chrissake.

willRules
I think this theory has really no grounds whatsoever sad It's clear that Rowling wishes to portray that Dumbledore trusted Snape with his very life, but don't mistake that for love. Or at least not in the way you are describing. Perhaps love in a father/son, master/student maybe friendship kinda love.

Also someone stated in this thread why didn't Rowling include homosexuality when she includes death and violence without complaints. Well it's kind of obvious.

1) Rowling does receive complaints for the deaths and violence in her stories. Think of the potential backlash she could receive for including homosexuality.
2) The entire genre of the book is a fantasy book with a dark edge to it. Rowling said in an interview that death is an important part of life. Homosexuality isn't an important part of life for many heterosexual people such as myself.

I personally think this theory has no basis on anything from any of the Harry Potter books and no offence to the thread starter but it comes across as a poor attempt to integrate homosexuality into a book when it isn't necessary or even appropriate.

Draco69
Y'all are making it too complicated....

Would Snape REALLY have such bad taste to go after an aging old croon with a dirty long beard and toenails that look like talons?


erm

Nickey
Originally posted by Draco69
Y'all are making it too complicated....

Would Snape REALLY have such bad taste to go after an aging old croon with a dirty long beard and toenails that look like talons?


erm

Maybe he did it to stay out of jail like he said in the sixth book. confused

ndfreak
this theory is one of the worst ones i've evr heard. DD trusts many people with his life like Hagrid and Harry(and i he had a relationship w/ Harry we'd nown already in the book). he also likes to trust the better in people, which mite of been part of the reason he believed snape, and if snape had a relatioship w/ DD he prob would've gotten the DADA job alot sooner. so there no way they were having a relationship and i dont thnk rowling even thought any1 would interpret DD trust for Snape this way.

H. S. 6
Oh shit...

siriuswriter
Originally posted by Nickey
Maybe he did it to stay out of jail like he said in the sixth book. confused

He'd actually get better in jail...


*is waiting for thread to drift to the bottom*

TragicFairyTale
I'm not even going to bother going around in circles with this kid. All i have to say is my opinion and be done with it.

In MY opinion, Dumbledore was never more than a friend to Snape. Yes there was a deep trust but just because two MEN trust each other does NOT mean they are gay. Would the same thing be said about two women?

I'm sorry, but the theory is just completely rediculous in my eyes. There is no evidence to support it and there is no way that J.K. would ever bring something THAT contraversial into her books.

[=Luffyz=]
I say no. =/ That's just sick. .. ... .... ...... .........

Freak.

The Phantom
Originally posted by
I say no. =/ That's just sick. .. ... .... ...... .........

Freak. No member bashing.

[=Luffyz=]
And since when is "freak" bashing? Hmm?

=] roll eyes (sarcastic)

The Phantom
Originally posted by
And since when is "freak" bashing? Hmm?

=] roll eyes (sarcastic) People like different things. Saying anything negative towards someones view on this stuff is bashing.

Nickey
Originally posted by siriuswriter
He'd actually get better in jail...


*is waiting for thread to drift to the bottom*

You're right!hysterical

[=Luffyz=]
I like Snape =[

Dumbledore didn't get THAT lucky,with Filtch? Sure...

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