Luke Cage vs. Rockslide.

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snoopdogg
Fight is in Yokohama Japan.

guy222
Originally posted by snoopdogg
Fight is in Yokohama Japan.

rockslide

guy222
Originally posted by guy222
rockslide

bump

snoopdogg
I'd have to go with Luke Cage on this one. He's got Rockslide beat in all areas imo.

llagrok
Originally posted by snoopdogg
I'd have to go with Luke Cage on this one. He's got Rockslide beat in all areas imo.

no, not really.

Scoobless
Who is Rockslide?

snoopdogg
Originally posted by llagrok
no, not really. What edges does Rockslide have?Originally posted by Scoobless
Who is Rockslide? He's the rock guy from the New-X-Men. He looks like a grey Thing.

http://img359.imageshack.us/my.php?image=newxmenacademyxyearbookma0.jpg

juggernaut74
Didn't Colossus put a beatin' on Rockslide? Without even trying either.

snoopdogg
Originally posted by juggernaut74
Didn't Colossus put a beatin' on Rockslide? Without even trying either. Yea, Colossus was slappin him around commenting on how clumsy he is. He schooled the rest of the New X-Men shortly after.

ExodusCloak
I think this needs to be bumped... erm

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DARKLORDCAEDUS
Cage 5/10

Akuki
I'd give this to Rockslide, as with his new powerup I don't really see a way for Cage to take him out permanently.

llagrok
Originally posted by snoopdogg
Yea, Colossus was slappin him around commenting on how clumsy he is. He schooled the rest of the New X-Men shortly after.

Which is really relevant, seeing as Luke Cage is Colossus. Oh wait, Colossus is over 4 times as strong as Cage eek!

Rockslide.

snoopdogg
So how strong is Rockslide now? He was a level 4 in the handbook.

llagrok
A level 4 is class 100

Alfheim
Im not sure if thats neccesarily going to give him the win. Luke has been fast enough to dodge Savage Hulk all day, he also been able to use dirty tactics to hurt and blind Wonderman (that was before his upgrade).

Eventhough Luke is class 25 it states that due to his durability his punches are harder than other people of the same strength range. Luke I think would probably be a better figher. Im not going to say who wins the majority I just thought I would add this information.

Alfheim
I think this guy is class 100

http://img380.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vsironclad1a1sb.jpg
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Luke beat him pretty easy.

ExodusCloak
Originally posted by snoopdogg
So how strong is Rockslide now? He was a level 4 in the handbook.

His strength increased after he got atomized by Nimrod an assimilated more mass in his Golem Form. It took him Emma and Strong Guy to lift the Blackbird Engine. The Blackbird has been stated to be exactly 300 tons. So I'm not sure what that makes the engine. Emma in not Class 100...Class 50-75...Strong Guy can become Class 100 and Rockslides new Handbook Entry should be out in X-Men: The Messiah Files.
I still can't see how Luke Cage is expected to stop him though. Santo can keep on coming back. He's a psychic entity.
He has some more Limbo Demon fighting feats...I'll add them to the the respect thread when I have time. He's also now able to cause a Rockslide with his body and then reform.

Alfheim
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
His strength increased after he got atomized by Nimrod an assimilated more mass in his Golem Form. It took him Emma and Strong Guy to lift the Blackbird Engine. The Blackbird has been stated to be exactly 300 tons. So I'm not sure what that makes the engine. Emma in not Class 100...Class 50-75...Strong Guy can become Class 100 and Rockslides new Handbook Entry should be out in X-Men: The Messiah Files.
I still can't see how Luke Cage is expected to stop him though. Santo can keep on coming back. He's a psychic entity.
He has some more Limbo Demon fighting feats...I'll add them to the the respect thread when I have time. He's also now able to cause a Rockslide with his body and then reform.

I think that would make Rockslide low class 100 or just slightly under.

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This guy Luke beat has gone toe to toe with Hulk.

ExodusCloak
Originally posted by Alfheim
I think that would make Rockslide low class 100 or just slightly under.

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This guy Luke beat has gone toe to toe with Hulk.

Yeah but Rockslide can keep on coming back, and that's assuming Cage could damage his form.
Point being, Cage will sustain damage after a while, Rockslide just keeps reforming unhurt.

Alfheim
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Yeah but Rockslide can keep on coming back, and that's assuming Cage could damage his form.
Point being, Cage will sustain damage after a while, Rockslide just keeps reforming unhurt.

Hmmm...problem... what if you could pulverise his rocks into dust? I gues im stretching.

ExodusCloak
Originally posted by Alfheim
Hmmm...problem... what if you could pulverise his rocks into dust? I gues im stretching.

Nimrod atomized Santo's form. erm Plus there's plenty of rock/ground in Tokyo.

Alfheim
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Nimrod atomized Santo's form. erm Plus there's plenty of rock/ground in Tokyo.

Ok but how long did it take for him to reform?

ExodusCloak
Originally posted by Alfheim
Ok but how long did it take for him to reform?

He didn't know that he could reform back then so Julian helped him. Currently this is the fasted time he took to reform by himself:

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As long as there is land present...he can reform. Once his Golem Form is destroyed he exists as a psychic entity which floats and can hear and sense the things going in his enviroment.
In Limbo he was able to reform out of the Molten Limbo Rock to become a Fire Golem. So it's still not clear whether or not he needs ground to reform or if he could use other mediums such as water and swamp.
He's sort of like Iceman in the sense that he can keep on coming back once his body has been destroyed...

Alfheim
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
He didn't know that he could reform back then so Julian helped him. Currently this is the fasted time he took to reform by himself:

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/4458/newxmen42dcp0016cs7.th.jpghttp://img102.imageshack.us/img102/8935/newxmen42dcp0017wr5.th.jpg

As long as there is land present...he can reform. Once his Golem Form is destroyed he exists as a psychic entity which floats and can hear and sense the things going in his enviroment.
In Limbo he was able to reform out of the Molten Limbo Rock to become a Fire Golem. So it's still not clear whether or not he needs ground to reform or if he could use other mediums such as water and swamp.
He's sort of like Iceman in the sense that he can keep on coming back once his body has been destroyed...

....damn....the only way Luke could win is by throwing him a long distance...stretching again I guess.

snoopdogg
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
His strength increased after he got atomized by Nimrod an assimilated more mass in his Golem Form. It took him Emma and Strong Guy to lift the Blackbird Engine. The Blackbird has been stated to be exactly 300 tons. So I'm not sure what that makes the engine. Emma in not Class 100...Class 50-75...Strong Guy can become Class 100 and Rockslides new Handbook Entry should be out in X-Men: The Messiah Files.
I still can't see how Luke Cage is expected to stop him though. Santo can keep on coming back. He's a psychic entity.
He has some more Limbo Demon fighting feats...I'll add them to the the respect thread when I have time. He's also now able to cause a Rockslide with his body and then reform. I need to ask a few questions here.

1. Where was is stated Rockslide stronger than before?
2. Where was it stated the Blackbird weighs 300 tons?

snoopdogg
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
I think this needs to be bumped... erm

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/4458/newxmen42dcp0016cs7.th.jpghttp://img102.imageshack.us/img102/8935/newxmen42dcp0017wr5.th.jpg That could be a feat for Colossus too I think. I might put that in his respect thread.Originally posted by llagrok
A level 4 is class 100 No it's not. Level 4 is 800lbs. to 25 tons. So 25 tons would be his max.

Alfheim
Originally posted by snoopdogg
That could be a feat for Colossus too I think. I might put that in his respect thread. No it's not. Level 4 is 800lbs. to 25 tons. So 25 tons would be his max.

Bah Luke could fight that guy all week. What if Luke were to break bits off and the throw them a hundred miles?

llagrok
Originally posted by snoopdogg
I need to ask a few questions here.

1. Where was is stated Rockslide stronger than before?
2. Where was it stated the Blackbird weighs 300 tons?

Why is Exodus being forced to prove how Rockslide would beat Luke Cage?

- Any idiot who's read more than 1 issue of the recent new x-men comics knows that Rockslide would win.
- How do you reckon Cage can beat someone who can explode and reform at will?

Alfheim
Originally posted by llagrok
Why is Exodus being forced to prove how Rockslide would beat Luke Cage?

- Any idiot who's read more than 1 issue of the recent new x-men comics knows that Rockslide would win.
- How do you reckon Cage can beat someone who can explode and reform at will?

Throw them very far away. *shrug* thats the only thing i Can think or what if he breaks bits off and throw them away, can he reform from other rocks or does he need his own body pieces to do it?

snoopdogg
Originally posted by llagrok
Why is Exodus being forced to prove how Rockslide would beat Luke Cage?

- Any idiot who's read more than 1 issue of the recent new x-men comics knows that Rockslide would win.
- How do you reckon Cage can beat someone who can explode and reform at will? I asked some questions that I bet he don't have answers for. I don't care who wins the fight, I might back Santo also.

llagrok
Alfheim, seeing as he's a psychic entity, I'd say anything.

From what we've seen, he doesn't need anything but rock or dirt.

Alfheim
Originally posted by llagrok
Alfheim, seeing as he's a psychic entity, I'd say anything.

From what we've seen, he doesn't need anything but rock or dirt.

Yeah I understand that but what im saying is this. In the scans it says "feel the earth and pull yourself togther" what if he didnt have all his bits...for example his leg was ripped off and thrown away.

It could be argued if he didnt have all his bits he might not be able to do it.

Dont get me wrong he most likely wins but im just trying to see if their is a loophole.

ExodusCloak
Originally posted by snoopdogg
I need to ask a few questions here.

1. Where was is stated Rockslide stronger than before?

Sorry for the late reply, got back from College....after being incinerated by Nimrod it stated that he assimilated more mass IIRC...and thus his showings in Limbo and in WWH: X-Men far outclass 25 tons. erm I'll go scan those scans for you.
That and the Messiah Files should be out soon..and I'll put money that they'd update his profile since he recent quite a few upgrades recently.



Turns out the Storm respect thread is useful for something.

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snoopdogg
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Sorry for the late reply, got back from College....after being incinerated by Nimrod it stated that he assimilated more mass IIRC...and thus his showings in Limbo and in WWH: X-Men far outclass 25 tons. erm I'll go scan those scans for you.
That and the Messiah Files should be out soon..and I'll put money that they'd update his profile since he recent quite a few upgrades recently.



Turns out the Storm respect thread is useful for something.

http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/5328/xmenunlimited0116lx3.jpg Well we'll have to wait and see. As far as I know it's never been official yet he's stronger.

And I didn't know the X-Jet weighs 300 tons. That means this Colossus feat is even more impressive than I thought!

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Colossus/ColossusliftingX-jet_2.jpg

ExodusCloak
Originally posted by snoopdogg
Well we'll have to wait and see. As far as I know it's never been official yet he's stronger.

And I didn't know the X-Jet weighs 300 tons. That means this Colossus feat is even more impressive than I thought!

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Colossus/ColossusliftingX-jet_2.jpg

Nope you're right they haven't officially said he was stronger. But his mass increased and so have the magnitude of his feats.
The Messiah Files will be out in December so we can see then.

BTW That is a pretty impressive feat.
Originally posted by Alfheim
Throw them very far away. *shrug* thats the only thing i Can think or what if he breaks bits off and throw them away, can he reform from other rocks or does he need his own body pieces to do it?

He can reform from other rocks. erm

Originally posted by Alfheim
Yeah I understand that but what im saying is this. In the scans it says "feel the earth and pull yourself togther" what if he didnt have all his bits...for example his leg was ripped off and thrown away.

It could be argued if he didnt have all his bits he might not be able to do it.

Dont get me wrong he most likely wins but im just trying to see if their is a loophole.

Even before he knew how to reform himself, Hulk chucked his arms to Jersey. erm And he had his arms at the end of the issue.

Battlehammer
the jet ways 300 tons? I doubt that since it made of plastic if I recall correctly

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