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anti monitor with tech and one day prep

Originally posted by qqqqqqq
anti monitor with tech and one day prep

Celestials

Off topic, u know comics. Give u 10/10

Spite thread? Anti-Monitor way over the whole Celestial host.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Spite thread? Anti-Monitor way over the whole Celestial host.

Celestials have imprisioned many a foe. One Celestial helped Living Tribunal. Staying with so many Celestials

Anti-Moniter >>>>>>>>>>> Eternity who created the celestails>>>>>>>>>>>>Celestails.

Anti-Monitor=Spectre

The story line with scathan was horrible, I wouldn't go by that at all.

Originally posted by the Darkone
Anti-Moniter >>>>>>>>>>> Eternity who created the celestails>>>>>>>>>>>>Celestails.

Anti-Monitor=Spectre

The story line with scathan was horrible, I wouldn't go by that at all.

U get a 10/10 for a good debate w/me. Celestials win. How about Celestials and Anti Monitor team?

I like Scathan. Rather intrigued me. Celestials are older, the potential they have is unrivaled. No one besides Living Tribunal and Eternity can defeat them.

Celestaisl get a$$ raped. Are you trying to say the Celestails are greater than Spectre you are going to need some serious mental help. Only beings that would kill Anti-Monitor would be, Specter,LT, Pre-Beyonder, Parallax,Ion, Luicfer, Michael, Heart of the Universe there could be more. And Celestails are not on list.

Originally posted by the Darkone
Celestaisl get a$$ raped. Are you trying to say the Celestails are greater than Spectre you are going to need some serious mental help. Only beings that would kill Anti-Monitor would be, Specter,LT, Pre-Beyonder, Parallax,Ion, Luicfer, Michael, Heart of the Universe there could be more. And Celestails are not on list.

Did i say what? And they aren't on what list. Beyonder is dead. Parallax been retconned. Morningstar, is he still around. My fav. HOTI. U do know, that doesn't exist either. I am saying this, Celestials win. Celestials are powerful. Mental help, I am not Anna Nicole Smith. I have already said Living Tribunal=Spectre.

You will have to be on LT/Spectre level to beat Anti-Monitor, and the Celestails are not on that level, that wouldn't get pass Eternity,Infinity,Death,Oblivion, FP Galactus,Abraxas,the seven friendlys, Kismet, etc the Celestails are not on that level at all, they are pretty max out at the state they are, they are at the same level as a normal Galactus, and Galatcus can go beyond his normal powers and it has been shown.

The most powerful Celestail Exitar even he would get smited down like a tin can, like the Celestail also but they are not beating top cosmic being at all. That's like a Full powered Spectre vs All the Celestails, and that alone crubstomp for the Wrath of God.

anti monitor drops a couple pocket-versus on his head

Originally posted by the Darkone
You will have to be on LT/Spectre level to beat Anti-Monitor, and the Celestails are not on that level, that wouldn't get pass Eternity,Infinity,Death,Oblivion, FP Galactus,Abraxas,the seven friendlys, Kismet, etc the Celestails are not on that level at all, they are pretty max out at the state they are, they are at the same level as a normal Galactus, and Galatcus can go beyond his normal powers and it has been shown.

The most powerful Celestail Exitar even he would get smited down like a tin can, like the Celestail also but they are not beating top cosmic being at all. That's like a Full powered Spectre vs All the Celestails, and that alone crubstomp for the Wrath of God.

Scathan the Approver has helped Tribunal. Didn't Eclipso make Spectre go nuts? Eternity/Infinity, well they job as much as Galactus. I won't laugh at the FP Galactus. Is Oblivion really above Death? Abraxas only lives if Galactus dies. Is Galactus 616 dying? Kismet(DC)=Eternity, I agree with that. Exitar gets the code from Arishem. That's a fact. Arishem>Exitar. Galactus goes past what level. Not consuming Tiamut, and now he's afraid. Do u remember liike I do, when Watcher/Galactus summoned Eternity? Before u tell me about the UN or that silly scan in Earth X. Remember this, if he actually 'killed' them. They have obviously returned. U like Anti-Monitor good choice. I am not wavering

wow LT needing help from a celestial........you call that a high thing for celestials i call it jobbing, you talk about how the dreaming celestial is power incarnate or whatever didnt galactus kill him once, anyway anti monitor can probably kill many eternities, and what does spectre going crazy have to do with anything, dont tell me you think spectre would lose to the celestials cause. Your not waving, wow ok thats sad, antimonitor who destroyed many a universe, making the multiverse just that much less infinite, and yet you think the celestials are so powerful.

Originally posted by Mider999
wow LT needing help from a celestial........you call that a high thing for celestials i call it jobbing, you talk about how the dreaming celestial is power incarnate or whatever didnt galactus kill him once, anyway anti monitor can probably kill many eternities, and what does spectre going crazy have to do with anything, dont tell me you think spectre would lose to the celestials cause. Your not waving, wow ok thats sad, antimonitor who destroyed many a universe, making the multiverse just that much less infinite, and yet you think the celestials are so powerful.

In a good mood. Don't change it. U like the Anti-Monitor. That's good. Galactus killed who. Tiamut. Did u read Eternals #6. I am not goin to keep proving point after point. Others do that. Choose a winner. I am happy for u. My choice for the thread will be is Celestials. U differ, that's fine

anti-monitor stomps on him dude, sorry..

Originally posted by Jax_Jax
anti-monitor stomps on him dude, sorry..




did i finally lose

Celestials win by default, dude

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anti-monitor would literaaly suck them all up into pocket universes dude.

no way are celestials standing a chance against anti-monitor

Originally posted by Jax_Jax
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anti-monitor would literaaly suck them all up into pocket universes dude.

no way are celestials standing a chance against anti-monitor

I sleep lil. Good choice. Staying w/Celestials. They win by default. Let me know when the Anti Monitor returns.

Originally posted by guy222
Scathan the Approver has helped Tribunal. Didn't Eclipso make Spectre go nuts? Eternity/Infinity, well they job as much as Galactus. I won't laugh at the FP Galactus. Is Oblivion really above Death? Abraxas only lives if Galactus dies. Is Galactus 616 dying? Kismet(DC)=Eternity, I agree with that. Exitar gets the code from Arishem. That's a fact. Arishem>Exitar. Galactus goes past what level. Not consuming Tiamut, and now he's afraid. Do u remember liike I do, when Watcher/Galactus summoned Eternity? Before u tell me about the UN or that silly scan in Earth X. Remember this, if he actually 'killed' them. They have obviously returned. U like Anti-Monitor good choice. I am not wavering


Exitar> Arishem it's been stated in comics. You are going by scathan the celestail which is consider one of the worst PIS stories. This really does show your lack of comic book knowledge. FF337-341 absorbed The Dreaming Celestail, writers especailly good ones are not 100% accurate. Eternity even stated the Galactus at his FP is his equal.

Originally posted by the Darkone
Exitar> Arishem it's been stated in comics. You are going by scathan the celestail which is consider one of the worst PIS stories. This really does show your lack of comic book knowledge. FF337-341 absorbed The Dreaming Celestail, writers especailly good ones are not 100% accurate. Eternity even stated the Galactus at his FP is his equal.

good mornin. i know about exitar/arishem. twice when exitar arrives, he gets the code from arishem. so many stories are pis, i agree with that. u can't deny a celestial or celestials power. ff #400 was pis. i know about the issues u list. galactus appears to 'kill' tiamut. did he. no. who has returned tiamut. that's a fact. i appreciate the sincerity u have for galactus. i do the same for tribunal. eternity makes claims as well. i ask u this if galactus equals eternity, do u think eternity or tribunal will stand by and watch galactus start a new big bang. no. he couldn't stop hunger, he didn't even know about the immortal ka stone. all i have said is a celestial is powerful. celestials appear to be ommipotent.

Bump.
AM

Man, I feel sorry for Guy after reading some of the garbage posted here.

Celestials crush AM.

Versus all of them?

Even at Sin Corp levels, he has one day to start up the wave again. Marvel universe dies.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Even at Sin Corp levels, he has one day to start up the wave again. Marvel universe dies.
Read the forum rules. Starting up the AM wave would count as an attack, and isn't allowed during prep time.

Really? It looks to me like he can feed on positive matter and get the wave going, then unleash it at the end of prep.

Or failing that, set up his shadow demons and use them for a distraction. Then fire the wave.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Read the forum rules. Starting up the AM wave would count as an attack, and isn't allowed during prep time.

So,
AM wouldn't be allowed to formulate his signature attack and unleash it given one day of prep time? I'm not going to read the rules, I call bullshit.

Pretty sure starting an attack during prep time is against prep time rules...

Originally posted by Enyalus
Pretty sure starting an attack during prep time is against prep time rules...
Who says it has to be started during the prep? AM has shown that he can spontaneously generate anti-matter even in his less powerful SC incarnation.

Originally posted by tsscls
Who says it has to be started during the prep? AM has shown that he can spontaneously generate anti-matter even in his less powerful SC incarnation.
I was responding to Trick's post.

Dude has a point. But for the record, he was drastically weakened in SC and needed time to start the wave up and regain his full power.

AM needs to be able to use the Wave or he's screwed in this fight. He doesn't have the firepower at SC levels to win without it.

Could have him at COIE levels and he's still not beating the entire Celestial race. One Host alone beat and imprisoned the Goblin Force. And Tiamut practically solo'd The Horde.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Dude has a point. But for the record, he was drastically weakened in SC and needed time to start the wave up and regain his full power.

AM needs to be able to use the Wave or he's screwed in this fight. He doesn't have the firepower at SC levels to win without it.
That's not the way I remember it. He was in the harbor and, boom, anti-matter. Him being weakend was mentioned after the fact by SBP.

CoIE wins.

SC loses.

................You think they can stop him at COIE levels? That's outrageous. The entire host combined doesn't have the feats to stop him.

I don't consider Phoenix Force or the Goblin Force to be capable of stopping AM at his height. Nothing less than LT would have a chance.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
................You think they can stop him at COIE levels? That's outrageous. The entire host combined doesn't have the feats to stop him.

I don't consider Phoenix Force or the Goblin Force to be capable of stopping AM at his height. Nothing less than LT would have a chance.

And if you consider PC Spectre=LT, then it's already been done.

Phoenix Force was eaten by the Goblin Force. So was Galactus. Easily. It looked like GEB doing the shit it did, then one Celestial host stopped it. And The Horde are equal to the Celestials, apparently. Yet Tiamut (basically) took them all out solo.

And there are billions of Celestials, that exist simultaneously throughout time and space. All coordinated with multiversal capabilities as shown in GOTG, etc. Any AM loses against the whole race.

Originally posted by tsscls
And if you consider PC Spectre=LT, then it's already been done. He's not.

Originally posted by tsscls
And if you consider PC Spectre=LT.

No.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Man, I feel sorry for Guy after reading some of the garbage posted here.

Celestials crush AM.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
No.

no to your no. If you read some of those PC spectre stories, he has some crazy feats.

That's great.

Nothing compared to the LT though, sorry.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
................You think they can stop him at COIE levels? That's outrageous. The entire host combined doesn't have the feats to stop him.

I don't consider Phoenix Force or the Goblin Force to be capable of stopping AM at his height. Nothing less than LT would have a chance.

there are more Celstials then just the ones in the various hosts

If it's COIE Anti Monitor he obliterates them.

Yo.

AM eats the universe w/the Celestials still in it; AM FTW.





Tazer

AM vs all the Celestials? I don't think he can do it? Even with prep, it would be tough. How many Celestials are there?

Originally posted by xJLxKing
How many Celestials are there?
All we know is that there are 'billions.' A more approximate number was never given. And each one is easily stronger than the strongest skyfather, so probably abstract level.

AM isn't beating billions of abstracts at the same time. Even in COIE incarnation. Not unless he's wearing the Infinity Gauntlet or something.

Originally posted by Enyalus
All we know is that there are 'billions.' A more approximate number was never given. And each one is easily stronger than the strongest skyfather, so probably abstract level.

AM isn't beating billions of abstracts at the same time. Even in COIE incarnation. Not unless he's wearing the Infinity Gauntlet or something.
With a days prep he might a kill a nice amount but yeah I don't see him killing billions.

Edit.

You can't kill a Celestial.

Tiamut said that. And he would know. And as far as bodily/armor injuries, just look at what happened when Destroyer Odin used the Odinsword to cut off a Celestial's arm: immediate regeneration of that limb.

Which is pretty consistent with what Godstalker has done with Celestial armor and what Stellaris did with living Celestial Armor.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Edit.
But didn't Thanos kill one? Galactus said it

Originally posted by xJLxKing
But didn't Thanos kill one? Galactus said it
Thanos killed one/two with the HOTI powerup. And Galactus was literally stunned.

HOTI made Thanos the in-universe TOAA. So, that really doesn't even count.

Originally posted by Enyalus
You can't kill a Celestial.

Tiamut said that. And he would know. And as far as bodily/armor injuries, just look at what happened when Destroyer Odin used the Odinsword to cut off a Celestial's arm: immediate regeneration of that limb.

Which is pretty consistent with what Godstalker has done with Celestial armor and what Stellaris did with living Celestial Armor.
wait havnt some died before, or do they ascend and leave those bodys behind?

Originally posted by jalek moye
wait havnt some died before, or do they ascend and leave those bodys behind?
We've got one severed Celestial head used as Knowhere in GOTG, and apparently either the same or another lobotomized Celestial that gave High Evolutionary the tech and knowledge to restore Magneto's true powers after he was depowered.

That's all I know of...off hand.

so how did that happen if they can't be killed. Or can only the host members not be killed?

Originally posted by jalek moye
so how did that happen if they can't be killed. Or can only the host members not be killed?
I already admitted that two were killed by Thanos when he was wielding the Heart of the Universe. IIRC, one of Thanos' blasts literally decapitated the Celestial. So that could be where they got the big floating head from.

Err, but anyway, the one in GOTG, used for Knowhere? It came back to life last issue. So, maybe they're immortal in the truest sense of the word.

Indeed they are

The Brothers who wrote the last issue

Sort of a retcon to Starlin's nonsense Marvel: The End

Tiamut would know. Tiamut has made stars, sings a death song that turns back time almost 14 billion years. He's with the Fulcrum now. Who or what the Fulcrum is. No one knows

IMHO....A-M isn't defeating the entire race

Originally posted by guy222
Indeed they are

The Brothers who wrote the last issue

Sort of a retcon to Starlin's nonsense Marvel: The End

Tiamut would know. Tiamut has made stars, sings a death song that turns back time almost 14 billion years. He's with the Fulcrum now. Who or what the Fulcrum is. No one knows

IMHO....A-M isn't defeating the entire race How did the bro's kinda retcon The End? and how is it nonsense.

Yo.

Originally posted by Enyalus
You can't kill a Celestial.

Tiamut said that. And he would know. And as far as bodily/armor injuries, just look at what happened when Destroyer Odin used the Odinsword to cut off a Celestial's arm: immediate regeneration of that limb.

Which is pretty consistent with what Godstalker has done with Celestial armor and what Stellaris did with living Celestial Armor.

I seem to recall Thor doing quite a bit more dmg than that when he went after one.......




Tazer

Originally posted by guy222
Indeed they are

The Brothers who wrote the last issue

Sort of a retcon to Starlin's nonsense Marvel: The End

Tiamut would know. Tiamut has made stars, sings a death song that turns back time almost 14 billion years. He's with the Fulcrum now. Who or what the Fulcrum is. No one knows

IMHO....A-M isn't defeating the entire race

Your saying a TOAA in universe power weilding Thanos shouldn't be able to complete erase or obliterate a Celestial. In other words your saying TOAA couldn't do that because they "can't die" By most means and by most people sure that is true. However, when met with the appropriate power that has been shown to be untrue and is completly logical. That is of course if your claiming the Celestials existence is immune and above any action by TOAA...

I didn't say that friend

In Starlin's The End....Thanos weilding the HOTI destroys Ziran

In the Brothers tale, they state a Celestial cannot be destroyed. Only contained

All writers write wat they want

Yeah the AM can't beat all of them

The only Celestials that's ever truly been killed on panel was Ziran in Marvel: The End. Knowhere is still alive, Sue only destroyed Exitars suit. One of the ideas behind the Celestials is that what you see isn't truly them. They wear space suits when they interact with physical beings.

Tiamuts words are the latest we have and he says Celestials can't truly be killed, only put to sleep.

Originally posted by Tazer
Yo.



I seem to recall Thor doing quite a bit more dmg than that when he went after one.......




Tazer
If you'll recall, it didn't deter Exitar in the least. Didn't even cause him to move. And when Thor became too much of a nuisance to him, he BFR'd him out of his domepiece with ease, then engineered a genetically perfect Thor duplicate.

Thor was never more than an annoyance to Exitar.

I think Anti-Monitor can beat em all.

Originally posted by chunjacktao
I think Anti-Monitor can beat em all.

I'm not sure I agree to that.

The best Scathan has to offer, on panel is an area blast. Gives a thumbs down, then about 10-15 pages later after coming back from a side story, the lt says that order has just been restored...

Some people here assume that scathan was alone in his defeat of the protege... since it was all off panel.

I'm the kind of guy that'll say... off panel... we have NO idea what actually happened, so you have no true feat for scathan's strength...

BTW scathan wasn't the only person knocking down protege. in the comic we also have the hawkgod knocking down protege earlier in that comic... so on panel it isn't that big a deal to me. Scathan is not depicted on panel as stronger than any other celestial

the only person, on panel, who couldn't do even phase protege, was vance... so... yah.

If i had to take billions of celestials... guys that freaking throw planets as weapons... i think that at their power level they could eventually weaken and defeat antimonitor... but its by sheer numbers that they win.

I'm pretty sure there was a What If? where Doom had the IG and he managed to defeat the entire Celestial race after something like 100,000 years of combat. I think the AM right after absorbing his universe but before he was weakened could probably do a number on the Celestials but I don't think he could beat them all, at least not at once. I don't think it would take as long as Doom took though.

Originally posted by rotiart
I'm not sure I agree to that.

The best Scathan has to offer, on panel is an area blast. Gives a thumbs down, then about 10-15 pages later after coming back from a side story, the lt says that order has just been restored...

Some people here assume that scathan was alone in his defeat of the protege... since it was all off panel.

I'm the kind of guy that'll say... off panel... we have NO idea what actually happened, so you have no true feat for scathan's strength...

BTW scathan wasn't the only person knocking down protege. in the comic we also have the hawkgod knocking down protege earlier in that comic... so on panel it isn't that big a deal to me. Scathan is not depicted on panel as stronger than any other celestial

the only person, on panel, who couldn't do even phase protege, was vance... so... yah.

If i had to take billions of celestials... guys that freaking throw planets as weapons... i think that at their power level they could eventually weaken and defeat antimonitor... but its by sheer numbers that they win.
It wasn't off panel but it really should have been. Scathan used an energy muzzle to somehow stop Protege from using the LT's power. It was really shitty writing and I really wish people would stop giving it any credence.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
I'm pretty sure there was a What If? where Doom had the IG and he managed to defeat the entire Celestial race after something like 100,000 years of combat. I think the AM right after absorbing his universe but before he was weakened could probably do a number on the Celestials but I don't think he could beat them all, at least not at once. I don't think it would take as long as Doom took though.

In that what if, Doom kept the Beyonder's power and gained the Gauntlet as well. He depleted all the Gauntlet's power and most of the Beyonder's in that fight tho.

AM can kill alot, but I doubt all of them

Originally posted by Omega Vision
It wasn't off panel but it really should have been. Scathan used an energy muzzle to somehow stop Protege from using the LT's power. It was really shitty writing and I really wish people would stop giving it any credence.


Scathan encased the protege in a Celestial Energy Muzzle. He can see nothing of what transpires. But we have been granted leave to observe this all encompassing cosmic spectacle. Beginning with the verdict of the starhawks.

All anyone has verified is that protege cannot see what is going on. but that the humans were allowed to see what is going on.

http://i639.photobucket.com/albums/uu111/Rotiart26/Scathan/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy50-21.jpg
http://i639.photobucket.com/albums/uu111/Rotiart26/Scathan/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy50-22.jpg
http://i639.photobucket.com/albums/uu111/Rotiart26/Scathan/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy50-23.jpg
http://i639.photobucket.com/albums/uu111/Rotiart26/Scathan/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy50-24.jpg
http://i639.photobucket.com/albums/uu111/Rotiart26/Scathan/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy50-25.jpg

Its assumed that when protege had 3 heads he was on par with LT or TOAA... but the child has no idea of the power levels he actually has. In this display he though he was strong enough to destroy Eternity... See how wrong he is.
http://i639.photobucket.com/albums/uu111/Rotiart26/Scathan/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy47-13.jpg
http://i639.photobucket.com/albums/uu111/Rotiart26/Scathan/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy47-14.jpg

All these comments of how Protege was Lts equal or greater than LT... so Scathan defeating Protege is some huge feat... are reliant on a child's statements of his power level. At best, Lt scolds Protege as if he was some child. And asks the child to stop before he loses his soul. When LT faced off against
http://i639.photobucket.com/albums/uu111/Rotiart26/Scathan/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy50-10.jpg
http://i639.photobucket.com/albums/uu111/Rotiart26/Scathan/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy50-11.jpg

Was it really Scathan that restored order...
When was another time order was restored in the white room.. when adam warlock went nuts... and what does LT say then also...:
http://i639.photobucket.com/albums/uu111/Rotiart26/Scathan/WarlockInfinityWatch01-07.jpg
http://i639.photobucket.com/albums/uu111/Rotiart26/Scathan/WarlockInfinityWatch01-08.jpg

CoiE AM wins

SC AM loses

But with Guys blessing even CoiE stands no chance. Celestials, win.

Supergirl kind a rocked AM for a bit. Nothing to do with the thread...just um saying.

I've put mutants on a backburner lately. Does Magneto actually have his powers back? I thought it was just the suit and that got wrecked. Yep I'm behind.

Wasn't there a certain cube being that beat the shit out of a bunch of celestials?

A bunch of reeds scared off celestials in ff4 472.... The council of reeds used weapons brought back by 616 reed to scare them off...

Sething about how the weapons were designed to punch through armor and drain certain energies.

I'm not sure about the cube being reference is that during the thanos series? If so I can find te issues later

Originally posted by rotiart
I'm not sure about the cube being reference is that during the thanos series? If so I can find te issues later No he is probably talking about the Guardians of the Galaxy incident.

Original guardians or current?

In the future gotg wasn't there only one cube left? I have almost the entire original series so I'll take a look when I ge home if my gf let's me.

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
In that what if, Doom kept the Beyonder's power and gained the Gauntlet as well. He depleted all the Gauntlet's power and most of the Beyonder's in that fight tho.

I don't think the infinity gems were accurately portrayed in that "What if".

Depleted the infinity gems? really?

~NECRO-BUMP~


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