Pre-Crisis Superman vs Champion/No Jobber/Power Gem/Power Primodial

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golem370
Who wins? Champion has his power Primodial and full use of the power gem. This is a none jobber Champion believe it or not he had a good showing.

Champion- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Champion_of_the_Universe & Power Gem- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinity_Gems & Power Primordial- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_Primordial

Galan007
Achewww


ftw. wink

golem370
Huh? laughing out loud

Galan007
Achewww:
http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/1384/pctr7.th.jpg

ftw.

golem370
You really don't think somebody who's been around for 5.5 billion years couldn't take that. Champion got tackled by Thor Wonder Man Namor the Sub-Mariner Thing Hulk Colossus and by using his power primordial blew with off his like fleas and he didn't even have the Power Gem then.

Galan007
Originally posted by golem370
You really don't think somebody who's been around for 5.5 billion years couldn't take that. Champion got tackled by Thor Wonder Man Namor the Sub-Mariner Thing Hulk Colossus and by using his power primordial blew with off his like fleas and he didn't even have the Power Gem then. Champion was tore up, and severely weakened after he survived a planet being destroyed, (and this is when he had the Power Gem).

A force that easily destroyed a Solar Systems worth of planets directed solely at Champ, would be more then enough to take him out.

golem370
Death decreed the Elders could not die. He is no slouch ether.Also Champion controlls the Power Primordial the energy derived from the big bang

Galan007
Originally posted by golem370
Death decreed the Elders could not die. He is no slouch ether.Also Champion controlls the Power Primordial the energy derived from the big bang You don't have to kill someone to beat them.

Champ was greatly weakend (with the Power Gem) after surviving Planetary destruction.

A Solar-System destroying force should be sufficient enough to win.

If not, then Champ would be so injured, that a few more punches would end it for sure.

golem370
His is also The Champion with full use of the Power Gem. With millions of years to fight and become physically perfect.

Galan007
Originally posted by golem370
His is also The Champion with full use of the Power Gem. With millions of years to fight and become physically perfect. He was still greatly injured from planetary destruction.

Multi-planetary destruction would be enough to bring him very close to defeat.

golem370
That was a jobbing BS story. He is not jobbing here this is him at his best.

Galan007
Originally posted by golem370
That was a jobbing BS story. He is not jobbing here this is him at his best. Jobbing has nothing to do with what I said.

He was severely weakend from a force he exerted, which was enough to destroy a single planet.

PC Supes could easily direct a MUCH greater force straight at him.

golem370
Champion was cracking Thano's shield the same shield that took Galactus a bit of effort.

Galan007
Originally posted by golem370
Champion was cracking Thano's shield the same shield that took Galactus a bit of effort. Thanos's forcefield means nothing here.


Again:
Originally posted by Galan007
Champ was greatly weakend (with the Power Gem) after surviving Planetary destruction.

A Solar-System destroying force should be sufficient enough to win.

If not, then Champ would be so injured, that a few more punches would end it for sure.

golem370
It does mean something. It means Champion is vastly strong immortal experienced and the power primodial.

Galan007
Ok, I'm done right there.

There's no point arguing with you any further.

golem370
Hulk was able to go toe to toe with PC Superman and Champion is more versatile

golem370
If you can't bring anything to this augment then your right.

Galan007
Originally posted by golem370
If you can't bring anything to this augment then your right. I brought more then enough facts, and actual pannel evidence.

All you said is "champion has million of years of fighting experience"

Your very marvel biased. Once you realize this, you will be a happier person.

golem370
Your talking about one time and thats all.

golem370
Champion is a great fighter one of the strongest Marvel none God characters he is immortal he survived being devourered by Galactus.

Galan007
Originally posted by golem370
Your talking about one time and thats all. That was one point.

I didn't even bring up the fact the Supes could time-travel on a whim, to go back in time to defeat Champ.

golem370
Champion is immortal. Can Superman time travel that far back to the beginning of the Universe? I am glad that Superman can't never win normal ways he has to do something so extreme like time travel 5.5 billion years back to win.

Symmetric Chaos
PreCrisis? Yeah probably.

Galan007
Originally posted by golem370
Champion is immortal and 5.5 billion years ago. Can Superman time travel that far back to the beginning of the Universe? He's already time-traveled million of years into the past, id see no reason why he couldn't go further.

it's a moot point though. Hell, Thanos was getting the best of Champion.

Supes smokes him.

Priest
Almost 2 pages of Golem and Gallan arguing laughing out loud

Galan007
I know, I'm seriously done though.

it's just too much!!!!!

golem370
Thanos tricked Champion into destroying the Planet and with floating in space.

Kutulu
Champion stands no chance of winning this.

point #1) PC Superman starts off about a billion times stronger than Champion. Champion can amp himself up infinitely, but his starting level is going to be too low to resist a full strength attack.
point #2) PC Superman is far too fast for the Champion to deal with. Champion may have the physical ability at some point after amping up enough to win, but he's not going to get that chance, and still can't fly, therefore PC Superman wins.
point #3) PC Superman, if nothing else, has an immense BFR advantage. One sneeze, one superbreath, or one super-shotput toss, and Champion is out in the middle of space with no flight and no way to get back.

MattDay
a point also to note, hulk stood up against pc superman, but did he even hurt him, hitting him everytime, getting stronger trying to knock him back, he didnt even move as hulk was gaining immense strength, superman owns champion in the end.

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