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War Hulk

vs.

Jenny Sparks
Midnighter
Hawksmoor
Apollo
Engineer
Swift


in a abandoned suburb. No electrical current removal from Jenny or Engineer creating a clone to door inside of Hulk's head.

Or using a Door to retreat from battle if things get ugly.

.............


Apollo throws him into the sun...

Hawksmoor turns into the suburbs and eats him...or throws him into the sun

Midnighter duplicates a superbatkick *see the shell kicking scan* and he lands on the sun....

there's alot of reasons this is spite..

Apollo's not strong enough to throw War Hulk into the sun, wtf are you smoking. And if Hawksmoor eats Hulk his stomach would likely explode from him smashing his insides.

*edit*

Slashing and smashing his insides.

Dunno enough about W-Hulk.

Engineer has survived nukes, gotten the better of Cpt. Atom, and created atom-thin forcefield particles to slice people at the atomic level. She's underrated in this fight.

Individually, no, none of them should beat W-Hulk. Working together, it's very possible...a lot might depend on how much Jack can get out of the suburb.

And why is the atom-sized duplicate of Angie banned? That's part of her power set.

...

And the thing is, Jenny and Jack can't be killed by conventional means. So even if the Authority doesn't win, they can't fully lose either. This might just be a stalemate.

Apollo speedblitzes....Jack throws him into orbit....Midnighter....Watches Apollo's booty while his man works......Jenny contatly blasts Hulk..the Vast majority of these guys could take Hulk 1 on 1 in a fight like this,the team is overkill.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Dunno enough about W-Hulk.

Engineer has survived nukes, gotten the better of Cpt. Atom, and created atom-thin forcefield particles to slice people at the atomic level. She's underrated in this fight.

Individually, no, none of them should beat W-Hulk. Working together, it's very possible...a lot might depend on how much Jack can get out of the suburb.

And why is the atom-sized duplicate of Angie banned? That's part of her power set.

...

And the thing is, Jenny and Jack can't be killed by conventional means. So even if the Authority doesn't win, they can't fully lose either. This might just be a stalemate.

Jenny can be killed by conventional means and almost died from a bullet wound in her series (had to be saved by Engineer and keep a journal to remind her). Same with Jack, Midnighter stated he could kill him and I think he did in the fake future timeline

Duplicate Angie isn't banned

Angie creating a dupe to create a door inside of Hulk and walking through causing him to explode is


Trying to keep the cheapness out.

Originally posted by Joey Stacks
Jenny can be killed by conventional means and almost died in her series (had to be saved by Engineer and keep a journal to remind her). Same with Jack, Midnighter stated he could kill him.

Duplicate Angie isn't banned

Angie creating a dupe to create a door inside of Hulk causing him to explode is


Trying to keep the cheapness out.

MN'er fought Jack outside a city though. Jack was crippled and had a shattered spine and healed instantly as soon as he was in a city. Again, not sure what happens in a suburb, but if he retains that, he can merge with the city and Hulk will never see him.

And will "Hulk Smash" kill living electricity? Doubtful. Like I said, it could probably go either way....The Authority would have to work together, especially since their big guns are gone.

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/9068/c0410uv5.th.jpg

doped

Originally posted by DigiMark007
MN'er fought Jack outside a city though. Jack was crippled and had a shattered spine and healed instantly as soon as he was in a city. Again, not sure what happens in a suburb, but if he retains that, he can merge with the city and Hulk will never see him.

And will "Hulk Smash" kill living electricity? Doubtful. Like I said, it could probably go either way....The Authority would have to work together, especially since their big guns are gone.

A shot in the back almost killed living electricity and so did a bunch of arrows (though to Sparks credit they were poisoned), Nazi's and Bendix, I like to believe Hulk smash and slash is far more potent (well maybe not as potent as the Bendix incident).

And I'm sure that if it comes down to Jack being the last man standing there won't be a city left to heal him.

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Originally posted by Joey Stacks
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doped
Funny... Surfer was cut off from the power cosmic...
And while he was trying to thank Hulk, Hulk had to beat on him repeatidly... from behind...

Surfer with actual power though...
http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/3002/story2page035uxdp1.th.jpg
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If he tries to shove his hand into the atomic web it gets diced into atoms.

Blackbolt has fried Hulk with electricity.

Jenny Sparks vs God:
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/402/authority1219mo2.th.jpghttp://img237.imageshack.us/img237/4953/authority1220tn9.th.jpg

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Hmmm celestial tech (aka the Hulk shoving the sword up Engineer's ass) vs. earth tech (Engineer's inferior tech miraculously shredding the sword because it smacked down some jobbers). I wonder which will win

btw (War Hulk celestial amped strength and durability > Hulk)

I wonder what happened after Sparks fried the opponent without a healing factor?


doped


And let's not forget

Hulk was just as weakened as Surfer (who had been there longer to heal up some to boot) so the power scale should be the same

doped

Work on your syntax.

Interatomic knives. Unless the Celestial tech magically has stronger interatomic attractions than other matter, for which you have no proof of, interatomic knives atomize matter.

Fried by Blackbolt. Knockout is a win.

Again for emphasis, the shiftship is the size of a small city. Jenny Sparks vs God:
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/402/authority1219mo2.th.jpghttp://img237.imageshack.us/img237/4953/authority1220tn9.th.jpg

doped

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
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doped

So, what's to stop this happening just as easily to War Hulk?

I've read, own and have the comic underneath my bed, you're just overrating Sparks (who died from the power output as Jenny's in the past have survived for longer then a century).

And remind me what that interatomic material is made from again and what level tech it's up against?

doped

PS: Jenny probably won't even find enough power to generate that much required electricity in an abandoned suburb

Love

Joey

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
So, what's to stop this happening just as easily to War Hulk?

Hulk thunderclaps Hawksmoor causing him a great deal of pain then rips him to pieces.

Jenny died at midnight. Because she was meant to die at midnight. That's the point of the character.

Interatomic material? Work on your syntax and your science.

Originally posted by Joey Stacks
And let's not forget

Hulk was just as weakened as Surfer (who had been there longer to heal up some to boot) so the power scale should be the same
Originally posted by Soljer
Better yet, I'll do it for you, fanboy.

http://img258.imageshack.us/my.php?image=incrediblehulk950100gd.jpg
See that glow? Thats the control disk. He has NO access to the power cosmic. He is weakened and out of it.

http://img258.imageshack.us/my.php?image=incrediblehulk950111rx.jpg
And he sends the Hulk flying with a single hit. Those behind him feel the power of the strike.

http://img258.imageshack.us/my.php?image=incrediblehulk950122qy.jpg
The Hulk grabs hold of the Surfer's arms and NORRIN OVERPOWERS THE HULK, while begging for forgiveness.

http://img399.imageshack.us/my.php?image=incrediblehulk950138zq.jpg
"Give him another pass and we're dead" 'nuff said.

http://img57.imageshack.us/my.php?image=incrediblehulk950148dp.jpg
Hulk sets Norrin free, he stops fighting, THANKS the Hulk, and then the Hulk takes advantage of Norrin's good will with the scan you so happily posted.

Neglecting the fact that the Surfer had just OWNED the Hulk at his OWN GAME just immediately beforehand.

Also:
Originally posted by darthgoober
I realize that you don't really NEED my help against that guy, but here's some stuff to support what your saying(Keep in mind, all of these fights where when Surfer was still weakened from being stranded on Earth).

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/1381/story2page019nj.th.jpg
http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/2499/story2page022ms.th.jpg
http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/2509/story2page035ux.th.jpg
http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/8459/story2page040no.th.jpg
I realize that there's not a lot of action in that last scan, but please note in the upper left hand corner, it talks about Hulk regaining his strength several minutes later, and Surfer isn't really around. So what's that mean you ask? That shot with the surfboard knocked his ass the f*ck out!

Anyway, after Surfer saves Hulk from the army, Hulk decides to be a dumbass again, and attack him....

http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/1005/story2page066gb.th.jpg
http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/6296/story2page072hi.th.jpg
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/4455/story2page086ei.th.jpg
AND HE GOES DOWN AGAIN!

But this is the best one. It's by far the most accurate portrayal of a fight between the two that I've ever seen...
http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/8058/theincrediblehulkv225014mg.th.jpg
http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/8738/theincrediblehulkv225014wf.th.jpg


So yeah....

Silver Surfer>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hulk. Irrelevent though, since Hulk loses.
doped

Originally posted by Joey Stacks
Hulk thunderclaps Hawksmoor causing him a great deal of pain then rips him to pieces.




1. Hulk can't thunderclap a suburb
2. He cant rip it to pieces when he's still dealing with Apollo, Sparks, and the Engineer
3. Hawksmoor can easily catch him by surprise and solidify him with the street.

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
1. Hulk can't thunderclap a suburb
2. He cant rip it to pieces when he's still dealing with Apollo, Sparks, and the Engineer
3. Hawksmoor can easily catch him by surprise and solidify him with the street.

1.) How do you know? Base Hulk has caused blocks worth of damage with a Thunderclap. Celestial Hulk is farrrr more potent.

2.) Who are all equally stunned from the Clap

3.) Just as easily as Hulk catches him off guard and decaps.


BTW I like how people bring up the 70's like feats from then matter.

Originally posted by Joey Stacks
1.) How do you know? Base Hulk has caused blocks worth of damage with a Thunderclap. Celestial Hulk is farrrr more potent.

2.) Who are all equally stunned from the Clap

3.) Just as easily as Hulk catches him off guard and decaps.


BTW I like how people bring up the 70's like feats from then matter.

1) What feats put WH's thunderclap farrrr above normal Hulks? Or is it just the hype that you seem to have grown more attached to?

2) Please. Authority easily has the speed, power and damage advantages. Hulk wont even get a Thunderclap in. And all Hawksmoor needs is a few seconds

3) So Hulk, while being beaten down by three other members of the authority, is going to catch by surprise, and DECAPITATE a SUBURB?

Stop treating this as if Hulk is individually fighting each of them. He's fighting, and will lose to a team.

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
1) What feats put WH's thunderclap farrrr above normal Hulks? Or is it just the hype that you seem to have grown more attached to?

2) Please. Authority easily has the speed, power and damage advantages. Hulk wont even get a Thunderclap in. And all Hawksmoor needs is a few seconds

3) So Hulk, while being beaten down by three other members of the authority, is going to catch by surprise, and DECAPITATE a SUBURB?

Stop treating this as if Hulk is individually fighting each of them. He's fighting, and will lose to a team.

1.) The fact that he was being amped by gamma radiation (think Sundip) the whole time, doo doo brain. Oh and let's see what happens faster, me sinking gradually or clapping my hands....

2.) The only members of the Authority that have speed are

Swift
Apollo

both of which would get manhandled if they tried to rush without cooperating with the rest of their team.

3.) The point was how absurd it was. How's the Hulk going to be caught off guard when he's actively fighting and is a genius in this form?

PS: I'm not the one saying that the two members are going to be able to blitz Hulk while Hawksmoor gains Flash like reaction speed.

love

Joey

Originally posted by Joey Stacks
1.) The fact that he was being amped by gamma radiation (think Sundip) the whole time, doo doo brain. Oh and let's see what happens faster, me sinking gradually or clapping my hands....

2.) The only members of the Authority that have speed are

Swift
Apollo

both of which would get manhandled if they tried to rush without cooperating with the rest of their team.

3.) The point was how absurd it was. How's the Hulk going to be caught off guard when he's actively fighting and is a genius in this form?

PS: I'm not the one saying that the two members are going to be able to blitz Hulk while Hawksmoor gains Flash like reaction speed.

love

Joey

1) Ouch. Doodoo brain. That stings. Anyways, the only concrete upgrades that Hulk got were a swrod, a tentacle, a mask, and an (if possible) increase in hype. Whoop-dee-doo. Was his thunderclap ever shown to have been amped? If so, I'd like to see a scan

Lets look at this mathematically:

In the time that it took 100 foot beings to be merged with the ground, Hawksmoor managed to get in a single, 10s (actually 7, but we'll be gneerous) sentence.

That means they would "gradually" sink 10 feet/s

Thats 0.1s/foot

Hawksmoor only has to merge his hands for a thunderclap to fail. His hands are what, 3 feet above the ground? His arms are pretty long.

Thusly, Hulk would have 0.3 seconds to clap before he loses the match.

That is WHILE being beaten upon by people and attacks much faster then him from an entire other team.

AND he's supposed to thunderclap in 0.3 seconds against an attack that he wont know will be coming.

PLUS Theres no saying whether a thunderclap would even do enough damage to stop Hawksmoor from merging him.

Yeah... Hulk loses.

2)Yes, but there is also Jenny Sparks electricity and Engineer's blades, which move much faster then Hulk's reaction speeds. Not to mention, has WH ever has a decent fight against someone with speed? Did he "manhandle" them?

3) Because he's fighting an entire team. Becuase he can easily be caught off guard by someone who can be whatever part of the environment they wish. Because he's NOT a genius.

Stop being a retard. Hulk was constantly being fed Gamma Radiaton which was constantly amping his strength to levels he's never reached before.


His thunder clap is based on strength, the more strength he has the more potent the clap. Therefore common sense tells us Amped Strength T-Clap > Non Amped Strength T-Clap

(without the brain thing) Jenny Sparks needs time to build up enough electricity before she can even begin to affect Hulk, champ (hello it's an abandoned suburb). Time she won't have with Swift and Apollo being idiots and blitzing a being of brute strength.

Base Hulk has fought Heralds. War Hulk's intelligence is much higher then the standard retard child Hulk therefore one can assume that he'd have a better handle on a blitz. Especially considering Apollo's a hot-headed idiot that'd probably blitz into his fist.

Keep overrating the Authority and especially Hawksmoor champ, it's hilarious.





And, please, stop with the atrocious math, you're scaring the children.

Then at least post strength feats that shows he's superior to normal Hulk. Not that it matters. Because he wont have time for a thunderclap.

It doesn't matter if her attack isn't extremely powerful. Hulk will still be getting shredded into atoms,physically beaten down, and, before he knows it, merged with the asphalt.

Not really. Adults get blitzed all the time in comics. Not to mention, if Hulk takes the time to attempt (and fail) to stop Apollo with his fist, he'll have already been merged with the asphalt.

If he tries to thunderclap, he wont accomplish that in time, not to mention that he'll be constantly distracted by super strong fists pounding into him extremely fast.

If you don't understand the match, I can break it down for you really easily:

Hulk. Will. Get. Pwned.

I swear this board can be so retarded sometimes.

1.) Apollo sucks at high speed fighting and would likely accidentally fly into Hulk's fist (in fact Swift had to teach him some basics that his dumb ass likely forgot) or not use speed at all.

2.) Swift is useless.

3.) What's so hard about Base Hulk being fed Gamma Radiation to heighten his strength and having intelligence that you can't understand

4.) If you've read the comic you'd know that there was no time stated nor height given from the being shrunk into the ground.

5.) Oh, yes, Hawksmoor sure would try merging Hulk into the asphalt knowing that he could very well take Apollo with him. That'd be a riot.

Originally posted by Joey Stacks
Goddamnit, I was wrong again, and pwned because of it.

petpet

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
I would like to get this tattooed on my back so I can be like my heroes, Apollo and Midnighter

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Uh-huh.

So, when you get owned. and have no response, because your precious Hulk will be ground into dust, you resort to poorly executed gay jokes to attempt to cover up what an utter and complete douche you are?

What the hell are you talking about?

Originally posted by Joey Stacks
What the hell are you talking about?

Right then.

Reported.

Moving on...

That is what we call a Smurphtastic pwnage.

Originally posted by Martian_mind
That is what we call a Smurphtastic pwnage.

thankyou

BTW, I believe there's a Power Rangers thread somewhere around here. Aren't you something of an expert?

That's what I call

Remedial Mathmatics

.......Of course not....now i have something to do



*Runs behind bushes*

"MASTODON"

*Leaps off to battle Rita Repulsa*

you misspelled Mathematics

You didn't capitalize you and forgot your period and randomly capitalized mathmatics.

Originally posted by Joey Stacks
That's what I call

Remedial Mathmatics Originally posted by Martian_mind
you misspelled Mathematics Quoted for irony.

Originally posted by Joey Stacks
You didn't capitalize you and forgot your period and randomly capitalized mathmatics.

You still cant spell Mathematics.

True,however unlike you i'm not a pretentious git,walking away now.......

You forgot your apostrophe. And the other guy forgot to capitolize the I in I'm and the comma after however and you.

Damn you people are like a bunch of woman at a mall fighting for the same dress

Originally posted by Joey Stacks
You forgot your apostrophe. And the other guy forgot to capitolize the I in I'm and the comma after however and you.

Weak.

You continuously misspell a word even after being corrected, and then continue to misspell words after that, and will no doubt misspell more words in your next failed attempt to counter this post.

Your rebuttal?

I forgot a comma.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Dunno enough about W-Hulk.

Thats the point, he only apeared in two issues, fan sites like "The Hulk Libarary" and "Incredible Hulk Engine of Destruction" don't even have War Hulk listed as an incarnation.

His biggest feat was stopping the Juggernaut and a wild claim from Apoc, everything else is just pure fan speculation.

But all of a sudden characters who have owned the Hulk in the past (Surfer) can't beat Warhulk cause he is no so much more uber and can beat Galactus with his Celestial tech which consists of a funky whip and a sword.

The whole War Hulk being stronger than Hulk also falls down when Hulk fanboys constantly throw "Infinite strength and Infinite rage" around when they talk about Savage Hulk, how do you get stronger than Infinite?

So people show these "70's" feats of a savage hulk (acknowledged by all hulk fansites as the STRONGEST incarnation) getting beaten and the rebuttal is.

"War Hulk is stronger, he has celestial tech, he can kill Celestials"

Based on what? him stopping a weaker than classic Juggs from moving forward? is this an indication of War Hulk being stronger, or an early indication that Juggernaut was losing power and no longer "Unstopable"

Arguments for both can be made but the second argument holds more water.

And the Celestial thing, need I bring up Stellaris, the "Celestial killer" never mind the fact that she had never killed one, just claimed she could.

Until someone can back that argument up with Hulk actually doing it, its hyperbole and speculation.

"Not knowing enough about Warhulk" as said by Digi, should = cause at the end of the day, no one knows enough about him to make the wild claims that he can take on abstracts or beat up teams who normal Hulk would be turned into paste by.

Originally posted by Hercules
Thats the point, he only apeared in two issues, fan sites like "The Hulk Libarary" and "Incredible Hulk Engine of Destruction" don't even have War Hulk listed as an incarnation.

His biggest feat was stopping the Juggernaut and a wild claim from Apoc, everything else is just pure fan speculation.

But all of a sudden characters who have owned the Hulk in the past (Surfer) can't beat Warhulk cause he is no so much more uber and can beat Galactus with his Celestial tech which consists of a funky whip and a sword.

The whole War Hulk being stronger than Hulk also falls down when Hulk fanboys constantly throw "Infinite strength and Infinite rage" around when they talk about Savage Hulk, how do you get stronger than Infinite?

So people show these "70's" feats of a savage hulk (acknowledged by all hulk fansites as the STRONGEST incarnation) getting beaten and the rebuttal is.

"War Hulk is stronger, he has celestial tech, he can kill Celestials"

Based on what? him stopping a weaker than classic Juggs from moving forward? is this an indication of War Hulk being stronger, or an early indication that Juggernaut was losing power and no longer "Unstopable"

Arguments for both can be made but the second argument holds more water.

And the Celestial thing, need I bring up Stellaris, the "Celestial killer" never mind the fact that she had never killed one, just claimed she could.

Until someone can back that argument up with Hulk actually doing it, its hyperbole and speculation.

"Not knowing enough about Warhulk" as said by Digi, should = cause at the end of the day, no one knows enough about him to make the wild claims that he can take on abstracts or beat up teams who normal Hulk would be turned into paste by. that is an excellent

/thread


edit: and nice pwnage Smurph

Originally posted by Hercules
Thats the point, he only apeared in two issues, fan sites like "The Hulk Libarary" and "Incredible Hulk Engine of Destruction" don't even have War Hulk listed as an incarnation.

His biggest feat was stopping the Juggernaut and a wild claim from Apoc, everything else is just pure fan speculation.

But all of a sudden characters who have owned the Hulk in the past (Surfer) can't beat Warhulk cause he is no so much more uber and can beat Galactus with his Celestial tech which consists of a funky whip and a sword.

The whole War Hulk being stronger than Hulk also falls down when Hulk fanboys constantly throw "Infinite strength and Infinite rage" around when they talk about Savage Hulk, how do you get stronger than Infinite?

So people show these "70's" feats of a savage hulk (acknowledged by all hulk fansites as the STRONGEST incarnation) getting beaten and the rebuttal is.

"War Hulk is stronger, he has celestial tech, he can kill Celestials"

Based on what? him stopping a weaker than classic Juggs from moving forward? is this an indication of War Hulk being stronger, or an early indication that Juggernaut was losing power and no longer "Unstopable"

Arguments for both can be made but the second argument holds more water.

And the Celestial thing, need I bring up Stellaris, the "Celestial killer" never mind the fact that she had never killed one, just claimed she could.

Until someone can back that argument up with Hulk actually doing it, its hyperbole and speculation.

"Not knowing enough about Warhulk" as said by Digi, should = cause at the end of the day, no one knows enough about him to make the wild claims that he can take on abstracts or beat up teams who normal Hulk would be turned into paste by. Awesome!

Also, Destroyer was built to combat Celestials, and he has shown a hell of a lot more than War Hulk, and he got melted down, and his most powerful attack was deflected with a hand.

Originally posted by Joey Stacks
You forgot your apostrophe. And the other guy forgot to capitolize the I in I'm and the comma after however and you.
I think the point was you were implying he was stupid because of his remedial mathematics, then you misspelled the word "mathematics" which backfires your comment.

I've been reading Authority for like a couple of months and I read Hulk comics back in the days. The feats I've seen from the Authority members and considering their full potential I am brave enough to say Authority can take this. Just look at a full charged Apollo or just imagine The Doctor at full power. If we say that they are at their best along with the other members they can take War Hulk.

I wonder. If Digi made his comment in the vs. Doctor thread and just Closed it. Sometimes it is disturbing. Maybe people had some other things to say but nevermind.

Originally posted by Rewmac
I wonder. If Digi made his comment in the vs. Doctor thread and just Closed it. Sometimes it is disturbing. Maybe people had some other things to say but nevermind.

What's disturbing? Me?

Normally I just close stuff, but I had to lay it to rest before I did so there, because not everyone knows that it was created in spite (although the amounts of spam certainly added to that effect).



Anyway....a thunderclap taking out an entire team of people who can survive nukes? Oh, and the bullet only hurt Jenny in human form. We're talking about the Jenny that electrocuted-to-death an alien the size of a continent.

Besides, he's beyond help if he's still labeling this a Hulk curbstomp and displaying out of context feats. Just give it up.

Yeah Midnighter, Sparks, Hawksmoor and Swift survive nukes

okay

Next you're going to tell me that Apollo doesn't easily burn out.

Jenny needs electricity to work with to shift to an electrical form, if she wants to try and tap into all of that non existant electricity in the abandoned suburb she'll find herself without electricity when the power burns out from all of the 2 seconds of power she could likely manage to scrounge up and kill herself.

Good job.

And who said this was a Hulk curbstomp?

And who's the one quoting out of context feats? What with Authority fans making claims that Jenny can electricute Hulk the way she did the Brain, making up random numbers and that the team survives nukes.



*apostrophe. Reading is fundamental, especially when posting on a message board.

WarHulk takes this one eventually.

Authority ftw.

Originally posted by Joey Stacks
Yeah Midnighter, Sparks, Hawksmoor and Swift survive nukes

okay

Next you're going to tell me that Apollo doesn't easily burn out.

Jenny needs electricity to work with to shift to an electrical form, if she wants to try and tap into all of that non existant electricity in the abandoned suburb she'll find herself without electricity when the power burns out from all of the 2 seconds of power she could likely manage to scrounge up and kill herself.

Good job.

And who said this was a Hulk curbstomp?

And who's the one quoting out of context feats? What with Authority fans making claims that Jenny can electricute Hulk the way she did the Brain, making up random numbers and that the team survives nukes.



*apostrophe. Reading is fundamental, especially when posting on a message board.

Well, Angie's survived an A-bomb and wasn't even harmed. Apollo has survived far worse than that. Jack wouldn't need to survive a thunderclap...he'd already have merged with the suburb/city and it will be attacking Hulk en masse.

And when did the suburb become without electricity? Sure, if there's no electricity, she might be in trouble. But that's kinda unfair, isn't it? It would be like putting me into the fight with a cattle prod, then laughing and saying Hulk wins.

war

Originally posted by Hercules
Based on what? him stopping a weaker than classic Juggs from moving forward? is this an indication of War Hulk being stronger, or an early indication that Juggernaut was losing power and no longer "Unstopable"

Juggernaut definitely wasn't weakened. In fact as I recall, his last appearance before he fought War, he had beaten the crap out of Cyttorak. And it wasn't too long after his fight with War that he was possessed by Cyttorak and became Trion Juggernaut.

Originally posted by Accel
Juggernaut definitely wasn't weakened. In fact as I recall, his last appearance before he fought War, he had beaten the crap out of Cyttorak. And it wasn't too long after his fight with War that he was possessed by Cyttorak and became Trion Juggernaut.

Well I remembered it differently but I can accept that, its still the only major feat we have seen from War Hulk.

The rest of my post still stands, we simply do not know enough about War Hulk to make the claims some people are making about him. Stopping the Juggernaut, full powered or not does not = killing celestials.

My main point was and still is, that all this is based on two issues, just two and really no one is sure about the extent of WH's powers.

It isn't up to us to prove that War Hulk can't do these things that have been claimed, its up to the people saying he can to prove that he can.

And the fact is they can't...

Originally posted by DigiMark007
And the thing is, Jenny and Jack can't be killed by conventional means. So even if the Authority doesn't win, they can't fully lose either. This might just be a stalemate.

Jenny was never able to stay in electrical form for very long, Jack could be ... um ... eaten and digested.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Well, Angie's survived an A-bomb and wasn't even harmed. Apollo has survived far worse than that. Jack wouldn't need to survive a thunderclap...he'd already have merged with the suburb/city and it will be attacking Hulk en masse.

And when did the suburb become without electricity? Sure, if there's no electricity, she might be in trouble. But that's kinda unfair, isn't it? It would be like putting me into the fight with a cattle prod, then laughing and saying Hulk wins.




1.) Nobody said anything about a Thunderclap taking the whole team in the first place, just disorrientating it.


Oh and Apollo's (ask Midnighter) and Angie's (without her creating anything to increase their durability or block sound) ear drums are just as human as you and I's, therefore surviving nukes is irrelevant anyway.

2.) I never said there wasn't any electricity, as that'd be making her useless, just that there wasn't much (it being abandoned would mean no electricity though I'm sure there are some back up generators she could tap into which would not be near enough to take down a country sized brain).

It was better on Coruscant.

That thread is closed...

Classic ownage

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
War Hulk

vs.

Jenny Sparks
Midnighter
Hawksmoor
Apollo
Engineer
Swift


in a abandoned suburb. No electrical current removal from Jenny or Engineer creating a clone to door inside of Hulk's head.

Or using a Door to retreat from battle if things get ugly.

WarHulk 10/10. He is a weapon against Celestial. He easy beat Juggernaut and Absorbing Man.

We know, but all that means is Apollo will somehow out muscle him, Hawksmoore will merge him into the ground or some other foolishness.

Originally posted by FearOfBlood
WarHulk 10/10. He is a weapon against Celestial. He easy beat Juggernaut and Absorbing Man.
Please....... you don't even know what is the Authority.

Originally posted by Estacado
Please....... you don't even know what is the Authority.

You don't even know who War is.

dunno about Authority beating him but, not so sure about him beating them either.
Originally posted by FearOfBlood
WarHulk 10/10. He is a weapon against Celestial. He easy beat Juggernaut and Absorbing Man.
when was Hulk used as a weapon against The Celestials?

he went toe-to-toe with Onslaught yes, but don't think he's faced off against genuine Celestials.

the nearest he's come is beating up on The Destroyer, when it was possessed by Maestro. and The Destroyer is ... well quite pathetic in comparison to a Celestial.

he has beaten devices designed to fight The Celestials, that's pretty impressive.

Yeah looking at this topic and looking at World War Hulk and what he did makes me think this is spite for War.

Originally posted by janus77
dunno about Authority beating him but, not so sure about him beating them either.

when was Hulk used as a weapon against The Celestials?

he went toe-to-toe with Onslaught yes, but don't think he's faced off against genuine Celestials.

the nearest he's come is beating up on The Destroyer, when it was possessed by Maestro. and The Destroyer is ... well quite pathetic in comparison to a Celestial.

he has beaten devices designed to fight The Celestials, that's pretty impressive.

I'm talking about War. War was said to be a weapon against Celestial (by Apoc himself).

he was?
all I remember is that Apoc's Celestial Tech suggested that Hulk might posses enough energies to pose a threat to The Celestials' plans.

not exactly the same thing, far more vague, though still a very high regard to have been held in.

think the best of those kinds of things is when The Beyonder said Hulk possessed an infinite power similar to his own. nothing compares to the power of The Beyonder, pre-retcon.

Didn't Lobo beat up on The Authority, or was that just a parody?

Nah, he legitimately kicked their asses all over the place, without even trying (as evident when he humored Midnighter).

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
Nah, he legitimately kicked their asses all over the place, without even trying (as evident when he humored Midnighter).

Then how in the world could The Authority not get beaten up by War Hulk?

Originally posted by CaptainStoic
Then how in the world could The Authority not get beaten up by War Hulk?

That's actually a good question.

Lulz at that logic...

"Wasn't Angie getting the better of Captain Atom?

Then how could she not solo WWH?"

HulK SmAsH FTW!!!!111111!!!11

WWH would have owned Captain Atom but not nearly as bad as how War Hulk would wreck the Authority.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
WWH would have owned Captain Atom but not nearly as bad as how War Hulk would wreck the Authority.

Just.... no..

Originally posted by Eon Blue
Just.... no..

So you're telling me if Captain Atom had been written into WWH, bare in mind this guy has been dominated by MARY MARVEL, he would have beaten Hulk?

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
So you're telling me if Captain Atom had been written into WWH, bare in mind this guy has been dominated by MARY MARVEL, he would have beaten Hulk?

Oh yes, absolutely.

That's a bad/borderline offensive opinion you have there.

I think it's a good one.

Yeah because the answer to all of Marvel's problems was Captain Atom. Man please, if Captain Atom were written in WWH he would have gotten punked out just like the rest of the Non-Sentry Marvel Universe, probably even one shotted.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
Yeah because the answer to all of Marvel's problems was Captain Atom. Man please, if Captain Atom were written in WWH he would have gotten punked out just like the rest of the Non-Sentry Marvel Universe, probably even one shotted.

One shotted ? You're generous...

World Breaker walks and Cap Atom dies.

I belive the Authority would have a slight advantage here.

Originally posted by SmurphSmash!
Lulz at that logic...

"Wasn't Angie getting the better of Captain Atom?

Then how could she not solo WWH?"

Captain Atom beat War Hulk? It's just not going to happen, Atom is not on his level, or on Captain Marvel, Thor, Genis Vell, Sentry, Gladiator, Juggernaut the list goes on, and on. Lobo beat the hell out of The Authority on panel, War Hulk would do the same.

Originally posted by CaptainStoic
Captain Atom beat War Hulk? It's just not going to happen, Atom is not on his level, or on Captain Marvel, Thor, Genis Vell, Sentry, Gladiator, Juggernaut the list goes on, and on. Lobo beat the hell out of The Authority on panel, War Hulk would do the same. Atom can draw the gamma from Hulk. Capt Marvel and Thor aren't on Hulk's level....Correct. They're levels above Hulk.

Originally posted by CaptainStoic
Captain Atom beat War Hulk? It's just not going to happen, Atom is not on his level, or on Captain Marvel, Thor, Genis Vell, Sentry, Gladiator, Juggernaut the list goes on, and on. Lobo beat the hell out of The Authority on panel, War Hulk would do the same.

sarcasm yes? Captain Atom has beaten Hal Jordan, and now that he's using his potential, he's fighting SBP. Go read a comicbook, and then we may just listen to you, or you can just go find a knife and rid kmc of your "knowledge"

Edit

Originally posted by Fuzzy Hawkeye
sarcasm yes? Captain Atom has beaten Hal Jordan, and now that he's using his potential, he's fighting SBP. Go read a comicbook, and then we may just listen to you, or you can just go find a knife and rid kmc of your "knowledge"

Sarcasm, yes? Hulk beat Sentry who in turn has stalemated Galactus. Go read a comicbook, and then we may just listen to you, or you can just go find a knife and rid kmc of your "knowledge"

Atom would beat WH or WWH.

I guess World War Hulk sure was lucky D-List hero Captain Atom wasn't on the scene! Please if Atom were in World War Hulk he wouldn't have even gotten the honor to fight the Hulk, one of his scrub goons would gave him the Wonder Man treatment.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
Sarcasm, yes? Hulk beat Sentry who in turn has stalemated Galactus. Go read a comicbook, and then we may just listen to you, or you can just go find a knife and rid kmc of your "knowledge"


spiderman said he did, as if he's a reliable source. Also bub, you took what I said and Made it lamer. Not surprised, you teal alot of things along those lines...

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
I guess World War Hulk sure was lucky D-List hero Captain Atom wasn't on the scene! Please if Atom were in World War Hulk he wouldn't have even gotten the honor to fight the Hulk, one of his scrub goons would gave him the Wonder Man treatment.


he'd just turn him back into banner, etc.

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l130/Red_Atom/Captain%20Atom/Cap%20scans/ea8c3a40.jpg


I'm not going to say much more on the subject. your a chump and stuff.

Originally posted by Fuzzy Hawkeye
he'd just turn him back into banner, etc.

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l130/Red_Atom/Captain%20Atom/Cap%20scans/ea8c3a40.jpg


Or just absorb the gamma radiation out of him.

After he has already gotten oneshotted.

WWH hits a lot harder then Maul, but you know this, don't you?

Originally posted by Fuzzy Hawkeye
spiderman said he did, as if he's a reliable source. Also bub, you took what I said and Made it lamer. Not surprised, you teal alot of things along those lines... Spider-Man also said I believe that he has a plan to take down Hulk if need be...

Spider-Man... heh.

Originally posted by Fuzzy Hawkeye
he'd just turn him back into banner, etc.

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l130/Red_Atom/Captain%20Atom/Cap%20scans/ea8c3a40.jpg


I'm not going to say much more on the subject. your a chump and stuff. Was that scene made specifically for battle forums?

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
After he has already gotten oneshotted.

WWH hits a lot harder then Maul, but you know this, don't you?

Lulz? Atom wasn't one shotted. Atom can amp himself, drawing unlimited energy, etc. Find himself in the same strength range as Hulk, is faster, and can take anything hulk throws at him, if hulk could even touch him. Hulk's practically a sitting duck, and this is without absorbing the radiation out of him. Does this all go over your head? I'll dumb it down a bit

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Spider-Man also said I believe that he has a plan to take down Hulk if need be...

Spider-Man... heh.

Was that scene made specifically for battle forums?


yes haermm Overuse it and stuff

Originally posted by Fuzzy Hawkeye
Lulz? Atom wasn't one shotted.

Atom wasn't fighting Hulk. But he did get put on his ass by Maul.


Find himself in the same strength range as Hulk,


lulz

if hulk could even touch him.

Double lulz.

Does this all go over your head?

You lost me when you said Atom wouldn't have gotten one-shotted by WWH, pretty lolable claim.


I'll dumb it down a bit

Impossible.

Really though, Atom is custom made to take down Hulk. He manipulates and absorbs energy with ease.

Gamma radiation suck ftw.

atom fighting prime destroyed a planet...

sentry fighting wwh destroyed... destroyed... oh.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
Atom wasn't fighting Hulk. But he did get put on his ass by Maul.


Find himself in the same strength range as Hulk,


lulz

if hulk could even touch him.

Double lulz.

Does this all go over your head?

You lost me when you said Atom wouldn't have gotten one-shotted by WWH, pretty lolable claim.


I'll dumb it down a bit

Impossible.


he was just lieing there, he didn't even see any urgency in getting up, maybe read the scan...

how can hulk touch him? Explain it, thanks


well I knew I lost you. You are pretty dumb Next time i'll dumb it down for you. Atom can amp...sorry big word...get lots of energy because he has this universe....sorry, big space thingy, in which it's infinite...never ending...it's why Monarch can fight SBP, because he has unlimited energy and stuff

Originally posted by pr1983
atom fighting prime destroyed a planet...

sentry fighting wwh destroyed... destroyed... oh. Universe?

it's why Monarch can fight SBP, because he has unlimited energy and stuff

Monitors can survive blasts that contain unlimited energy

Originally posted by Mindset
Monitors can survive blasts that contain unlimited energy

Because Atom totally pumps unlimited energy into every one of his blasts, am i rite?

Originally posted by batdude123
Because Atom totally pumps unlimited energy into every one of his blasts, am i rite?

What are you talking about?

He released the energy when his armor was ripped open

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Universe?

i'd ask what you meant if i could be bothered to care...

Originally posted by pr1983
i'd ask what you meant if i could be bothered to care... Are you talking about Monarch vs Prime?

Because a universe was destroyed... if not, I have no idea what you're talking about.

Originally posted by Fuzzy Hawkeye
he was just lieing there, he didn't even see any urgency in getting up, maybe read the scan...

Yeah, he tried out a new power he devoloped on the spot.

how can hulk touch him? Explain it, thanks

Same way Maul has hit him. Didn't Midnighter knock him back in his fight? This isn't the mystical fan wank version of Captain Atom, this is how he's actually portrayed in the books (since the argument is that Captain Atom got taken out by Engineer).


Hulk would hit him the same way Hulk has landed blows on Heralds and Sentry. But here's the thing, Hulk lands one blow on Cap and he's out, or is WWH not Mary Marvel level?


it's why Monarch can fight SBP,

Really? I thought it was because the 51 other Captain Atoms he aborbed.

Originally posted by Mindset
What are you talking about?

He released the energy when his armor was ripped open

Is it hard to grasp that the Quantum Field is a seperate field from Atom? Meaning that when he explodes, all the energy of the Quatum Field doesn't go with him. Hard for you to grasp big guy? Man it's like the whole fricken forum's gone stupid

Originally posted by Mindset
What are you talking about?

He released the energy when his armor was ripped open

Oh, you're referring to that.

Anyway, he destroyed a universe, so you can't deny the power.

Originally posted by batdude123
Because Atom totally pumps unlimited energy into every one of his blasts, am i rite?

He does when he has to fight Hulk.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
He does when he has to fight Hulk.

Then Hulk dies.

Originally posted by Fuzzy Hawkeye
Is it hard to grasp that the Quantum Field is a seperate field from Atom? Meaning that when he explodes, all the energy of the Quatum Field doesn't go with him. Hard for you to grasp big guy? Man it's like the whole fricken forum's gone stupid

Or maybe you could word your statements correctly, Monarch doesn't have unlimited energy, he draws his power from a place that has unlimited energy. Because if he had unlimited energy in himself the blast would have destroyed more than a universe and at the very least the Monitor.

How? Armageddon Captain Atom is way < Monarch

Originally posted by batdude123
Then Hulk dies.



and how



Now, Joey Usernamestealing Stacks. From batdude and me. Go shove a Tricksterpriest up your rectum

What's funny is how Monarch is even being brought up.

Or are we saying

Engineer > Monarch?

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
How? Armageddon Captain Atom is way < Monarch


they both have the same source of energy big guy, their confidence is what seperates the way they draw from it

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Are you talking about Monarch vs Prime?

Because a universe was destroyed... if not, I have no idea what you're talking about.

planet, universe, either way etc etc etc

Originally posted by Fuzzy Hawkeye
and how



Now, Joey Usernamestealing Stacks. From batdude and me. Go shove a Tricksterpriest up your rectum

That's nice.

But if you put Captain Atom in World War Hulk he wouldn't even get a page of fight time due to probably getting wrecked by a random Warbound.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
What's funny is how Monarch is even being brought up.

Or are we saying

Engineer > Monarch?


he loved Engineer, he wasn't even fighting back champ, he was more concerned with getting her to stop. Read comics, after your done shoving trick up your anus

If Monarch was in WWH, Hulk would have ripped his armor apart then absorbed all his energy.

Originally posted by Fuzzy Hawkeye
they both have the same source of energy big guy, their confidence is what seperates the way they draw from it

Sure

what's next

Maestro = Gray Hulk

DEY BOF HAV SAME SURC OF NRG

Originally posted by Fuzzy Hawkeye
he loved Engineer, he wasn't even fighting back champ, he was more concerned with getting her to stop. Read comics, after your done shoving trick up your anus

Your point? Did you just tell SmurphSmash to read more comics?

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
That's nice.

But if you put Captain Atom in World War Hulk he wouldn't even get a page of fight time due to probably getting wrecked by a random Warbound.

That doesn't make sense regardless of how you form your opinion . . .

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
That doesn't make sense regardless of how you form your opinion . . .

Actually it was a potshot at Captain Atom, point being if Captain Atom were in WWH he'd go down just like everybody else so bringing him up is irrelevant in the first place.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
That's nice.

But if you put Captain Atom in World War Hulk he wouldn't even get a page of fight time due to probably getting wrecked by a random Warbound.


That's why Atom was able to defeat Nekron. If you read comics, you'd know who that is. I won't explain it to you, since you can't comprehend anything...

Okay everybody, let's really calm down. Fuzzy Hawkeye, seriously, no more of that. Papa, to his credit, has been ignoring the insults. I'll close the thread if necessary.

Originally posted by Fuzzy Hawkeye
From batdude and me. Go shove a Tricksterpriest up your rectum I lol'ed.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
That's nice.

But if you put Captain Atom in World War Hulk he wouldn't even get a page of fight time due to probably getting wrecked by a random Warbound.

That's why KMC isn't a comic book.

Here, Captain Atom actually fights with a brain. He easily has the abilities to take down Hulk. He wouldn't be going toe to toe with Hulk which is his only chance of taking Atom down.

Atom pulls a Surfer and absorbs the gamma radiation right out of his body ftw.

Originally posted by Fuzzy Hawkeye
That's why Atom was able to defeat Nekron. If you read comics, you'd know who that is. I won't explain it to you, since you can't comprehend anything...

Which is also why Atom got brow beat by

Mary Marvel.

If you read comics, you'd know who that is. I won't explain it to you, since you can't comprehend anything....

Originally posted by batdude123
That's why KMC isn't a comic book.

Here, Captain Atom actually fights with a brain. He easily has the abilities to take down Hulk. He wouldn't be going toe to toe with Hulk which is Hulk's only chance of taking Atom down.

KMC knows how to better utalize Atom's power then Atom?

Very interesting.

Fact is SmurphSmash brought up a fight involving a incharacter Atom as a way to downgrade Hulk and hype the Authority. In character Atom would have gotten his world rocked by WWH (who's likely lesser then War).

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
Which is also why Atom got brow beat by

Mary Marvel.

If you read comics, you'd know who that is. I won't explain it to you, since you can't comprehend anything....


Good logic, reconned logic


bada told me to tone it down, so that means you have to too, thus, take tricksterpriest out of your recktum, but do it slowly so that it hurts....Leaving thread now

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
KMC knows how to better utalize Atom's power then Atom?

Very interesting.

barker

You were talking about how Captain Atom would be portrayed in a WWH title, where everybody jobs and forgets half of their abilities. I don't think Greg Pak is the leading authority on how Captain Atom can utilize his abilities.

Put them in any other comic, and Atom fights intelligently. Thus, Hulk wouldn't have a chance.

This isn't complicated stuff.

Originally posted by batdude123
barker

You were talking about how Captain Atom would be portrayed in a WWH title,

Yeah because the argument was

Originally posted by SmurphSmash!
Lulz at that logic...

"Wasn't Angie getting the better of Captain Atom?

Then how could she not solo WWH?"

We all know Captain Atom was not using his powers with KMC efficiency in their fight so I simply pointed out why that's not so impressive to WWH. Captain Atom was actually in character, in character Captain Atom doesn't possess the power to put down WWH. OOC Captain Atom uses a trick he just discovered 2-3 years ago to put him down.

Then you commence the Captain Atom street team trumping Monarch feats like they mean something.



where everybody jobs and forgets half of their abilities.

You mean, where everybody fights like they normally do.

I don't think Greg Pak is the leading authority on how Captain Atom can utilize his abilities.

Well considering Greg Pak has the ability to actually make events canon, I tend to give him more leeway/credibility then online fans.

and Atom fights intelligently.

IOW, out of character.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
Yeah because the argument was



We all know Captain Atom was not using his powers with KMC efficiency in their fight so I simply pointed out why that's not so impressive to WWH. Captain Atom was actually in character, in character Captain Atom doesn't possess the power to put down WWH. OOC Captain Atom uses a trick he just discovered 2-3 years ago to put him down.

Then you commence the Captain Atom street team trumping Monarch feats like they mean something.



where everybody jobs and forgets half of their abilities.

You mean, where everybody fights like they normally do.

I don't think Greg Pak is the leading authority on how Captain Atom can utilize his abilities.

Well considering Greg Pak has the ability to actually make events canon, I tend to give him more leeway/credibility then online fans.

and Atom fights intelligently.

IOW, out of character.


learn how to quote posts, and we'll read em, kthx

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
Well considering Greg Pak has the ability to actually make events canon, I tend to give him more leeway/credibility then online fans.


Woah! You mean he actually wrote a canon fight between Atom and Hulk?

I must see the scans.

We have no idea how Atom would do under Pak's pen... so why people 'assume' what would happen is ridiculous.

IMO.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Woah! You mean he actually wrote a canon fight between Atom and Hulk?

I must see the scans.

We're talking theoreticals.

Theoretically we all know (don't act like you don't) Captain Atom would have gone down in WWH just as hard as everybody else not named Sentry.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
We're talking theoreticals.

Theoretically we all know (don't act like you don't) Captain Atom would have gone down in WWH just as hard as everybody else not named Sentry.


Lulz @ thinking Sentry could beat Captain Atom...

Originally posted by Fuzzy Hawkeye
learn how to quote posts, and we'll read em, kthx




BTW

LOL at the thought of Captain Atom beating Sentry

LOL I say.

can you think for youself?








In summary, Captain Atom can draw unlimited amount of energy from a field of an unlimited amount of energy. Atom has beaten hal Jordan, and has beaten the lord of the Unliving. As Monarch he's expressed all of this, by kicking a bunch of Superman's asses, and what not. Gigi, close this thread

This thread has had far too many insults and too much spam. Plus it's been off topic for several pages.

Just to clear things up, Capt Atom will beat WW Hulk under KMC rules...not that it's even the original topic.


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