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1. Dating.
who's the smoother with women

2. Making money.
test their inventiveness, financial acumen, industriousness, psychological strength, marketing/mass psychology skills and organisational and administrative skills.

3. Cult Leadership.
gotta make the people LOVE you, Worship you and follow you into oblivion...

4. Throw down.
hand to hand combat... no rules 'cept for 1) no outside intervention 2) no weapons save for what you normally carry 3) no magic!

5. Raising Hell.
umm, well, gotta father a future world conqueror... who'd be the one to breed the baddest future despot?

oh and just generally, who's the smarter of the two?

Doom on all counts. Except for kids. Reed's grandson is Hyperstorm.....

Doom wins everything except for number five... Reed Richards children can do anything they want...

Doom all the way.

Doom wins everything except 4

LMAO, great topic!

Doom wins 1,2,3 and 4, Reed Takes 5.

Reed would be in with a chance to win number 1 when you consider Sue but shes a bit of a tramp so...

hey, thanks.

thought I'd find out who was the 'better' man, Mr Fantastic or Dr. Doom.
quite surprised by the consensus on Doom. I thought he lacked humanity and tact (for the ladies and also for marketing/promotions and human resources/talent development in business).

then again, I figured he'd really be methodical and calculating in rearing a future world conqueror... you never know, his DNA may seed something even more awesome than Franklin or Hyperstorm.

Originally posted by janus77
hey, thanks.

thought I'd find out who was the 'better' man, Mr Fantastic or Dr. Doom.
quite surprised by the consensus on Doom. I thought he lacked humanity and tact (for the ladies and also for marketing/promotions and human resources/talent development in business).

then again, I figured he'd really be methodical and calculating in rearing a future world conqueror... you never know, his DNA may seed something even more awesome than Franklin or Hyperstorm.

Doom is probably a better person than Richards IMO.

frankly, I can't believe Doom could one-up Hyperstorm. He's got the phoenix force, psi-power greater than Jean Grey w/e the PF, control over the 4 forces of the universe, Franklin's reality warping, and a genius intellect greater than Reed.

The man was stalemating Galactus. GALACTUS. Think about that.

Doom turned down the Enchantress, any man who can turn down the Enchantress when she offers herself to you on a plate, is a player.

Either that or Gay, which means Reed, definetly wins number 5!

rofl, a gay Dr. Doom would explain a lot about the Dooom-Richards dynamic. sexual tension is often at the bottom of any bickering/snarky relationship

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Doom is probably a better person than Richards IMO.

lol, guess I'm not the only one to dislike "Mr. Fantastic". Sadly Doom came across as an idiot and comically (!) vain, in the recent movie

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
frankly, I can't believe Doom could one-up Hyperstorm. He's got the phoenix force, psi-power greater than Jean Grey w/e the PF, control over the 4 forces of the universe, Franklin's reality warping, and a genius intellect greater than Reed.

The man was stalemating Galactus. GALACTUS. Think about that.

but didn't Doom strip Galactus of his powers?
that's resourcefulness on a whole other level, given his human limitations.

imagine him seeding a son by umm, say ... Jean Grey! or ... She-Hulk

Originally posted by janus77
lol, guess I'm not the only one to dislike "Mr. Fantastic". Sadly Doom came across as an idiot and comically (!) vain, in the recent movie

I have nothing against Reed its just that Doom has turned down rule of the planet and improved the lives of the Latverian people (sort of).

For a villian he shows a ton of heart.

I'd hit it (She Hulk that is)

Movie Doom = Worse Doom ever!

ah,
that doesn't sound very Doom-like, though I have read that he's loved by the Latverian people.

why did he turn down world domination? hasn't that been one of his goals (along with one-uping Reed Richards) forever?

Originally posted by janus77
ah,
that doesn't sound very Doom-like, though I have read that he's loved by the Latverian people.

why did he turn down world domination? hasn't that been one of his goals (along with one-uping Reed Richards) forever?

I think he got bored with it (it was noncanon though)

Originally posted by Hercules
I'd hit it (She Hulk that is)

Movie Doom = Worse Doom ever!
with what?
she's impervious to most blows ( ) ...

Originally posted by janus77
with what?
she's impervious to most blows ( ) ...

You are so innocent . . .

Originally posted by janus77
with what?
she's impervious to most blows ( ) ...

There are a few parts of her body that arn't impervious to certain parts of mine...

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
You are so innocent . . .
... or was that The Hulk?






I haven't the faintest idea, what you're on about!

Originally posted by Hercules
There are a few parts of her body that arn't impervious to certain parts of mine...
sounds like you've been poking around ...


I prefer Wonder Woman

Originally posted by janus77
sounds like you've been poking around ...


I prefer Wonder Woman



Nah shes too uptight.

sigh... she makes me wonder

Originally posted by janus77
1. Dating.
who's the smoother with women

2. Making money.
test their inventiveness, financial acumen, industriousness, psychological strength, marketing/mass psychology skills and organisational and administrative skills.

3. Cult Leadership.
gotta make the people LOVE you, Worship you and follow you into oblivion...

4. Throw down.
hand to hand combat... no rules 'cept for 1) no outside intervention 2) no weapons save for what you normally carry 3) no magic!

5. Raising Hell.
umm, well, gotta father a future world conqueror... who'd be the one to breed the baddest future despot?

oh and just generally, who's the smarter of the two?

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w17/guy222_photos/doom_galactus_3-179b58e615.jpg

Originally posted by guy222
http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w17/guy222_photos/doom_galactus_3-179b58e615.jpg

Doom=Reed. He is Dr. Doom

Number 1: Somes give it to Doom, but hey! Have you seen the chixx with who Reed is? Susan Storm 4 the win.

Number 2: Reed can be financed by Tony Stark. Doom his the head of a country. Doom win.

Number 3: The only dudes who like Doom are his fellow in Latveria. Reed is a pop star in USA. Reed win, via more people in New-York that in Latveria.

Number 4: Reed is ****ed. I mean... by all the holes. Doom wins.

Number 5: If the contest must stay between te two, Doom hands down. Richard would never have the guts to conquer the world.

Originally posted by janus77
1. Dating.
who's the smoother with women

2. Making money.
test their inventiveness, financial acumen, industriousness, psychological strength, marketing/mass psychology skills and organisational and administrative skills.

3. Cult Leadership.
gotta make the people LOVE you, Worship you and follow you into oblivion...

4. Throw down.
hand to hand combat... no rules 'cept for 1) no outside intervention 2) no weapons save for what you normally carry 3) no magic!

5. Raising Hell.
umm, well, gotta father a future world conqueror... who'd be the one to breed the baddest future despot?

oh and just generally, who's the smarter of the two? reed takes 1, who will like a guy with a metal face?

Originally posted by qqqqqqq
reed takes 1, who will like a guy with a metal face?

Enchantress, you know the Asgardian God of seduction, you would be suprised how a vast personal fortune and political power, make you very attractive to the opposite sex no matter what you look like.

Besides, how many times has Sue walked out on Reed now? Reed is no Don Juan...

Reed is a Dink when it comes down to this, Doom is the stud here.

Damm this thread makes reed look bad.

All the smarts in the world and he needs a marriage counselor

Originally posted by Priest
Damm this thread makes reed look bad.
wasn't my intention, trust!

what I don't understand is that Reed Richards is supposed to be smarter than Dr. Doom, isn't he?
in the movie (and in the comics, I think) he's the one who corrects Doom's errors... Doom's more arrogance and ego than actual intellectual ability. or at least that's how it's supposed to be.

seems everybody, more or less, sees Reed as being second fiddle (or at best equal) to Doom

Originally posted by janus77
wasn't my intention, trust!

what I don't understand is that Reed Richards is supposed to be smarter than Dr. Doom, isn't he?
in the movie (and in the comics, I think) he's the one who corrects Doom's errors... Doom's more arrogance and ego than actual intellectual ability. or at least that's how it's supposed to be.

seems everybody, more or less, sees Reed as being second fiddle (or at best equal) to Doom

You did say life skills though, Reed is smarter than Doom, thats part of why he gets under Doom's skin so much.

But Reed gets so involved in his work and what he does, he isn't the most socialy adjusted person now is he?

Doom runs a country, he has to be a diplomat as well as an evil genius, he can turn on the charm when he needs to and he is much more manipulative than Reed could ever be.

Reed, couldn't even see the signs of his marriage falling apart he was so consumed in what he was doing.

IQ = Reed>>Doom, Life Experience = Doom>>Reed.

Thats really what people are saying.

yeah but IQ is not the same thing as smarts. it's a narrow definition of a set of skills, that can be mapped and gauged easily.

Tolstoy was a genius, but bet he'd have been crap at looking at peas for insights into genetics/heredity...

I think comic book "genius" is too restrictive and frankly it's a weaker form of "intellect" that they venerate. strategic thinking - Doom/Thanos style - always comes out on top. even Batman's got the "playboy billionaire" cover for strategic purposes, why can't Reed think more longterm?

then again, as I said, Doom seems to be more arrogance and gob than performance

Originally posted by janus77
yeah but IQ is not the same thing as smarts. it's a narrow definition of a set of skills, that can be mapped and gauged easily.

Tolstoy was a genius, but bet he'd have been crap at looking at peas for insights into genetics/heredity...

I think comic book "genius" is too restrictive and frankly it's a weaker form of "intellect" that they venerate. strategic thinking - Doom/Thanos style - always comes out on top. even Batman's got the "playboy billionaire" cover for strategic purposes, why can't Reed think more longterm?

then again, as I said, Doom seems to be more arrogance and gob than performance

So to sum up your post Reed is a nerd

Seriously your right, Reed is a white coat scientist type, hes still a pretty good combat leader though but his first love is science and always will be.

Doom is more arrogance and gob than performance but in life the people who get to the top, are arrogant and loud and not nearly as capable as they think they are.

bah, I was just seriously disappointed with how they made Doom look in the movie
... just working through those issues ...

I was expecting some seriously Machiavellian supervillian with a universal vision for conquest and power. what we got was a bozo who couldn't even understand that he'd got seriously awesome superpowers and instead had to go on a rampage against a nerd

what disappoints most in terms of Reed Richards vs Doom, is that Doom's long streak of losses don't seem to teach him to be a little more humble and focussed...

Originally posted by guy222
http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w17/guy222_photos/doom_galactus_3-179b58e615.jpg

You have a bigger picture ?