Who can defeat A celestial in Battle?

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Utrigita
By seeing the feats preformed by the celestials and seen how actually very few beings have a shot at them have made me wonder who can actually kill/defeat/destroy a celestial ? Exitar arishem and so on.

Priest
Originally posted by Utrigita
By seeing the feats preformed by the celestials and seen how actually very few beings have a shot at them have made me wonder who can actually kill/defeat/destroy a celestial ? Exitar arishem and so on.
It seems like theres very few beings that can defeat a celestial.
Off the top of my head, Classic Beyonder, Thanos w/IG/HOTU were the only people that can recall that defeated a celestial in cannon books.
U have to be pretty uber to take one of these guys down.

grey fox
Galactus , invisible women and an extremely amped Thor.

Utrigita
agreed with both, but think outside of comic to all thought a welcome, and remember the chosen don't have to kill a celestial mearly humble him in battle.

Validus
A slightly motivated Kyle Rayner

Galan007
I'd say anyone around well-fed Galactus level.

guy222
Originally posted by Utrigita
By seeing the feats preformed by the celestials and seen how actually very few beings have a shot at them have made me wonder who can actually kill/defeat/destroy a celestial ? Exitar arishem and so on.

Guy222 says they can't die. They have returned. Woe unto any being who crosses Celestials smile

guy222
Originally posted by guy222
Guy222 says they can't die. They have returned. Woe unto any being who crosses Celestials smile

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Endless Mike
Eternity

Space M ummy
Originally posted by Endless Mike
Eternity

yeah, the list of individuals who can throw down with celestials is pretty short. Thor is NOT on that list.

Abstracts (Eternity, Infinity, Death, Galactus) can, everyone else is essentially a NO. even the invisible woman feat is largely PIS- celestials are perfectly capable of taking her out at a distance where the nature of her powers are a moot point.

also: guardians of the galaxy isn't canon. LOL at the beyonder hanging out there.

guy222
Originally posted by Endless Mike
Eternity

If he's not jobbing

Supreme being
Originally posted by Space M ummy
yeah, the list of individuals who can throw down with celestials is pretty short. Thor is NOT on that list.

Abstracts (Eternity, Infinity, Death, Galactus) can, everyone else is essentially a NO. even the invisible woman feat is largely PIS- celestials are perfectly capable of taking her out at a distance where the nature of her powers are a moot point.

also: guardians of the galaxy isn't canon. LOL at the beyonder hanging out there.

yes Agree with everything said, and whoever said an amped Thor i hope they were joking or perhaps they meant Thor merged with eternity.

Mider999
when did he merge with eternity

Mr Master
Originally posted by Space M ummy
also: guardians of the galaxy isn't canon. LOL at the beyonder hanging out there.

GOTG is very much Canon.


They have they're place in the Official 2006 Marvel Handbook bios.

In fact, that very issue with the Beyonder in Scathan's hand is mentioned in LT's and Protege's Bios.


I must concede,

it was complete PIS though.

Mr Master
Originally posted by Utrigita
By seeing the feats preformed by the celestials and seen how actually very few beings have a shot at them have made me wonder who can actually kill/defeat/destroy a celestial ? Exitar arishem and so on.


Here's a plethora of individuals and artifacts that can take out a Celestial or more:



Tier 1:

THOTI



Tier 2:

1. Pre-Retcon Beyonder

2. Pre-Retcon Molecule Man



Tier 3:

The Living Tribunal



Tier 4: (no particular order)

HOM Wanda (Full control)

Meggan (Full potential)

Merlyn (Matrix empowered)

Cap Brit. with the Sword of Might & Amulet of Right

Havok (Merged with the Nexus of Realities)

616 Jaspers merged with Fury (he must have ALL of Fury's abilities)

Infinity Gauntlet

Oblivion

Jamie Braddock

Beyonders



Tier 5:

Celestial Nullifier

Ultimate Nullifier



Tier 6:

1.Abraxas

2. Post-Retcon Molecule Man (Owen Reece's alter ego)




Tier 7:

1. Entropy

2. Multi-Eternity/Infinity

3. Multi-Death

(I never seen anything to hint at the existence of a multi-Oblivion)



Tier 8:

1. The Infinites

2. The Cosmic Containment Units

3. The Makers

4. Atleza

5. Galactus Insatiable (only seen once) ... Potentially Higher ...

6. Genis-vell Full potential (seen during HOM)

7. Maelstrom empowered by Anomaly/Oblivion/Eon/Quantum Bands


Tier 9:

1. 616 Eternity/Infinity

2. The Phoenix Force/WPOTC

3. Korvac (empowered by Galactus' World Ship)

4. 616 (Death - Lord Chaos & Master Order)

5. Rest of the Abstracts



Tier 10: (alternate and divergent Universes)

1. ALL Other Eternity/Infinity's

2. ALL Other (Death - Lord Chaos & Master Order)

Supreme being
Originally posted by Mider999
when did he merge with eternity

Sorry i worded that badly, it was in avengers infinity when The Infinities showed up it wasn't a merger more like he was speaking through eternity asking the Infinities to stop.

Symmetric Chaos
Originally posted by Mr Master
Here's a plethora of individuals and artifacts that can take out a Celestial or more:


Tier 1:

THOTI


Tier 2:

1. Pre-Retcon Beyonder

2. Pre-Retcon Molecule Man


Tier 3:

The Living Tribunal


Tier 4: (no particular order)

HOM Wanda (Full control)

Meggan (Full potential)

Merlyn (Matrix empowered)

Cap Brit. with the Sword of Might & Amulet of Right

Havok (Merged with the Nexus of Realities)

616 Jaspers merged with Fury (he must have ALL of Fury's abilities)

Infinity Gauntlet

Oblivion

Jamie Braddock

Beyonders


Tier 5:

Celestial Nullifier

Ultimate Nullifier


Tier 6:

1.Abraxas

2. Post-Retcon Molecule Man (Owen Reece's alter ego)


Tier 7:

1. Entropy

2. Multi-Eternity/Infinity

3. Multi-Death

(I never seen anything to hint at the existence of a multi-Oblivion)


Tier 8:

1. The Infinites

2. The Cosmic Containment Units

3. The Makers

4. Atleza

5. Galactus Insatiable (only seen once) ... Potentially Higher ...

6. Genis-vell Full potential (seen during HOM)

7. Maelstrom empowered by Anomaly/Oblivion/Eon/Quantum Bands


Tier 9:

1. 616 Eternity/Infinity

2. The Phoenix Force/WPOTC

3. Korvac (empowered by Galactus' World Ship)

4. 616 (Death - Lord Chaos & Master Order)

5. Rest of the Abstracts


Tier 10: (alternate and divergent Universes)

1. ALL Other Eternity/Infinity's

2. ALL Other (Death - Lord Chaos & Master Order)

Why do you count the 616 variants of Eternity, Infinity, Death etc as > ones not from 616?

Juntai
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Why do you count the 616 variants of Eternity, Infinity, Death etc as > ones not from 616? 616 is generally the proving grounds.
Beings conquer universes and dimension and whatever, then step into the 616, and bite it.
That's the way I take it.

Symmetric Chaos
Originally posted by Juntai
616 is generally the proving grounds.
Beings conquer universes and dimension and whatever, then step into the 616, and bite it.
That's the way I take it.

That makes sense.

w00t GO 616!

DevilGoblin
according Apocalypse: Warhulk

Mr Master
Originally posted by Juntai
616 is generally the proving grounds.
Beings conquer universes and dimension and whatever, then step into the 616, and bite it.
That's the way I take it.


Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
That makes sense.

w00t GO 616!

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Galan007
Originally posted by DevilGoblin
according Apocalypse: Warhulk no expression

And Apocalypse is never wrong huh? roll eyes (sarcastic)

boriquaking55
definitely nobody under low-level abstract (elder gods cant do it )

bigbran
Originally posted by Galan007
no expression

And Apocalypse is never wrong huh? roll eyes (sarcastic) Just to add to that (not for Devil Hulk, since he is too stupid to understand)... Apocalypse can't even comprehend the power of a Celestial, how is he supposed to know how to defeat one?
Plus, Odin is millions of times smarter than Apoc, and he had way more shit, and way more power than Apoc had at his disposal, and even his knowledge, and power failed.

guy222
Originally posted by bigbran
Just to add to that (not for Devil Hulk, since he is too stupid to understand)... Apocalypse can't even comprehend the power of a Celestial, how is he supposed to know how to defeat one?
Plus, Odin is millions of times smarter than Apoc, and he had way more shit, and way more power than Apoc had at his disposal, and even his knowledge, and power failed.

They are basically ommipotent. I like Celestials

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