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choose 4 mutants no omega level

Does Onslaught count as a mutant?

Originally posted by qqqqqqq
choose 4 mutants no omega level

Can u tell me who are the Great Beasts?

Originally posted by guy222
Can u tell me who are the Great Beasts?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Beasts

Originally posted by celestialdemon
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Beasts

And I thought Wiki was bad

Legion
Shaman X-Man
Apocalypse
Proteus (merged w/Piecemeal)

Those 4 against Elder Gods? a non-jobbing Great Beasts would wreck them. One look their dead...literally

Here's far better information of them:
====
Overview: The Great Beasts
Location: Realm of the Beasts
Members: Kariooq, Kolomaq, Somon,Tanaraq (616), Tanaraq (Exiles) Tolomaq, Tundra, Ranaq

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Those 4 against Elder Gods? a non-jobbing Great Beasts would wreck them. One look their dead...literally

You're probably right, but what mutants are out there who could take them? I have no idea.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
You're probably right, but what mutants are out there who could take them? I have no idea.

Their Elder Gods, I highly doubt any 4 mutants are going to take them. Mauvais a being who battled the Ancient One, and even Dr.Strange stated was unsure if he could beat was terrified of the Great Beasts.

Originally posted by King_Mungi

Here's far better information of them:
====
Overview: The Great Beasts
Location: Realm of the Beasts
Members: Kariooq, Kolomaq, Somon,Tanaraq (616), Tanaraq (Exiles) Tolomaq, Tundra, Ranaq


King, how do they fare against Legion, Franklin Richards and Charles Xavier

Other than Franklin who is Celestial level quite well. We have never seen the Great Beasts fully unleashed so I can't say how well they will fair against him. Ideally they can finish him with one strike, but meh!

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Other than Franklin who is Celestial level quite well. We have never seen the Great Beasts fully unleashed so I can't say how well they will fair against him. Ideally they can finish him with one strike, but meh!

Thanks

MJJ

they got humbled by alpha flight

Onsluagth - If not then Wanda
God-like Cable
MJJ
Fury

Thats because Talisman can control spirits.

Alpha The Ultimate Mutant- http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/alphatum.htm

Futurist- http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/futuristff.htm

Entity- http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix3/entityxavier.htm

Goblyn Queen- http://www.marveldatabase.com/Madelyne_Pryor

No Omegas?

Shaman X-Man
Jesus Cable
Magneto
Exodus

Ummm...read the first post people omega level mutants.

Originally posted by qqqqqqq
they got humbled by alpha flight

No they didn't.

Originally posted by id369
No Omegas?

Shaman X-Man
Jesus Cable
Magneto
Exodus

Wow, definetly not

Originally posted by golem370
Thats because Talisman can control spirits.

Alpha The Ultimate Mutant- http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/alphatum.htm

Futurist- http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/futuristff.htm

Entity- http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix3/entityxavier.htm

Goblyn Queen- http://www.marveldatabase.com/Madelyne_Pryor

Sooooo so she control Elder Gods spirits, but not the people you just listed? errr?

Good lord if you think they can beat them then you have another thing coming

MJJ beats all of them alone.

Originally posted by King Kandy
MJJ beats all of them alone.

He does, but is he an omega level mutant though? I don't think he was labeled as such.

Honestly come on people Magneto, Exodus? uhhhh...no

1. http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c365/A_Flight4/AlphaFlight24-28.jpg
2. http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c365/A_Flight4/AlphaFlight24-30.jpg

Originally posted by King_Mungi



Wow, definetly not



Scans or Ill call you a raging fan boy bluffing. >.<

but each great beasts have their own weaknesses am i right?

Originally posted by King_Mungi
He does, but is he an omega level mutant though? I don't think he was labeled as such.
I think he's Omega Level, but he's not titled as such so I submitted him anyway.

Originally posted by id369
Scans or Ill call you a raging fan boy bluffing. >.<

Right

Tanaraq (616):
Magical Backlash:
1. http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c120/A_Flight2/AlphaFlight23-16.jpg
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Somon:
Psychic death killing Talisman (Dr.Strange's equal):
1. http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c365/A_Flight4/AlphaFlight24-28.jpg
2. http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c365/A_Flight4/AlphaFlight24-30.jpg
===
Tundra
Earthy manifestation not the real Tundra as shown in the scan posted in qqqqqq post.

1. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/AlphaFlight01-22.jpg
2. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/AlphaFlight01-26.jpg
3. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/AlphaFlight01-27.jpg
4. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/AlphaFlight01-28.jpg
5. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/AlphaFlight01-29.jpg
6. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/AlphaFlight01-30.jpg
7. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/AlphaFlight01-31.jpg
8. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/AlphaFlight01-32.jpg
9. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/AlphaFlight01-33.jpg
10. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/AlphaFlight01-34.jpg
11. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/AlphaFlight01-35.jpg
12. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/AlphaFlight01-36.jpg
===
Shaman knows anything he does would only be stop gaps at best: http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c365/A_Flight4/AlphaFlight24-19.jpg

Great Beasts rule over death and decay:
1. http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g159/A_Flight9/AlphaFlight38-15.jpg
2. http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l107/A_Flight11/AlphaFlight44-19.jpg

Originally posted by qqqqqqq
but each great beasts have their own weaknesses am i right?

Basically to their own Great Beasts couterpart to do serious harm. Most of their "loses" which wern't even loses were just Earthly manifestations of the Great Beasts not even the real Great Beasts and that they must be beaten in 20 minutes or they will never be beaten

Time-limit: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/AlphaFlight01-26.jpg

Eartly avatar: http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c365/A_Flight4/AlphaFlight24-19.jpg

boy you sure know alot about the Great Beasts

Why not just post a link to the RespectThread?

but some of your scans are not showing

Originally posted by King Kandy
I think he's Omega Level, but he's not titled as such so I submitted him anyway.

I honestly don't know if he is he definetly takes it...with ease.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Why not just post a link to the RespectThread?

Because there from 5 different respect threads, maybe I should make a great beast one.

Originally posted by qqqqqqq
but some of your scans are not showing

Shoot, which scans they all seem to be working for me.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Right

Tanaraq (616):
Magical Backlash:
1. http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c120/A_Flight2/AlphaFlight23-16.jpg
===
Somon:
Psychic death killing Talisman (Dr.Strange's equal):
1. http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c365/A_Flight4/AlphaFlight24-28.jpg
2. http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c365/A_Flight4/AlphaFlight24-30.jpg
===
Tundra
Earthy manifestation not the real Tundra as shown in the scan posted in qqqqqq post.

1. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/AlphaFlight01-22.jpg
2. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/AlphaFlight01-26.jpg
3. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/AlphaFlight01-27.jpg
4. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/AlphaFlight01-28.jpg
5. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/AlphaFlight01-29.jpg
6. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/AlphaFlight01-30.jpg
7. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/AlphaFlight01-31.jpg
8. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/AlphaFlight01-32.jpg
9. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/AlphaFlight01-33.jpg
10. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/AlphaFlight01-34.jpg
11. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/AlphaFlight01-35.jpg
12. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/AlphaFlight01-36.jpg
===
Shaman knows anything he does would only be stop gaps at best: http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c365/A_Flight4/AlphaFlight24-19.jpg

Great Beasts rule over death and decay:
1. http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g159/A_Flight9/AlphaFlight38-15.jpg
2. http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l107/A_Flight11/AlphaFlight44-19.jpg



Basically to their own Great Beasts couterpart to do serious harm. Most of their "loses" which wern't even loses were just Earthly manifestations of the Great Beasts not even the real Great Beasts and that they must be beaten in 20 minutes or they will never be beaten

Time-limit: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/AlphaFlight01-26.jpg

Eartly avatar: http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c365/A_Flight4/AlphaFlight24-19.jpg

Ah I see, then In that case I still see the mutants winning. I will just have to change some characters.

But before that I need to know if
We are fighting the avatars or the actual beasts?

In their dimension or in neutral ground.

Originally posted by id369
Ah I see, then In that case I still see the mutants winning. I will just have to change some characters.

But before that I need to know if
We are fighting the avatars or the actual beasts?

In their dimension or in neutral ground.

You would have to change them all, their Elder Gods for crying out loud.

Valid question, hard to guage their powerlevels in avatar form though.

In their dimension forget about it, and neutral ground you have to stop them in 20 minutes or you won't stop them at all as their regaining their full power.

It took the combined might of Shaman and Talisman, plus a universe popping item to defeat the weakest Great Beast, Ranaq.

1. http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c120/A_Flight2/AlphaFlight18-21.jpg

Shaman X-Man
Sway
Darwin
Hyperstorm (Jonathon Reed Richards)

Originally posted by id369
Shaman X-Man
Sway
Darwin
Hyperstorm (Jonathon Reed Richards)

Shaman X-Man no, Sway no, Darwin definetly no...Hyperstorm is good choice.
===
Ranaq could literally just take over their bodies and steal their powers.

There is no chance without Alpha Level Mutants
Entity
Thanos is a mutant
The Ultimate Mutant
Futhurist
Gobyln Queen

Originally posted by golem370
There is no chance without Alpha Level Mutants
Entity
Thanos is a mutant
The Ultimate Mutant
Futhurist
Gobyln Queen

Even then your choices still don't equal a win, their skyfather level beings. They made the first men fear the darkness and the cold. Come on guys this is like picking 4 mutants to basically take on Odin.

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/Exilesv10572005puar-DCP18.jpg

None of these guys are normal mutants. Thanos was able to outsmart Hunger a being he never seen before he would come up with something

There is basically no chance without Omega LEvels.

For the Win.

Alpha The Ultimate Mutant- http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/alphatum.htm

Futurist- http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/futuristff.htm

Entity- http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix3/entityxavier.htm

Goblyn Queen- http://www.marveldatabase.com/Madelyne_Pryor

Okay, I got some good ones.

Godlike Wolverine
Godlike Cyclops
Godlike Beast
Godlike Nightcrawler

Originally posted by golem370
For the Win.

Alpha The Ultimate Mutant- http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/alphatum.htm

Futurist- http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/futuristff.htm

Entity- http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix3/entityxavier.htm

Goblyn Queen- http://www.marveldatabase.com/Madelyne_Pryor

Wow no, what's to stop Somon from instantly killing them?.. which he can, Ranaq possessing them?..which he can, Tolomaq instantly flash broiling them?..which he can, Kolomaq summons a blizzard that equals a million winters instantly?...which he can, etc. etc. etc.

Goblyn Queen wins this.

Originally posted by golem370
Goblyn Queen wins this.

aaaaaaaaand and credibility you had in this thread is gone.

Alright the mutants just destroy the earth.

Jean Grey Dark Phoenix
Onslaught
Hyperstorm
Entity
Thanos

Originally posted by golem370
Alright the mutants just destroy the earth.

Good for them and that will do what? you can't kill the Great Beasts as stated. Plus the fact they have already rule a planet "once not unlike Earth" until they killed everyone.

Originally posted by golem370
Jean Grey Dark Phoenix
Onslaught
Hyperstorm
Entity
Thanos

Dark Phoenix...good choice
Onsalught...not Omega, and he even recently just got owned by Captain America
Hyperstorm..good choice
Entity...nope, won't be enough
Thanos...not even an Omega mutant.

He is above Omega Mutant. His feats and smarts speak for themselfs. You said they are spirtually linked with the world so it should be no more world no more beasts

Originally posted by golem370
He is above Omega Mutant. His feats and smarts speak for themselfs. You said they are spirtually linked with the world so it should be no more world no more beasts

Except first posts state Omega Mutants. No they get their information from it. They have several worlds and dimensions they get their power from. Without it their still the Great Beasts, just not absolute control over the planet.

Is Dr.Strange omega mutant even though he has done things above other omega mutants? no.

Omega's aren't allowed, so no Dark Phoenix.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Okay, I got some good ones.

Godlike Wolverine
Godlike Cyclops
Godlike Beast
Godlike Nightcrawler

Humas Sapien? I thought Stranger was a mutant

Terrax was a mutant.

Originally posted by King_Mungi


Shaman doesn't have that sort of power. Not even Alpha Flight Shaman had that power.

Im sorry but X-Man certainly does.

The astral realm or spiral in another alternate earth.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Whoops my mistake I thought this thread was omega mutants, but it said no Omega..sorry.



ummm....skyfather beings. You think they can plan and outhink and react faster than over 5 billion year old beings?


In a world of fictional writing. Yes.

Originally posted by King_Mungi


Astral realm maybe, but their not in the astrl realm. Their skyfather beings, man you underestimating them. Alpha Flight Shaman can even take his medicine bag into the astral plane, he is no chump in that regard.

As avatar they have a 20 time limit before reaching their godly status.

And it does not matter if they are in or out of the astral realm. Nate can manipulate the actual/astral realm pulling them in and out.

Originally posted by id369
In a world of fictional writing. Yes.

As avatar they have a 20 time limit before reaching their godly status.

And it does not matter if they are in or out of the astral realm. Nate can manipulate the actual/astral realm pulling them in and out.

If Northstar and Aurora couldn't keep up with them and they think faster than normal humans, what are normal humans chances? slim

As shown even with the avatar Tundra, nothing they did phased him. Ranaq after possessing a female was warping reality when he was fighting Talisman and of course that was before the 20 minutes as well.

Shaman, Talisman and other members of AF can do that as well. Nothing new.

Didn't Box deck one of them?

Originally posted by golem370
Didn't Box deck one of them?

He hit Tundra after he absorbed a complex making him hundreds of feet tall in his armor. However, literally after Box hit him Tundra grew hundreds of feet taller than him and he new he was boned.

I'm in the process of making a Great Beast respect thread

Originally posted by King_Mungi
If Northstar and Aurora couldn't keep up with them and they think faster than normal humans, what are normal humans chances? slim

As shown even with the avatar Tundra, nothing they did phased him. Ranaq after possessing a female was warping reality when he was fighting Talisman and of course that was before the 20 minutes as well.

Shaman, Talisman and other members of AF can do that as well. Nothing new.
That would be true if it was a normal human they ware dealing with.
Thankfully I have the options to use mutants.
I have Reed/Doom level genius on my team. I would think we stand a fair chance in the thinking devision.
Shaman just happens to be resourceful and well adapt to his powers.
And Nate has bin shown to re-arrange matter at a sub atomic levels.

Creating Madelyne Pryor and Gwyn Stacey out of sheer thought.

Originally posted by id369
That would be true if it was a normal human they ware dealing with.
Thankfully I have the options to use mutants.
I have Reed/Doom level genius on my team. I would think we stand a fair chance in the thinking devision.
Shaman just happens to be resourceful and well adapt to his powers.
And Nate has bin shown to re-arrange matter at a sub atomic levels.

Creating Madelyne Pryor and Gwyn Stacey out of sheer thought.

...skyfather beings once again, you don't think they have a level of omniscent?

So has basically majority of the members of Alpha Flight as well as the Great Beasts. Somon is in complete control over his entire planet and can alter it on a whim. He can do the same thing on Earth.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
...skyfather beings once again, you don't think they have a level of omniscent?

So has basically majority of the members of Alpha Flight as well as the Great Beasts. Somon is in complete control over his entire planet and can alter it on a whim. He can do the same thing on Earth.


I tend to use a combination of on panel explanations and bios.

In fictional writing, just because they are sky father level being does not mean they cannot be outsmarted.


As for control over the planet?
The planet is not even an issue, Shaman and Hyperstorm are interdemensional travelers.

Shaman has already dealt with a character that attained total control of a planet.

Hell he can scatter the essense down to the subatomic level over Earth, or just wreck Earth all together.

Know what keeps my team from hoping to an alternate earth and go ahead with their preparations.

I assure you I thought of my team really carefully, in efforts to exploit each others abilities to the maximum to achieve a hybrid versions of each other.

The end result will be meat, or they simply send them off to another earth/astral realm like mentioned earlier.

Leech
Scrambler
Apocalypse
Shaman X-Man

Originally posted by id369
I tend to use a combination of on panel explanations and bios.

In fictional writing, just because they are sky father level being does not mean they cannot be outsmarted.

As for control over the planet?
The planet is not even an issue, Shaman and Hyperstorm are interdemensional travelers.

Shaman has already dealt with a character that attained total control of a planet.

Hell he can scatter the essense down to the subatomic level over Earth, or just wreck Earth all together.

Know what keeps my team from hoping to an alternate earth and go ahead with their preparations.

I assure you I thought of my team really carefully, in efforts to exploit each others abilities to the maximum to achieve a hybrid versions of each other.

The end result will be meat, or they simply send them off to another earth/astral realm like mentioned earlier.

They havn't been flat out out-smarted.

So what? what does traveling have to deal with it? their just going to leave the plant then?

and won't do much as I stated earlier, they don't get their power from the Earth.

Wow, I love how your giving them so much prep and knowledge on how to beat SKYFATHER beings when there is no prep and your plan doesn't work as with one move their dead.

Won't work, once again this is like putting your mutants against Odin. Do you seriously think they can take Odin?

Banishment is possible, but unlikely as like I mentioned many times..one move..dead. All of them.

Originally posted by endrict
Leech
Scrambler
Apocalypse
Mr Sinster

I suggest you check my earlier scans

Originally posted by King_Mungi
They havn't been flat out out-smarted.
No limit fallacy, just because they have not bin outsmarted does not mean they cant be outsmarted.

Originally posted by King_Mungi

So what? what does traveling have to deal with it? their just going to leave the plant then?




Why not, you think someone that can tune every are on earth is not going to notice what the beasts are doing with their presence.

Shaman has done this before, I do not see any problem with it.

Originally posted by King_Mungi


and won't do much as I stated earlier, they don't get their power from the Earth.


It has nothing to do with ware they get their power from, but the time limitations set forth to unleash their power for ever native earth they arrive on.



Originally posted by King_Mungi


Wow, I love how your giving them so much prep and knowledge on how to beat SKYFATHER beings when there is no prep and your plan doesn't work as with one move their dead.


These abilities have bin used with out the need of prep time. I would think these are the procedures they would set forth to engage the enemy.

Originally posted by King_Mungi


Won't work, once again this is like putting your mutants against Odin. Do you seriously think they can take Odin?


No I am setting up Mutants against the Beasts. Besides, mutants and humans have had a better track record with their tactics and prep time then say Odin. But enough of comparing the Beasts to Odin, mention the Beasts, ability, the bests prep, the beast tactics.

If I wanted to match up Odin I would set up a match against Odin.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Banishment is possible, but unlikely as like I mentioned many times..one move..dead. All of them.


True it can go vice versa. One move my team is dead, one move the beasts are gone.

But I made my point. The mutants do stand a chance.

Originally posted by id369
No limit fallacy, just because they have not bin outsmarted does not mean they cant be outsmarted.

Dr.Doom, Sasquatch, Guardian, Shaman, etc. all geniuses never outsmarted them. Not happening

Originally posted by id369

Why not, you think someone that can tune every are on earth is not going to notice what the beasts are doing with their presence.

Shaman has done this before, I do not see any problem with it.

Same can be said about the Great Beasts, X-Man in his book did beat 3 of the Beasts in PIS/CIS. As against Tundra the move he did would have destroyed all of Canada by blowing him up with an energy attack, which as shown in his other apperances would have just reformed. Then X-Man teleported Somon and Kolomaq (who isn't even in the Realm of the Beasts, so him even appearing is wrong) while they stated and watched him until he held them while the Earth moved from underneath them sending them into space and that was that.

Originally posted by id369

It has nothing to do with ware they get their power from, but the time limitations set forth to unleash their power for ever native earth they arrive on.



It's not unleashing it on Earth, it's their power is being feed to them from the alternate dimension. Even then, Ranaq was warping reality, and Tundra quickly was connected to the entire land of Canada and all it's species.

Originally posted by id369

These abilities have bin used with out the need of prep time. I would think these are the procedures they would set forth to engage the enemy..

Your claiming before the match they know what to do, and that they would effectively work together and that the Great Beasts would do nothing while all this happens. It's a stretch

Originally posted by id369

No I am setting up Mutants against the Beasts. Besides, mutants and humans have had a better track record with their tactics and prep time then say Odin. But enough of comparing the Beasts to Odin, mention the Beasts, ability, the bests prep, the beast tactics.

If I wanted to match up Odin I would set up a match against Odin.

Your setting them up against skyfathers. That is like saying with only 5 minutes of prep these 4 can take gods. Not happening. I'm making the respect thread right now, hopefully it will be completed by tuesday or wednesday.

Yet their skyfather beings, on the same level as Odin, Nelvanna, Horus, etc.

Originally posted by id369

True it can go vice versa. One move my team is dead, one move the beasts are gone.

But I made my point. The mutants do stand a chance.

Only chance they have is banishment, flat out power their not going to do it.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Dr.Doom, Sasquatch, Guardian, Shaman, etc. all geniuses never outsmarted them. Not happening



Same can be said about the Great Beasts, X-Man in his book did beat 3 of the Beasts in PIS/CIS. As against Tundra the move he did would have destroyed all of Canada by blowing him up with an energy attack, which as shown in his other apperances would have just reformed. Then X-Man teleported Somon and Kolomaq (who isn't even in the Realm of the Beasts, so him even appearing is wrong) while they stated and watched him until he held them while the Earth moved from underneath them sending them into space and that was that.



It's not unleashing it on Earth, it's their power is being feed to them from the alternate dimension. Even then, Ranaq was warping reality, and Tundra quickly was connected to the entire land of Canada and all it's species.



Your claiming before the match they know what to do, and that they would effectively work together and that the Great Beasts would do nothing while all this happens. It's a stretch



Your setting them up against skyfathers. That is like saying with only 5 minutes of prep these 4 can take gods. Not happening. I'm making the respect thread right now, hopefully it will be completed by tuesday or wednesday.

Yet their skyfather beings, on the same level as Odin, Nelvanna, Horus, etc.



Only chance they have is banishment, flat out power their not going to do it.


I thought I recognize these characters in one X-Man issues, they just looked a bit different in X-Mans comics.

If Pre-Shaman already dealt with these 3 Odin level characters.
Shaman (along with his group) has no problem dealing with the fresh avatars.

Besides, given his abilities and ways to buy time plus his previous encounter with the Beasts would make the argument all the more valid and effective.


If banishment does not work (and why not), the end result will be 4 hybrid characters above herald level.

Originally posted by id369
I thought I recognize these characters in one X-Man issues, they just looked a bit different in X-Mans comics.

It had a few contunity errors, but Kolomaq by far looked vastly better

Originally posted by id369

If Pre-Shaman already dealt with these 3 Odin level characters.
Shaman (along with his group) has no problem dealing with the fresh avatars.

Except it was badly written and went against what was showed countless times what he did wouldn't work. Kolomaq just being an avatar with a word could freeze the marrow in their bone.

Originally posted by id369

Besides, given his abilities and ways to buy time plus his previous encounter with the Beasts would make the argument all the more valid and effective.

PIS/CIS does not count as per the rules of the board. Won't work, like I have said many times they have attacks that would kill them all in a second.

Originally posted by id369

If banishment does not work (and why not), the end result will be 4 hybrid characters above herald level.

Well if they don't banish Tanaraq he can easily continually bring them back. Apparently he is their reality/dimension smasher. 4 Hearlds do not equal 6 or so skyfathers