Parallax and Ion vs. Galactus and Abraxas

nvrbeenwthagirl

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
The GL Coprs are universal right?
-- Hal and Kyle has only universal features.

Couldent Abraxas just teloport himself and Galactus to an other universe, from where Galactus could use his Nullifier to kill them instantly?
Actually parallax and IOn are both multiversal. You guys forget that DC's multiverse was based upon time lines. Hal erased all of the time lines and created others in an out. He was able to soundly beat the time trapper and control exodus, both of him are multiversal time beings. Ion is the same as parrallax I think. Maybe a lil bit stronger.

xmeat

the UN is apart of galactus him and abraxas win.

Utrigita

Sorry didn't see the UN was allowed then Galactus and Abraxas for the win.

Mr Master

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
You guys forget that DC's multiverse was based upon time lines. Hal erased all of the time lines and created others in an out.

Didn't Parallax only erase One Universe? (Timeline)

Board Walker

Originally posted by Mr Master
Didn't Parallax only erase One Universe? (Timeline)

He took down everything to the dawn of creation, it was never a "universe" and it was explained it was infinite time lines, infinite realities, also heroes from multiple time lines battled Parallax, when wave rider intervened to pull them out of the time stream.

DC isn't a universe, it is an omniverse, but the main DC universe itself is the omniverse, and then down from it sub divides into infinite time lines and infinite realities, thus megaverses, then form then and so on.

Galan007

Originally posted by Mr Master
Ion has?

Let me know yall, so we can guage this battle. Ion doesn't have panel feats in the league of Parallax,

but we can assume Ion could do the same, and possibly more, if he chose to.

See,

Ion possesses the same power that parallax (Hal) gained + additional magical powers...

Board Walker

Originally posted by Galan007
Ion doesn't have panel feats in the league of Parallax,

but we can assume Ion could do the same, and possibly more, if he chose to.

See,

Ion possesses the same power that parallax (Hal) gained + additional magical powers...

starheart, all of the magic!

Mr Master

Originally posted by Board Walker
He took down everything to the dawn of creation, it was never a "universe" and it was explained it was infinite time lines, infinite realities, also heroes from multiple time lines battled Parallax, when wave rider intervened to pull them out of the time stream.

I don't know about that, I'm referring to Zero Hour.

Just by suggesting,

"I wonder if ONE Universe will be enough"
http://img363.imageshack.us/img363/4262/3qi1.th.jpg

Conclusively tells us, he's ONLY dealing with ONE Universe.

Whether he had the power to do more is well ... inconsequential since he didn't.

Remember in the Thanos HOTI case,

I told you find me proof with the #1 or the letters, O-N-E or Single

Universe!

Originally posted by Board Walker
DC isn't a universe, it is an omniverse, but the main DC universe itself is the omniverse, and then down from it sub divides into infinite time lines and infinite realities, thus megaverses, then form then and so on.

"Omniverse?"

According to On Panel resources it's a Multiverse.

It's called "Hypertime"

Hypertime

http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/3241/h1kp6.th.jpg

http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/3790/h2zn3.th.jpg

http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/2398/29141982td0.th.jpg

"Hypertime,

Parallel Timelines which comprise ALL REALITY ...

the Universe they (the Linear Men) oversee is actually Part of a Multiverse,

(Hypertime) an Infinite Realm of Parallel Worlds"

nvrbeenwthagirl

Originally posted by Mr Master
I don't know about that, I'm referring to Zero Hour.

Just by suggesting,

"I wonder if ONE Universe will be enough"
http://img363.imageshack.us/img363/4262/3qi1.th.jpg

Conclusively tells us, he's ONLY dealing with ONE Universe.

Whether he had the power to do more is well ... inconsequential since he didn't.

Remember in the Thanos HOTI case,

I told you find me proof with the #1 or the letters, O-N-E or Single

Universe!

"Omniverse?"

According to On Panel resources it's a Multiverse.

It's called "Hypertime"

Hypertime

http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/3241/h1kp6.th.jpg

http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/3790/h2zn3.th.jpg

http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/2398/29141982td0.th.jpg

"Hypertime,

Parallel Timelines which comprise ALL REALITY ...

the Universe they (the Linear Men) oversee is actually Part of a Multiverse,

(Hypertime) an Infinite Realm of Parallel Worlds"

Hypertime can't reallybe all of reality. It doesn't comprise of the infinite earths, or the Vertigo verses. It also doesn't show the higher dimensions like the 5th dimension. It's just one megaverse in DC.

Board Walker

Originally posted by Mr Master
I don't know about that, I'm referring to Zero Hour.

Just by suggesting,

"I wonder if ONE Universe will be enough"
http://img363.imageshack.us/img363/4262/3qi1.th.jpg

Conclusively tells us, he's ONLY dealing with ONE Universe.

Whether he had the power to do more is well ... inconsequential since he didn't.

Remember in the Thanos HOTI case,

I told you find me proof with the #1 or the letters, O-N-E or Single

Universe!

"Omniverse?"

According to On Panel resources it's a Multiverse.

It's called "Hypertime"

Hypertime

http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/3241/h1kp6.th.jpg

http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/3790/h2zn3.th.jpg

http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/2398/29141982td0.th.jpg

"Hypertime,

Parallel Timelines which comprise ALL REALITY ...

the Universe they (the Linear Men) oversee is actually Part of a Multiverse,

(Hypertime) an Infinite Realm of Parallel Worlds"

Your trying to claim DC is only a multiverse?

It is an omniverse, it is some what like the opposite of Marvel.

Where Marvel focuses on 616 universe and then goes upward.

DC's focus is upon the omniverse, and then they go downward or to the side from there.

P.S. Hypertime is but one piece, not even a slice of the cake.

Dimensions, 4th-nth realms, vertigo, etc.

Thanos_THOTU

Originally posted by Board Walker
Your trying to claim DC is only a multiverse?

It is an omniverse, it is some what like the opposite of Marvel.

Where Marvel focuses on 616 universe and then goes upward.

DC's focus is upon the omniverse, and then they go downward or to the side from there.

P.S. Hypertime is but one piece, not even a slice of the cake.

Dimensions, 4th-nth realms, vertigo, etc.
Opposite of an omniverse is an omniverse?
Where did you read that it was an omniverse?

Board Walker

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Opposite of an omniverse is an omniverse?
Where did you read that it was an omniverse?

I meant that the way they are portrayed is opposite.

In marvel they focus on universe, then go upward in story arcs.

In DC they start at the omniverse, which is the main DCU, then focus down in scope, to megaverse, to multiverse, to universe, etc.

Mr Master

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Hypertime can't reallybe all of reality. It doesn't comprise of the infinite earths,

Originally posted by Mr Master
http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/2398/29141982td0.th.jpg

"Hypertime,

Parallel Timelines which comprise ALL REALITY ...

the Universe they (the Linear Men) oversee is actually Part of a Multiverse,

(Hypertime) an Infinite Realm of Parallel Worlds"

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
or the Vertigo verses. It also doesn't show the higher dimensions like the 5th dimension.

Isn't Bat-Mite an Imp?

http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/3790/h2zn3.th.jpg

Right hand lower corner.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
It's just one megaverse in DC.

You have proof?

Thanos_THOTU

Originally posted by Board Walker
I meant that the way they are portrayed is opposite.

In marvel they focus on universe, then go upward in story arcs.

In DC they start at the omniverse, which is the main DCU, then focus down in scope, to megaverse, to multiverse, to universe, etc.
Ultimate is the current most active, maybe the zombie- and mangaverse are in there after the 616 as well.
However, where was it stated that DC was a omniverse?

Thanos_THOTU

Originally posted by Mr Master
Isn't Bat-Mite an Imp?

Right hand lower corner.

You have proof?
Hah, he didn't even read it, why am I not suprised?

Galan007

Originally posted by Mr Master
Isn't Bat-Mite an Imp?

http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/3790/h2zn3.th.jpg

Right hand lower corner. That's only showing one Imp on some random Earth...

It doesn't show the 5th Dimension itself.

Board Walker

Galan has a point, it doesnt show the 4th-nth dimensions

Thanos_THOTU

Originally posted by Galan007
That's only showing one Imp on some random Earth...

It doesn't show the 5th Dimension itself.
How do you know, maybe Bat-mite brought that gay-looking hero to his dimension and they talk there ...
Where was it stated that the 5th was not a part of the Multiverse?

Board Walker

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
How do you know, maybe Bat-mite brought that gay-looking hero to his dimension and they talk there ...
Where was it stated that the 5th was not a part of the Multiverse?

uh from the fact that the dimension are compositions (webs) of infinite realities them selves maybe?

Really your just splitting hairs now Thanos -_-

Galan007

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
How do you know, maybe Bat-mite brought that gay-looking hero to his dimension and they talk there ...How do you know he did?

See what I did just there? evillaugh

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Where was it stated that the 5th was not a part of the Multiverse? I didn't say whether or not it was or wasn't.

I simply remarked that the 5th Dimension itself wasn't shown in that pannel...

Only 1 Imp from the 5th Dimension was shown.

Thanos_THOTU

Originally posted by Galan007
How do you know he did?

See what I did just there? evillaugh

I didn't say whether or not it was or wasn't.

I simply remarked that the 5th Dimension itself wasn't shown in that pannel...

Only 1 Imp from the 5th Dimension was shown.
So we don't know, yet some people use it as fact that the 5th isnt a part of the original Multiverse?

Thanos_THOTU

Originally posted by Board Walker
uh from the fact that the dimension are compositions (webs) of infinite realities them selves maybe?

Really your just splitting hairs now Thanos -_-
So where was this stated?
-- And where was it stated to be a omniverse, just because Marvel is it doenst necesserly mean that DC is it ... Yet ... Or ever.

Board Walker

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
So where was this stated?
-- And where was it stated to be a omniverse, just because Marvel is it doenst necesserly mean that DC is it ... Yet ... Or ever.

when I say omniverse, I mean the entire collection of all realities.

Their are multiverses, each nth dimension.

Their are megaverses, vertigo, etc.

Their are universes, countless.

And their is an omniverse, the collection of all realities in a company.

Its hypocritical of you to think only Marvel has this, when all companies do.

Thanos_THOTU

Originally posted by Board Walker
when I say omniverse, I mean the entire collection of all realities.
Which realities?

Where n being 1-10 I presume ...
You usually use n when counting overlaping degrees:
+ n * 360

And where did you find out that the 5th itself is a Multiverse?
Can we get any scans?

Vertigo is outside DC's canon ...

In each Multiverse ...

Which were stated where?
--Mr Master just proved that DC + Hypertime = Multiverse.

It's called speculation when there don't exist evidence suporting your theory.

nvrbeenwthagirl

Originally posted by Mr Master
Isn't Bat-Mite an Imp?

http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/3790/h2zn3.th.jpg

Right hand lower corner.

You have proof?

Batmite being shown isn't him being shown in the fifth dimension. And Hypertime was always all of the else worlds, tangets, and stuff. The infinite earths is an all together differernt multiverse. and of course, vertigo has infinite multiverses itself, and it is just a subset of the main dcu. thanks. I know my DCU. Let's not for get DCU animated is also a multiverse and is NOT shown in the kingdom.

Board Walker

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Batmite being shown isn't him being shown in the fifth dimension. And Hypertime was always all of the else worlds, tangets, and stuff. The infinite earths is an all together differernt multiverse. and of course, vertigo has infinite multiverses itself, and it is just a subset of the main dcu. thanks. I know my DCU. Let's not for get DCU animated is also a multiverse and is NOT shown in the kingdom.

We are pretty much saying the same thing, I think the last thing to do now would be to post scans and issue numbers to prove it, this way they will not think we are speculating or lying.

Batman-Prime

Originally posted by Mr Master
Isn't Bat-Mite an Imp?

http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/3790/h2zn3.th.jpg

Right hand lower corner.

You have proof?

And the Batmite floats before robin, so we see it's in our dimension wink

Batman-Prime

BTW I don't think DC would call itself an Omniverse, this would be quite unfitting and maybe even illogical, but one thing is for sure, an Universe (or Multiverse) in the DC-verse is not the same as an Universe (or Multiverse) in the Mavel-verse (or Omniverse). But DC is made from an infinite number of Universe, as is Marvel, it doesn't matter how often MArvel multiplies infinityxinfinity, the result will always be the same, Infinity.

I find it funny how an company tries to increase it's feats with mere Terms, like Megaverse or Multiverse. DC was more clever in this case, AM destroyed an infnite number of Universes, all part of an single DC-verse. You can't have an greater feat then destroying EVERYTHING (infinite number of Universes or Planes) from the beginning (Dawn of Creation), it doesn't matter in which Universe wink

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BTW I think an Omniverse or Megaverse would lessen the power of an Multiverse by far, because if an villain destroys just one or two Marvel-Multiverses it isn't as impressiv as someone who consumes 99% of the DC-verse big grin

Nikkolas

Abraxas solo's.

guy222

Originally posted by Nikkolas
Abraxas solo's.

Abraxas>Parallax?

Nikkolas

Yes.

There was a whole topic about that already.

Long one, too.

Board Walker

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
BTW I don't think DC would call itself an Omniverse, this would be quite unfitting and maybe even illogical, but one thing is for sure, an Universe (or Multiverse) in the DC-verse is not the same as an Universe (or Multiverse) in the Mavel-verse (or Omniverse). But DC is made from an infinite number of Universe, as is Marvel, it doesn't matter how often MArvel multiplies infinityxinfinity, the result will always be the same, Infinity.

I find it funny how an company tries to increase it's feats with mere Terms, like Megaverse or Multiverse. DC was more clever in this case, AM destroyed an infnite number of Universes, all part of an single DC-verse. You can't have an greater feat then destroying EVERYTHING (infinite number of Universes or Planes) from the beginning (Dawn of Creation), it doesn't matter in which Universe wink

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Yeah I was trying to explain the DC verse in marvel terms, but it doesnt work well.

The verse is infinite, and when AM consumed all by 5, it would be in marvel terms he consumed the marvel omniverse.

Except every universe of DC is infinite upon infinite realities and time lines.

It is hard to explain in marvel terms.

Batman-Prime

Originally posted by Board Walker
Yeah I was trying to explain the DC verse in marvel terms, but it doesnt work well.

The verse is infinite, and when AM consumed all by 5, it would be in marvel terms he consumed the marvel omniverse.

Except every universe of DC is infinite upon infinite realities and time lines.

It is hard to explain in marvel terms.

Yes my Friend, this is the spot where Marvel tries to be better then DC, Terms, nothing more nothing less. They use Terms as Multiverse and Universe because they know that one might be fooled and think that they work the same way in both companies, and that an Megaverse or Omniverse would be considered superior to an DC Universe or Multiverse, that's why we shouldn't dismiss logic when comparing cosmics, logic > Terms. 1000 x Infinity = Infinity. DC = Marvel.

I also tended to stick to Marvel terms, but why even bother, there is no Marvel Universe or Multiverse in DC, DC has its own, they are different, they work different, there are no Heraldlevels, Skyfatherlevels in DC, DC has it's own powerscale, it works different. The vs threads are funny, but it's not accurate to rank the DC heroes in Marvel Terms IMHO.

Maybe that's the reason for all the heat in the cosmic vs threads, simple Terms and the wish of the Marvel company to be better then DC big grin

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Anyway, BW, I think you do real fine, I like your posts, they always give me another good point of view. book

guy222

Originally posted by Nikkolas
Yes.

There was a whole topic about that already.

Long one, too.

I will keep my answer to me. Long threads are interesting

guy222

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Yes my Friend, this is the spot where Marvel tries to be better then DC, Terms, nothing more nothing less. They use Terms as Multiverse and Universe because they know that one might be fooled and think that they work the same way in both companies, and that an Megaverse or Omniverse would be considered superior to an DC Universe or Multiverse, that's why we shouldn't dismiss logic when comparing cosmics, logic > Terms. 1000 x Infinity = Infinity. DC = Marvel.

I also tended to stick to Marvel terms, but why even bother, there is no Marvel Universe or Multiverse in DC, DC has its own, they are different, they work different, there are no Heraldlevels, Skyfatherlevels in DC, DC has it's own powerscale, it works different. The vs threads are funny, but it's not accurate to rank the DC heroes in Marvel Terms IMHO.

Maybe that's the reason for all the heat in the cosmic vs threads, simple Terms and the wish of the Marvel company to be better then DC big grin

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Anyway, BW, I think you do real fine, I like your posts, they always give me another good point of view. book

I will second that. BW and U do real fine. Its a pleasure reading your posts smile

Galan007

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Where did you read that it was an omniverse? Superman saves the Omniverse:
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/4233/adventuresofsuperman617fi2.th.jpg

Nikkolas

THat is indeed worth a complete and total lol.

starlock

That is very impressive (superman & Galan007)
Now i wonder who will try and debate it? (if it can be)

Nikkolas

Hyperbole.

Clearly stated in 52 that DC is nothing more than a multiverse.

And, as explaiend in COIE, it was simply a universe that split apart into mini-universes.

So, there is no omniverse in DC.

Unless we take into account the DCAU, etc.

Galan007

Originally posted by starlock
That is very impressive (superman & Galan007)
Now i wonder who will try and debate it? (if it can be) Yeah, I just wanted to throw out there, the fact that DC apparently has an Omniverse as well...

Galan007

Originally posted by Nikkolas
Hyperbole.

Clearly stated in 52 that DC is nothing more than a multiverse.

And, as explaiend in COIE, it was simply a universe that split apart into mini-universes.

So, there is no omniverse in DC.

Unless we take into account the DCAU, etc. Dude, the scan clearly says OMNIVERSE...

Not Multiverse, or Mini-Universes......... OMNIVERSE.

If you don't like it, write DC a letter.

Batman-Prime

Originally posted by Galan007
Superman saves the Omniverse:
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/4233/adventuresofsuperman617fi2.th.jpg

Damn, I tried to explain everything, bothered to think about Marvel and DC and you come up with this one scan and destroyed everything mad

.

No seriously, you never cease to amaze me, my utmost respect Galan007. thumbup1

Board Walker

Nicely put!

Thanos_THOTU

Originally posted by Galan007
Superman saves the Omniverse:
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/4233/adventuresofsuperman617fi2.th.jpg
Indeed, so how many omniversal threats are there, like Jim Jaspers, Captain Brittain With Excalibur and the Amulet of Right and so forth?

Batman-Prime

Originally posted by Board Walker
Nicely put!

My humble apologies BW, you were right I was wrong. surrender

Board Walker

Originally posted by Galan007
Superman saves the Omniverse:
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/4233/adventuresofsuperman617fi2.th.jpg

As I tried explaining earlier, the main DC verse is an omniverse.

The stories are opposite of Marvel, in that they start at the top, then focus down; well marvel usually starts with a universe then goes upward in scope.

Batman-Prime

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Indeed, so how many omniversal threats are there, like Jim Jaspers, Captain Brittain With Excalibur and the Amulet of Right and so forth?

Anti-Monitor and Parallax for example big grin

Board Walker

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
My humble apologies BW, you were right I was wrong. surrender

No need to appologize, you were not mistaken in what you said, we both said the same thing just in different terms.

Most people do not believe me at fist, until scans are shown to validate what I have said, which then makes those who flamed and called me a liar, look like asses.

Board Walker

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Anti-Monitor and Parallax for example big grin

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This is true, also Ares with the godwave.

Which also goes to show how powerful DS is, in that he wielded the DC omniverse like a toy and grabbed Ares with it.

Batman-Prime

Originally posted by Board Walker
No need to appologize, you were not mistaken in what you said, we both said the same thing just in different terms.

Most people do not believe me at fist, until scans are shown to validate what I have said, which then makes those who flamed and called me a liar, look like asses.

Thanks. I would never call you a liar! And I tend to agree more with you then disagree smile

Nikkolas

Anti-Monitor never even had the power of one universe, sorry.

And Parallax was simply universal, sorry.

DC neve rhad an omniverse.

"The secret of 52 is that the multiverse still exists."

So...yes. DC is a multiverse.

Board Walker

Originally posted by Nikkolas
Anti-Monitor never even had the power of one universe, sorry.

And Parallax was simply universal, sorry.

DC neve rhad an omniverse.

"The secret of 52 is that the multiverse still exists."

So...yes. DC is a multiverse.

Its on panel, the omniverse.

DC is not the same as marvel, the DC verse is an omniverse, and within the DC verse their is an infinite number of multiverses and universes within every "atom", infinite time lines, infinite realities and possibilites.

Most people do not like to accept it (those being anti DC and pro marvel) but DC operates on a different scale, wave length then Marvel does.

Secondly, you didn't read the comics did you? The AM absorbed the entire DC omniverse, except for 5 lone realities, but even those 5 realities were infinite in them selves, and unto themselves are omniverses.

Do you understand how DC operates, do you even try?

Parallax only universal? He went to the dawn of creation, zero hour, before all universes, all multiverses, before everything, their are scans around here some where with on panel "Multiverse" from zero hour.

Parallax was battling a fully blood lusted Spectre and defeated him.

Nikkolas

Other scans say otherwise.

If you don't like it, write DC a letter.

Nikkolas

"The secret of 52 is that the multiverse still exists."

Also on panel is the Monitor saying that DC is nothing more than a universe split into mini-universes.

Batman-Prime

) which equals the ininite Universes of the Marvel Omniverse, sorry.

Parallax did almost the same, sorry.

DC can be called an Omniverse, but even if we forget the terms we end with an Infinite number of Universes equal to the infinite number of Universes in the MArvel Ominiverse.

DC Multiverses work differently then their Marvelian counterparts, and as said, terms are nice, DC=Marvel, equal in size and power, sorry. smile

Galan007

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Indeed, so how many omniversal threats are there, like Jim Jaspers, Captain Brittain With Excalibur and the Amulet of Right and so forth? Omniversal threats are inconsequential, as to why that scan was posted.

Symmetric Chaos

Originally posted by Nikkolas
Other scans say otherwise.

If you don't like it, write DC a letter.

You realize that niether really has a true Omniverse right?

In fact it wouldn't be hard for them to constrct and true omniverse within their respective domains they simply haven't.

Both are a multiverse.

Board Walker

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
You realize that niether really has a true Omniverse right?

In fact it wouldn't be hard for them to constrct and true omniverse within their respective domains they simply haven't.

Both are a multiverse.

Omniverse, multiverse, names for the same thing.

Both collections of universes.

Galan007

Originally posted by Nikkolas
Also on panel is the Monitor saying that DC is nothing more than a universe split into mini-universes. That was in 1986.

In case you haven't noticed, a few changed have happened since then.

Namely DC having it's own Omniverse.... wink

Thanos_THOTU

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Anti-Monitor and Parallax for example big grin

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Anti-Monitor was a Multiversal threat stated on panel, and Paralax just destroyed one universe, and remade it from scratch.

Thanos_THOTU

Originally posted by Board Walker
As I tried explaining earlier, the main DC verse is an omniverse.

The stories are opposite of Marvel, in that they start at the top, then focus down; well marvel usually starts with a universe then goes upward in scope.
Yeah you tried, but you had no basis for it, you avoided the question four times in a row, you didn't post any scans nor told us any issue number.
Galant however was the one that actually could back up the statement, the credit goes to him.

Board Walker

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Yeah you tried, but you had no basis for it, you avoided the question four times in a row, you didn't post any scans nor told us any issue number.
Galant however was the one that actually could back up the statement, the credit goes to him.

I avoided the question? Which question did I avoid, please show me.

The reason I usually do not post scans is because I do not have a scanner.

The fact remains, that everything I said, was and is true, regardless of how much you may dislike to admit it.

Galan I thank for posting the scans, but I am the one who stated everything beforehand.

So when some one calls me a bold faced liar, they really should stop to think before posting, because most of what I say is true.

Thanos_THOTU

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
You realize that niether really has a true Omniverse right?

In fact it wouldn't be hard for them to constrct and true omniverse within their respective domains they simply haven't.

Both are a multiverse.
Do you realize that you are wrong?
-- If the panel says that have Omniverses consisting of an infinite amount of infinite Multiverses than they have Omniverses consisting of an infinite amount of Multiverses.

Symmetric Chaos

Originally posted by Board Walker
Omniverse, multiverse, names for the same thing.

Both collections of universes.

Exactly.

BTW when the Presence's had appeard during the GEB thing it was huge and golden . . . I believe Marvel has someone fitting that description. Intriguing no?

Board Walker

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Exactly.

BTW when the Presence's had appeard during the GEB thing it was huge and golden . . . I believe Marvel has someone fitting that description. Intriguing no?

This is true...I didn't think of it that way.

Symmetric Chaos

Originally posted by Board Walker
This is true...I didn't think of it that way.

laughing

Ize19

Kinda like the Living Tribunal's "Spectral, hooded ally" in the retconning of the Brothers, no?

Batman-Prime

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Do you realize that you are wrong?
-- If the panel says that have Omniverses consisting of an infinite amount of infinite Multiverses than they have Omniverses consisting of an infinite amount of Multiverses.

Lets assume you have an infinite number of Universes, you split an infinite number from it (God I know how this sounds but anyway, let's continue) and call it Multiverse, you repeat the process an infinite time, then you gather an infinite amount of those Multiverse, each with an fininite amount of the original infinite number of Universes and call it Megaverse, you repeat the thing again an infinite time, now you call your collection of an ininite number of Universes an Omniverse.

Well, Thanos, the thing is, other people don't bother with the splitting and terminology, they simplify and say Multiverse, which is btw an infinite number of Universes.

No offense btw.

Thanos_THOTU

Originally posted by Board Walker
I avoided the question? Which question did I avoid, please show me.
Well either that or you didn't read my posts, but since you quoted them I assume you did.

Then maybe it's time to get one?
- You could at least give us the series issue number.
So we'd know where to look.

Well in my eyes it was a lucky guess, you said that DC had a Omniverse becase Marvel did, and you didn't give us any hint where it was stated or shown.
Now since you say you know, you would be able to guve us the number of an issue where it was stated that it was an Omniverse, you may even say which number the scan Galan posted was from (without PM him of course)

A post without proof which turns about to be right because someone else proved it ... Hmm ... I wonder who should get the credit for that one, hmm?

Thanos_THOTU

Mr Master

Originally posted by Galan007
Superman saves the Omniverse:
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/4233/adventuresofsuperman617fi2.th.jpg

This is glorious!

This only proves how much of a joke the DC Reality is.

The collapse of Two Planets can destroy a so called "Omniverse", laughing out loud

and Superman is the Omniverse's saviour.

There better be more to that scan,

or DC just went WAY down on my respect list. smile

Thanos_THOTU

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Lets assume you have an infinite number of Universes, you split an infinite number from it (God I know how this sounds but anyway, let's continue) and call it Multiverse, you repeat the process an infinite time, then you gather an infinite amount of those Multiverse, each with an fininite amount of the original infinite number of Universes and call it Megaverse, you repeat the thing again an infinite time, now you call your collection of an ininite number of Universes an Omniverse.

Well, Thanos, the thing is, other people don't bother with the splitting and terminology, they simplify and say Multiverse, which is btw an infinite number of Universes.

No offense btw.
Well in Marvel they have the explanation that there are different level of infinite. Even cosmic cube beings such as Beyonders have infinite power and are omnipotent.
Because no matter how many Silver Surfer you combind, it can be a centillion (10^600) it still wont equal the power of a Beyonder.
It's beyond the comperhension of the human mind.

Batman-Prime

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Now since you say you know, you would be able to guve us the number of an issue where it was stated that it was an Omniverse, you may even say which number the scan Galan posted was from (without PM him of course)

Adventure of Superman 617. If you follow the scan and read the link you see it.

http://img155.imageshack.us/my.php?image=adventuresofsuperman617fi2.jpg
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

BTW Thanos, just because someone doesn't has a scanner does not mean they are not allowed to say what they think, and BW was right, the credid goes also to him.

Mr Master

Originally posted by Board Walker
DC is not the same as marvel, the DC verse is an omniverse, and within the DC verse their is an infinite number of multiverses and universes within every "atom", infinite time lines, infinite realities and possibilites.

Secondly, you didn't read the comics did you? The AM absorbed the entire DC omniverse, except for 5 lone realities, but even those 5 realities were infinite in them selves, and unto themselves are omniverses.

Do you have any proof for these claims?

Only question I'll address to you, if you reply with a story or insults,

Ignored you shall be. smile

Originally posted by Board Walker
Parallax only universal? He went to the dawn of creation, zero hour, before all universes, all multiverses, before everything, their are scans around here some where with on panel "Multiverse" from zero hour.

Parallax erased ONE Universe, nothing more.

Thanos_THOTU

Originally posted by Mr Master
This is glorious!

This only proves how much of a joke the DC Reality is.

The collapse of Two Planets can destroy a so called "Omniverse", laughing out loud

and Superman is the Omniverse's saviour.

There better be more to that scan,

or DC just went WAY down on my respect list. smile

Maybe the scientist's exaggurated it a bit, they said that their reality and the phantom zone was saved, and that now the omniverse was saved ... How would a being such as Superman be capable of doing it anyways?

Mr Master

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
BTW Thanos, just because someone doesn't has a scanner does not mean they are not allowed to say what they think,

If they don't have a scanner, they should atleast know the issue and # they are receiving their info from.

Otherwise they're full of it.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
and BW was right, the credid goes also to him.

laughing

Galan007

Originally posted by Mr Master
This is glorious!

This only proves how much of a joke the DC Reality is.

The collapse of Two Planets can destroy a so called "Omniverse", laughing out loud

and Superman is the Omniverse's saviour.

There better be more to that scan,

or DC just went WAY down on my respect list. smile

The phantom planet from another reality was somewhat of an anomoly when it came into the mainstream DCU...

Picture this anomoly planet kind of like Abraxas. Whatever new reality it entered, would crumble...

However, that matters not.

The point I was proving is that DC does in fact have an Omniverse..

Batman-Prime

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Well in Marvel they have the explanation that there are different level of infinite. Even cosmic cube beings such as Beyonders have infinite power and are omnipotent.
Because no matter how many Silver Surfer you combind, it can be a centillion (10^600) it still wont equal the power of a Beyonder.
It's beyond the comperhension of the human mind.

If you have a different level of ininity in Marvel (which by all logic can't be a true infinity) with the highest level of infinity being the Omniverse and you don't have an final level of ininity in the Marvel Multiverse (or as we learned an Omniverse) you end up with Marvel-verse infinity = DC-verse infinity. So we know one thing for sure, not by terms just by logic. Marvel Multiverse < DC Multiverse. DC Multiverse (or Omniverse :P ) = Marvel Omiverse.

The comprehension of the human mind invented, draw and wrote everything we discuss here, i doubt it's limits, honestly.

Again no offense Thanos smile

Nikkolas

"The secret of 52 is that the multiverse still exists."

Galan007

Originally posted by Nikkolas
"The secret of 52 is that the multiverse still exists." "Superman just saved the Omniverse"

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/4233/adventuresofsuperman617fi2.th.jpg

Thanos_THOTU

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
If you have a different level of ininity in Marvel (which by all logic can't be a true infinity) with the highest level of infinity being the Omniverse and you don't have an final level of ininity in the Marvel Multiverse (or as we learned an Omniverse) you end up with Marvel-verse infinity = DC-verse infinity. So we know one thing for sure, not by terms just by logic. Marvel Multiverse < DC Multiverse. DC Multiverse (or Omniverse :P ) = Marvel Omiverse.

The comprehension of the human mind invented, draw and wrote everything we discuss here, i doubt it's limits, honestly.

Again no offense Thanos smile

.
In fact there are different levels on infinity.

Infinity e^x inifnity > Infinity x^infinity > infinity
Where x > 1

Mr Master

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Maybe the scientist's exaggurated it a bit, they said that their reality and the phantom zone was saved, and that now the omniverse was saved ... How would a being such as Superman be capable of doing it anyways?

It doesn't really matter much to tell ya the truth T.

That scan doesn't explain what this "Omniverse" is.

Or what it consists of.

Marvel tells you in plain english On Panel and in th bio, a precise explanation of what the Omniverse is:

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/7932/omniis1cz2.th.jpg
(excerpt from the Ofiicial Marvel Handbook 2006)

On Panel verification

The Watcher and Her, are searching for Quasar who Quantum Jumped out of the 616 Multiverse into the Multiverse that houses the New Universe.

"He is somewhere Beyond the Mutliverse of Dimensions"
http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/8348/q1nv7.th.jpg
"What's Beyond the Multiverse?"

"Beyond the Multiverse Exists an Omniverse, a Continuum of Multiverses"

Watcher goes on to say it has never been proven.

But let's proceed.

"I refuse to believe you (Quasar) are dead, you must be in the Omniverse"
http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/6355/q2wu1.th.jpg

Quasar returns to the 616 Multiverse

"I know atleast it's the right Multiverse"
http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/1828/q3pj4.th.jpg

In the end, the Marvel Omniverse is confirmed ON PANEL

http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/8622/q4vk9.th.jpg
"You went Outside the Multiverse into the greater Omniverse"

This is the Marvel Omniverse! (thoroughly explained)

Thanos_THOTU

Originally posted by Mr Master
It doesn't really matter much to tell ya the truth T.

That scan doesn't explain what this "Omniverse" is.

Or what it consists of.

Marvel tells you in plain english On Panel and in th bio, a precise explanation of what the Omniverse is:

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/7932/omniis1cz2.th.jpg
(excerpt from the Ofiicial Marvel Handbook 2006)

On Panel verification

The Watcher and Her, are searching for Quasar who Quantum Jumped out of the 616 Multiverse into the Multiverse that houses the New Universe.

"He is somewhere Beyond the Mutliverse of Dimensions"
http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/8348/q1nv7.th.jpg
"What's Beyond the Multiverse?"

"Beyond the Multiverse Exists an Omniverse, a Continuum of Multiverses"

Watcher goes on to say it has never been proven.

But let's proceed.

"I refuse to believe you (Quasar) are dead, you must be in the Omniverse"
http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/6355/q2wu1.th.jpg

Quasar returns to the 616 Multiverse

"I know atleast it's the right Multiverse"
http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/1828/q3pj4.th.jpg

In the end, the Marvel Omniverse is confirmed ON PANEL

http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/8622/q4vk9.th.jpg
"You went Outside the Multiverse into the greater Omniverse"

This is the Marvel Omniverse! (thoroughly explained)
You've got a point, omniverse simply means "all reality" or "all realities" so by omniverse you could mean a simple a couple of universes. As long as they are all that exists.

Board Walker

Originally posted by Mr Master
If they don't have a scanner, they should atleast know the issue and # they are receiving their info from.

Otherwise they're full of it.

laughing

MM you act as if you are usually right, but your opinion does not equal truth, IE silver surfer being made into a universe roll eyes (sarcastic)

Or the HOTU being a multiverse roll eyes (sarcastic)

Thanos_THOTU

Originally posted by Board Walker
You make it sound like I have been wrong about so much, please do list the things I have been wrong about.
Seriously I have better things to do than list elses mistakes ...

If your in collage you should spend your free time on homeworks ... Not in this forum.

You live there or what--simply tell us that you got an issue at home and that you'll tell the numbre once you get home.

In truth, you usually are wrong.

Galan007

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
You've got a point, omniverse simply means "all reality" or "all realities" so by omniverse you could mean a simple a couple of universes. As long as they are all that exists. If this was the case, he wouldn't have used the word Omniverse...

He would have said Universe, or this reality, or Multiverse.

Instead, he said Omniverse....... Which is the entirety of DC.

I figured some peeps would try and dismiss this statement, but I didn't expect it from you.

Thanos_THOTU

Originally posted by Board Walker
MM you act as if you are usually right, but your opinion does not equal truth, IE silver surfer being made into a universe roll eyes (sarcastic)

Or the HOTU being a multiverse roll eyes (sarcastic)

So before you go on a 5 page tangent of posting the same thing again and again, which is nothing but your skewed opinion, really do think and try to formulate a coherent, respectful and politely expressed opinion; rather then a high and mighty arrogant opinion which again is nothing but your own opinion.
It's not like you've read the issues anyways ...
You demands scan's, and not just one but you need people to scan the entire series for you ...
If a site is aproved by Marvel than it is canon, so if it says Multiverse it is a Multiverse.
It's like when Lucifer created his "universe", which actually was a Multiverse.

Board Walker

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Seriously I have better things to do than list elses mistakes ...

If your in collage you should spend your free time on homeworks ... Not in this forum.

You live there or what--simply tell us that you got an issue at home and that you'll tell the numbre once you get home.

In truth, you usually are wrong.

I spend my time how I so chose to do so.

In your opinion I am usually wrong.

You need to realize your opinion, or Mr. master's opinion does not dictate what is right or wrong.

Do you know how ridiculous you and Mr. Master, and others, sound when speaking of DC?

Really it is a two way mirror, in your opinion I may be wrong, but does it mean that in fact and truth that I am? No.

Now unless you think you have the ability to dictate what is right and wrong, that your opinion is above all others, then really I think you need to reflective and reevaluate your position in reality.

P.S. Really do list what I have been wrong about, I guarantee it will be purely of your opinionated perception.

Thanos_THOTU

Originally posted by Galan007
If this was the case, he wouldn't have used the word Omniverse...

He would have said Universe, or this reality, or Multiverse.

Instead, he said Omniverse....... Which is the entirety of DC.

I figured some peeps would try and dismiss this statement, but I didn't expect it from you.
In Latin Omni- means All and verse-, reality.
I don't try and dissmiss it, it just sound a bit odd, you have any other scans of them mentioning the Omniverse?

Mr Master

Originally posted by Galan007
However, that matters not.

The point I was proving is that DC does in fact have an Omniverse..

I understand that, but what does this Omniverse consist of?

Or this the only scan or issue that you can find as proof?

It doesn't explain anything, it's just a term in this case.

This "Omniverse" can literally mean, ALL the DC Universes, nothing more,

which can lead to, ALL the DC Universes in it's Multiverse.

Unless you can provide proof, that DC is more than a Multiverse,

it's still a Multiverse to me, that was termed an "Omniverse" by these "Scientist"

Yet I posted scans from much more qualified individuals concerning the DC Reality, and it was dismissed with,

"that's just an Imp in another Reality, not in the 5th Dimension"

Funny, when the DC Reality was being explained by again, Qualafied characters:

Hypertime

http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/3241/h1kp6.th.jpg

http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/3790/h2zn3.th.jpg

http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/2398/29141982td0.th.jpg

"Hypertime

Parallel Timelines which comprise ALL Reality

... the Universe they (the Linear Men) oversee,

is actually Part of a Multiverse, (Hypertime)

an Infinite Realm of Parallel Worlds"

To me, this is DC, a full and thorough description of it's Reality.

Your scan is just a word, without meaning, except for it's basic meaning,

Omni = ALL.

Omniverse which would then = ALL Universes.

Not the same as Marvel, Omniverse = ALL Megaverses & Multiverses.

Board Walker

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
It's not like you've read the issues anyways ...
You demands scan's, and not just one but you need people to scan the entire series for you ...
If a site is aproved by Marvel than it is canon, so if it says Multiverse it is a Multiverse.
It's like when Lucifer created his "universe", which actually was a Multiverse.

big grin

I posted scans, which stated it was a universe, I posted the scans to the updated marvel hand book, bio of the LT, which stated it was a vast power source (no where does it say TOAA), and that it was one universe.

You tend to only remember what you want to remember.

Board Walker

Originally posted by Mr Master
I understand that, but what does this Omniverse consist of?

Or this the only scan or issue that you can find as proof?

It doesn't explain anything, it's just a term in this case.

This "Omniverse" can literally mean, ALL the DC Universes, nothing more,

which can lead to, ALL the DC Universes in it's Multiverse.

Unless you can provide proof, that DC is more than a Multiverse,

it's still a Multiverse to me, that was termed an "Omniverse" by these "Scientist"

Yet I posted scans from much more qualified individuals concerning the DC Reality, and it was dismissed with,

"that's just an Imp in another Reality, not in the 5th Dimension"

Funny, when the DC Reality was being explained by again, Qualafied characters:

Hypertime

http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/3241/h1kp6.th.jpg

http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/3790/h2zn3.th.jpg

http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/2398/29141982td0.th.jpg

"Hypertime

Parallel Timelines which comprise ALL Reality

... the Universe they (the Linear Men) oversee,

is actually Part of a Multiverse, (Hypertime)

an Infinite Realm of Parallel Worlds"

To me, this is DC, a full and thorough description of it's Reality.

Your scan is just a word, without meaning, except for it's basic meaning,

Omni = ALL.

Omniverse which would then = ALL Universes.

Not the same as Marvel, Omniverse = ALL Megaverses & Multiverses.

Unless we can find proof that DC is more then a multiverse, then it is not?

Its on panel that is a omniverse, nor is it up to you to dictate what a omniverse is.

I find it comical, how vastly you view omniverse in DC and in Marvel, and formulate a definition for each which best fits your own personal opinion.

DC has an omniverse, the main DC verse is the omniverse. If you actually read DC moderately you would know this.

So instead of knocking DC, or stating how DC has lost your almight and great respect, go read the actual comics, so you can better understand and comprehend the mechanics of DC; they are not the same as Marvel.

Mr Master

Originally posted by Board Walker
MM you act as if you are usually right, but your opinion does not equal truth, IE silver surfer being made into a universe

Which I was completely right about, so bad example.

Originally posted by Board Walker
Or the HOTU being a multiverse

Which I was completely right about, so bad example.

Originally posted by Board Walker
So before you go on a 5 page tangent of posting the same thing again and again, which is nothing but your skewed opinion,

As opposed to your 20 pages of Bull shit ...

I get what you mean.

Originally posted by Board Walker
really do think and try to formulate a coherent, respectful and politely expressed opinion; rather then a high and mighty arrogant opinion which again is nothing but your own opinion.

laughing

Get proof to back up your claims,

or go away with this sanctimonious Bull shit ...

Mr Master

Originally posted by Board Walker
Unless we can find proof that DC is more then a multiverse, then it is not?

Its on panel that is a omniverse, nor is it up to you to dictate what a omniverse is.

I find it comical, how vastly you view omniverse in DC and in Marvel, and formulate a definition for each which best fits your own personal opinion.

DC has an omniverse, the main DC verse is the omniverse. If you actually read DC moderately you would know this.

So instead of knocking DC, or stating how DC has lost your almight and great respect, go read the actual comics, so you can better understand and comprehend the mechanics of DC; they are not the same as Marvel.

Hypertime

http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/3241/h1kp6.th.jpg

http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/3790/h2zn3.th.jpg

http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/2398/29141982td0.th.jpg

"Hypertime

Parallel Timelines which comprise ALL Reality

... the Universe they (the Linear Men) oversee,

is actually Part of a Multiverse, (Hypertime)

an Infinite Realm of Parallel Worlds"

whistling

Board Walker

Originally posted by Mr Master
Which I was completely right about, so bad example.

Which I was completely right about, so bad example.

As opposed to your 20 pages of Bull shit ...

I get what you mean.

laughing

Get proof to back up your claims,

or go away with this sanctimonious Bull shit ...

Again you believe you were right about Silver Surfer being made into a universe? Please do show me on panel where it states universe, just show one scan from the comic where SS meets LT, where it says universe.

You can't can you?

Before telling some one else to back up their claims, you should first do so yourself.

Posting irrelevant scans which are interpreted solely by your opinion, is not proof.

Really get over yourself mm.

Galan007

Originally posted by Mr Master
Yet I posted scans from much more qualified individuals concerning the DC Reality, and it was dismissed with,

"that's just an Imp in another Reality, not in the 5th Dimension"It was "dismissed" with that statement because it didn't show the 5th dimension itself, it just showed a single 5D Imp....... which is definatley not the same thing.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Your scan is just a word, without meaning, except for it's basic meaning,

Omni = ALL.

Omniverse which would then = ALL Universes.Ok, ALL Universes in DC would be the exact same thing as ALL Multiverses in DC, wouldn't it. wink

it equals the same ammount.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Not the same as Marvel, Omniverse = ALL Megaverses & Multiverses. Did I ever once compare Marvel and DC's Omniverse?

I simply proved the existance of an Omniverse in DC...... Nothing more.

Mr Master

Originally posted by Board Walker
Again you believe you were right about Silver Surfer being made into a universe? Please do show me on panel where it states universe, just show one scan from the comic where SS meets LT, where it says universe.

You can't can you?

"Would you like a moment of GODHOOD"

http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/6844/lt2vi7.th.jpg

GODHOOD is not Universal Awareness simple one,

otherwise Captain Marvel and all his successors are "GODS"

Quasar was a "GOD"

and anyone else that can tap Universal Consciousness if a "GOD"

hysterical

Originally posted by Board Walker
Posting irrelevant scans which are interpreted solely by your opinion, is not proof.
Really get over yourself mm.

Meaningless gibberish.

Board Walker

Originally posted by Mr Master
"Would you like a moment of GODHOOD"

http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/6844/lt2vi7.th.jpg

GODHOOD is not Universal Awareness simple one,

otherwise Captain Marvel and all his successors are "GODS"

Quasar was a "GOD"

and anyone else that can tap Universal Consciousness if a "GOD"

hysterical

Meaningless gibberish.

Again you interpret the scan purely as you chose to do so, yet no where in that entire comic, is the word universe mentioned once.

Did I say universal awareness? No I said vast cosmic awareness, in akin to Photon, omniversal awareness.

I'm still waiting, provide one scan showing the word universe from that comic.

Mr Master

Originally posted by Galan007
It was "dismissed" with that statement because it didn't show the 5th dimension itself, it just showed a single 5D Imp....... which is definatley not the same thing.

Well I dismiss your scan then, cause to me it's just a term,

as in ALL the DC Universes.

Not an Omniverse like Marvel that contains countless Multiverses.

Originally posted by Galan007
Ok, ALL Universes in DC would be the exact same thing as ALL Multiverses in DC, wouldn't it. wink

it equals the same ammount.

Not in the least smile

A Multiverse can contain ALL of DC's Universes.

The Marvel Omniverse is FAR greater in scale.

Originally posted by Galan007
Did I ever once compare Marvel and DC's Omniverse?

I simply proved the existance of an Omniverse in DC...... Nothing more.

Again,

what does this "Omniverse" consist of?

If you don't have that description, (like the one I posted, On Panel & Bio)

then we're still back at DC has a Multiverse (ALL it's Universes)

which can be termed Omniverse, since it means ALL Universes.

darthgoober

Originally posted by Board Walker
Again you interpret the scan purely as you chose to do so, yet no where in that entire comic, is the word universe mentioned once.

Did I say universal awareness? No I said vast cosmic awareness, in akin to Photon, omniversal awareness.

I'm still waiting, provide one scan showing the word universe from that comic.
Hey BW let me ask you something. When Flash saved all of those people by transporting them out of the city before that bomb went off, was he going near light speed like was stated ON PANEL, or was he going many times the speed of light(which is what it would have to be to work out mathematically)?

Galan007

Originally posted by Mr Master
Not in the least smile

A Multiverse can contain ALL of DC's Universes.

The Marvel Omniverse is FAR greater in scale. We know the DCU as a whole consists of multiple Multiverses, (i.e. Elseworlds and Vertigo), to name a few....

So yes, ALL Universes in DC would still equal an Omniverse

Originally posted by Mr Master
Again,

what does this "Omniverse" consist of?

If you don't have that description, (like the one I posted, On Panel & Bio)

then we're still back at DC has a Multiverse (ALL it's Universes) Of course you think this...

But that's fine, I'm not going to argue over this for numerous pages.

DC consists of multiple Multiverses = Omniverse = ALL Universes

Mr Master

Originally posted by Board Walker
Again you interpret the scan purely as you chose to do so, yet no where in that entire comic, is the word universe mentioned once.

I found a bigger word for you, simple one:

http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/3268/ss1ep6.th.jpg

MULTIVERSE!!!

On with the next excuse.

Originally posted by Board Walker
Did I say universal awareness? No I said vast cosmic awareness, in akin to Photon, omniversal awareness.

So Photon is a GOD?

laughing

Originally posted by Board Walker
I'm still waiting, provide one scan showing the word universe from that comic.

yawn

Now provide me with proof of all this:
Originally posted by Board Walker
the DC verse is an omniverse, and within the DC verse their is an infinite number of multiverses and universes within every "atom", infinite time lines, infinite realities and possibilites.

Secondly, you didn't read the comics did you? The AM absorbed the entire DC omniverse, except for 5 lone realities, but even those 5 realities were infinite in them selves, and unto themselves are omniverses.

Waiting for proof.

No scanner?

Tell me the issues, and I'll post them for you.

Mr Master

MARVEL OMNIVERSE!

Proved with the Official Bio and On Panel evidence:

Marvel tells you in plain english On Panel and in th bio, a precise explanation of what the Omniverse is:

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/7932/omniis1cz2.th.jpg
(excerpt from the Ofiicial Marvel Handbook 2006)

On Panel verification

The Watcher and Her, are searching for Quasar who Quantum Jumped out of the 616 Multiverse into the Multiverse that houses the New Universe.

"He is somewhere Beyond the Mutliverse of Dimensions"
http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/8348/q1nv7.th.jpg
"What's Beyond the Multiverse?"

"Beyond the Multiverse Exists an Omniverse, a Continuum of Multiverses"

Watcher goes on to say it has never been proven.

But let's proceed.

"I refuse to believe you (Quasar) are dead, you must be in the Omniverse"
http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/6355/q2wu1.th.jpg

Quasar returns to the 616 Multiverse

"I know atleast it's the right Multiverse"
http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/1828/q3pj4.th.jpg

In the end, the Marvel Omniverse is confirmed ON PANEL

http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/8622/q4vk9.th.jpg
"You went Outside the Multiverse into the greater Omniverse"

This is the Marvel Omniverse! (thoroughly explained)

Board Walker

I dont back up what I say?

Supreme being of THIS reality"
http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=4873346

Next page
"The first day of my reign ended with me destroying the entire UNIVERSE"
http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=4873347

"THIS actualitys supreme being"
"A perilous astral imbalance in THE UNIVERSE"
http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=4873356

In the actual issue:
"Only you could miss the end of the UNIVERSE"
"That is how the UNIVERSE came to an end"
http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=4873371

Later on in that same issue:
"I can sense the UNIVERSE returning to its full glory and scope"
http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=4873372

Look at the fact that he absorbed at first just the Mbodies of Eternity and Infinity as depicted and THEN continued on absorbing the rest of the universe (whom they are but representations of).

Thanos wasnt standing in a void contemplating about repercussions. He contemplated repercussions after absorbing the Mbodys of LT, Infinity and Eternity and as such continued to absorb the rest of the ambient universe at which point there was a void:
http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=4915808
http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=4915809

After absorbing the ambient universe around him, an action triggered by fear of repercussions, Adam Warlock arrived from an outside dimension only for Thanos to tell him how he missed the end of the universe:
http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=4915810
http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=4873371

darthgoober

Originally posted by Board Walker
Again you interpret the scan purely as you chose to do so, yet no where in that entire comic, is the word universe mentioned once.

Did I say universal awareness? No I said vast cosmic awareness, in akin to Photon, omniversal awareness.

I'm still waiting, provide one scan showing the word universe from that comic.
Originally posted by darthgoober
Hey BW let me ask you something. When Flash saved all of those people by transporting them out of the city before that bomb went off, was he going near light speed like was stated ON PANEL, or was he going many times the speed of light(which is what it would have to be to work out mathematically)?

Nikkolas

Sad thing is, Mr. Master showed another scan of when Eternity and Infinity, in M-Bodies, left a universe and it collapsed and they started a new universe, proving that M-Bodies have the same power as the actual being.

So, yes, Thanos abosred the universe and then continued on.

Nikkolas

I love it.

LT>IG>HOTU>LT which is your logic by saying he only had the power of one universe.

Mr Master

Originally posted by Board Walker
I dont back up what I say?

This has nothing to do with this thread.

What a desperate boy you have become.

You can't address all the fallacies you just posted, you get STOMPED when you ask for a mentioning of the term "Universe" in the SS issue, and now you plagerize other's posts and make it out to be your own.

laughing out loud

Again:

Now provide me with proof of all this:
Originally posted by Board Walker
the DC verse is an omniverse, and within the DC verse their is an infinite number of multiverses and universes within every "atom", infinite time lines, infinite realities and possibilites.

Secondly, you didn't read the comics did you? The AM absorbed the entire DC omniverse, except for 5 lone realities, but even those 5 realities were infinite in them selves, and unto themselves are omniverses.

Waiting for proof.

No scanner?

Tell me the issues, and I'll post them for you.

Mr Master

Originally posted by Board Walker
Thanos wasnt standing in a void contemplating about repercussions. He contemplated repercussions after absorbing the Mbodys of LT, Infinity and Eternity and as such continued to absorb the rest of the ambient universe at which point there was a void:

After absorbing the ambient universe around him, an action triggered by fear of repercussions, Adam Warlock arrived from an outside dimension only for Thanos to tell him how he missed the end of the universe:

Tell me,

do you see the word Multiverse mentioned here?

Epiphany:

"Can't you see he's blaiming himself for failing to kill you and save the Universe?"

Captain Marvel:

"think of all the times you saved the Universe"

"Truth is. the Universe was living on borrowed time"

"the truth is, the Universe did END with a whimper,

Eternity didn't want to keep going"

http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/3217/cm2cj1.th.jpg

That's strange, because it is the MULTIVERSE

Backside Front Page:

"ENTROPY is the Son of,

Eternity, the Cosmic Being whose Essence Encompasses the ENTIRETY of the MULTIVERSE ...

Entropy has enlisted Captain Marvel in a Quest to Destroy His Father,

... Eternity and End All Creation"

http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/1967/cm1ls8.th.jpg

SO much for your plagerized post. smile

starlock

The word games are not a strong stance when debating,it will lead to no good. In my opinon

in my opinon i will agree DC has a omniverse

the explanation is good enough for me(only me)
it said omniverse,and i will take the planet anomaly situation as a threat to the omniverse

Can a chair hold 2 tons,when a character that is clearly to heavy sits in it,can the hulk lift that much weight,why dont his feet sink in the ground?
did the flash really run that fast as writer stated? why are there no burn marks in the ground after the human torch scorches it?did it happen?
do all the kids and adults break out their calculators when reading a comic?
i am just making some bull and showing it goes both ways

some runs on a comic who's writers dont write the character correctly are disreguarded as said in rules? if thats an argument fine
the rules dont state you have to have a scanner or issue #'s

The fair debate would be to go with the writers wrote down in the comic period. but that wont happen.it s their comic their world and if they write it whos to say anything else?

should we read and then analize everything that is written in a said book then cross it out ,put in our words over what we dissagreed with and pass it to the other guy next to you? without him seeing what was originaly there?

then why should we take scans and words in them at all? why not choose a member we all respect and have him(her ) just tell us what really is and is not?

i am not insulting or intending to label any one..

Mr Master

Originally posted by starlock
in my opinon i will agree DC has a omniverse

the explanation is good enough for me(only me)
it said omniverse,and i will take the planet anomaly situation as a threat to the omniverse

How does this describe what the DC Omniverse consists of?

Originally posted by starlock
Can a chair hold 2 tons,when a character that is clearly to heavy sits in it,can the hulk lift that much weight,why dont his feet sink in the ground?
did the flash really run that fast as writer stated? why are there no burn marks in the ground after the human torch scorches it?did it happen?
do all the kids and adults break out their calculators when reading a comic?
i am just making some bull and showing it goes both ways
some runs on a comic who's writers dont write the character correctly are disreguarded as said in rules? if thats an argument fine
the rules dont state you have to have a scanner or issue #'s
The fair debate would be to go with the writers wrote down in the comic period. but that wont happen.it s their comic their world and if they write it whos to say anything else?
we read and then analize everything that is written in a said book then cross it out ,put in our words over what we dissagreed with and pass it to the other guy next to you? without him seeing what was originaly there?
then why should we take scans and words in them at all? why not choose a member we all respect and have him(her ) just tell us what really is and is not?
i am not insulting or intending to label any one..

Respectfully I must say,

I have no idea what this has to do with the subject at hand.

But for the record, before I accept DC and an Omniverse, I must know what a DC Omniverse is.

I know and I presented proof from the Official Bio and from On Panel sources what an Omniverse is in Marvel,

now I think it's only fair to ask for the same info concerning DC.

Otherwise, (IMO)

The DC Omniverse is still the DC Multiverse.

ALL the DC Universes = DC Omniverse or DC Multiverse

(which ever term one prefers)