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Well, with Apocalypse defeated, Martian Mind is bored. And since he keeps starting shit in our mongoose thread, I thought I'd oblige him. He claims MM can beat Captain Atom. Naturally, there is some contention on this issue. So we did what we always do.

We made a vs. thread.

Captain Atom Vs. Martian Manhunter.

NO LIMITS. Which means anything captain can do is legal, and anything J'onn can do is legal. (Which includes becoming Fernus.) Both fighters are at their highest power levels. Captain Atom's armor is not breachable for this fight.


I'm gonna duck into a foxhole for this one.

I hope batdude can stop by and join me in defending captain atom.

Captain Atom at his peak has punked Hal, Apollo, Majestic, Firestorm etc. his energy manipulation is great, his reistance is great and his strenght after being willinly amped beyond the martians punks him. It's a good fight, But Captain Atom, being at peak, doens't job and get's the job done

Martian Manhunter ftw. durfist!

Haven't we gone over that Hal feat, buddy?

I am Undecided

Doop wins. 313

I thought we had settled that between the two issues there wasn't a predetermined time. So he may have gotten his sleep by the issue. I'm pretty sure the writers didn't intend such a thing.

Originally posted by Redatom65
I thought we had settled that between the two issues there wasn't a predetermined time. So he may have gotten his sleep by the issue. I'm pretty sure the writers didn't intend such a thing.
It was daylight when Hal collapsed under the pressure of the building and still daylight when he woke so I doubt it was too long.

regardless, this is still a fight between The Manhunter and Atom. Atom's willpower shoud be enough to defeat The Martian. He's writtan to his best in this situation

Yeah ive got to go with Atom.. His immune to psi-attacks, and can amp himself up to Supes level, I dont really see how the Martian can take him out.. MM can phase all he wants but eventually his got to dematerialized to attack Capt. Atom, thats when Omni-blast is of best used..

Originally posted by Badabing
Martian Manhunter ftw. durfist!

durfist

Don't know enough about either of them to say who wins but just to be the opposite of Bada.

Captain Atom ftw!

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
Doop wins. 313

So Validus, You continue to argue the point of the Hal fight. What do you say about this fight? I did happen to pm Batdude since I haven't seen him post in a Captain Atom v.s thread in god knows how long and he agrees with me in this case.

Nathaniel ftw. 13

Don't worry about Vally-Wally, Redatom. He agrees that CA would beat MM in a fight. He's said so before. He just hates the fact that Hal actually lost to Captain Atom in a fight. Because that's just SO terrible... dur

Mind Rape for the win. I really dont' see what powers cap has that can tag a superspeed moving, shape changing, invisible,intangible foe. MM should be virtually impossible to detect. even if you have supersenses, his tp can make you think your seeing things. MM doesn't have to fight Cap to win. He can evade and mind rape Cap.

Originally posted by batdude123
Nathaniel ftw. 13

Don't worry about Vally-Wally, Redatom. He agrees that CA would beat MM in a fight. He's said so before. He just hates the fact that Hal actually lost to Captain Atom in a fight. Because that's just SO terrible... dur
durnutnut durfistThe Dur smilies are taking over KMC!

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Mind Rape for the win. I really dont' see what powers cap has that can tag a superspeed moving, shape changing, invisible,intangible foe. MM should be virtually impossible to detect. even if you have supersenses, his tp can make you think your seeing things. MM doesn't have to fight Cap to win. He can evade and mind rape Cap.

Okay, Captain Atom can absorb psychic power making it void, and if one tries a mindrape on him, he can transfer energy into their brain f*cking it up (see Armageddon). Atom's energy manipulation and projection is more than J'onn can handle. And unlike Firestorm, Nathaniel can actually transmute organic tissue.

Atom ftw here.

Originally posted by batdude123
Nathaniel ftw. 13

Don't worry about Vally-Wally, Redatom. He agrees that CA would beat MM in a fight. He's said so before. He just hates the fact that Hal actually lost to Captain Atom in a fight. Because that's just SO terrible... dur

aye, I was throughly outnumbered in the captain v.s hal jordan thread. At least Validus sides with us here! dur

Originally posted by batdude123
Okay, Captain Atom can absorb psychic power making it void, and if one tries a mindrape on him, he can transfer energy into their brain f*cking it up (see Armageddon). Atom's energy manipulation and projection is more than J'onn can handle. And unlike Firestorm, Nathaniel can actually transmute organic tissue.

Atom ftw here.

Except Jonn has complete control over his brain waves. ANd given the fact that he can tap into his fernus power lvls if he chooses, He should have no problem mind raping cap. Or john makes some trusty clones all with fernus lvl power and they play kick ball with Caps head. Cap is good. But he ain't that good.

You tell em Nvr!

I don't know if Cap CAN be mindraped..... isn't he basically a quantum elemental?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Except Jonn has complete control over his brain waves. ANd given the fact that he can tap into his fernus power lvls if he chooses, He should have no problem mind raping cap. Or john makes some trusty clones all with fernus lvl power and they play kick ball with Caps head. Cap is good. But he ain't that good.

J'onn locked away the Fernus part of his personality in the depths of his mind. He can't tap into it whenever he pleases.

And as for J'onn splitting up his body... it would just be more corpses on the battle field.

Energy projection and manipulation win the day here.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
I don't know if Cap CAN be mindraped..... isn't he basically a quantum elemental?

Yes.

He created his own universe, Even if Jonn spreads his numbers Cap's amped energy supply leaves Jonn out cold or worse

Originally posted by batdude123
J'onn locked away the Fernus part of his personality in the depths of his mind. He can't tap into it whenever he pleases.

And as for J'onn splitting up his body... it would just be more corpses on the battle field.

Energy projection and manipulation win the day here.

How many beings in the DCU have Energy manip and projection in the DCU? As if Jonn isn't used to that. Jonn controls every molecule of his body. ANd he's faster than Cap. I can see Jonn forming holes around caps blast, going ingible, reading caps mind and just evading every attack. Cap has been knocked out by Wonder Woman in one punch. I'm sure Jonn can manage a knock out if he can get close enough.

Oh, and nvr... if you want J'onn to call on his Fernus reserved powers... CA can just call upon the Quantum Field for extra power. You know, that's how he created and destroyed his own UNIVERSE.

lol @ Wonder Woman ownage

Captain Atom punked a Majestic who had a terminal illness,was getting hs ass beat by Apollo until he tricked the fool into going to the sun,and he was having difficulty with engineer.

Jonn has engineers Shapeshifting,Apollo's Physical stats and is more versatile then Majestic.


Atom is NOT immune to Telepathy.he is able to absorb psionic energy,but he takes it in too fast and he Quantum leaps.

How can it cross your minds that one of Comics most powerful Telepaths won't be able to overload him?

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic220.jpg

There he reads the mind of everyone on earth.

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic211.jpg

There he is keeping the GOD Vishnu asleep with his TP

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic145.jpg
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic146.jpg

There he is casting an illusion in an omnipotent beings mind WHILE using TP to give Flash X-ray vision

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic139.jpg
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic140.jpg

There he is using his TP to stop the SPECTRE mid-rant with a telepathic shout and then dragging the JLa's collective asses to the astral plain

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic137.jpg
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic138.jpg

there he peirces through Maggedons psychic Wake for THOUSANDS of miles to communicate with Superman.Maggedon could affect planet fulls of DARKSEID level beings.

If MAXIMA could overload Atom with TP then Jonn beats his ass into the ground.

Atoms much vaunted "energy manipulation"is useless against a Phaser who can also go invisible

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic216.jpg
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic217.jpg


Hell Jonn can stay invisible and still beat the crap out of him
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic201.jpg

Who gives a rats ass if Atom can omni-blast?Jonn has total control of his molecu;lar structure and a healing factor better then Wolverines.

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic108.jpg
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic109.jpg

There Jonn stops a blast from Superman blue that could destroy THE WORLOGOG a universal item of power,and all he suffers are burns.

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic113.jpg
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic114.jpg
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic115.jpg

There Jonn is caught in a full scream from Asmodel,The most powerful bull angel and a near skyfather being,and he comes out fine.He then gets caught in an explosion and set aflame,yet 7 pages later he's still standing.

Now,ATom can't fight,hurt,see or damage Jonn.I could stop now,but i may as well put the final nail in the coffin.

Atom won't even be able to MOVE before Jonn punks him to the SH*thouse.

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic157.jpg

Jonn casually flying at Mach 11

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic168.jpg
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic169.jpg

Jonn flys around the entire world in the time it takes a person to draw breath.

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic184.jpg
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic185.jpg

Jonn flys across an entire city in the time it takes the bullets to leave the gun and he gets there before they even reach the target.He then speedblitzes the robots.


Atom,like Apoc gets WTF pwned.

Originally posted by batdude123
Oh, and nvr... if you want J'onn to call on his Fernus reserved powers... CA can just call upon the Quantum Field for extra power. You know, that's how he created and destroyed his own UNIVERSE.

That's all fine and Dandy,But this thread would be spite if we went that far. So i'm going by the best showing of Cap to date. Which would be a combine of His indestructible armor and his master of power in wildstorm. Cap is Uber, but jonn is just too fast, to intangible, to shape changy, to invisible for him to really lay a blast or a finger. He'd basically be a standing target for jonn to just zip in and out and tag, until one blow knocks cap out. If They had to fight power for power, they can take each other out. but jonn isn't going to fight stupid with cap.

lol @ Apollo ownage

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
How many beings in the DCU have Energy manip and projection in the DCU? As if Jonn isn't used to that. Jonn controls every molecule of his body. ANd he's faster than Cap. I can see Jonn forming holes around caps blast, going ingible, reading caps mind and just evading every attack. Cap has been knocked out by Wonder Woman in one punch. I'm sure Jonn can manage a knock out if he can get close enough.

He's not faster than Captain Atom. What's his max speed level? I think I saw him once going somewhere between Mach 20-100? Yeah, and Captain Atom's base speed is 1/2 c, and he can increase it via quantum amping. He can also amp his strength and durability as well.

It would be bad news for J'onn if he tried to enter Nathaniel's mind, so that's out.

Cap has been knocked out by Wonder Woman before? And Batman's hurt WW with a pressure point strike. Shit happens in comics. That's not a good way to base how durable he is. He certainly has better feats than that.

If J'onn gets in close, it would just favor CA even more. You have to remember that he has access to an unlimited supply of every single energy. He doesn't just fire blasts. He can use shields, and transmute folks as well. I wouldn't be surprised if he could also make himself intangible by using quantum energy. He's done just about everything else with it.

Atom ftw.

Originally posted by batdude123
He's not faster than Captain Atom. What's his max speed level? I think I saw him once going somewhere between Mach 20-100? Yeah, and Captain Atom's base speed is 1/2 c, and he can increase it via quantum amping. He can also amp his strength and durability as well.

It would be bad news for J'onn if he tried to enter Nathaniel's mind, so that's out.

Cap has been knocked out by Wonder Woman before? And Batman's hurt WW with a pressure point strike. Shit happens in comics. That's not a good way to base how durable he is. He certainly has better feats than that.

If J'onn gets in close, it would just favor CA even more. You have to remember that he has access to an unlimited supply of every single energy. He doesn't just fire blasts. He can use shields, and transmute folks as well. I wouldn't be surprised if he could also make himself intangible by using quantum energy. He's done just about everything else with it.

Atom ftw.
LMAO. Cap has never portrayed even close to the lvl of ability you are giving him credit for. While MM is everything that I said he is and more.

curious my martian friend, do you post the same scans in every thread? Considering this is captain atom writtan at his full ability, then we won't be seeing him being knocked out by Wonder Woman. even with him blocking off an attack from Superman Blue doesn't mean he can block an attack from captain atom. Captain Atom can still keep up with him in sheer speed, though the martian is faster, Captain Atom's speed is fair enough for him to keep up with him. Captain Atom's energy Manipulation is well enough to put The Martian in a coma. Atom's strength amped by the endless draw of the Quantom Field will put that of The Martians at shame. The only thing the martian has in this fight is going intangible, but it won't win him this fight. And The Martian reading Nate's mind would be ugly.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Cap has been knocked out by Wonder Woman in one punch.

whistling

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g126/SpunkySmurph/DC/Scans/JLA-ALeagueOfOnepg037.jpg
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g126/SpunkySmurph/DC/Scans/JLA-ALeagueOfOnepg038.jpg

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
LMAO. Cap has never portrayed even close to the lvl of ability you are giving him credit for. While MM is everything that I said he is and more.

What the f*ck are you squabbling about, nvrhadaclue? Everything I said is legit.

Originally posted by batdude123
What the f*ck are you squabbling about, nvrhadaclue? Everything I said is legit.

Now there you go calling names. I haven't attacked you. All I did was debate. ANd it woudl seem that nvrhadaclue has educated the board on a many a DC character and on DC cosmics. I will refrain from Responding to you now. I see no need in getting myself upset becuz you chose to attack me when I only did what we do on the boards. DEBATE.

Originally posted by Redatom65
curious my martian friend, do you post the same scans in every thread? Considering this is captain atom writtan at his full ability, then we won't be seeing him being knocked out by Wonder Woman. even with him blocking off an attack from Superman Blue doesn't mean he can block an attack from captain atom. Captain Atom can still keep up with him in sheer speed, though the martian is faster, Captain Atom's speed is fair enough for him to keep up with him. Captain Atom's energy Manipulation is well enough to put The Martian in a coma. Atom's strength amped by the endless draw of the Quantom Field will put that of The Martians at shame. The only thing the martian has in this fight is going intangible, but it won't win him this fight. And The Martian reading Nate's mind would be ugly.

?

Superman blue has energy feats that put Atom to shame,learn what your talking about.

His speed doesn't mean shit,tell me,how can he follow someone who is invisible AND faster?

What strength feats do you have to support your claim?none,so hush up about strength.

So,you ignore the overload?denial doesn't win debates laddy.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Now there you go calling names. I haven't attacked you. All I did was debate. ANd it woudl seem that nvrhadaclue has educated the board on a many a DC character and on DC cosmics. I will refrain from Responding to you now. I see no need in getting myself upset becuz you chose to attack me when I only did what we do on the boards. DEBATE.

And I thought you'd never shut up.

Originally posted by Martian_mind
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Superman blue has energy feats that put Atom to shame,learn what your talking about.

Though Superman Blue has impressive feats, I'm quite the superman fan and well aware of he can and can't do. Captain Atom has some feats that to show his superiority over him



i said he was possibly faster and even if so not by much, Atom's gone pretty darn fast. Invisibility won't win the martian this fight regarless



hush up? hush up? that is rather rude isn't it? Check the Dc database. His strength is amped by his sheer will.




aye and you to are in clear denial.

Originally posted by batdude123
And I thought you'd never shut up.

SO anyone who doesn't agree with you has to shut up? You may want to start your own debate board. You can call it assholesOnly. I'm sure it will be a thrill. My opinion is that Jonn wins. nvrhadaclue knew that Batmite was the one who joker really used in emperor joker when the rest of the board wouldn't believe me. Nvrhadaclue also said vertigo was indeed a multiverse when the rest of the board wouldn't listen. Nvr also reminded the board of Darkseid's true form, world's funnest being cannon and many other things. But what ever. You can continue to be an ******* to anyone who doesn't agree with you and isn't a "popular" poster.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
SO anyone who doesn't agree with you has to shut up? You may want to start your own debate board. You can call it assholesOnly. I'm sure it will be a thrill. My opinion is that Jonn wins. nvrhadaclue knew that Batmite was the one who joker really used in emperor joker when the rest of the board wouldn't believe me. Nvrhadaclue also said vertigo was indeed a multiverse when the rest of the board wouldn't listen. Nvr also reminded the board of Darkseid's true form, world's funnest being cannon and many other things. But what ever. You can continue to be an ******* to anyone who doesn't agree with you and isn't a "popular" poster.

it was just a pun, take it easy there...

How come no-one has countered my overload method?

can someone actually show a scan of his ever so awesome mind-resistance?i can show him being overloaded by Tp,I can show you scans where it states how he almost died when he entered the astral plain.

I'd like to here how invisibility and phasing don't win him this fight when they negate any and all advantages Cap has.

And the DC database is a bio,we don't use bios.Show me a strength FEAT from a comic book,and then talk about his superior strength.

Originally posted by Martian_mind
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Superman blue has energy feats that put Atom to shame,learn what your talking about.

His speed doesn't mean shit,tell me,how can he follow someone who is invisible AND faster?

What strength feats do you have to support your claim?none,so hush up about strength.

So,you ignore the overload?denial doesn't win debates laddy.
Actually try the other way around..

http://new.photos.yahoo.com/rroldz/album/576460762371500212/photo/294928803989733092/102
Fernus got nothing against this guy..

Atom can see EM spectrum, tracking Martian invisible or not is not a problem..

http://new.photos.yahoo.com/rroldz/album/576460762371500212/photo/294928803989721318/87
Shows him amping in there.. His got better feat in amp strength departmen but am to lazy to find it.lol

atom's pretty damn fast too...

http://img75.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainatom052039wv.jpg

http://img75.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainatom052077tb.jpg


I'm calling it a night for now. Til tomorrow

Originally posted by Redatom65
it was just a pun, take it easy there...

I won't. That shit was said for all times I was actually right and it stuck and it wasn't fair. So please no nvr puns.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Well, with Apocalypse defeated, Martian Mind is bored. And since he keeps starting shit in our mongoose thread, I thought I'd oblige him. He claims MM can beat Captain Atom. Naturally, there is some contention on this issue. So we did what we always do.

We made a vs. thread.

Captain Atom Vs. Martian Manhunter.

NO LIMITS. Which means anything captain can do is legal, and anything J'onn can do is legal. (Which includes becoming Fernus.) Both fighters are at their highest power levels. Captain Atom's armor is not breachable for this fight.


I'm gonna duck into a foxhole for this one.

Guy is taking Capt Atom

Originally posted by Redatom65
atom's pretty damn fast too...

http://img75.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainatom052039wv.jpg

http://img75.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainatom052077tb.jpg


I'm calling it a night for now. Til tomorrow


Yeah.but Jonns flown faster then an energy blast from Maggedon and Fought the Flash.Atom was struggling there and all that shows is his Travel speed.What about reaction times?

That still doesn't matter as When Jonn goes Invisible he can't be seen by Superman,who also can see in the EMP spectrum.

Night..

Originally posted by Roldz
Actually try the other way around..

http://new.photos.yahoo.com/rroldz/album/576460762371500212/photo/294928803989733092/102
Fernus got nothing against this guy..

Atom can see EM spectrum, tracking Martian invisible or not is not a problem..

http://new.photos.yahoo.com/rroldz/album/576460762371500212/photo/294928803989721318/87
Shows him amping in there.. His got better feat in amp strength departmen but am to lazy to find it.lol

What is the first scan about exactly?all it shows is Atom punching a guy and draining energy from an alternate universe....

So can Superman,but he doesn't see Jonn.Hell Jonn has hidden himself from heat seeking material as well.When Jonn wants to be undetected,he will remain undetected.

So his amping feat is KOing some guy?Jonn has koed Triumph,lifted the heavenly chariot whilst aflame ETC...

Plus can SOMEONE counter the overload,PLZ if it's you know,possible...

Originally posted by Martian_mind
What is the first scan about exactly?all it shows is Atom punching a guy and draining energy from an alternate universe....

So can Superman,but he doesn't see Jonn.Hell Jonn has hidden himself from heat seeking material as well.When Jonn wants to be undetected,he will remain undetected.

So his amping feat is KOing some guy?Jonn has koed Triumph,lifted the heavenly chariot whilst aflame ETC...

Plus can SOMEONE counter the overload,PLZ if it's you know,possible...

Its Nekron and they're fighting in his own realm, his amp his strength in that fight as well.. Its main DC universe not alternate..

Quantum field allows him to view all forms of energy signature/radiation.. Akin to Surfer tracking skills..

No its opening that sphere.. His also match strength w/ Magestic, Power Girl, Superman.. etc..

I dont see why he cant just absorbed unlimeted supply of energy and damp it to Q zone rather than absorbing it directly to him, therefore not overloading and time jumping..

Originally posted by Roldz
Its Nekron and they're fighting in his own realm, his amp his strength in that fight as well.. Its main DC universe not alternate..

Quantum field allows him to view all forms of energy signature/radiation.. Akin to Surfer tracking skills..

No its opening that sphere.. His also match strength w/ Magestic, Power Girl, Superman.. etc..

I dont see why he cant just absorbed unlimeted supply of energy and damp it to Q zone rather than absorbing it directly to him, therefore not overloading and time jumping..


Jonn Phases and turns invisible,he leaves no trace of his existence on this plain,GL Hal has been unable to track him.

Jonn has matched Strength with Superman,Triumph,Ulraman,Wonder woman,Etrigan ETC

Whats stopping him is the fact that he has not been able to do this on panel.If we assume abilities based off powers then Jonns molecular control means that he can turn into a being who absorbs enrgy,or that he can become stronger then Doomsday.

Atom has NO WAY to win,invisibility,Speed,phasing,strength and Telepathy win Jonn the match.

Originally posted by Martian_mind
Jonn Phases and turns invisible,he leaves no trace of his existence on this plain,GL Hal has been unable to track him.

Jonn has matched Strength with Superman,Triumph,Ulraman,Wonder woman,Etrigan ETC

Whats stopping him is the fact that he has not been able to do this on panel.If we assume abilities based off powers then Jonns molecular control means that he can turn into a being who absorbs enrgy,or that he can become stronger then Doomsday.

Atom has NO WAY to win,invisibility,Speed,phasing,strength and Telepathy win Jonn the match.

This is what i thought of first John phase/invisibility ability, actually i though he does this by going through a diff dimension but ive found no proof of it.. So as his still in this reality Quantum field plays a big a part of it (Explained in Takion and CA series) once he calls for it, he sees and tracks whats around it, in this scenario John..

Nathaniel has match strength w/ skyfather level im talkin about Nekron (infinite supply of energy equals unknown strength amping level)

http://new.photos.yahoo.com/rroldz/album/576460762371500212/photo/294928803989725371/92
This 1 of his absorbing abilities, his done so on Parallax energies w/ Ray, GL help dough.. Also the scan i posted in earlier post w/ Nekron he absorb his energies and returned it to the Q field all this without time jumping.. Which means he can absorb energies funnels it directly to the Q field..

Invisibility CA has counter to it..
Speed CA approaches near SOFL without amping..
Phasing John needs to materialized in order to attack CA counters it via Omni blast or directional blast..
Strength CA can match it..
Telepathy CA got defenses for it..

Hows John going to counter say Psionic drain, Matter manipulation?

There are far more examples of Atom absorbing huge amounts of energy quickly and Jumping then there are of him not jumping.one does not equal thje norm.

He is able to tap the quantum feild,track Jonn and prepare a counter-attack?maybe if Jonn were standing still for the exchange.All that has been shown is Atom has good travel speed,nowhere has he shown reflexes on the level to block a blitz from Jonn,as Jonn HAS shown the reflexes.


Ever notice how when he stops to absorb energy he never moves or lets up?If he is absorbing Jonns psionmic energy he's going to have to be tracking Jonn,Absorbing energy and avoiding Jonns invisible physical attacks all at the same time.He will never manage that.

he can't counter all things at once.He will be vulnerable in an area at all stages of the battle whilst Jonn will constantly be able to attack him from all angles probing and exploiting the weaknesses.This is simply a waiting game for Jonn who can press the attack till Atom falls,simple as that.


In Jonns own words "this is not combat,you where beaten before you came here."

Originally posted by batdude123
Okay, Captain Atom can absorb psychic power making it void, and if one tries a mindrape on him, he can transfer energy into their brain f*cking it up (see Armageddon). Atom's energy manipulation and projection is more than J'onn can handle. And unlike Firestorm, Nathaniel can actually transmute organic tissue.

Atom ftw here.

when did that happen in armageddon? no one tryed do mind rape captain atom, and he send alot of information to someones mind.

Originally posted by Martian_mind
There are far more examples of Atom absorbing huge amounts of energy quickly and Jumping then there are of him not jumping.one does not equal thje norm.

In the past that could be the case but present Atom is not only capable
of absorbing massive amount of energy, but is also able to time jump at will..

http://img443.imageshack.us/my.php?image=11pb6.jpg
http://img443.imageshack.us/my.php?image=12zl3.jpg
Here his max out absorbtion ability that the excess source energy seeks other vessels, no time jumping.. Shows his able to control the amount of energy being transfered, but did not have the capacity to take it all..

http://img283.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captatom43156lu.jpg
He doesnt even need to absorb it unto himself but rather transfer it directly to the field.. This way he can absorb energy as quickly as he want without the danger of time jumping..

Even if the absorbtion is slow it still weakens the opponent and adding more power to him, therefore another points for him..

http://img345.imageshack.us/my.php?image=172mp.jpg
His able to enhance himself via quantum field, his shown to do these with strength, speed and hearing. Its only fair to assume thats his capable of doing this to his reflexes.. How else could he hang out to the likes of Magestic, Hal or this guy
http://img124.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jlquarterly1329305gv.jpg

http://img256.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captatom23227xz.jpg
Not only his able to assist the situation but act as well in half a second on that scan, its more than likely that he has enough reflex to block/parry/avoid blitzes from John..


You mean like the scans i posted above, his able to do anything he wants while trying to absorbs.. Again tracking John wont be hard and avoiding physical attacks nothing a sphere shield could'nt handle..
http://img261.imageshack.us/my.php?image=extremejustice03205lz.jpg
Somethin like that..
You know Atom could also turn invisible, dont know how John could counter that?

This will only happens if Atom fights idioticly, but at his best his far faster light speed and can see a lot farther.. Using that to his advantage he can turn the tide, stop countering and go on offensive..
John powers are impressive but its just not enough to put down someone with Captain Atoms powers.. Im not even counting his uber feats; reality/mater manipulation..

Captian Atom wins


In a curbstomp.There is nothing Jonn can do.

Originally posted by Martian_mind
Captian Atom wins

cry

there there, you still have Trickster's possible sig to look foward to

That killed me on the inside.


oh,and do you really think Tricker has a chance?look into your heart Luke,you know it to be true.....

i'm not biast haermm it'll be reallllly entertaining though

As trickers on your team,i understand you can't say He'll get stomped.

where's batdude...He should be here to, to stomp your shattered self-esteem

You can't stomp on microscopic shards Red.

you can if your the atom....

Batdudes the Atom?


So thats the reason Digi calls him small.....

no...that's because...well you wouldn't understand......

He left you so you took of 2 inches leaving him with one?


Or was that Tricker?


I swear,you get dumped so much i can't keep track of whose wangs you amputate.

Originally posted by Martian_mind
He left you so you took of 2 inches leaving him with one?


Or was that Tricker?


I swear,you get dumped so much i can't keep track of whose wangs you amputate.

lol, since when am I the one that get's dumped? It's pretty amusing you still refer to Trickster as Tricker, like he's some kind of American Holiday...

zUnlike your pathetic mortal self,i can make my any wish reality,and henceforth,all shall know trickster as Tricker!!

Originally posted by Martian_mind
zUnlike your pathetic mortal self,i can make my any wish reality,and henceforth,all shall know trickster as Tricker!! I find the small case "z" fairly unessicary.

zunlike you i can decide what is necessary and what isn't.

just like you can decide martian<Atom

Considering it was the result of underhandedness i have mentally blocked the incident you are referring to from my mind.


Biased.

Originally posted by Martian_mind
Captian Atom wins

Originally posted by Redatom65



case anyone missed it, Martian gave up his pride and said Atom wins