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Fight on earth. One day prep. No BFR.

Darkseid

versus

Apocalypse, Dr. Doom, Magneto, and Classic Juggernaut

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Apocalypse... by himself...

Darkseid is overated.

That pic of Apoc Doom Rules. DS wins. Telepathy Beats all of them down pretty hard.

1. These guys would get stomped in a straight up battle.
2. You gave Darkseid prep.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
That pic of Apoc Doom Rules. DS wins. Telepathy Beats all of them down pretty hard.

All of them are resistant to telepathy: Mag, Juggs, and Doom all have helmets that are antiTP, and Apoc is a powerful TP himself.

Also, they have one day prep.

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
1. These guys would get stomped in a straight up battle.
2. You gave Darkseid prep. He also gave Apocalypse prep...

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
1. These guys would get stomped in a straight up battle.
2. You gave Darkseid prep.

The team also has prep.

Originally posted by bigbran
He also gave Apocalypse prep... Why, I hadn't seen you there, Trickster.

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
Why, I hadn't seen you there, Trickster. Just taking my trial run of being Trickster/a fanboy.

Now... lets get down to busy-ness:

Darkseid knows Spectre, and that's fine. Apocalypse wins.

Was that Tricker or Guy?

Originally posted by masterbruce
All of them are resistant to telepathy: Mag, Juggs, and Doom all have helmets that are antiTP, and Apoc is a powerful TP himself.

Also, they have one day prep.

Are you serious? DS can control 3 billion Damites who are Superior in everyway to superman. And u think they are going to resist his TP? WTF. Juggs helmet is no problem. Juggs can't be OE away becuz of the thread rules, but his helmet certainly can.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Are you serious? DS can control 3 billion Damites who are Superior in everyway to superman. And u think they are going to resist his TP? WTF. Juggs helmet is no problem. Juggs can't be OE away becuz of the thread rules, but his helmet certainly can.

DS can't even control Superman, so his TP is no prob to these TP resistant villains.

Originally posted by Martian_mind
Was that Tricker or Guy? Take a guess... Now that I look at it, it is sort of a combined super-being.

Here, is what I think should be a good example for you to guess at:

YOU F*CKING IDIOT!!! APOCALYPSE CAN BEAT DARKSEID!!! STOP BEING SUCH A FANBOY!!! Apocalypse has pwned Loki, and has stalemated the High Evolutionary.
Apocalypse 10/10.

Owned!

Originally posted by masterbruce
DS can't even control Superman, so his TP is no prob to these TP resistant villains.

UM no. Just No. He controlled Supergirl mighty easily. Superman is DC's flag ship character and as such is protected from plot device powers. We dont' take jobbing into account here on KMC. DS should be able to completely pwn wtf superman with TP. Superman isn't magically resistant to Tp.

Originally posted by bigbran
Take a guess... Now that I look at it, it is sort of a combined super-being.

Here, is what I think should be a good example for you to guess at:

YOU F*CKING IDIOT!!! APOCALYPSE CAN BEAT DARKSEID!!! STOP BEING SUCH A FANBOY!!! Apocalypse has pwned Loki, and has stalemated the High Evolutionary.
Apocalypse 10/10.

Owned!


Hmmmm......Soujaboy?

Originally posted by Martian_mind
Hmmmm......Soujaboy? Exactly.

Damn i'm good.

Doom with prep is...well...good.
Apocalypse with prep is...well...good.
Magneto with prep is...well...not bad. (he usually resorts to stealing some nukes though)
Juggernaut with prep is...well...Juggernaut.

Darkseid with prep is...well...outnumbered and probably going to lose.

Originally posted by Martian_mind
Damn i'm good. Now take a guess...

"YOU'RE OUT OF THE TOURNEY NOW!!! I AM HEREBY RECLAIMING THE TOP POSITION OF THE TOURNEY BECAUSE YOU RUINED IT!!! OK, I will make everyone redraft, so that the tourney can go back to normal... I even gave him time, and I know he can't be sleeping!

Hmm... I wonder why the whole tourney got smashed... I mean, It couldn't possibly be because I did what I did, is it? No, of course not...
DL IS INCOMPETANT!!!

Does it count as being a homosexual if the lights were off?"

One lame attempt to discredit a feat indeed.

Supes resisted. So...yeah. DS' telepathy ain't that tough.



You're right.

The 3 billion draximites jobbed.

We can't take that into account because we don't like it.



Except, he did. So...yeah. Your word < canon.

Originally posted by bigbran
Now take a guess...

"YOU'RE OUT OF THE TOURNEY NOW!!! I AM HEREBY RECLAIMING THE TOP POSITION OF THE TOURNEY BECAUSE YOU RUINED IT!!! OK, I will make everyone redraft, so that the tourney can go back to normal... I even gave him time, and I know he can't be sleeping!

Hmm... I wonder why the whole tourney got smashed... I mean, It couldn't possibly be because I did what I did, is it? No, of course not...
DL IS INCOMPETANT!!!

Does it count as being a homosexual if the lights were off?"

Dude,get a sh*t apoc siggy and i couldn't tell u and Tricker apart

Originally posted by Nikkolas
One lame attempt to discredit a feat indeed.

Supes resisted. So...yeah. DS' telepathy ain't that tough.



You're right.

The 3 billion draximites jobbed.

We can't take that into account because we don't like it.



Except, he did. So...yeah. Your word < canon.

You realize that you are a DC hater and no one pays any serious attention to you. In 40 years, DS has been Superman's Superior in every way. period. now Get lost.

Originally posted by Martian_mind
Dude,get a sh*t apoc siggy and i couldn't tell u and Tricker apart I have him down to a tee... and that isn't impersonating him, that is just saying I know him like I know the back of my hand (so I wasn't trying to hit on him or something, so he doesn't go all creepy on me). Meh... he's probably looking for some kind of blue people porn.
He's probably some balding 40 year old, who lives in his parents basement, and when his mom comes down, he's all like:
"No momma, NO!!!"
And, she's all like:
"So, that's why the cat is walking bull legged..."

I also might take up that offer... hmm...

Originally posted by bigbran
I have him down to a tee... and that isn't impersonating him, that is just saying I know him like I know the back of my hand (so I wasn't trying to hit on him or something, so he doesn't go all creepy on me). Meh... he's probably looking for some kind of blue people porn.
He's probably some balding 40 year old, who lives in his parents basement, and when his mom comes down, he's all like:
"No momma, NO!!!"
And, she's all like:
"So, that's why the cat is walking bull legged..."

I also might take up that offer... hmm...

Why are you being so mean?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Why are you being so mean? Because, I seen a cat playing a fiddel one time?

Originally posted by bigbran
Because, I seen a cat playing a fiddel one time? That's reason enough to put the world on it's end.

If posible Doom will find a frequence in which Mags will redirect the OE and zap DS, just for fun. Now, seriosly, barring the combined abilities of Apoc and Doom finding powers to defeat DS or using celestial tech to win (or stealing the gem to fuel Doom's magic to increase further their chances), team is a little screwed here.

But there is celestial tech and cytorrak, so maybe there is hope.

Originally posted by Martian_mind
Dude,get a sh*t apoc siggy and i couldn't tell u and Tricker apart

Well bigbran does think that Apoc could take the majority against Thanos.

Team coz Doom's magic and JUGGY'S forcefield can shield them while together Magnus and Nur rip D.S. Apart..... and with no anti-life equation metron nor minions in sight.

Originally posted by don't shiv


Yes...how total PIS that was...

each of them would destroy Darkseid solo

And Hulk would beat Michael in a slugfest.

Originally posted by DevilGoblin
each of them would destroy Darkseid solo

No they wouldn't.

who's the idiot delusional who thinks that Darkseid can beat all these marvel villains alone ?

great delusion here

Darkseids Imperiex Universe Crushing/Absorbing Imperiex inspired Armour can be rebuilt within a day by Desaad

armoured D.S. Grinds the Team into a protein rich paste

Originally posted by DevilGoblin
who's the idiot delusional who thinks that Darkseid can beat all these marvel villains alone ?

great delusion here

Who's the retarded Hulk fanboy delusional who thinks Darkseid can't beat all these marvel villains alone?

Hulk can't but Huc sure can.

I bet if this was Thanos all the fanboys would be in here "OMG THANOS PIMPSLAPS DEEZ FOOLS!" "HE SLAPS AROUND SS SO WHY CAN'T HE OMGWTFBBQJ!!)!)!)!1010101010"

Originally posted by boriquaking55
Hulk can't but Huc sure can.

I bet if this was Thanos all the fanboys would be in here "OMG THANOS PIMPSLAPS DEEZ FOOLS!" "HE SLAPS AROUND SS SO WHY CAN'T HE OMGWTFBBQJ!!)!)!)!1010101010"

Thanos WOULD ***** these four.

As would Darkseid.

Originally posted by Soljer
Thanos WOULD ***** these four.

As would Darkseid.

the point being that if it was Thanos - half the people here would have different awnsers

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Are you serious? DS can control 3 billion Damites who are Superior in everyway to superman.

How ?

Daxamites are poisoned/weakened by Lead a (fairly) common substance located on (most) Dc planets.

If not for Krypton blowing up then Supes would only have two weaknesses (which Daxamites are also powerless against).

Originally posted by grey fox
How ?

Daxamites are poisoned/weakened by Lead a (fairly) common substance located on (most) Dc planets.

If not for Krypton blowing up then Supes would only have two weaknesses (which Daxamites are also powerless against).

Daxamites are stronger than Superman. Supers got his ass beat by a daxamite in what ever happened to the man of tomorrow. Daxamites where able to completely destroy the uber Elemental transmutors from space with thier laser vision. Superman have never shown that he can even destroy such powerful targets from that high up in space with just his heat vision.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Daxamites are stronger than Superman. Supers got his ass beat by a daxamite in what ever happened to the man of tomorrow. Daxamites where able to completely destroy the uber Elemental transmutors from space with thier laser vision. Superman have never shown that he can even destroy such powerful targets from that high up in space with just his heat vision.

As in Alan Moores whatever happened to the man of tomorrow ?

Originally posted by grey fox
As in Alan Moores whatever happened to the man of tomorrow ?

It was along time ago. I dont' even remember who wrote it. But I remember superman bouncing all thru time and meeting one of the Linear men. I have it in trade paper back somewhere.

This Fight is totally UNFAIR!

All four villains agaisn't Darkseid is completely and utterly NOT FAIR!


Apocalypse, Dr. Doom, Magneto, and Classic Juggernaut will at least need another 10 to 20 villains to help them defeat Darkseid.

This is totally unfair for the Marvel Villains.

Originally posted by masterbruce
DS can't even control Superman, so his TP is no prob to these TP resistant villains.
As if any of these losers are the equal of Superman.

DS wins easily.

7 posters here are really really idiots

keep on dreaming....fanboys! you made this place the legend of the web

Originally posted by DevilGoblin
7 posters here are really really idiots

keep on dreaming....fanboys! you made this place the legend of the web
The thing is that you are the biggest dumbass on KMC since you think tha Hulk can beat Michael in a slugfest who is 2nd to Dc's god.

Originally posted by Validus
As if any of these losers are the equal of Superman.

DS wins easily.

True. Some are his superior.

Dr.Doom and Magneto beat him with prep, while Juggernaut keeps him busy. By busy, i mean beats the shit outta him.

Originally posted by UniOmni
True. Some are his superior.

Dr.Doom and Magneto beat him with prep, while Juggernaut keeps him busy. By busy, i mean beats the shit outta him.
When these guys have even half the number of great feats that Superman has, come talk to me. Doom couldn't beat the Thing with prep much less Superman.

Originally posted by UniOmni
True. Some are his superior.

Dr.Doom and Magneto beat him with prep, while Juggernaut keeps him busy. By busy, i mean beats the shit outta him.

Superman beats down doom and magneto, even when they have prep, while simultaneously he is saving the world ten times over.

Originally posted by bigbran
Take a guess... Now that I look at it, it is sort of a combined super-being.

Here, is what I think should be a good example for you to guess at:

YOU F*CKING IDIOT!!! APOCALYPSE CAN BEAT DARKSEID!!! STOP BEING SUCH A FANBOY!!! Apocalypse has pwned Loki, and has stalemated the High Evolutionary.
Apocalypse 10/10.

Owned!

for the first time : CO-SIGNED

Darkseid fans are really delusional!

Apoc would destroy Darkseid most of times.

Originally posted by DevilGoblin
for the first time : CO-SIGNED

Darkseid fans are really delusional!

Apoc would destroy Darkseid most of times.
Bigbran was using sarcasm retard.

I know Val is joking, but Board Walker seems eerily serious...

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
I know Val is joking, but Board Walker seems eerily serious...

Or do I...

BW IS serious.

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
Bigbran was using sarcasm retard.

answer this question: who wins between these marvel villains and Darkseid ?

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
Bigbran was using sarcasm retard.

Well, bigbran wasn't sarcastic when he used to argue that Apoc could take the majority against Thanos.

Originally posted by DevilGoblin
answer this question: who wins between these marvel villains and Darkseid ?

Darkseid.

Originally posted by DevilGoblin
answer this question: who wins between these marvel villains and Darkseid ?
Answer this question Hulk vs Michael in a slugfest who wins?
Wait....you already answered it.
Now get the **** out you idiot.

Originally posted by UniOmni
BW IS serious. See, now that's what I was afraid of...

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
See, now that's what I was afraid of...

Or was I....Yes I was serious.

I see the team winning:

Juggernaut has his forcefields up and will put up a great fight against DS, they will trade earthshattering blows, but Juggs will be uneffected while DS will gradually get weaker.

Apoc become gigantic in size and lands massive hits on DS along with Juggs.

Magneto has his forcefield on, and is hovering nearby while sending huge metallic objects crashing into DS.

Doom is also on the side as support, hitting DS with his energy blasts.

the team wins.

Originally posted by masterbruce
I see the team winning:

Juggernaut has his forcefields up and will put up a great fight against DS, they will trade earthshattering blows, but Juggs will be uneffected while DS will gradually get weaker.

Apoc become gigantic in size and lands massive hits on DS along with Juggs.

Magneto has his forcefield on, and is hovering nearby while sending huge metallic objects crashing into DS.

Doom is also on the side as support, hitting DS with his energy blasts.

the team wins.
How about he matter manipulates all of them?

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
How about he matter manipulates all of them?

Superman is immune to matter manipulation on a omniversal scale.

gg no re for thanos.

Originally posted by Board Walker
Superman is immune to matter manipulation on a omniversal scale.

gg no re for thanos.
How about he is fighting Marvel villains in this thread?ermm

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
How about he is fighting Marvel villains in this thread?ermm

Are you hinting that the reality and matter manipulation of Thanos exceeds that of Dom or of other omniversal powers?

Originally posted by Board Walker
Are you insulating that the reality and matter manipulation of Thanos exceeds that of Dom or of other omniversal powers? No. But he might be insinuating it.

Nice edit, btw. 313

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
No. But he might be insinuating it.

I mean insulating, not insinuating, their is a drastic difference in the upheaval of cosmic balances.

Nice face by the way.

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
How about he matter manipulates all of them?

Or reality manipulates all of them...

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y37/Nightmareman95/HAL10WEEN/fbc4e6a1jpgorig8lt.jpg

DS will be doing no manipulation of any kind upon these Marvel villains:

Juggeranut is protected by Cytorrak

Dr. Doom and Apoc will create a magical forcefield in their one day of prep to protect their team against DS's matter and reality manipulation

DS is a dead man.

Darkseid dies.

Originally posted by Board Walker
I mean insulating, not insinuating, their is a drastic difference in the upheaval of cosmic balances.

Nice face by the way. But then you changed it to hinting....I doubt a Superman Punch could affect the cosmos on such a scale. Hell, I doubt even a Captain America Shield Throw (!!!) could have such universal implications.

Oh, I know, I so precious. 313

Originally posted by complexbrother
Darkseid dies...

...of laughter.

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
...of laughter.
... As Apocalypse inmense power makes him go insane.

J/K DS FTW

what are they gonna do to him? DS doesnt even feel supermans blows when hes in his true form, what are these guys gonna bring to the table. TP, matter and reality manip, the OE, plus 1 day of prep. The question isnt how is DS gonna beat the team, but what is the team gonna do to beat DS?

Originally posted by Kurash
what are they gonna do to him? DS doesnt even feel supermans blows when hes in his true form, what are these guys gonna bring to the table. TP, matter and reality manip, the OE, plus 1 day of prep. The question isnt how is DS gonna beat the team, but what is the team gonna do to beat DS?

Juggernaut can bash his ugly face in...after a long, long fight.

Apoc grows to 100 feet tall and steps on DS like excrement.

Magneto alters the magnetic bonds of atoms that make up DS.

Dr. Doom uses magic to hurt DS since DS has no magic resistance.

Originally posted by masterbruce
Juggernaut can bash his ugly face in...after a long, long fight.

Apoc grows to 100 feet tall and steps on DS like excrement.

Magneto alters the magnetic bonds of atoms that make up DS.

Dr. Doom uses magic to hurt DS since DS has no magic resistance.

Darkseid reality manipulates them.

Originally posted by masterbruce
Juggernaut can bash his ugly face in...after a long, long fight.

Apoc grows to 100 feet tall and steps on DS like excrement.

Magneto alters the magnetic bonds of atoms that make up DS.

Dr. Doom uses magic to hurt DS since DS has no magic resistance.

Originally posted by masterbruce
Juggernaut can bash his ugly face in...after a long, long fight.

Apoc grows to 100 feet tall and steps on DS like excrement.

Magneto alters the magnetic bonds of atoms that make up DS.

Dr. Doom uses magic to hurt DS since DS has no magic resistance.

and DS just sits there?

not that i think that could take him down anyways

Originally posted by Kurash
and DS just sits there?

well he's hopelessly entangled in a battle with Juggernaut. He can't do anything while Juggernaut mercilessly punches at him.

Originally posted by Evil_Ash
Darkseid reality manipulates them.

I've already explained why that isn't feasible.

you really think DS would get into a slugfest with juggs? and if he did i really doubt juggs could do any serious damage to him, true DS has taken Supes punches without even regarding it

Originally posted by masterbruce
Juggernaut can bash his ugly face in...after a long, long fight.

Because everyone knows that DS can't move or fight back with his actual powers.

Originally posted by masterbruce
Apoc grows to 100 feet tall and steps on DS like excrement.

Kinda like DS did to the entire JLA with a hologram?

Originally posted by masterbruce
Magneto alters the magnetic bonds of atoms that make up DS.

Is this before or after DS hits him with the OE which makes Mags stop existing?

Originally posted by masterbruce
Dr. Doom uses magic to hurt DS since DS has no magic resistance.

Of course DS won't use his powers right?

whats the defense for the OE?

Originally posted by Kurash
whats the defense for the OE?

Jugg's forcefield...he's protected by Cytorrak. Juggs would poke DS's eyes out before he even had a chance to fire his beams.

Originally posted by masterbruce
I've already explained why that isn't feasible.

And it's probably one of the dumbest things I've ever heard...

Originally posted by masterbruce
Jugg's forcefield...he's protected by Cytorrak. Juggs would poke DS's eyes out before he even had a chance to fire his beams.



are you being serious right now?

thou ds hath never dos this in thyn history he gets smite.

Originally posted by Kurash
you really think DS would get into a slugfest with juggs? and if he did i really doubt juggs could do any serious damage to him, true DS has taken Supes punches without even regarding it

well. he doesn't have a choice. Juggs runs at him with unstoppable momentum and starts knockin the stuffin outta DS, DS will have no choice but to engage Juggs in a slugfest, of which he will ultimately lose. This all while the other teammates attack DS with all their might.

This thread should be closed because of too much "retardedness".

Originally posted by Kurash


are you being serious right now?

ok not poke his eyes out, but Juggs basically acts as the shield for his team so he will take the Omega beams with no effect.

nosweat Christ......am I ever gonna live that tournament shit down? Bran, damn you for doing a decent impersonation. And you're just knocking me cause you know I'm right. And Darkseid rapes all of them easily. Even if you gave them prep and none for DS, he would still own this group easily.

Originally posted by masterbruce
well. he doesn't have a choice. Juggs runs at him with unstoppable momentum and starts knockin the stuffin outta DS, DS will have no choice but to engage Juggs in a slugfest, of which he will ultimately lose. This all while the other teammates attack DS with all their might.

You are kidding right?

I happen to know that I can avoid at slugfest with Juggy. By . . . ya know . . . using my intelect, flight and speed advantages.

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
This thread should be closed because of too much "retardedness".

signed, masterbruce just threw any respect i had for him into the air and shot it with a rifle

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Because everyone knows that DS can't move or fight back with his actual powers.



Kinda like DS did to the entire JLA with a hologram?



Is this before or after DS hits him with the OE which makes Mags stop existing?



Of course DS won't use his powers right?

DS can't fight the others when he has Juggeranut beating the pulp outta him.

Originally posted by masterbruce
ok not poke his eyes out, but Juggs basically acts as the shield for his team so he will take the Omega beams with no effect.

so your saying that juggs stands in front of DS and doesnt let the beams hit the others with the OE, the OE has pinpoint accuracy from accross the universe, which im guessing means it would ahve no trouble going the 4 feet around juggs body

Originally posted by masterbruce
DS can't fight the others when he has Juggeranut beating the pulp outta him.
Idiot he uses his hovering/flying abilities.

Originally posted by masterbruce
DS can't fight the others when he has Juggeranut beating the pulp outta him.



Juggy can't kill DS when he's been vaporised or at least BFRd by the OE.

Plus I just don't see Juggy ever laying a finger on DS.

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
This thread should be closed because of too much "retardedness".


Yes, you're right we better....

Originally posted by xmeat
thou ds hath never dos this in thyn history he gets smite.

GAAAHH!!! Too late!! scared

Originally posted by Kurash
so your saying that juggs stands in front of DS and doesnt let the beams hit the others with the OE has pinpoint accuracy from accross the universe, which im guessing means it would ahve no trouble going the 4 feet around juggs body

Um, Juggs is punching away at DS, I don't see how DS even gets a chance to shoot his OB. He will be focused on Juggs.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos


Juggy can't kill DS when he's been vaporised or at least BFRd by the OE.

Plus I just don't see Juggy ever laying a finger on DS.

DS can't vaporize Juggs, since Juggs is protected by Cytorrak, who is on par with DS, at the very least.

My vote for the team depends on Juggs being uneffected by DS beam, which I believe is the case.

Originally posted by masterbruce
Um, Juggs is punching away at DS, I don't see how DS even gets a chance to shoot his OB. He will be focused on Juggs.

You do know that the OE comes out of DS's eyes right?

Juggy walks up to DS. Looks him straight in the eye . . . and get incinerated.

Originally posted by masterbruce
DS can't vaporize Juggs, since Juggs is protected by Cytorrak, who is on par with DS, at the very least.

My vote for the team depends on Juggs being uneffected by DS beam, which I believe is the case.

Originally posted by xmeat
thou ds hath never dos this in thyn history he gets smite. and thou know it

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
You do know that the OE comes out of DS's eyes right?

Juggy walks up to DS. Looks him straight in the eye . . . and get incinerated.

DS can't vaporize Juggs.

Originally posted by masterbruce


Lets say you're right about that.

DS just ignores Juggy and kills everyone else. Then he comes back and disects Juggy with his RealityManip.

i really dnt think juggs forcefield would stop the OE

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Lets say you're right about that.

DS just ignores Juggy and kills everyone else. Then he comes back and disects Juggy with his RealityManip.

that's out of character. If Juggy is hitting DS with all his power and his forcefield on, DS cannot 'just ignore' Juggs as he will be knocked around.

Originally posted by Kurash
i really dnt think juggs forcefield would stop the OE WW's bracelets stopped it, and the power of Cyttorak >= WW Bracelets, IMO.

Originally posted by Kurash
i really dnt think juggs forcefield would stop the OE

Nothing can stop the OE...besides Jeph Loeb....

Originally posted by Kurash
i really dnt think juggs forcefield would stop the OE

I think it will. guess there isn't really any way of settlin it.

ok i know for a fact that if DS hit jugs are hard as he could juggs is gonna be removed from battle for a little while he gets back up and runs to the fight. In that time the rest of the team is dead, so your arguement is classic juggs>DS

Originally posted by masterbruce
that's out of character. If Juggy is hitting DS with all his power and his forcefield on, DS cannot 'just ignore' Juggs as he will be knocked around.

Out of character?

DS is faster and can fly quite easily. It'll be very simple for him to ignore Juggy.

Originally posted by Kurash
ok i know for a fact that if DS hit jugs are hard as he could juggs is gonna be removed from battle for a little while he gets back up and runs to the fight. In that time the rest of the team is dead, so your arguement is classic juggs>DS

yes, of course I meant Classic Juggs, not the current retard Juggs.

I'm talking about the Juggs who got tickled by a godblast.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Out of character?

DS is faster and can fly quite easily. It'll be very simple for him to ignore Juggy.

I don't know, DS doesn't look like the type that will fly around and run fast...he'd look funny doing that, it aint his style.

He's more the walk menacingly type.

Originally posted by masterbruce
I don't know, DS doesn't look like the type that will fly around and run fast...he'd look funny doing that, it aint his style.

He's more the walk menacingly type.

ROTFLOL

Originally posted by masterbruce
I don't know, DS doesn't look like the type that will fly around and run fast...he'd look funny doing that, it aint his style.

He's more the walk menacingly type.
He can hover/fly.

Originally posted by masterbruce
yes, of course I meant Classic Juggs, not the current retard Juggs.

I'm talking about the Juggs who got tickled by a godblast.

im talkin about classic juggs, and DS would bitchslap classic juggs off his feet and send him flying, in which case the rest of the team dies while classic juggs runs back, so your basically saying that classic juggs>DS, so i guess juggs is now abstract level

Originally posted by Kurash
im talkin about classic juggs, and DS would bitchslap classic juggs off his feet and send him flying, in which case the rest of the team dies while classic juggs runs back, so your basically saying that classic juggs>DS, so i guess juggs is now abstract level

If Juggs is moving in a direction and has his forcefields up, NO ONE can move him back unless they are even More powerful than Cytorrak.

Originally posted by masterbruce
If Juggs is moving in a direction and has his forcefields up, NO ONE can move him back unless they are even More powerful than Cytorrak.

assumption since hes been moved before, haflways accross the country in fact

DS.

Originally posted by Kurash
assumption since hes been moved before, haflways accross the country in fact

he didn't have his forcefields up.

do you know that for a fact, i havent read the comic in years, but did it actually say juggs didnt have his forcefield up?

I don't understand why people think that Juggs' shield = Cyttorak...

Originally posted by Kurash
do you know that for a fact, i havent read the comic in years, but did it actually say juggs didnt have his forcefield up?

well i don't know definitively. But it would make sense. Juggs took a godblast with his forcefield on, a blast that would hurt even Mighty Galactus.

Without his forcefield, he is suscetible to be knocked around.

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
I don't understand why people think that Juggs' shield = Cyttorak...

Actually MB said Juggy's shield > Cyttorak

well we dont know for a fact then, so its possible he did has his forcefield up. Either way case closed, im done arguing with someone who thinks juggs is abstract level

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Actually MB said Juggy's shield > Cyttorak

when did I say that?

Originally posted by masterbruce
when did I say that?

I misread you post that said "unless they are even more powerful" as "even if they are more powerful".

Originally posted by masterbruce
when did I say that?

by claiming that DS has no way of beating juggs

The team have 3/10 chance of winning if they follow my plan

1 day of prep - Apoc amps Doctor Doom with as much celestial tech as humanly possible. Magneto does a time-jump thanks to Dooms time-machine and ovioid body switches with his younger self (Joseph I believe ? ) , he then time jumps once more to a early primitive earth and absorbs the sum total of the planets magnetic force.

While this is happening Doom is teaching Juggs to tap into the Cytorrak Gem (Hey , Doom IS the second in line to Sorcerer Supreme ! ). Get ready for Juggy who can...

ATTRIBUTE AUGMENTATION - Controlled subconciously by an unknown influence,The Juggernaut was innately able to self-augment his strength to the point where Thor exclaimed it had "swelled a hundred fold". On another occasion The Juggernaut grew to some 100 feet in height when under the control of an outside force. Although it was not stated his strength presumably grew proportionately with his height.


REALITY WARPING - Heeding an outside influence,The Juggernaut once pulled the physical body of Charles Xavier from across town through Xavier's own astral form.


MYSTIC ENERGY PROJECTION - The Juggernaut has been observed firing bolts of mystic energy from his hands to shrink a giant Nightmare down to his own size to better combat him.


DIMENSION RIFTING - Controlled by an outside force,The Juggernaut's power was unleashed to the point where he was literally punching holes into other dimensions with his fists.


POWER PROJECTION - In the past The Juggernaut was seen firing globules of energy from his body into a long-range barrage attack.(This is a forgotten ability moreso than an untapped power).

Now all this is done they step into battle wherein.

1. Juggernaut attacks , clean out pimp smacks Darkseid around for at least a minute keeping him off balance and off focus.

2. In this time Doom binds Darksied within the Crimson Bands of Cytorrak , unbreakable and inescapable. Save for the wielders lack of focus (thanks to Apoc though Doom can now focus for an insane amount of time).

3. Apoc Grows as large as possible and begins stomping on Darksied , while magneto is slowly opening a black hole. Once fully opened he then tears all the blood from Darkseid s body (or drops every single piece of metal on the planet on top of DS) before flinging him into the black hole.

4. Doom then seals the black hole permanently , before locking onto DS's astral form , pulling it loose and destroying it. Finally they then send ALL the contents of said black hole backwards in time to the beginning of Existence.

DS get's the Braniac 13 treatment.

They Win !

Are you arguing that Doom could make ClassicJuggy the equal of 8th day Juggy?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Are you arguing that Doom could make ClassicJuggy the equal of 8th day Juggy?

Possibly, as I stated he's the next candidate of SS. Though I can admit Juggs confuses me a litle at times.

Originally posted by grey fox
Possibly, as I stated he's the next candidate of SS. Though I can admit Juggs confuses me a litle at times.

I thought it took 3 Vishanti level creatures to make 8th day Juggy (or was that Trion ).

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I thought it took 3 Vishanti level creatures to make 8th day Juggy (or was that Trion ).

I believe that was Trion. And they aren't the same.

team ftw

Apocalypse vs Darkseid 50% and 50%

Dr. Doom (without prep) loses any time

Magneto wins any time

Classic Juggernaut owns any version of darkseid

Originally posted by FearOfBlood
Magneto wins any time

You need to pass me some of that stuff you smokin'. It must be high quality.

Originally posted by boriquaking55
You need to pass me some of that stuff you smokin'. It must be high quality.

China white my friend.

The Sheer rediculousness of This thread. SOme Idiot said ww was able to deflect the OE so juggs should. First off, WW's shield is SUperior To any shield in comics that I"m aware of that is not produced by someone like Galactus. 2ndly, WW was able to deflect the OE becuz part of her soul WAS in DS.

Now let's take a look at how DS beats Them.

He's far stronger than Juggy. He even survived a solarsystem blast from the ALE. None of These guys can destroy a solar system on thier own.
DS has controlled 3 billion Daxamites. He can control these guys with ease.

Or he Turns anyone of them into his heralds. He's done this before. The Infinity man beats all of these guys 8 ways to sunday and DS still was able to OE the IM away.

DS Mind Rapes Magneto and Dr. Doom, Pummels Apoc into submission with His fist, and Reality manips the Juggy into a Rock. Or Simply OE's him into an invulnerable new born baby.

Originally posted by Evil_Ash
Or reality manipulates all of them...

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y37/Nightmareman95/HAL10WEEN/fbc4e6a1jpgorig8lt.jpg

I love how this one scan is being used to supply Darkseid with the win, when it's been retconned into never actually happened.

These lone feats of reality manipulation don't count, since due to Zero Hour, this never occurred.

And Darkseid is subject to retcons, as is any other character.

He can win some, but it won't be due to feats that actually never happened.

And he won't be mindraping Juggy due to the helmet, and Magneto and Doom both have willpowers that allow them to resist high level tp.

Their consistent record against tp > Darkseid using tp in an arc that's never happened.

Originally posted by UniOmni
I love how this one scan is being used to supply Darkseid with the win, when it's been retconned into never actually happened.

These lone feats of reality manipulation don't count, since due to Zero Hour, this never occurred.

And Darkseid is subject to retcons, as is any other character.

He can win some, but it won't be due to feats that actually never happened.

And he won't be mindraping Juggy due to the helmet, and Magneto and Doom both have willpowers that allow them to resist high level tp.

Their consistent record against tp > Darkseid using tp in an arc that's never happened.

LOL. DS still has reality manip. ANd it's even on a higher lvl than in GDS. In Seven Soldiers he creates actual realities. Mister Miracle also comments that no one has TP that can match DS's own. DS doesn't need to Mind Rape Juggs. He is strong enough to one punch him into the sun. Or just Turn him into an invulnerable new born with the OE. Magneto and Doom are so done for. Neither have a prayer of resisting DS Tp. Even if the could, DS can just turn the Rocks into Giant Monsters and pummel them. But he's strong enough to literally crush them under his heal. He's back handed Superman So many times, I doubt either of these two will be surviving a full on physical attack from DS. DS has never been retconned. He's still the DS from Precrisis. He is subject to retconns. But it hasn't happened yet. So all of his abilities in the GDS saga are still valid. He still zaps Other beings and takes thier power and adds it to his own. Proof? highfather, jove, Zeus, ares, heracles all had to combine into one being to fight DS. These guys are done for. Thanos can beat them all to hell so I know DS would truly obliterate them.

Celestials are more powerful than DS, if Doom can use the celestial tech correctly he can take it. There is the magic and cytorraks gem to help the matters, Is not impossible ta win, but none of the guys can overpower DS.

Originally posted by Bentley
Celestials are more powerful than DS, if Doom can use the celestial tech correctly he can take it.

The tech does not make the celestial.

With Galactus tech Doom stripped Galactus of his powers. Thats a precedent. With little time of prep I admit is unlikely, but its a position that can be defended.

Originally posted by Bentley
With Galactus tech Doom stripped Galactus of his powers. Thats a precedent. With little time of prep I admit is unlikely, but its a position that can be defended.

Doom also was pretty close to Galactus. Unless there are some Celestials floating around Doom won't be able to become one by using just thier tech.

Apocalypse has celestial tech, I don't doubt Doom can use it better -but I doubt they have enough tech to mimic the Galactus feat.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
LOL. DS still has reality manip. ANd it's even on a higher lvl than in GDS. In Seven Soldiers he creates actual realities. Mister Miracle also comments that no one has TP that can match DS's own. DS doesn't need to Mind Rape Juggs. He is strong enough to one punch him into the sun. Or just Turn him into an invulnerable new born with the OE. Magneto and Doom are so done for. Neither have a prayer of resisting DS Tp. Even if the could, DS can just turn the Rocks into Giant Monsters and pummel them. But he's strong enough to literally crush them under his heal. He's back handed Superman So many times, I doubt either of these two will be surviving a full on physical attack from DS. DS has never been retconned. He's still the DS from Precrisis. He is subject to retconns. But it hasn't happened yet. So all of his abilities in the GDS saga are still valid. He still zaps Other beings and takes thier power and adds it to his own. Proof? highfather, jove, Zeus, ares, heracles all had to combine into one being to fight DS. These guys are done for. Thanos can beat them all to hell so I know DS would truly obliterate them.

There is so much wrong in this post i don't know where to begin.

In Seven Soldiers he creates synthetic realities. Synthetic has a whole slew of meanings.
The fact that the story begins, and ends in a blackhole, which he was in for 9 days, tells me that it was an infinite loop of realities in Shilos head. You disagree.

I love how Magneto and Doom, the former of which has Professor Xavier as his main foe, the most skilled and powerful tp on the planet, is done for against Darkseids little seen but vaunted TP.
Get that shit outta here.

Magneto's concrete resistance to TP trumps Darkseids spotty record with it. Same goes for Doom.

Darkseid has been retconned, since the GDS is a Legion story, and the legions continuity was wiped after Zero Hour.
The feats aren't valid if the story has been editorially removed from canon!

It's insanity that i'm even arguing this point with you!

Odin went crazy and began to destroy the universe. Retconned later, but according to you, since Asgard is outside of this universe, it's still valid right?

And if i recall, GDS is where he created Validus right? From a baby?
That feat's no longer valid if the story has been editiorially removed.

You can't be this bullheaded.

The Quintessence combining into the one, is a hella nice feat.

Originally posted by UniOmni
There is so much wrong in this post i don't know where to begin.

In Seven Soldiers he creates synthetic realities. Synthetic has a whole slew of meanings.
The fact that the story begins, and ends in a blackhole, which he was in for 9 days, tells me that it was an infinite loop of realities in Shilos head. You disagree.

I love how Magneto and Doom, the former of which has Professor Xavier as his main foe, the most skilled and powerful tp on the planet, is done for against Darkseids little seen but vaunted TP.
Get that shit outta here.

Magneto's concrete resistance to TP trumps Darkseids spotty record with it. Same goes for Doom.

Darkseid has been retconned, since the GDS is a Legion story, and the legions continuity was wiped after Zero Hour.
The feats aren't valid if the story has been editorially removed from canon!

It's insanity that i'm even arguing this point with you!

Odin went crazy and began to destroy the universe. Retconned later, but according to you, since Asgard is outside of this universe, it's still valid right?

And if i recall, GDS is where he created Validus right? From a baby?
That feat's no longer valid if the story has been editiorially removed.

You can't be this bullheaded.

The Quintessence combining into the one, is a hella nice feat.

Ok let me get you together on esome points. You do realize that Sythetic only means unnatural. Synthetic grass is still grass. YOu also realize that Mister miracle mentions events from seven soldiers in Fire storm. Thus making it cannon.

Mister Miracle also states that DS telepathy is 2nd to none. Charles can't even beat MM in telepathy and Magneto standing up to Charles X is supposed to impress DS. Let's See Magneto and Doom stand up to be ing turned into Stone or Lemons.

Everything DS did in Legion he has done elsewhere. Absorbing beings powers? Check. He's done that to panetheons of Gods. Manipulating Reality and Matter. Check He's done that. He turned the Guy who beat Kalibak's ass into a rock and He dumped Mr. Miracle in those Sythetic Realities.

As far as DS turning Juggy into a baby, you realize DS can age, or Deage someone with The OE. ANd creating Validus is nothing to DS creating Stayne who is far more powerful. A later feat I might Add.

Darkseid wins.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/DarkseidandJuggernaut.jpg
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/DarkseidandMagneto.jpg

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Ok let me get you together on esome points. You do realize that Sythetic only means unnatural. Synthetic grass is still grass. YOu also realize that Mister miracle mentions events from seven soldiers in Fire storm. Thus making it cannon.

Mister Miracle also states that DS telepathy is 2nd to none. Charles can't even beat MM in telepathy and Magneto standing up to Charles X is supposed to impress DS. Let's See Magneto and Doom stand up to be ing turned into Stone or Lemons.

Everything DS did in Legion he has done elsewhere. Absorbing beings powers? Check. He's done that to panetheons of Gods. Manipulating Reality and Matter. Check He's done that. He turned the Guy who beat Kalibak's ass into a rock and He dumped Mr. Miracle in those Sythetic Realities.

As far as DS turning Juggy into a baby, you realize DS can age, or Deage someone with The OE. ANd creating Validus is nothing to DS creating Stayne who is far more powerful. A later feat I might Add.

Synthetic can mean anything from unnatural to artificial.

And Darkseid having tp and using it all of four times, doesn't trump Professor Xavier, who's the best tper on his earth and was scanning way beyond earth before Magneto altered the planet.

Xavier > Darkseid for consistency.

Max Lord can control Superman, but Darkseid can't.

And i don't understand how you're not getting the fact that Mr.Miracle starting and ending in the same place, implies it all took place in his head.

He wins the majority, surely. But with prep, these guys can do wonders, and its underrating them to suggest otherwise.