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Extremis Iron man and his Argonauts vs the X-men
Ok so this is some info on the Argonaut armors i got from wikipedia:



Tony's up against:

Jean Grey
Collosus
Beast
Wolverine
Gambit
Cyclops
Nightcrawler
Xavier
Iceman
Angel

Ok so who will win this sizzle?



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jean grey, xavier and iceman would be the deciding factors of this fight atleast for me. Had you given the x-men only one of their two most powerfull telepaths i would say the match goes to iron man easily. Unless the cyclops we are talking about here has realized his true abilities, i doubt his optic blast is going to do much against starks amrours'. wolverines adamantium does nothing either. I dont think collosus could withstand the constant munitions onslaught from iron mans team for very long. So there go the brawlers, however, when fighting with jean or xavier their tactics are determined by jeans and xaviers actions

the x-men, especially these x-members gain strength by fighting together. As strategically oriented as tony stark is. I have to say the x-mens fighting experience as well as their tactics and telepaths easily recycle iron mans team. I think however, it also depends what suit stark himself is wearing.

Each x-mans strength is usually magnified when fighting with the right team members. They have a great knack for exploiting each others abilities.

Is this the regular Gambit or New Son?

I think Adamantium man and Hulk buster are enough to take care of the brawlers I agree that the telepaths wil be Tony's biggest problem doh.. with prep Tony wins 10/10... Without prep .. Team X 6/10



Regular Gambit... New son would own them all...

i can agree with that, still not sold on stark being able to stand up against the telepaths even with all the prep time in the world

Originally posted by Aqua-pimp
Extremis Iron man and his Argonauts vs the X-men
Ok so this is some info on the Argonaut armors i got from wikipedia:



Tony's up against:

Jean Grey
Collosus
Beast
Wolverine
Gambit
Cyclops
Nightcrawler
Xavier
Iceman
Angel

Ok so who will win this sizzle?



Discus!!!



I like your threads Phoenix/Gambit/Bobby/Logan ftw

X-Men win this.

Xmen

Unless Tony has some serious psyblockers.

X-men win, All the X-men shield Xavier and Jean from Iron-man's attacks and the telepaths take IM down

Don't screw with the psychics

Originally posted by willRules
X-men win, All the X-men shield Xavier and Jean from Iron-man's attacks and the telepaths take IM down

Don't screw with the psychics

I don't even think the psychics are necessary, but that's just me.

Iceman, Jean's telekinesis, Nightcrawler, and Cyclops would be a challenge right there. And then add Colossus for any of the suits that make it into his grasp.

IronMan gets this one, hands down

If there's any prep then Tony could get these robots to work without any mental connection to him.

The X-Men would have a hell of a time trying to stop them all the old fashioned way.

IM Robots >>>>>> Sentinels

Colossus is probably going to have a major part to play in this battle, seeing as he's the "tank". I don't think Iron man could take on Jean Grey though, not on his best day with all the suits in the world.

Originally posted by llagrok
Colossus is probably going to have a major part to play in this battle, seeing as he's the "tank". I don't think Iron man could take on Jean Grey though, not on his best day with all the suits in the world.

Colossus would get owned by the Hulkbuster or the one with Antarctic vibranium.

Plus one of them has an adamantium outer layer.
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Here's the comic where those robots actually appeared:

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Fight over ... time to make ominous plans ....

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Wonder what he meant by that?

Nightcrawler teleports him into the arms of Colossus. Game over.

In Uncanny x-men, the hulkbuster suits were easily torn apart by Juggernaut at a weakened state. Then later one, Juggernaut is seen struggling below Colossus level when benching. Obviously Colossus would be able to rip apart the Hulkbuster suits. If not, then Nightcrawler can work together with Gambit.

Simply bamf him to a suit, let him charge and then bamf away. If not, then Wolverine has a nice set of claws.

Can NC teleport around 90 tons? ... and why would he teleport anti-metal to colossus? does he want him to die?

Originally posted by llagrok
In Uncanny x-men, the hulkbuster suits were easily torn apart by Juggernaut at a weakened state. Then later one, Juggernaut is seen struggling below Colossus level when benching. Obviously Colossus would be able to rip apart the Hulkbuster suits. If not, then Nightcrawler can work together with Gambit.

Simply bamf him to a suit, let him charge and then bamf away. If not, then Wolverine has a nice set of claws.

I am sorry but I don't agree with that scenario at all. I can't even see neither possible. NC or Logan. Like Tony doesn't have a gazillion info about Logan to know how to handle canuk boy

Originally posted by llagrok
In Uncanny x-men, the hulkbuster suits were easily torn apart by Juggernaut at a weakened state. Then later one, Juggernaut is seen struggling below Colossus level when benching. Obviously Colossus would be able to rip apart the Hulkbuster suits. If not, then Nightcrawler can work together with Gambit.

Simply bamf him to a suit, let him charge and then bamf away. If not, then Wolverine has a nice set of claws.

This isn't a "Hulkbuster suit" this is a custom made totally new and improved Hulkbuster armour that tore apart the Avengers (well .. the New Avengers anyway, but they did have She-Hulk, Ms Marvel and Iron Man)

http://img394.imageshack.us/img394/2623/invincibleironmanv4012pyp8.th.jpg

pwned.

Originally posted by Scoobless
http://img394.imageshack.us/img394/2623/invincibleironmanv4012pyp8.th.jpg

pwned.



Well he's fighting the new avengers and not the x-men there, isn't he?

Nightcrawler could easily have teleported in there and pulled Wolvie out.

Originally posted by llagrok
Well he's fighting the new avengers and not the x-men there, isn't he?

Nightcrawler could easily have teleported in there and pulled Wolvie out.

Only if he can avoid the invisible stealth-bot and the 4 other repulsor blasting monsters gunning for him.

Originally posted by Scoobless
Colossus would get owned by the Hulkbuster or the one with Antarctic vibranium.

Plus one of them has an adamantium outer layer.

Correct. He couldn't really take those ones.

However...

There's still the Submarine one, the Espionage one, and Iron Man himself.

All of which completely susceptible to Colossus' thrashing.

X-Men via Wolverine, Cyclop and Iceman

Eh. Wolverine will be lucky if he sees any action at all during this match.

Jean Grey and Iceman solo this...

Originally posted by What If...
Jean Grey and Iceman solo this...

If Iceman actually trained a little more, then he should be capable of doing this on his own. But yeah, Ice and Jean can take care of this.

Originally posted by llagrok
In Uncanny x-men, the hulkbuster suits were easily torn apart by Juggernaut at a weakened state. Then later one, Juggernaut is seen struggling below Colossus level when benching. Obviously Colossus would be able to rip apart the Hulkbuster suits. If not, then Nightcrawler can work together with Gambit.

Simply bamf him to a suit, let him charge and then bamf away. If not, then Wolverine has a nice set of claws.


?? Having gambit charge up a suit = feeding it more energy
those scans also showed us how wolverine faired against just 1 argonaut with his NA teammates.

And.. since Shield always mentions their psi-blockers and stuff..you'd figure the new director of SHIELD would upgrade/incorporate this tech.

Originally posted by llagrok
If Iceman actually trained a little more, then he should be capable of doing this on his own. But yeah, Ice and Jean can take care of this.

Highly doubtful. Not current version IM anyway

Originally posted by Trolt
And.. since Shield always mentions their psi-blockers and stuff..you'd figure the new director of SHIELD would upgrade/incorporate this tech.

Except that when the Argos program had any showings Tony was not the director of SHIELD and you can just assume that Tony would put them in without some sort of evidence.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Except that when the Argos program had any showings Tony was not the director of SHIELD and you can just assume that Tony would put them in without some sort of evidence.

tahts the thing... how exactly can you take over the mind of a automaton ? Once the argos are set on auto-kill mode, after IM has creamed the rest of the xmen..what is the telepaths going to do ?

IIRC both Xavier and Emma Frost have used their telepathy on machines.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
IIRC both Xavier and Emma Frost have used their telepathy on machines. ... sometimes comics defy common sense.... or tk/tp same thing ?

Too much power for Irom Man on his own. He would need a few Avengers to even up the match.

Ironman can do a Psi jam....dammit I cant find the scan and I swore I saved it

Basically since in the Marvel Universe psychics go through EM lines, what he did was jam Moondragons Psi powers not letting her powers, or thoughts, escape her own head. She felt like static was inside her head.

That would at least take care of the psychics in the group *for how long? hell if I know*

You can go on from there.....

I'd say The X-men win this. Doesn't jean simply have the TK necessary to pull apart most of the suits? And iceman can certainly take down a couple of them.

At the beginning of the Zero Tolerance storyline, Jean was yanked from the X-Jet into an alternate universe. She hit Iron Man once with her TK, and he said that he'd be done if she did it again.

I imagine that the X-Men COULD do it, but it certainly won't be easy for them.