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The Doctor (Jeroen)

vs.

Superman
Wonder Woman
Martian Manhunter
Green Lantern (Hal Jordan)


First Scenario) KMC rules.

Second Scenario) No speedblitz.


Who wins?

They are screwed.

The Doctor uses his powers only to be stopped by Superman,who's rubbing his hands together.

Superman then punches his head off.

Originally posted by Skeets
The Doctor uses his powers only to be stopped by Superman,who's rubbing his hands together.

Superman then punches his head off.
Punching his head off just won't do shit.

First Scenario they react faster than he can think or react. He's actually been stopped from using his powers by being kept of balance before. He needed time to think. Remember he was a heroin addict.

Second scenario they all die. Unless the ring has resistance or Wonder Woman has magical resistance. To him both of which seems unlikely given some of his feats. Although he has been mentally blocked from using his powers, can the ring do this? Maybe? It has interferred with peoples ability to use powers before at the synaptic level.

1) Not sure
2) He utterly destroys them

Originally posted by Estacado
Punching his head off just won't do shit.
Superman is punching his head off.

What are the avatar restrictions/rules on this site again? I always forget.

Oh yeah, pretend to have come into this thread with something to contribute screw it, It works for Guy22, why not me?

Originally posted by Skeets
Superman is punching his head off.
A fat guy had the power of The Doctor for 60 minutes and he owned the Authority completly.Destroying his body or speed blitzing him won't do jackshit.Also he was only playing with them.
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Originally posted by Estacado
A fat guy had the power of The Doctor for 60 minutes and he owned the Authority completly.Destroying his body or speed blitzing him won't do jackshit.Also he was only playing with them.
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He was a previous Doctor who had been imprisoned. When he faced the Avengers types they blocked him from using his powers. Same thing happened in another story although it's a while since I read it. He was off balance. Oh and then theirs Kev.

T-Vo FTW! it worked on a Multiversal level being.....ermmnone

Originally posted by Skeets
T-Vo FTW! it worked on a Multiversal level being.....ermmnone

T-vo would do it.

Originally posted by zozo_yoyo_xoxo
He was a previous Doctor who had been imprisoned. When he faced the Avengers types they blocked him from using his powers. Same thing happened in another story although it's a while since I read it. He was off balance. Oh and then theirs Kev.
The guy made a deal with Jeroen to give him his powers for 60 minutes.

Originally posted by Skeets
T-Vo FTW! it worked on a Multiversal level being.....ermmnone

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Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
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Haermm

Originally posted by Skeets
Haermm

Thats the one!

And without a blitz T-Vo wouldn't help much.

Originally posted by Estacado
The guy made a deal with Jeroen to give him his powers for 60 minutes.

Yes he did. He had been a previous Doctor. They sent him to the temporal prison for things he did in the sixties. Have you read the trade? If you haven't it's pretty good. Diana channells the godwave?

Yeah but my point is that he was using Jeroen's powers so Jeroen could easily do the same.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Thats the one!

And without a blitz T-Vo wouldn't help much.
Yeah,no.
The Doctor's mind is already unstable iirc.
Superman using T-Vo gets him the win.

Originally posted by Skeets
Yeah,no.
The Doctor's mind is already unstable iirc.
Superman using T-Vo gets him the win.
How about Superman get's turned into a brick?

Originally posted by Estacado
Yeah but my point is that he was using Jeroen's powers so Jeroen could easily do the same.

If you read the one with "the Avengers" they both put a psychic block on him. The ring has affected people at a synaptic level and could do this. He also has been kept off balance and unable to use his powers. The ring is the key it works against magic. The vision copy also punked him in the Avengers one. Then theirs Kev.

Originally posted by Skeets
Yeah,no.
The Doctor's mind is already unstable iirc.
Superman using T-Vo gets him the win.

Of course without a blitz the Doctor destroy him before he gets a chance to attack with T-Vo.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Of course without a blitz the Doctor destroy him before he gets a chance to attack with T-Vo. Not if the ring has blocked his synapses and he's a drooling wreck. Or Diana has channelled the Godwave.

Originally posted by Estacado
How about Superman get's turned into a brick?
Impossible!
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Of course without a blitz the Doctor destroy him before he gets a chance to attack with T-Vo.
It's not like Superman has to hold his hand in order for T-Vo to work.

El doctor!

I missed the obvious Jeroen has been mind controlled by psychics. MM stops him dead.

Originally posted by zozo_yoyo_xoxo
Not if the ring has blocked his synapses and he's a drooling wreck. Or Diana has channelled the Godwave.

TheDoctor can easily go after GL first since the others can't do much to him. And how often does Diana use the GW in combat?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
TheDoctor can easily go after GL first since the others can't do much to him. And how often does Diana use the GW in combat?

Originally posted by Soljer
El doctor!

Tell me about how the Avenger copys blocked his access to his powers using Telepathy and how MM couldn't do the same? Fortunately for the authority that psychic was killed when they rescued Jenny Q and the Doc.

Tell me, what's Diana's best feat channeling the god wave? I seem to remember he amping her speed and strength...and....being almost destroyed in the process.

God Wave. Pfft.

T-Vo,Mother****er! T-Vo!!

Originally posted by Soljer
Tell me, what's Diana's best feat channeling the god wave? I seem to remember he amping her speed and strength...and....being almost destroyed in the process.

God Wave. Pfft.

Let's ignore the godwave and T-vo which would both get a win (probably) and just concentrate on tp which has worked on the Doc before.

Originally posted by Skeets
T-Vo,Mother****er! T-Vo!!

T-vo, Godwave, TP blocked synapses. The addict is screwed. Even without Speedblitz Kryptonian heat vision fries him before he can blocck it it they both react at one. As supes synaptic reaction is faster that's not speed blitz that's speed on the draw like Kev.

This is ridiculous. Let's assume that he can't even just turn them into trees (he can, for at least Superman and J'onn...and most likely Diana as well).

He first phases into a different dimension to avoid detection. He then floods GL with all the memories of the entire human race. Concentration gone, hello cologne-bones.

Superman's a rose petal before he can even think, unless they start amazingly close. Remember, all he has to do is think about it and it happens.

As for the other two, converting them into sound waves, BFR'ing them to a different dimension, turning them into trees, or simply growing himself to the size of a mountain and donkey-thumping them. Any would work, and are all things he's done before.

He's also telekinetically held Italy in place while the Earth spun on its axis. techincally, he could just "use the Force" to hold them in place while he decided what to do with them.

Speedblitz scenario, it depends how close they start to him, and if they're smart enough to go for the kill.

Otherwise, they're screwed nine ways from Tuesday.

And whirly, quit playing devil's advocate. Doctor can think Kal into a tree well before Kal would ever try T-Vo.

Nice!
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...and I forgot slowing down time to a near stop in a small area around him, effectively negating whatever reflexes advantage they have over him. So there's about half a dozen attacks he has for taking any of these guys out. Sure, they'll be speedblitz proponents....and it's a valid argument. But give him time to form a coherent thought or two and this is child's play.

even if he does lose to speed thats no sad thing i mean even zatanna got taken down by a speedblitz from slade

Originally posted by DigiMark007
This is ridiculous. Let's assume that he can't even just turn them into trees (he can, for at least Superman and J'onn...and most likely Diana as well).

He first phases into a different dimension to avoid detection. He then floods GL with all the memories of the entire human race. Concentration gone, hello cologne-bones.

Superman's a rose petal before he can even think, unless they start amazingly close. Remember, all he has to do is think about it and it happens.

As for the other two, converting them into sound waves, BFR'ing them to a different dimension, turning them into trees, or simply growing himself to the size of a mountain and donkey-thumping them. Any would work, and are all things he's done before.

He's also telekinetically held Italy in place while the Earth spun on its axis. techincally, he could just "use the Force" to hold them in place while he decided what to do with them.

Speedblitz scenario, it depends how close they start to him, and if they're smart enough to go for the kill.

Otherwise, they're screwed nine ways from Tuesday.

And whirly, quit playing devil's advocate. Doctor can think Kal into a tree well before Kal would ever try T-Vo.

So we'll ignore the time he was mentally blocked from using his powers or the time he was kept off balance and couldn't use his powers. Let's ignore Kev? Just a guy with a gun. We'll ignore the way we have two members who can block his synapes. Even without speedblitz they think faster than him and can simply shut him down before he does any magic in a multitude of ways. To slow down time he has to think and he's slower than they are at thinking so he loses. If they know his powers MM shuts him down, he doesn't need speedblitz.

Kev's gun was conceptually constructed to take anything out. So don't play dumb and just call it a gun.

And I conceded the speedblitz already. So there's no reason to drive it home even more like it's something new.

But, take it beyond the speedblitz and sure, they have means of taking the Doctor out. But they'll be flooded with memories, turned into trees, and all sorts of other things before they realize ("Hmmm. Maybe he uses his thoughts to do all of this. Instead of leading in with a regular blast, maybe I should cut off his synaptic connections"

Besides, assuming that they could do anything to the brain function of someone who controls matter on a sub-molecular level is preposterous to begin with.

So could they win? Sure. Will they? No, unless they have speedblitz and are smart enough to go for the kill. But give him a few seconds and they're screwed.

I think we should make a "Whirly knows it better" thread in the OTF forum.

Originally posted by DigiMark007

Besides, assuming that they could do anything to the brain function of someone who controls matter on a sub-molecular level is preposterous to begin with.

So could they win? Sure. Will they? No, unless they have speedblitz.

Why? Surely he has to have conscious control to block the changes. Drugs work just fine on the brain function of someone who controls matter on a sub-molecular level, that's why he was an addict. Can you say all receptor sights blocked? Both GL and MM can.

Originally posted by zozo_yoyo_xoxo
Why? Surely he has to have conscious control to block the changes. Drugs work just fine on the brain function of someone who controls matter on a sub-molecular level, that's why he was an addict. Can you say all receptor sights blocked? Both GL and MM can.

When he's in a different dimension? Or they're in a different dimension? Or when they're trees?

You're argument of "They think faster than Doctor" falls well short, because the first thing they do is punch, send energy beams, phase, etc. The Doctor, on the other hand, will turn them to puppies or flood their minds with knowledge until they're vegetables without so much as a moment's notice.

There's simply more options that he has, which he regularly uses in fights.

I always said they could win. But they won't unless they can speedblitz, plain and simple.

Also, it never said Jeroen. So under forum rules, this is the new Doctor. So the stoner, CIS route isn't valid either....even though the same thing would happen with either Doctor.

And to answer your question, yes, I highly doubt they could control his brain function with any modicum of success.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
When he's in a different dimension? Or they're in a different dimension? Or when they're trees?

You're argument of "They think faster than Doctor" falls well short, because the first thing they do is punch, send energy beams, phase, etc. The Doctor, on the other hand, will turn them to puppies or flood their minds with knowledge until they're vegetables without so much as a moment's notice.

There's simply more options that he has, which he regularly uses in fights.

I always said they could win. But they won't unless they can speedblitz, plain and simple.

Also, it never said Jeroen. So under forum rules, this is the new Doctor. So the stoner, CIS route isn't valid either....even though the same thing would happen with either Doctor.

And to answer your question, yes, I highly doubt they could control his brain function with any modicum of success.

Not if they know his powers like in forum rules. Apart from a GL they all think faster. So no they wouldn't punch they'd simply shut him down.

Originally posted by H. S. 6
The Doctor (Jeroen)

It's Jeroen.