K' and Maxima vs Human Torch and Thing

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Avalonofthewind
K' gets an invitation to the KOF tournament and is told to go to NYC to battle his opponent. As usual, he brings the human tank Maxima with him as well as his extraordinary flame control and fighting skill.

First team happens to be Thing and the Human Torch (who joined to hone their own skills.) Johnny and Ben are well rested and ready to fight.

No prep for either side or outside assistance.


Who wins the battle?

guy222
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
K' gets an invitation to the KOF tournament and is told to go to NYC to battle his opponent. As usual, he brings the human tank Maxima with him as well as his extraordinary flame control and fighting skill.

First team happens to be Thing and the Human Torch (who joined to hone their own skills.) Johnny and Ben are well rested and ready to fight.

No prep for either side or outside assistance.


Who wins the battle?

who is k

Charlotte DeBel
K' (Kay Dash) is a hero of fighting game KOF (King Of Fighters) and so is his cyborg friend Maxima.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxima_(The_King_of_Fighters)

K' has fighting skills to beat lame Torch's ass to death. He posseses mystical flames which would be difficult for Torch to control, as well as protection form flames to some degree... The only advantages of Torch is his flight and Supernova... But wouldn't the flight away from ass-kicking be considered as self-BFR?

As for Maxima vs Thing... Maxima is weaker than Thing (even going by his best showings in HongKong NeoSun comics\manga, he's 30tonner at best (hisbest strength feat from those comics\manga is tossing a helicopter), but has better fighting skills than Thing... As well as built-in weaponry (mashineguns/miniature grenade launchers built into his arms and laser cannon in his chest) and Midnighter-like ability to analyse his opponent's moves to predict next attack. Also he has better reaction than Thing (but NOT speed- at least not by far) and he's tactically smarter.

If Torch goes Nova, it gives him Kamikaze-style victory... If not... I'm sorry for FF guys... You need more training and less hamburger-eating.

Charlotte DeBel
K' is handsome as hell... Look at my sig. And Maxima is Canadian...some may think that he's homage to Wolvie...but at least not completely.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=344209& amp;highlight=title%3A%28Kyo+Kusanagi+vs+Human+Tor
ch%29+forumid%3A77

Kyo beats Torch in even more badass way than his cool badass "clone".

And... WTF let that loser Torch into KOF-style tournament...Sounds unrealistic.

Roldz
Ahh, K and Maxima gets there A@%ess kicked.

Kyo might be diff. but his still usin fire which the Torch could easyly absorb.. Now i doubt he could survive a nova blast..

Charlotte DeBel
I'd like to see Torch trying to absorb mystical flame...Not normal one he's used to, but a sacred one...Also Torch has to relate on flames and nothing else, while K' can beat him hand-to-hand WITHOUT RELYING MUCH ON FLAMES(the flaming aura of Torch wouldn't be much of FACTOR).
Supernova is victory for Torch, but a)he also kills Thing in process:b)he can't go Nova instantly and if he on the ground and not 300 feet up in the air (which isn't look much like a good fight, by the way), he has just less than 5 seconds to go Nova before getting knocked out.

guy222
Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
K' (Kay Dash) is a hero of fighting game KOF (King Of Fighters) and so is his cyborg friend Maxima.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxima_(The_King_of_Fighters)

K' has fighting skills to beat lame Torch's ass to death. He posseses mystical flames which would be difficult for Torch to control, as well as protection form flames to some degree... The only advantages of Torch is his flight and Supernova... But wouldn't the flight away from ass-kicking be considered as self-BFR?

As for Maxima vs Thing... Maxima is weaker than Thing (even going by his best showings in HongKong NeoSun comics\manga, he's 30tonner at best (hisbest strength feat from those comics\manga is tossing a helicopter), but has better fighting skills than Thing... As well as built-in weaponry (mashineguns/miniature grenade launchers built into his arms and laser cannon in his chest) and Midnighter-like ability to analyse his opponent's moves to predict next attack. Also he has better reaction than Thing (but NOT speed- at least not by far) and he's tactically smarter.

If Torch goes Nova, it gives him Kamikaze-style victory... If not... I'm sorry for FF guys... You need more training and less hamburger-eating.

thank u for the tip...team one ftw

Charlotte DeBel
K' can't fly- but he can kick and punch Torch's ass with considerable skill more than 25 times in 2 seconds (Heaven Drive DM)... And also his arsenal includes than nice Blackout move- in game it's shown as teleport, actually he moves on short distance so fast, that he looks like a black blurred shadow to human eye...He's Kay DASH, after all... On land he's faster than Torch. Also Torch has NEVER studied martial arts on serious level...

Torch actually >>>K' in doing stuff with flames (although K' has done some impressive stuff and also can block opponent's flames with his Iron Trigger move, also I think it would be difficult for Torch to absorb SACRED falme of Kusanagi, since it's not normal and actually has divine origin- it was given to Kusanagi clan by one version by Susanoo, japanese god of storm)
But K' >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Torch in fighting skills. Think of it as of Torch fighting flame-resistant version of Iron Fist.
As for second pair, I see Maxima being able to outsmart Thing. And I have always wondered how would Thing fare against precise, computer-aimed laser shot in his eye...

Charlotte DeBel
The only chance for Torch here is double KO for both teams by going Nova...

llagrok
Thing is one of the strongest guys in the Marvel universe isn't he? Maxxima wouldn't be able to take him out, and there's no way in hell "k" can defeat them both.

Team 2 10/10

Charlotte DeBel
Originally posted by llagrok
Thing is one of the strongest guys in the Marvel universe isn't he? Maxima wouldn't be able to take him out, and there's no way in hell "k" can defeat them both.

Team 2 10/10

Maxima has more ways to solve problem than just straight up brawl...Computer analysis for Thing's weak points(eyes,maybe), then some laser shoots will certaily cause Thing at least some pain.
In physical strength Thing dominates (Maxima is skilled 30tonner, but he's still 30tonner and can't compete with less skilled but MUCH stronger opponent in straight up brawl)), so Maxima has to find way to outsmart him in battle...Computer analysis+powerful built-in weaponry+being a bit tactically smarter can help a bit.

Charlotte DeBel
Not being a fangirl, I can say that it would eventually come down to K' vs Thing (since Thing's rock hide is really hard to damage and low100tonner can beat 30tonner in a straight up brawl)...

Badabing
Torch has the mobility and Thing has the durability and strength. Torch and Thing have also been teammates for years which is an advantage.

Charlotte DeBel
Thing is actually the strongest link in FF team... He has strength, durability and some fighting skills.
Unlike reskless Storm, who IMO goues down pretty fast, Thing has good chances to hold his own there...
Teamwork is not the major advantage there, since both teams are equal in this area. And K' and Maxima even have some advantages since they don't have to rely on brainiac like Reed tactically backing them up. They have to rely on themselves...

Thing has great resistance to damage- but mostly due to his rock-like skn. He actually has some weak points which can be used by good martial artists (K' is not much below Iron Fist in fighting skills)
http://img18.imageshack.us/my.php?image=thing3zl.jpg

Also his isnsides are less resistant than his skin (if I'm not mistaken) and some powerful fireballs down tis throat may do the job.
The question is whether Thing's durability and strenght advantage is enough to not to be overwhelmed by those means.

Avalonofthewind
Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
Thing is actually the strongest link in FF team... He has strength, durability and some fighting skills.
Unlike reskless Storm, who IMO goues down pretty fast, Thing has good chances to hold his own there...
Teamwork is not the major advantage there, since both teams are equal in this area. And K' and Maxima even have some advantages since they don't have to rely on brainiac like Reed tactically backing them up. They have to rely on themselves...

Thing has great resistance to damage- but mostly due to his rock-like skn. He actually has some weak points which can be used by good martial artists (K' is not much below Iron Fist in fighting skills)
http://img18.imageshack.us/my.php?image=thing3zl.jpg

Also his isnsides are less resistant than his skin (if I'm not mistaken) and some powerful fireballs down tis throat may do the job.
The question is whether Thing's durability and strenght advantage is enough to not to be overwhelmed by those means.

In the KOF 2003 comic, K' was showing battling Kyo and both were throw into mountains (literally cracking them or making holes in them) and still fighting flames and all.

This should be a good battle. Heat also is never good for rocks.

Charlotte DeBel
Actually Thing has some ridiculous durability feats...It can help... Unless there's some spots on Thing's "adaptable rock" hide, strikes in which can cause resonance and eventually pain, rock monster can take victory...
Surviving nukes and Dr Dooms "absolute destruction rays" without scratches can help against this...
http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/8819/kof992610xz5.th.jpg
http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/4361/kof992611fb9.th.jpg

Charlotte DeBel
But- if K' manages to damage Thing's insides (fireball to the thoat or something like that)- it's victory... And as for Torch- K' can and would kick his ass without serious troubles... Thing is the real problem there...

He's MUCH sronger than Maxima... Unless our cyborg's sensors scan Thing's hide for its weak points, strength difference comes into play...
http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/3033/kof20000301il5.th.jpg
http://img481.imageshack.us/img481/800/kof20000305cr1.th.jpg
That's how our Canuck's sensors work in a battle.

Charlotte DeBel
Some flame control feats from K'. "Riding" lava stream (and controlling it by mixing it with his own fire)
http://img489.imageshack.us/img489/3042/2000kof2721gz8.th.jpg
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/2301/2000kof2722rf3.th.jpg
http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/913/2000kof2723jt7.th.jpg

Charlotte DeBel
Strength feats from Maxima (he's strong, but he's just 30tonner and no match for Thing in pure strength competition)

Throwing robot version of T-Rex
http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/394/2000kof2523vv9.th.jpg
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/9010/2000kof2524wb8.th.jpg

Tossing helicopter into a badass called Rugal
http://img487.imageshack.us/img487/7905/ht055022023lin3.th.jpg

Charlotte DeBel
K's speed and a little demonstration of his awesomeness as a fighter.

Speedblitzing some thugs in "WTF hit me" style- boring routine for The Beast Of Prey
http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/9673/2000kof1415ga2.th.jpghttp://img476.imageshack.us/img476/1356/2000kof1414tn9.th.jpg

Easily parrying h2h attack which speed is "like a speeding bullet"
http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/5164/page14yv4.th.jpg
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/7382/page15qb8.th.jpg

Charlotte DeBel
K' is breaking machine made of pretty damage resistant alloys with just one strike (he adds his flame in it, but he definitely knows how to throw STRONG kick)
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/443/2000kof3931dr7.th.jpg

Charlotte DeBel
Sorry for the fact that most of those scans are in Chinese and only few of them are in English...sad

Charlotte DeBel
To sum everything up and not spam this thread, team 1 wins 7-8\10

FF guys have some possibilities to win some fights (Supernova- but it's double KO and there's no Sue to shield Ben from Jonny Storm going all out), but K' and his best Canadian friend have more chances to make it 2 on 1 faster.
Maxima is more agile than Thing and is able to outsmart and outmaneur him for that small amount of time which is needed for K' to KO Torch (unless Torch starts it flying high in the sky, but if it's according to versus setting (fighting tournament) and CIS is allowed then Torch would be trying to "show off" his "fighting skills" and will get his ass kicked in less than a minute).
Then it becomes two-vs-one (K' and Maxima vs Thing), where K' and his friend will be able to get upper hand- but not after good fight.

Charlotte DeBel
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xmarksthespot
Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
K' (Kay Dash) is a hero of fighting game KOF (King Of Fighters) and so is his cyborg friend Maxima.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxima_(The_King_of_Fighters)
You should try clicking your links... ermmha

Charlotte DeBel
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f98/t450783.html
There's a working one on page 3 there.

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