Mothers arrested for forcing there children to have a hardcore match!!!???

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JacopeX
As crazy as this sounds, I say it is all due to bad parenting but there has to be something awful they must of thought to come up with some retarded shit like this! BAH GAWD!

http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,70131-1261618,00.html

Devil King
I think more mothers should do this.

If every one's mothers were like this, we'd be a nation of Captain Kirks.

WrathfulDwarf
Sickening...

JacopeX
Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
Sickening... This is why humanity is not only able to unite (As I said clearly many time), but it is just a disgrace to itself.

Schecter
awesome! BABY FIGHTS!!!

where can we download the video?
i hope they get paid more than those homeless people.

Starhawk
Originally posted by JacopeX
This is why humanity is not only able to unite (As I said clearly many time), but it is just a disgrace to itself.

One of many reasons...

JacopeX
Originally posted by Schecter
awesome! BABY FIGHTS!!!

where can we download the video?
i hope they get paid more than those homeless people. .........No. You fail at trying to make an ass out of yourself and start controversie among other threads. And you're not funny, nor ammusing.

Starhawk
Originally posted by Schecter
awesome! BABY FIGHTS!!!

where can we download the video?
i hope they get paid more than those homeless people.

Are you planning to contribute something useful to one of these threads or just doing what Eclipso did, go around trying to annoy members?

Schecter
yeah, "yap yap yippity yap". my post was at least on topic
unlike....yours.

Devil King
Originally posted by JacopeX
.........No. You fail at trying to make an ass out of yourself and start controversie among other threads. And you're not funny, nor ammusing.

Are you eating a bowl of cheerios? Because I think someone pissed in it.

Schecter
ninja its a fetish

Robtard
Originally posted by JacopeX
This is why humanity is not only able to unite (As I said clearly many time), but it is just a disgrace to itself.

Bad parenting is the cause of humanity not uniting... huh?

JacopeX
Originally posted by Robtard
Bad parenting is the cause of humanity not uniting... huh? Uniting? No, actually I was on the topic of humanity itself.

Bad parenting is part of the Disgrace to humanity itself when I was talking about it.

Sorry about the confusion.

Robtard
Originally posted by Starhawk
Are you planning to contribute something useful to one of these threads or just doing what Eclipso did, go around trying to annoy members?

Hey, you just ****ing lied... you said you wouldn't bring up Eclipso anymore if I played along with your ruse, you also lied to Schector, I can take being lied too, but Schecter? For shame man, for shame.

Starhawk
Originally posted by Schecter
yeah, "yap yap yippity yap". my post was at least on topic
unlike....yours.

You were making a joke about 4 kids being violently traumatized.

Devil King
Originally posted by Starhawk
You were making a joke about 4 kids being violently traumatized.

And he wasn't the only one, so get off him.

Robtard
Since it's gone to shit...

I think the U.K. should outlaw parenting as this could happen again </end knee-jerk>.

Schecter
Originally posted by Starhawk
You were making a joke about 4 kids being violently traumatized.

no, i was using satire to express the hypocritical nature of us all. if you cant get it, i guess thats your own problem, isnt it?

Starhawk
So that makes it right? Explain to me whats funny about it? These kids were made to brutalize each other for their parent's enjoyment. Try to think about that.

BackFire
Originally posted by JacopeX
As crazy as this sounds, I say it is all due to bad parenting but there has to be something awful they must of thought to come up with some retarded shit like this! BAH GAWD!

http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,70131-1261618,00.html

The dad should have beat the shit out of his wife.

JacopeX
Originally posted by Robtard
Since it's gone to shit...

I think the U.K. should outlaw parenting as this could happen again </end knee-jerk>. Again? Parents have encouraged children to smoke, drink, and have sex due to the news I read (Of underage pregancy, Suicide, Ect) and what I hear from my friend who is actually from england.

Robtard
Originally posted by Schecter
no, i was using satire to express the hypocritical nature of us all. if you cant get it, i guess thats your own problem, isnt it?


You're obviously being way to cerebral for this crowd... Should have spelled out "BUM FIGHT".

JacopeX
Originally posted by Robtard
You're obviously being way to cerebral for this crowd... Should have spelled out "BUM FIGHT". Either way, I will not be ammused.

Schecter
Originally posted by Robtard
You're obviously being way to cerebral for this crowd... Should have spelled out "BUM FIGHT".

its ok. he just needs to blow off some steam. "FILTH!!! HOW DARE YOU!!!!...pain and suffering of innocent victims and their families!!!! YAP YAP YAP"

Schecter
Originally posted by BackFire
The dad should have beat the shit out of his wife.

that'll be the sequel.

Starhawk
Originally posted by Schecter
its ok. he just needs to blow off some steam. "FILTH!!! HOW DARE YOU!!!!...pain and suffering of innocent victims and their families!!!! YAP YAP YAP"

Wow, you can tell you've never had to deal with anything like this. Do you feel compassion at all?

Robtard
Originally posted by JacopeX
Either way, I will not be ammused.

Considering you now took my obvious joke even though I said "knee-jerk" seriously, I am not surprised. Would a "knock-knock" joke suit your fancy?

Schecter
Originally posted by Starhawk
Wow, you can tell you've never had to deal with anything like this. Do you feel compassion at all?

stay on topic. you've been derailing this thread and thus disrespecting the memory of....wait, who died here?

Devil King
Originally posted by Starhawk
Wow, you can tell you've never had to deal with anything like this. Do you feel compassion at all?

Feeling compassion doesn't have to result in a total absense of humor.

Starhawk
Originally posted by Devil King
Feeling compassion doesn't have to result in a total absense of humor.

Whats funny about it?

Schecter
Originally posted by Starhawk
Whats funny about it?

honestly.....you laughing out loud

Starhawk
Originally posted by Schecter
honestly.....you laughing out loud

Do you even understand what they did to these kids? They will probably grow up to be violent now and cause more harm.

Devil King
Originally posted by Starhawk
Whats funny about it?

What am I supposed to do? Cry about it? Maybe ask for the death penalty? Should we mark our calenders and celebrate it every year with some sort of awareness day?

Robtard
Originally posted by Starhawk
Do you even understand what they did to these kids? They will probably grow up to be violent now and cause more harm.

Wow... considering the story didn't go into extreme details and no one here has seen the footage, wouldn't you think that assumption is nothing more than a pile of shit? Unless of course, besides being a Law Student , you're also a psychologist with a background in adolescents/children?

Schecter
Originally posted by Starhawk
Do you even understand what they did to these kids? They will probably grow up to be violent now and cause more harm.

so i guess then when that happens like 15-20 years from now and there's a thread on it here, you'll just be screaming to have them killed and calling them nonhuman. its a win/win for you isnt it?

Starhawk
Originally posted by Robtard
Wow... considering the story didn't go into extreme details and no one here sas seen the footage, wouldn't you think that assumption is nothing more than a pile of shit? Unless of course, besides being a Law Student , you're also a psychologist with a back ground in adolescents?

Part of studying law is psychology, and yes we study cases like this one and the long term effects. These kids were told by their parents what they were doing was not only right but that they should keep it up and be more brutal. Think about how that will distort their ideas about violence.

Devil King
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Robtard
Originally posted by Starhawk
Part of studying law is psychology, and yes we study cases like this one and the long term effects. These kids were told by their parents what they were doing was not only right but that they should keep it up and be more brutal. Think about how that will distort their ideas about violence.


B.S., like I said, the article didn't go into extreme details and you haven't seen the footage. All we know is that they were yelled at until they cried (not hard for a two/three year old) and they were told to hit each other. Was it wrong? Yes. Does it mean that these kids will now be scared for life and become predatory monsters? Most likely not; I stress 'most'.

Robtard
Originally posted by Devil King
XyhhFzE5O5U

Best Star Trek scene EVER!

Starhawk
Originally posted by Robtard
B.S., like I said, the article didn't go into extreme details and you haven't seen the footage. All we know is that they were yelled at until they cried (not hard for a two/three year old) and they were told to hit each other. Was it wrong? Yes. Does it mean that these kids will now be scared for life and become predatory monsters? Most likely not; I stress 'most'.

I'm not saying 100% that they will end up violent, only that the statistics on it would suggest it is likely to happen.

inimalist
as someone who studies psychology, I am clearly qualified to clear up this little misunderstanding lol stick out tongue

Being abused correlates positively to being abusive, but only in the VAST minority of cases. The fact that those who have never been abused can become abusive also shows there is more to the story than simple parental attachments.

In fact, most influences of the parent on the child's behaviour evaporate once the child forms their own peer in-group.

I'd almost be willing to argue that negative attachment or rejection at this peer group level is more damaging to a child than rejection at the parental level PROVIDED peer acceptance comes later. Its not my area of specialty, but I could certainly wing it.

Robtard
Originally posted by Starhawk
I'm not saying 100% that they will end up violent, only that the statistics on it would suggest it is likely to happen.



You're saying very young kids who were yelled at and told to hit their peers is the equivalent of having years and years of psychological trauma and physical abuse that many serial murders/predators have in common? I call BullShit again.

Schecter
Originally posted by Devil King


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Starhawk
Originally posted by inimalist
as someone who studies psychology, I am clearly qualified to clear up this little misunderstanding lol stick out tongue

Being abused correlates positively to being abusive, but only in the VAST minority of cases. The fact that those who have never been abused can become abusive also shows there is more to the story than simple parental attachments.

In fact, most influences of the parent on the child's behaviour evaporate once the child forms their own peer in-group.

I'd almost be willing to argue that rejection at this peer group level is more damaging to a child than rejection at the parental level PROVIDED peer acceptance comes later. Its not my area of specialty, but I could certainly wing it.

Well we were taught differently in Criminology. Do you have any stats on it?

Starhawk
Originally posted by Robtard
You're saying very young kids who were yelled at and told to hit their peers is the equivalent of years and years of psychological trauma and physical abuse that many serial murders/predators have in common? I call BullShit again.

Again I didn't say it would guarantee they turn out violent but it could certainly be a very strong contributing factor if they did.

Robtard
Originally posted by Starhawk
Again I didn't say it would guarantee they turn out violent but it could certainly be a very strong contributing factor if they did.

Bull Shit.. Where is your proof?

BTW... You changed your tune from "Probably" to "Likely" to "Strong Contributor"... What's next, "One In A Million Chance"?

inimalist
Originally posted by Starhawk
Well we were taught differently in Criminology. Do you have any stats on it?

I don't have stuff in front of me, you are probably going to have to trust me. And in criminology, they would probably have taught you that the majority of criminals you see will have abusive pasts, however most abuse victims don't become criminals.

I'm remembering that the abuse rate for those who were abused is either 4 or 12 times the national average, but still well below the 50% mark.

this one I'm not 100% on:

"In fact, most influences of the parent on the child's behaviour evaporate once the child forms their own peer in-group."

Devil King
Originally posted by Schecter
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/PVS/loldenburg.jpg

This is clear evidence that you don't have to be a Vulcan to be totally emotionless. How could you? Don't you care?

Starhawk
Originally posted by inimalist
I don't have stuff in front of me, you are probably going to have to trust me. And in criminology, they would probably have taught you that the majority of criminals you see will have abusive pasts, however most abuse victims don't become criminals.

I'm remembering that the abuse rate for those who were abused is either 4 or 12 times the national average, but still well below the 50% mark.

I would be willing to agree that perhaps criminology does teach a more biased view since it deals with only the cases where they did turn out violent.

And for Robtard, I will say this again in simple terms, I never said they were %100 going to turn out violent, only that this could have an effect which could contribute to it. I hope they get some counselling to help deal with what happened.

Schecter
Originally posted by Devil King
This is clear evidence that you don't have to be a Vulcan to be totally emotionless. How could you? Don't you care?

i just made it doped

Robtard
Originally posted by Starhawk

And for Robtard, I will say this again in simple terms, I never said they were %100 going to turn out violent, only that this could have an effect which could contribute to it. I hope they get some counselling to help deal with what happened.

You changed your tune from "Probably" to "Likely" to "Strong Contributor" and now to "Could"... Playing violent video games "could" also contribute to the makings of a predator, though it's a stretch based on the current data.

Counseling? Lol, they're two-three years old, the father can talk with them, explain that is was wrong and "mommy did a very bad thing", I think they'll be fine.

Starhawk
Originally posted by Robtard
You changed your tune from "Probably" to "Likely" to "Strong Contributor" and now to "Could"... Playing violent video games "could" also contribute to the makings of a predator, though it's a stretch based on the current data.

If these kids get counselling there is a good chance based on their young age that they could turn out nonviolent. And in most cases where people were inspired by video games, there was an underlining issue already in existence before the crime.

Robtard
Originally posted by Starhawk
If these kids get counselling there is a good chance based on their young age that they could turn out nonviolent. And in most cases where people were inspired by video games, there was an underlining issue already in existence before the crime.

I edited and responded to your "counseling" bit above... They also could not get any counseling and turn out just fine considering what we know from the article. You're reaching for the stars here and you have yet to figure out the mystery of the folding ladder counselor.

inimalist
Originally posted by Starhawk
If these kids get counselling there is a good chance based on their young age that they could turn out nonviolent. And in most cases where people were inspired by video games, there was an underlining issue already in existence before the crime.

playing video games at 8 predicts aggressive behaviour at 18

as does other potentially violent media

Robtard
Originally posted by inimalist
playing video games at 8 predicts aggressive behaviour at 18

as does other potentially violent media

Is that a fact? Where there less violent people 90 years ago when video games didn't exist?

Starhawk
Originally posted by inimalist
playing video games at 8 predicts aggressive behaviour at 18

as does other potentially violent media

Not always and in most cases there was an underlining disorder already in existence that was set off by the violent media.

inimalist
Originally posted by Robtard
Is that a fact? Where there less violent people 90 years ago when video games didn't exist?

haha, oh god no. Aggression is not at all the same thing as violence. and like the stuff before, its not the vast majority of people who are affected. I will elaborate more on this below.

Originally posted by Starhawk
Not always and in most cases there was an underlining disorder already in existence that was set off by the violent media.

agreed, in most cases that is it. These people also can be triggered by non-media sources and tend to balance out in long term studies. However there may be greater risk for people to have media as a trigger given how hyper-realistic it is.

even in the general public it raises aggression levels. our brain learns conflict resolution in "schema" that give us how to act in certain situations given X cues. In the majority of people, they are able to inhibit the violent schema that they learned from games, however both children and some adults lack this ability. They also lack the ability, on a basic physiological level, to differentiate between real and fantasy, even if they can say things like "tv is only make believe". This fantasy/reality thing is generally true of all brains, and inappropriate sexual behavior toward women can be elicited in men by showing them pornography, so it might not just be a child thing.

Starhawk
Originally posted by inimalist
haha, oh god no. Aggression is not at all the same thing as violence. and like the stuff before, its not the vast majority of people who are affected. I will elaborate more on this below.



agreed, in most cases that is it. These people also can be triggered by non-media sources and tend to balance out in long term studies. However there may be greater risk for people to have media as a trigger given how hyper-realistic it is.

even in the general public it raises aggression levels. our brain learns conflict resolution in "schema" that give us how to act in certain situations given X cues. In the majority of people, they are able to inhibit the violent schema that they learned from games, however both children and some adults lack this ability. They also lack the ability, on a basic physiological level, to differentiate between real and fantasy, even if they can say things like "tv is only make believe". This fantasy/reality thing is generally true of all brains, and inappropriate sexual behavior toward women can be elicited in men by showing them pornography, so it might not just be a child thing.

Oh believe me I understand that it can be very prominent in adults as well. As I said your area of psychological study is broader and farther reaching then mine. So I do deffer to your expertise. I wonder, do you study criminology as well in your courses?

ragesRemorse
Originally posted by JacopeX
As crazy as this sounds, I say it is all due to bad parenting but there has to be something awful they must of thought to come up with some retarded shit like this! BAH GAWD!

http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,70131-1261618,00.html

YES!!! rock rock everything about that is awsome

Schecter
i know i throw fastballs so ill repeat and slow it down.
if those kids grow up to be violent criminals will you
support the state executing them?

(2 part question)
with a level of hatred to call them 'not human'?

Starhawk
Originally posted by Schecter
i know i throw fastballs so ill repeat and slow it down.
if those kids grow up to be violent criminals will you
support the state executing them?

(2 part question)
with a level of hatred to call them 'not human'?

Capital Punishment (which I strongly support) is not the topic of this thread.

ragesRemorse
Originally posted by Schecter
i know i throw fastballs so ill repeat and slow it down.
if those kids grow up to be violent criminals will you
support the state executing them?

(2 part question)
with a level of hatred to call them 'not human'?

i never made it past the first sentence...sorry. Yeah, i would support it, why not? There are millions of abused cildren that turn out to be fairly normal

Schecter
Originally posted by Starhawk
Capital Punishment (which I strongly support) is not the topic of this thread.


what a copout. why are you afraid to answer? just a "no, and no" or "yes and no" or "yes and yes". and thats it. its not an opening of a new discussion.

if you dodge it ill just bump another thread you want us to forget and ask you there.

:edit: this is an excersise in confronting truth. dont fight it.

Schecter
Originally posted by ragesRemorse
i never made it past the first sentence...sorry. Yeah, i would support it, why not? There are millions of abused cildren that turn out to be fairly normal


no, its cool. i was only asking him though. (i should have said clearly) didnt want to shift topic :edit: further

Starhawk
Originally posted by Schecter
what a copout. why are you afraid to answer? just a "no, and no" or "yes and no" or "yes and yes". and thats it. its not an opening of a new discussion.

if you dodge it ill just bump another thread you want us to forget and ask you there.

No matter which answer I gave you would've responded and the topic would have shifted. Make a thread discussing capital punishment if you want to discuss that.

ragesRemorse
Originally posted by Schecter
no, its cool. i was only asking him though. (i should have said clearly) didnt want to shift topic :edit: further

i figured, but at any rate, how was my contribution? embarrasment

Schecter
Originally posted by Starhawk
No matter which answer I gave you would've responded and the topic would have shifted. Make a thread discussing capital punishment if you want to discuss that.

fine then, its "yes" "no"


thats all i wanted to know. have your precious topics back.

Alpha Centauri
I'd have been at the side, chanting the standard wrestling fan chant:

"THIS.IS.AW.SOME!".

Nah seriously, it's a bit shit. I don't see the point of threads like this, though.

*Posts a news article*

"Yeah, bad that.", "Mhm!", "...".

-AC

silver_tears
Originally posted by JacopeX
Carole Olver said: "I didn't see any harm in toughening them up - I done the same with my own children."

Says it all right there.

chithappens
Originally posted by inimalist
haha, oh god no. Aggression is not at all the same thing as violence. and like the stuff before, its not the vast majority of people who are affected. I will elaborate more on this below.



agreed, in most cases that is it. These people also can be triggered by non-media sources and tend to balance out in long term studies. However there may be greater risk for people to have media as a trigger given how hyper-realistic it is.

even in the general public it raises aggression levels. our brain learns conflict resolution in "schema" that give us how to act in certain situations given X cues. In the majority of people, they are able to inhibit the violent schema that they learned from games, however both children and some adults lack this ability. They also lack the ability, on a basic physiological level, to differentiate between real and fantasy, even if they can say things like "tv is only make believe". This fantasy/reality thing is generally true of all brains, and inappropriate sexual behavior toward women can be elicited in men by showing them pornography, so it might not just be a child thing.

I have to call uber BS.

FeceMan
Wait, so why isn't the footage of the fight up on YouTube? I'd ROFL at that.

Starhawk
Originally posted by FeceMan
Wait, so why isn't the footage of the fight up on YouTube? I'd ROFL at that.

You need therapy if thats true.

Secretus
Originally posted by Starhawk
You need therapy if thats true.


And thats comin from a stalker .. I lol'd

Starhawk
Originally posted by Secretus
And thats comin from a stalker .. I lol'd

I'm not a stalker. You are following me around from thread to thread, your acting like a stalker.

Secretus
Originally posted by Starhawk
I'm not a stalker. You are following me around from thread to thread, your acting like a stalker.

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http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s167/Secretus74/ththicallitlove.gif


**** you

Starhawk
Originally posted by Secretus
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http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s167/Secretus74/ththicallitlove.gif


**** you

This isn't the OTF, here we talk with our big boy voice and discuss real things.

inimalist
Originally posted by chithappens
I have to call uber BS.

on what?

Mindship
Time to sterilize...

Röland
Originally posted by Starhawk
You need therapy if thats true.

He doesn't need therapy, that's part of the human psyche to want to see stuff like that.

Why do you think people watch NASCAR and racing in general? We want to see some wrecks! 13

chillmeistergen
haha they come from near me.

Starhawk

Röland
Originally posted by Starhawk
Actually I think the majority of people would find that disgusting. What if it was your kid?

Do you always take every comment so seriously? roll eyes (sarcastic)

Of course I think what happened is wrong, but worse things than this happen to kids on a daily basis.

It's always a different point of view when it's a person's kid compared to the parent reading or hearing about the incident in the news.

Starhawk

Schecter
Originally posted by Starhawk
Actually I think the majority of people would find that disgusting. What if it was your kid?

if it was my kid i would have given them a steel chair or maybe brass knuckles.

Originally posted by FeceMan
Wait, so why isn't the footage of the fight up on YouTube? I'd ROFL at that.

lolgasm

Starhawk
Originally posted by Schecter
if it was my kid i would have given them a steel chair or maybe brass knuckles.



lolgasm

I hope you never have kids then.

Schecter
Originally posted by Starhawk
I hope you never have kids then.

o rly?

Starhawk
Yes, if you would not only put your kid through something like this, but also arm him with weapons then yes I do think you should probably not be raising a child.

Schecter
Originally posted by Starhawk
Yes, if you would not only put your kid through something like this, but also arm him with weapons then yes I do think you should probably not be raising a child.

why would you say that? the other kids have brushes and magazines. i wouldnt be a very loving and caring parent if i didnt give my kid every advantage possible....like perhaps a taser.

Starhawk
Originally posted by Schecter
why would you say that? the other kids have brushes and magazines. i wouldnt be a very loving and caring parent if i didnt give my kid every advantage possible....like perhaps a taser.

That's sick.

Schecter
Originally posted by Starhawk
That's sick.

no, sick would be sending my kid into a hardcore match unprepared. THATS sick. i bet you'd just send the kid in unarmed, right? sickening.

Starhawk
Originally posted by Schecter
no, sick would be sending my kid into a hardcore match unprepared. THATS sick. i bet you'd just send the kid in unarmed, right? sickening.

Actually, I have no desire to have children at all. For that matter marriage is a pretty bad idea too. I prefer to live a free life.

Rogue Jedi
so being in a relationship means your freedom is taken away?

Starhawk
In my case, absolutely. Once you have a wife and children, if your going to be a good responsible parent, your free time is pretty much gone.

Rogue Jedi
but your free time is not gone, it is just occupied doing other things. i dont have kids yet. when i do, IF i do, i have heard from parents that have kids that your entire outlook on life changes. they become your first and most important priority in life.

time will tell, right?

Starhawk
Yup and I hope if and when you have children they are healthy and bring nothing but joy an happiness to your life. It's just not something for me.

Rogue Jedi
i am nowhere near ready yet. hell, i mikght not ever be ready, and i will never try and force it upon whoever is the prospective mother. and, god willing, if i have them, they will be strong as an ox. laughing out loud

FeceMan
Originally posted by Schecter
no, sick would be sending my kid into a hardcore match unprepared. THATS sick. i bet you'd just send the kid in unarmed, right? sickening.
I'm laughing at this.

Alpha Centauri
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
they become your first and most important priority in life.

I've never understood why this can ever be considered a good thing, and yes, it has been explained many, many times over, still no sense.

Them becoming a focal point, fine, but becoming the most important priority over even yourself, ludicrous. Especially considering you need to be in tip top condition, whatever that may mean, to look after a kid.

-AC

Rogue Jedi
when you have something in your life that is more important to you than your own life, someone and/or something that is worth dying for, i can see why it would become your top priority.

guess i am not much of a self preservationist.

Alpha Centauri
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
when you have something in your life that is more important to you than your own life, someone and/or something that is worth dying for, i can see why it would become your top priority.

guess i am not much of a self preservationist.

That doesn't make it sensible. If you don't take care of yourself, the person who will look after the kid, how will you care for another growing human?

I'm not saying neglect the kid, making it a high priority even, but all this "It's more important than me." is just stuff people think they have to say. It's part of the "I'm enlightened cos I have a kid." package.

-AC

Rogue Jedi
no, i mean that their welfare is more important to you than your own. of course you take care of yourself, duh. but if you have to make a great sacrifice for them, you make it.

i see parents all the time with kids, wanting things for them that they never had growing up, and they do anything to attain these things for their kids. there has to be a point to this, i see it all the time.

Alpha Centauri
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
no, i mean that their welfare is more important to you than your own. of course you take care of yourself, duh. but if you have to make a great sacrifice for them, you make it.

Not at the expense of them and you being worse off in the long run, that's just stupid. You are the provider, so you have to make sure you can provide.

I agree with you on many counts, just not the number one priority thing.

-AC

Rogue Jedi
dunno. maybe my outlook will change one day, when and if i have kids.

Alpha Centauri
Why when and if?

One or the other, surely. Either you do want them, or you don't, or you're not sure.

That's another thing I dislike, the fact that it's a forgone conclusion everyone wants a kid.

-AC

Rogue Jedi
nothing in this life is certain. i might have kids, i might not have kids. i might have 1 kid. i might have 6 kids. maybe there is a problem with my sperm count. maybe my sperm is as strong as a .44 magnum.

i will say that all men in my family have produced at least two kids. i am the straggler, me and my cousin kevin.

Alpha Centauri
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
nothing in this life is certain. i might have kids, i might not have kids. i might have 1 kid. i might have 6 kids. maybe there is a problem with my sperm count. maybe my sperm is as strong as a .44 magnum.

That's my point. "Might", not "When.".

-AC

Rogue Jedi
it works both ways. you can't plan on everything that is thrown at you in this life. do i want to have kids one day? yes. am i certain i will have kids one day? nope. things happen sometimes that force you to change your desires and/or goals.

Alpha Centauri
Still counts as "If" really.

Desire doesn't guarantee fruition.

-AC

Rogue Jedi
that's what i am saying. just because you want something doesn't mean you will get it. all you can do is strive for it. if it doesn't happen, deal with it and move on. this rolls over into every aspect of life.

StyleTime
...so you agree that it's "if".

As for the topic, I'm not sure why they derived pleasure from watching such young children fight. I can barely tolerate unskilled fighters fighting, much less toddlers.

Alpha Centauri
Just fun.

-AC

Rogue Jedi
watching toddlers fight is fun? i guess if they had blades and shit.

Schecter
http://z.about.com/d/animatedtv/1/7/C/H/sp801_Good_Times_With_Weapons.jpg
leeeeeeeets fighting looooooooove!!!
leeeeeeeets fighting looooooooove!!!

Rogue Jedi
i totally saw that coming!!! laughing out loud

Shelbert Lemon
south park is greatness happy

and those mothers are wacked erm

Rogue Jedi
wiggity wiggity wacked?

Shelbert Lemon
add an extra wiggity

Rogue Jedi
can i get jiggity with it?

Shelbert Lemon
only if figgity can come as well.

Rogue Jedi
what about Fugg? can he come too?

Shelbert Lemon
Who is Fugg?

Robtard
Originally posted by Shelbert Lemon
Who is Fugg?

He's the guy that uses Rogue Jedi's colon as a sperm-dump. Real snappy dresser though.

Rogue Jedi
sperm dump? ewwww......you kiss your momma with that mouth? laughing out loud

Schecter
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
sperm dump? ewwww......you kiss your momma with that mouth? laughing out loud

i heard he kisses yours with that mouth.






(schecter with the rebound! he shoots! he scores! Happy Dance )

Rogue Jedi
impossible. she'd have to actually put her joint down long enough to kiss him.

Schecter
ill hold it for her smokin'

G U I T A R
ZOMG! I wanna watch baby fights!

Schecter
YOU HORRIBLE SUBHUMAN!!! HOW DARE YOU MAKE FUN OF THE PAIN AND SUFFERING OF CHILDREN!!! *weeps uncontrollably*

Starhawk
All I am saying is that if you find the concept of parents brutalizing their kids funny, then there is something wrong with you.

Schecter
LOL

Alpha Centauri
Originally posted by Starhawk
All I am saying is that if you find the concept of parents brutalizing their kids funny, then there is something wrong with you.

I'd say the same about liking Harry Potter, to be quite honest.

-AC

Starhawk
There is a difference between not liking a work of fiction and getting a wood off of the suffering of little kids.

Alpha Centauri
Who said anything about getting a wood?

Who said anything about enjoying the suffering? People watch boxing cos it's entertaining to them, not to say "Oh wow, YES! That man is in pain, this is why I am watching this.".

Besides, I was joking. Though if it was a choice between making my kids have a hardcore match or read Harry Potter...well...you'll have to get back to me.

-AC

Starhawk
It's still not something to joke about. What is funny about this situation?

Schecter
Originally posted by Starhawk
It's still not something to joke about. What is funny about this situation?

i agree. nothing funny about harry potter fanboys. *bows head in mourning*

Starhawk
See AC? ^ That's what I mean.

Robtard
Originally posted by Starhawk
It's still not something to joke about. What is funny about this situation?

For how little information that article told us, you sure are getting your little pink panties in a bunch. All we know is that a few toddlers were yelled at until they cried and they were made to hit each other; I highly doubt these toddlers have enough physical strength to severely damage one another. Was it wrong of these mothers ? Yes; no one is saying it is otherwise, so stop with all the phony "I CARE!" showboating.

chillmeistergen
Originally posted by Starhawk
See AC? ^ That's what I mean.

If you're over the age of say 18, and, you still love Harry Potter, then I too find it distressing. If however, you're younger, fair enough. The sig still winds me up though..

Schecter
Originally posted by Robtard
so stop with all the phony "I CARE!" showboating.

more like "ZOMG YOU'RE EVIL!!!1" showboating. (as per the usual)

starhawk, you need to wash that bloodspot off your panties

Starhawk
Originally posted by Robtard
For how little information that article told us, you sure are getting your little pink panties in a bunch. All we know is that a few toddlers were yelled at until they cried and they were made to hit each other; I highly doubt these toddlers have enough physical strength to severely damage one another. Was it wrong of these mothers ? Yes; no one is saying it is otherwise, so stop with all the phony "I CARE!" showboating.

It's not phony and whether or not these children suffered physical damage, they definitely suffered emotional damage.

Whether or not your saying the mother's are right, it's still not something to joke about or find humor in.

chillmeistergen
Originally posted by Starhawk
It's not phony and whether or not these children suffered physical damage, they definitely suffered emotional damage.

Whether or not your saying the mother's are right, it's still not something to joke about or find humor in.

To be honest starhawk there are far bigger injustices in the world.

Starhawk
Originally posted by chillmeistergen
To be honest starhawk there are far bigger injustices in the world.

So your theory is that we should ignore or not get upset about all but the worst injustices in the world?

Robtard
Originally posted by Starhawk
It's not phony and whether or not these children suffered physical damage, they definitely suffered emotional damage.

Whether or not your saying the mother's are right, it's still not something to joke about or find humor in.

Again, you're guessing here, for all you know these kids have already forgotten their "torment" and they're fine.

NO, let me repeat... NO ON IS SAYING THE MOTHERS WERE IN THE RIGHT. As far as people joking, the majority of it is due to your standing on a soapbox and preaching about others lack of morals.

Starhawk
Originally posted by Robtard
Again, you're guessing here, for all you know these kids have already forgotten their "torment" and they're fine.

NO, let me repeat... NO ON IS SAYING THE MOTHERS WERE IN THE RIGHT. As far as people joking, the majority of it is due to your standing on a soapbox and preaching about others lack of morals.

You don't know whether or not they are suffering emotionally.

And I never said they were, I said there is nothing funny about this and that it is wrong to make a joke about it. Child abuse in many forms is rampant in today's world. We need to start taking it seriously and stop laughing at it.

Schecter
Originally posted by Robtard
NO, let me repeat... NO ON IS SAYING THE MOTHERS WERE IN THE RIGHT.

exactly. stupid thoughtless mothers...to think, no tables, ladders, and chairs.
just brushes and magazines. how positively weak. of course thumbtacks and
barbed wire is where i draw the line. these are just toddlers ffs.

Starhawk
Originally posted by Schecter
exactly. stupid thoughtless mothers...to think, no tables, ladders, and chairs.
just brushes and magazines. how positively weak. of course thumbtacks and
barbed wire is where i draw the line. these are just toddlers ffs.

Originally posted by Starhawk
You don't know whether or not they are suffering emotionally.

And I never said they were, I said there is nothing funny about this and that it is wrong to make a joke about it. Child abuse in many forms is rampant in today's world. We need to start taking it seriously and stop laughing at it.

Robtard
Originally posted by Starhawk
You don't know whether or not they are suffering emotionally.

And I never said they were, I said there is nothing funny about this and that it is wrong to make a joke about it. Child abuse in many forms is rampant in today's world. We need to start taking it seriously and stop laughing at it.

EXACTLY and I am not the one guessing on how they're going to suffer in the future as fact, you ass.

Again, not a single person said this behavior was okay or acceptable, sure there were a few jokes; that is all they were, tasteless jokes. Considering child abuse is illegal and in this case these woman were charged with crimes, it's safe to say that it IS being taken seriously.

Schecter
Originally posted by Starhawk


LOL

Starhawk
Originally posted by Robtard
EXACTLY and I am not the one guessing on how they're going to suffer in the future as fact, you ass.

Again, not a single person said this behavior was okay or acceptable, sure there were a few jokes; that is all they were, tasteless jokes. Considering child abuse is illegal and in this case these woman were charged with crimes, it's safe to say that it IS being taken seriously.

Then people on here need to stop making a joke out of this and take it seriously as well. This isn't the OTF, The GDF is for serious issues.

Robtard
Originally posted by Starhawk
Then people on here need to stop making a joke out of this and take it seriously as well. This isn't the OTF, The GDF is for serious issues.

If you're going to be this 'educated student of the law', you really need to stop acting like a clown, otherwise your ruse is transparent.

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