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Stick, Shang Chi, Iron fist and Taskmaster take on Sabretooth and Cyber in an arena....this time there is nowhere to hide. My MA team have some equipment and differences.

1. They all have vibranuim weave suits covered from head to toe.
2. They all have secondary adamantuim weapons. Not indestructible but very hard.

a) Stick has an adamantuim staff
b) Shang Chi has a pair of adamntuim nunchukas
c) Taskmaster has an adamantuim sword

The battle plan is that Stick will take on Sabretooth. Shang Chi, Taskmaster and Iron fist will try to hold off Cyber long enough so that Stick can deafeat Sabretooth and help the others beat Cyber.

Other things to note:

a)Shang Chi starts amped with Chi...this does not mean he will be amped for the whole duration.
b)Taskmaster has a pair of balls and is not a coward

Does the MA team win?

Team takes it 9/10

Iron Fist has beaten Sabertooth several times by himself, with the team its a stomp.

Don't ask me how they beat Cyber, but I reckon they would .

Team wins.

Plan: Have Stick hold off Cyber while the other 3 kill Sabretooth.

Then 4 against one...with intent of beating Cyber's face into pulp.

Team wins 9/10

Originally posted by CasanoVa
Team takes it 9/10

Iron Fist has beaten Sabertooth several times by himself, with the team its a stomp.

Don't ask me how they beat Cyber, but I reckon they would .

Isnt that PIS? Sabretooth is apparently better than Wolverine and Sabretooth has completely owned Wolverine before.

Didnt think it was gonna be that easy.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Isnt that PIS? Sabretooth is apparently better than Wolverine and Sabretooth has completely owned Wolverine before.

Didnt think it was gonna be that easy.

No, it's happened several times (about three IIRC), so I doubt very much that it's PIS. Sabertooth is better than Wolverine? Yeah, but so's Iron Fist.

Yeah, the three of them take out Sabertooth reasonably easy, but Cyber's a much different story.

Originally posted by CasanoVa
No, it's happened several times (about three IIRC), so I doubt very much that it's PIS. Sabertooth is better than Wolverine? Yeah, but so's Iron Fist.

Yeah, the three of them take out Sabertooth reasonably easy, but Cyber's a much different story.

and IF beat Sabretooth despite his upgrades?.....Meh Cyber has adamantuim skin but I dont think hes as fast as Sabretooth, basically they just have to go for the face.

Originally posted by Alfheim
and IF beat Sabretooth despite his upgrades?.....Meh Cyber has adamantuim skin but I dont think hes as fast as Sabretooth, basically they just have to go for the face.

Iron Fist beat Sabretooth when he was still the "Slasher"... who didn't really have any powers other then night vision. Sabretooth underwent massive retcons to get him from the Iron Fist/Powerman villain to the Wolverine arch enemy.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Iron Fist beat Sabretooth when he was still the "Slasher"... who didn't really have any powers other then night vision. Sabretooth underwent massive retcons to get him from the Iron Fist/Powerman villain to the Wolverine arch enemy.

Well according to Casanova it happened several times....all these times were before he got upgraded?

Originally posted by Alfheim
Well according to Casanova it happened several times....all these times were before he got upgraded?

They've fought three times.

1 (Danny was BLINDED and Sabes was pre-Wolverine)

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3rd (Iron Fist's chi was messed and a single ninja was enough to cause him great difficulty).

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And the rest.

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Originally posted by Alfheim
Stick, Shang Chi, Iron fist and Taskmaster take on Sabretooth and Cyber in an arena....this time there is nowhere to hide. My MA team have some equipment and differences.

1. They all have vibranuim weave suits covered from head to toe.
2. They all have secondary adamantuim weapons. Not indestructible but very hard.

a) Stick has an adamantuim staff
b) Shang Chi has a pair of adamntuim nunchukas
c) Taskmaster has an adamantuim sword

The battle plan is that Stick will take on Sabretooth. Shang Chi, Taskmaster and Iron fist will try to hold off Cyber long enough so that Stick can deafeat Sabretooth and help the others beat Cyber.

Other things to note:

a)Shang Chi starts amped with Chi...this does not mean he will be amped for the whole duration.
b)Taskmaster has a pair of balls and is not a coward

Does the MA team win?

team should win

That was pretty impressive I rate Iron Fist. This could possibly make Iron Fist the best street leveler. I didnt know he was that good.

Originally posted by Alfheim
That was pretty impressive I rate Iron Fist. This could possibly make Iron Fist the best street leveler. I didnt know he was that good.

Read this, there's far more.

http://herochat.com/forum/index.php/topic,124234.0.html#quickreply

Thorion did a great job IMO.

actaully IF got toyed with the entire tiem and got his ass kicked...........even after that final punch sabertooth was fine........


sabertooth would kick the shit out of IF.



stick with an adamtium bo staff actaully hurts him not helps

Originally posted by capt it up
actaully IF got toyed with the entire tiem and got his ass kicked...........


IF was depowered.

Originally posted by capt it up

even after that final punch sabertooth was fine........


That may be the case but IF was depowered he didnt have his Iron Fist but despite that his punch clearly hurt alot.

Originally posted by capt it up

sabertooth would kick the shit out of IF.


Not from what I can see.

Originally posted by capt it up

stick with an adamtium bo staff actaully hurts him not helps

How?.

People who are skilled enough in martial arts are still capable of injuring Wolverine and Sabretooth. That's where Shang Chi comes in.

Iron Fist is capable of punching straight through Colossus. He can punch straight through Cyber's face.

I'm not sure when all those fights take place but any Sabretooth fights before 1986 are "Slasher" fights where he lacked the healing factor and physical attributes that make him Sabretooth... so they really aren't of any use in a debate.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I'm not sure when all those fights take place but any Sabretooth fights before 1986 are "Slasher" fights where he lacked the the healing factor and physical attributes of Sabretooth.


I dont think that applies to the last set of scans.

I think Shang Chi would manage to take out Cyber by himself honestly. As for Sabretooth, given the weapons the team gets, he gets smashed. These are some of the best hand to hand fighters, ever.

Originally posted by Alfheim
I dont think that applies to the last set of scans.

Its a MCP issue, from maybe 92 or 93; which is why Sabretooth is effortlessly toying with Danny and why having a sewer dropped on him barely even slowed him down.

Originally posted by capt it up
actaully IF got toyed with the entire tiem and got his ass kicked...........even after that final punch sabertooth was fine........


Oh yeah I forgot to mention that Sabretooth wasnt holding back the whole time. Sabretooth clearly at one point in the fight states that he stops holding back.


Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Its a MCP issue, from maybe 92 or 93;


Im quite sure Sabre had an upgrade in 93.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin

which is why Sabretooth is effortlessly toying with Danny and why having a sewer dropped on him barely even slowed him down.

He wasnt toying with him the whole time. Anyway I think you are saying in this instance Sabre was upgraded.

Originally posted by redhotrash
I think Shang Chi would manage to take out Cyber by himself honestly. As for Sabretooth, given the weapons the team gets, he gets smashed. These are some of the best hand to hand fighters, ever.

You do know that Cybre has over powered Strong Guy, as well as waded through Havok's attacks and man handled Wolverine, right?

Originally posted by Alfheim
Im quite sure Sabre had an upgrade in 93.

He wasnt toying with him the whole time. Anyway I think you are saying in this instance Sabre was upgraded.

As I said earlier.

Pre 1986 = Slasher (aka non-mutant, no power Sabretooth)

Post 1986 = Sabretooth.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
As I said earlier.

Pre 1986 = Slasher (aka non-mutant, no power Sabretooth)

Post 1986 = Sabretooth.



Yeah but im quite sure Sabre had an upgrade around 1993. The 1993 Sabre is not the same as the 1986 one. He has had more than one change.

So that statement doesnt really help.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
You do know that Cybre has over powered Strong Guy, as well as waded through Havok's attacks and man handled Wolverine, right?

I don't think he'd resist the current Havok's attacks.

Originally posted by Alfheim
IF was depowered.



That may be the case but IF was depowered he didnt have his Iron Fist but despite that his punch clearly hurt alot.



Not from what I can see.



How?. \
IF did use the iron fist in the last attack.........


You think IF can take sabertooth the majority? are you out of your mind?



actaully the punch did pritty much nothing it was the fact he hit gas and blow the **** up............and even that did nothing.



Do you know any thing about BO staff fighting? The reason it wood is becuase wood bends. A Metal staff does not and actaully stops the bo staff fighter from accomplishing most of his moves making him far less effective..........why does not one realize this am I the only one who knows any thing about BO staffs............

Originally posted by capt it up

IF did use the iron fist in the last attack.........


No he did not. Read it again he used Chi. IF states he does not have the IF.

Originally posted by capt it up

You think IF can take sabertooth the majority? are you out of your mind?

Considering that Sabretooth wasnt holding back and IF was depowered.....maybe.


Originally posted by capt it up

actaully the punch did pritty much nothing it was the fact he hit gas and blow the **** up............and even that did nothing.

The bit where Sabre says "Argggggghhh!!!"



Originally posted by capt it up

Do you know any thing about BO staff fighting? The reason it wood is becuase wood bends. A Metal staff does not and actaully stops the bo staff fighter from accomplishing most of his moves making him far less effective..........why does not one realize this am I the only one who knows any thing about BO staffs............

O wow please forgive me I didnt know .......gezzzzz

Originally posted by Alfheim
Considering that Sabretooth wasnt holding back and IF was depowered.....maybe.


If Sabretooth is punching you... he is holding back.

If Sabretooth decides to stand there and let you land your "best shot" while he does nothing.... he is holding back.

If Sabretooth refrains from killing you when you are on the ground so that he can mess you up some more... he is holding back.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
If Sabretooth is punching you... he is holding back.

If Sabretooth decides to stand there and let you land your "best shot" while he does nothing.... he is holding back.

If Sabretooth refrains from killing you when you are on the ground so that he can mess you up some more... he is holding back.


If sabretooth states "I was holding back before but now im not" then hes not holding back.

Cyber's venom can **** all of these guys up, chi or not. He gets even a scratch or two on them, he can win. The problem is, can they bash his face in or use some kind of internal organ damaging attacks that would go through his armor? If the answer is yes, they can win.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Cyber's venom can **** all of these guys up, chi or not. He gets even a scratch or two on them, he can win. The problem is, can they bash his face in or use some kind of internal organ damaging attacks that would go through his armor? If the answer is yes, they can win.

they all vibranuim weave suits....I think that would help a bit. Shang Chi has survived something like a 100 ft falla nd survived..yeah he was KOed but he didnt even have any protection. Shang gets the suit and he starts amped with Chi.

Sorry, missed that. They're probably gonna win.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Sorry, missed that. They're probably gonna win.

Dont get me wrong I don,t think the vibranuim weave suits are perfect. I mean they are colpletely bulletproof and knife proof. Its not like kevlar were they stop the bullets but you can still get bruised or winded., these suits make the bullets drop to the ground because they absorb impact.

In saying that if you Cyber has been able to slice a big safe easily with his claws.... I think the suits provide some protection, but they are going to have to use some skill to avoid being hurt...they can still get injured badly.

The suits will protect them from a glancing hit, and that's all the edge they need to have a shot at beating Cyber.

Originally posted by Alfheim
If sabretooth states "I was holding back before but now im not" then hes not holding back.

And he wasn't holding back... for the one panel that preceded that one liner. He hit Danny once, dropped... and then started fooling around with him until, IF had time to launch an attack. If he was serious he would have killed him when he was on the ground, but instead he starting toying with him.

And Cyber's claws are admanatium and Adamantium has cleaved clean through solid vibranium before (a shield no less) which is much more durable then vibranium micro-weave.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
And he wasn't holding back... for the one panel that preceded that one liner.

I dont know what your talkign about...

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Current versions unless otherwise stated, eh?

Cyber's a punk now....

He'll get going in the fight, and have a heart attack. .

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
And he wasn't holding back... for the one panel that preceded that one liner. He hit Danny once, dropped... and then started fooling around with him until, IF had time to launch an attack. If he was serious he would have killed him when he was on the ground, but instead he starting toying with him.



Slamming your head against a wall is toying. just because hes not using his claws doesnt mean hes holding back. Once Sabretooth punched Wolverine in the face instead of trying to claw him doesnt mean he was holding back. Seems to me that sabretooth just wanted to finish off IF in this particular way.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin

And Cyber's claws are admanatium and Adamantium has cleaved clean through solid vibranium before (a shield no less) which is much more durable then vibranium micro-weave.

Well I think it can provide some protection. There going to have to try and use some of their MA skills to avoid full force blows and Shang Chi starts amped with Chi. Shang ahs survived a 100ft fall without and portection and not being amped.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Slamming your head against a wall is toying. just because hes not using his claws doesnt mean hes holding back. Once Sabretooth punched Wolverine in the face instead of trying to claw him doesnt mean he was holding back. Seems to me that sabretooth just wanted to finish off IF in this particular way.


I believe I've been pretty adamant on the fact that I believe Sabretooth has toyed with Wolverine in almost every one of their fights.

Pay attention! Cyber'll kill himself in this fight. This is, more or less, Stick, Danny, Shang, and Taskmaster against Sabretooth. .

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I believe I've been pretty adamant on the fact that I believe Sabretooth has toyed with Wolverine in almost every one of their fights.

I think that was their first comic fight. I dont think he was toying with Wolverine he didnt have his upgrades. He couldnt afford to Sabre didnt ahve adamantuim then but he did have a healing factor.

Gah! Everyone's ignoring me.

I'm gonna go pout in a corner. .

Originally posted by Soljer
Gah! Everyone's ignoring me.

I'm gonna go pout in a corner. .

Aww. Don't leave. I'm listening. I thought Cyber not only had the adamantium skin back, but that he was upgraded to class 30?

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Aww. Don't leave. I'm listening. I thought Cyber not only had the adamantium skin back, but that he was upgraded to class 30?

Wolverine put him in a nelson. And, later, tied him up with regular old chains.

I very much doubt he's class thirty.

Originally posted by Soljer
Wolverine put him in a nelson. And, later, tied him up with regular old chains.

I very much doubt he's class thirty.

...................ouch. He got WTFPWNed by Wolverine? ermmlaugh

Yeah, sounds like he's ****ed.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
...................ouch. He got WTFPWNed by Wolverine? ermmlaugh

Yeah, sounds like he's ****ed.

Nah. He was owning Wolverine for a little while, until he had a heart attack.

Literally.

The body he is in now has a bad heart, so after a little bit of fighting, his heart sped up too much, and he damn near died.

But that was AFTER he got put in a nelson by Logan. .

Ah reckon d' first team is lible ta take a majarty.