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Hulk - Savage, starts enraged
Doomsay - DOS, no blitz, gets 1 death
Juggernaut - Classic

Fight on the mars.

Juggernaut, doomsday isnt that good unless he gets his evolving thing... in which Juggy would win first round then tie after that

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Hulk - Savage, starts enraged
Doomsay - DOS, no blitz, gets 1 death
Juggernaut - Classic

Fight on the mars.
hulk is first to go,juggs kills dd,dd respawns then dd for the win after a incredibly long fight.probebly a draw though?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Hulk - Savage, starts enraged
Doomsay - DOS, no blitz, gets 1 death
Juggernaut - Classic

Fight on the mars.

interesting fight

Well, Doomsday starts off far stronger than any of these guys. Doomsday already suffered a beat down death by Supes' in DOS...so, Juggernaut isn't winning that way. If Hulk is taken out first...then it's just a stalemate between Doomsday and Juggernaut...with Juggs taking a shitload of punishment....but staying conscious.

Hulk wins.

Nobody here is powerful enough to kill the Hulk. They are to much equal. The only thing is that Hulk, after some hour, or day, will be so powerful, that he'll overcome the two others.

Hulk with HF and unlimited potential for the win.

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
Hulk wins.

Nobody here is powerful enough to kill the Hulk. They are to much equal. The only thing is that Hulk, after some hour, or day, will be so powerful, that he'll overcome the two others.

Hulk with HF and unlimited potential for the win. http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t49/SymmetricChaos/picard.jpg

No. It's between Juggs and DD. Hulk dies hard against either of them.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Hulk dies hard against either of them.

How, pray tell, is Cain going to do anything other than stalemate Hulk?

Hulk can't beat Juggernaut. and Juggs has unlimited stamina. Hulk's blows can't hurt Juggernaut, Juggs will take their toll on Hulk.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Hulk can't beat Juggernaut. and Juggs has unlimited stamina. Hulk's blows can't hurt Juggernaut, Juggs will take their toll on Hulk.

No they won't. Hulk's rage increases his strength, speed, durability and HF.

His endurace is also basicly unlimited.

Hits from Juggy will be a nusaince nothing more.

They all fight till the end of time! nuts

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t49/SymmetricChaos/picard.jpg

No. It's between Juggs and DD. Hulk dies hard against either of them.

NO!!!!

I was hoping I'd be able to use that picture first

Considering Doomsday is far superiour to either of these fools...

He bfr's Juggs, and kills Hulk.

DD ftw,

Good fight though.

Originally posted by charlemagne9746
Well, Doomsday starts off far stronger than any of these guys. Doomsday already suffered a beat down death by Supes' in DOS...so, Juggernaut isn't winning that way. If Hulk is taken out first...then it's just a stalemate between Doomsday and Juggernaut...with Juggs taking a shitload of punishment....but staying conscious.

1st thing we dont know if doomsday is stronger than either of the combatants. Do you have a lifting feat by doomsday. Second the threadster said no evolving.SOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooo juggernaut wins. 10/10

Originally posted by carver9
1st thing we dont know if doomsday is stronger than either of the combatants. Do you have a lifting feat by doomsday. Second the threadster said no evolving.SOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooo juggernaut wins. 10/10 Do you have a lifting feat from Juggernaut?

Also, you really think you would like Doomsday... considering your Superman hate...

Also, Doomsday doesn't have to evolve, and even DOS Doomsday is better than both of these guys.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
No they won't. Hulk's rage increases his strength, speed, durability and HF.

His endurace is also basicly unlimited.

Hits from Juggy will be a nusaince nothing more.

Well his hits in the past seemed to ko hulk. I dont know where you all get juggernaut strength being low because it has been stated that juggernaut has unlimited strength. Read the comic where he is searching for the gem and it clearly says that he has unlimited strength.

This also says the same thing.
http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/characters/showquestion.asp?fldAuto=596

This also says the same thing.
http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/spotlight/showquestion.asp?faq=10&fldAuto=96

This also says the same thing
http://www.marvel.com/universe/Juggernaut_(Cain_Marko)

This also
http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/j/juggernaut.htm

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
Do you have a lifting feat from Juggernaut?

Also, you really think you would like Doomsday... considering your Superman hate...

Also, Doomsday doesn't have to evolve, and even DOS Doomsday is better than both of these guys.

Who said that I hate superman, I just dont say he can do things that he cant do. That dont mean that I hate him. I do collect his comics. Doomsday have no way of beating juggernaut and would have a hard time against the hulk (a very hard time).

How could you say doomsday would lose considering your love for superman.

Cain Marko, or DD win.

Originally posted by carver9
Well his hits in the past seemed to ko hulk. I dont know where you all get juggernaut strength being low because it has been stated that juggernaut has unlimited strength. Read the comic where he is searching for the gem and it clearly says that he has unlimited strength.

This also says the same thing.
http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/characters/showquestion.asp?fldAuto=596

This also says the same thing.
http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/spotlight/showquestion.asp?faq=10&fldAuto=96

This also says the same thing
http://www.marvel.com/universe/Juggernaut_(Cain_Marko)

This also
http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/j/juggernaut.htm

I never said Juggy wasn't strong.

However as a fight goes on more than Hulk's strength goes up. His HF and durability amp as well.

Just look at people like Wolvie, a good HF can negate extremely powerful blows. Add very good duability on top of that and blunt force impacts become a nussiance not a threat in most situations.

Could you post some examples of Juggy KOing Hulk? Not that I don't believe you I'd just like to see the circumstances.

Originally posted by carver9
Who said that I hate superman, I just dont say he can do things that he cant do. That dont mean that I hate him. I do collect his comics. Doomsday have no way of beating juggernaut and would have a hard time against the hulk (a very hard time).

How could you say doomsday would lose considering your love for superman. I don't even really like Superman, I'm just not going to let him get underated completely by a bunch of idiots. Wait a minute, I never said Doomy would lose...

Also, what does Superman have to do with this? Because Doomsday would beat Superman pretty bad too (and has, or do you not read his comic appearances?).

A hard time against Hulk? Ignorance, or stupidity, but not truthful in the slightest.
Hulk would seriously get smashed against Doomsday. If Superman with a Motherbox gets his arm broken against Doomsday with a swift move, then Hulk gets his face broken with a swift move.

Juggernaut gets thrown into orbit.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I never said Juggy wasn't strong.

However as a fight goes on more than Hulk's strength goes up. His HF and durability amp as well.

Just look at people like Wolvie, a good HF can negate extremely powerful blows. Add very good duability on top of that and blunt force impacts become a nussiance not a threat in most situations.

Could you post some examples of Juggy KOing Hulk? Not that I don't believe you I'd just like to see the circumstances.

Sorry about that. Your post makes since and everything that you said is the truth. I will find the scans of juggernaut knocking the hell out of hulk.

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
I don't even really like Superman, I'm just not going to let him get underated completely by a bunch of idiots. Wait a minute, I never said Doomy would lose...

Also, what does Superman have to do with this? Because Doomsday would beat Superman pretty bad too (and has, or do you not read his comic appearances?).

A hard time against Hulk? Ignorance, or stupidity, but not truthful in the slightest.
Hulk would seriously get smashed against Doomsday. If Superman with a Motherbox gets his arm broken against Doomsday with a swift move, then Hulk gets his face broken with a swift move.

Juggernaut gets thrown into orbit.

I never said that you said doomsday would loose, what Im saying is how could you vote AGAINST doomsday when he is part of your favorite character.

What could happen in this fight is juggernaut puts his forcefield up and doomsday try to punch him but juggernaut dont move and bust out laughing and grabs doomsday arm and throw him to the sun. Does that sound easy to you.

Or juggernaut just wants to test there strength and put his forcefield up and lay on the ground and let them punch on him all day while hes playing checkers.

Or juggernaut just grab doomsday by the head and twist it all the way around until he hears something snap.

Is that better.

Originally posted by carver9
I never said that you said doomsday would loose, what Im saying is how could you vote AGAINST doomsday when he is part of your favorite character. Superman isn't even in my top ten, doubtful he's in my top twenty.
It's called actually reading comics, rather than bios though, that makes the appearance of him being my fav.
If I'm a fanboy for knowing what I'm defending, then you're not a fanboy of any character...

Originally posted by carver9
What could happen in this fight is juggernaut puts his forcefield up and doomsday try to punch him but juggernaut dont move and bust out laughing and grabs doomsday arm and throw him to the sun. Does that sound easy to you. Cosidering Juggs has only used his shield like 5 times in comics... yes, good job.
Also, Juggernaut has never thrown anyone that far, especially anyone that mattered.

Plus, if he grabs Doomsday, then he'll be vunerable to a good tossing, and guess what? BFR.

Originally posted by carver9
Or juggernaut just wants to test there strength and put his forcefield up and lay on the ground and let them punch on him all day while hes playing checkers. Doomsday has been shown to evolve past almost anything, and if he gets punched all day long, then well...
Also, Doomy could just BFR him, since, he could just punch the ground out.

Originally posted by carver9
Or juggernaut just grab doomsday by the head and twist it all the way around until he hears something snap. He couldn;t break Smart Hulk's neck... what makes you think he can break someone's neck, who happens to be above Supes?

Originally posted by carver9
Is that better. No, because nothing you said, can even happen.

Isnt classic juggernaut signicantly weaker than he is now?

I think this question comes down to How strong is Doomsday.

anyone who believes Hulk can beat superman will believe that Hulk wins this fight. So i imagine many people will be saying hulk just because.

Im not sure who wins though, IT would take an enourmous amount of energy focused in one blow to sudbue or kill the Hulk. Nether Doomsday nor juggernaut have an ability like that, their powers are brute strength. Doomsday was killed in a massive beat down by brute strength, So i think that illustrates his lack of staying power. However, he is the more intelligent and tactical of the bunch, unless we are talking about smart Hulk and if so, He dies very very soon.

I have to keeo coming back to Hulks rage though, The only thing that i see Stoping the Hulk is doomsday's abilities. He can leap nearl as far and long as the hulk, so that kind of Hinders Hulk from getting a breather, and i kind of see dd in some way letting Juggs and hulk wear each other out. However, Juggs has been known to set pride aside and utilize team work. I see it going either way, but personaly i think it comes down to hulks Rage or juggernauts durability

Originally posted by ragesRemorse
Isnt classic juggernaut signicantly weaker than he is now?

Current is powerless.

Originally posted by ragesRemorse
I think this question comes down to How strong is Doomsday.

He broke Superman's arm and was fighting off teams of heroes. The strain of taking him out killed Superman.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Current is powerless.


He broke Superman's arm and was fighting off teams of heroes. The strain of taking him out killed Superman.

how did juggs lose his power? I havent read an x-men comci since the fatal attractions...bloodties series

Superman died twice?

I could have sworn that superman beat down domsday in day of doom...think that was the series

Not saying that rogue is anywhere near the strength of these people but juggernaut has been taking devastating punches his entire career not feeling them.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=5946036
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=5946048

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/jj3.gif

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/WWandJuggy2.jpg

Juggernaut koing the stranger with one punch
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=6230569

Originally posted by carver9
Not saying that rogue is anywhere near the strength of these people but juggernaut has been taking devastating punches his entire career not feeling them.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=5946036
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=5946048

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/jj3.gif

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/WWandJuggy2.jpg

Juggernaut koing the stranger with one punch
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=6230569

Juggernaut looks like a pansey in that costume when he's punching the stranger lol Thats some silly design too, right in the nose LOL

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Current is powerless.
He has the gem back, but I don't know if everything is fully kicked in yet.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
He broke Superman's arm. That was H/P DD, no?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Current is powerless.



He broke Superman's arm and was fighting off teams of heroes. The strain of taking him out killed Superman.

Hulk has fought teams and doomsday struggled to even put maxima down. She was owning doomsday until superman intervien and she got caught in a explosion.

I think jugs takes this.

Originally posted by carver9
Juggernaut koing the stranger with one punch
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=6230569 Meh,

Iceman punked the Stranger.... So I'm not too impressed.

Originally posted by Galan007
That was H/P DD, no?

I think it was DOS. Not sure though.

Originally posted by ragesRemorse
Doomsday was killed in a massive beat down by brute strength, So i think that illustrates his lack of staying power. In DOS? Or Infinite Crisis 7?
Because both instances, were more than Hulk is dishing out...

Not to mention that DOS makes it seem like Doomsday actually had a fair fight against Superman... but meh.

Also, Doomsday has a little thing called "Superspeed" mixed with his strength.

Originally posted by Galan007
That was H/P DD, no? HP.
Superman had the Motherbox.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I think it was DOS. Not sure though. I don't remember DD breaking Superman's arm in DOS.

I know for sure he broke it in H/P though.

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
HP.
Superman had the Motherbox. Thought so.

How exactly is Cain going to be bfr'd? As shown in his first appearance Cain can walk on air, BFRing him will be ext to impossible.

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
In DOS? Or Infinite Crisis 7?
Because both instances, were more than Hulk is dishing out...

Not to mention that DOS makes it seem like Doomsday actually had a fair fight against Superman... but meh.

Also, Doomsday has a little thing called "Superspeed" mixed with his strength.

All im saying is that it would take more than brute strength to drop the hulk, Unless there was enough force delivered in blow knocking the Hulk out and hindering his rage from Growing. I just dont see Juggernaut or doomsday having enough power to deliver a single KO blow

Originally posted by His Airness
How exactly is Cain going to be bfr'd? As shown in his first appearance Cain can walk on air, BFRing him will be ext to impossible. Throwing him halfway across the planet?

He may be able to walk on air, but that's not stopping the throw, or allowing him to come back.

Originally posted by ragesRemorse
All im saying is that it would take more than brute strength to drop the hulk, Unless there was enough force delivered in blow knocking the Hulk out and hindering his rage from Growing. I just dont see Juggernaut or doomsday having enough power to deliver a single KO blow Hulk has been dropped before by numerous blows...

If someone through Cain into space, would he not just continue onwards forever? Unstoppable momentum and all that...

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
Throwing him halfway across the planet?

He may be able to walk on air, but that's not stopping the throw, or allowing him to come back.

As soon as he's thrown in the air he activates his shield allowing himself to walk on nothingness. Easy defence for being BFR'd. I could however see Hulk being removed from this fight.

Originally posted by His Airness
As soon as he's thrown in the air he activates his shield allowing himself to walk on nothingness. Easy defence for being BFR'd. I could however see Hulk being removed from this fight. And... he's done this... how many times?

In fact, he had his shield up, when Thor BFR'd him, with his hammer.

here is the results for this very same fight from another site

http://www.electricferret.com/fights/bigboys.htm

quite funny and nuff said

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
Hulk has been dropped before by numerous blows...

I assume however we are talking about each character in their prime however.

and dropped yes, but not to the point where he reforms back into banner

Originally posted by ragesRemorse
I assume however we are talking about each character in their prime however.

and dropped yes, but not to the point where he reforms back into banner

Titannus managed that actually.

Its goes like this
jugs
doomsday
hulk

They have no way of beating juggernaut. They dont have magic so nothing that they would do would put jugs down.

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
And... he's done this... how many times?

In fact, he had his shield up, when Thor BFR'd him, with his hammer.

Not many times, but then again, I could ask you how many times DD has BFR'd someone.

Thor didn't throw him. Thor actually opened a portal to alternate dimension and forced Cain though, something Cain didn't have the power set to counter. However this is something Cain can easily prevent.

Originally posted by His Airness
Not many times, but then again, I could ask you how many times DD has BFR'd someone.

Thor didn't throw him. Thor actually opened a portal to alternate dimension and forced Cain though, something Cain didn't have the power set to counter. However this is something Cain can easily prevent. A couple times actually...

Thor put his hand in his strap, and sent Juggy away...

Originally posted by ragesRemorse
I assume however we are talking about each character in their prime however.

and dropped yes, but not to the point where he reforms back into banner

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/incrediblehulk118187ji.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/incrediblehulk118195ly.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/incrediblehulk118200el.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/incrediblehulk118211kg.jpg

ermm

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
A couple times actually...

Thor put his hand in his strap, and sent Juggy away...

About the same amount of times Cain's used his shield.

But he didn't throw him, he used dimensional transportation.....

Originally posted by His Airness
About the same amount of times Cain's used his shield.

But he didn't throw him, he used dimensional transportation..... Except, Juggernaut has had way more comics involving him, and you said Juggernaut would use his shield after being thrown, which, to my knowledge, he has never done.

http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/9711/thor199142918dc2.th.jpg
Why didn't Juggernaut even try to put up his shield, like you said?

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
Except, Juggernaut has had way more comics involving him, and you said Juggernaut would use his shield after being thrown, which, to my knowledge, he has never done.

http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/9711/thor199142918dc2.th.jpg
Why didn't Juggernaut even try to put up his shield, like you said?

Unbreakable thong . . .

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
Except, Juggernaut has had way more comics involving him, and you said Juggernaut would use his shield after being thrown, which, to my knowledge, he has never done.

http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/9711/thor199142918dc2.th.jpg
Why didn't Juggernaut even try to put up his shield, like you said?

When Jean Grey tried to BFR him with TK, he simply utilized his shield and stopped, and started walking in mid air. I can see him doing the same here.

Oh, I thought you were talking about their first fight.

This is clearly CIS, why Cain wouldn't let go of the strap is beyond me. ermm

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
Except, Juggernaut has had way more comics involving him, and you said Juggernaut would use his shield after being thrown, which, to my knowledge, he has never done.

http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/9711/thor199142918dc2.th.jpg
Why didn't Juggernaut even try to put up his shield, like you said?

Look at the scan yourself and you should be able to answer the question. Dont you see the hammer on his wrist. How would he be able to do that with something strapped to him pulling him to another location. Also wasnt his powers coming back to him after thor used magic to get rid of it.

Originally posted by His Airness
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/incrediblehulk118187ji.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/incrediblehulk118195ly.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/incrediblehulk118200el.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/incrediblehulk118211kg.jpg

ermm Yeah, Black Bolt's done it too.

Originally posted by His Airness
When Jean Grey tried to BFR him with TK, he simply utilized his shield and stopped, and started walking in mid air. I can see him doing the same here.

Oh, I thought you were talking about their first fight.

This is clearly CIS, why Cain wouldn't let go of the strap is beyond me. ermm Jean Grey could barely lift Juggernaut... and she did only try that, lift him, not throw him hundreds of miles an hour.
There is a difference, believe it or not.

It doesn't matter if he let go or not, but the main point is, that Juggernaut didn't stop, or even try to stop.

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
Jean Grey could barely lift Juggernaut... and she did only try that, lift him, not throw him hundreds of miles an hour.
There is a difference, believe it or not.

It doesn't matter if he let go or not, but the main point is, that Juggernaut didn't stop, or even try to stop.

I honestly don't see whats preventing Cain from simply stopping himself from being propelled in the air. BTW, at best being thrown at a few hundred miles an hour would be only be enough to send him across the city.

As I said, CIS. Add that to the laundry list of poor writing that was done in that comic.

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
Jean Grey could barely lift Juggernaut... and she did only try that, lift him, not throw him hundreds of miles an hour.
There is a difference, believe it or not.

It doesn't matter if he let go or not, but the main point is, that Juggernaut didn't stop, or even try to stop.

So now jean grey can lift nothing but 800 lbs with her tk. HMMM. well we should count that then, since i have seen her clear an entire field that was field with at least 30 tons of snow with her mind.

Good thing CIS is perfectly applicable in forum fights... good thing it still applies here... good thing Juggernaut's still a dumbass...

Originally posted by His Airness
I honestly don't see whats preventing Cain from simply stopping himself from being propelled in the air. BTW, at best being thrown at a few hundred miles an hour would be only be enough to send him across the city.

As I said, CIS. Add that to the laundry list of poor writing that was done in that comic. I used the hundreds of miles an hour, as a comparison, to Jean not being able to lift him, and ruling out the throwing...
Doomsday can throw him harder than that though...Originally posted by carver9
So now jean grey can lift nothing but 800 lbs with her tk. HMMM. well we should count that then, since i have seen her clear an entire field that was field with at least 30 tons of snow with her mind. She said herself that she could barely lift him...
God!

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
I used the hundreds of miles an hour, as a comparison, to Jean not being able to lift him, and ruling out the throwing...
Doomsday can throw him harder than that though... She said herself that she could barely lift him...
God!

To bad jean has lifted 1000s of pounds more than he weigh. She has been doing that her entire career.

Doomsday has no way of beating juggernaut and doomsday isnt one of the most durable guys around either. I could have sworn he was defeated by getting his bones crushed.

Can you do me a favor and show me the scans of maxima beating the hell out of doomsday. Juggernaut>maxima

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I think it was DOS. Not sure though.

no, that was hunter/prey. i thought the thread was only the DOS doomsday?

Originally posted by carver9
To bad jean has lifted 1000s of pounds more than he weigh. She has been doing that her entire career.

Doomsday has no way of beating juggernaut and doomsday isnt one of the most durable guys around either. I could have sworn he was defeated by getting his bones crushed.

Can you do me a favor and show me the scans of maxima beating the hell out of doomsday. Juggernaut>maxima Too bad you didn't read the comic, so I fail to see why you're still going on about this...

I could have sworn that he didn't have a fair fight against Superman, and that, Juggernaut fails to apply to this situation.

If it will shut you up, I'll show you scans of the weakest Doomsday getting knocked around, but not hurt, or damaged, because it never happened.
http://img373.imageshack.us/img373/9270/deathofsupermantpb087ea7.th.jpg http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/2109/deathofsupermantpb090qt4.th.jpg http://img373.imageshack.us/img373/4153/deathofsupermantpb091qm7.th.jpg http://img485.imageshack.us/img485/9692/deathofsupermantpb092th0.th.jpg
http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/7104/deathofsupermantpb093lm7.th.jpg http://img485.imageshack.us/img485/7786/deathofsupermantpb094hs5.th.jpg

Now, can you show me scans of Juggernaut getting hurt by fire, or KO'ed by a forcefield. Or Hulk getting KO'ed by Spider-Man hitting him with a car, since you only accept low showings?

for arguement sake, lets just say DD, hulk, and jugs are equally as strong to one another. but the big advantage doomsday has is the super speed and reflexes that come with his blows. that's extra momentum to his punches. couldn't DD just dodge and punch his way through?

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
Too bad you didn't read the comic, so I fail to see why you're still going on about this...

I could have sworn that he didn't have a fair fight against Superman, and that, Juggernaut fails to apply to this situation.

If it will shut you up, I'll show you scans of the weakest Doomsday getting knocked around, but not hurt, or damaged, because it never happened.
http://img373.imageshack.us/img373/9270/deathofsupermantpb087ea7.th.jpg http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/2109/deathofsupermantpb090qt4.th.jpg http://img373.imageshack.us/img373/4153/deathofsupermantpb091qm7.th.jpg http://img485.imageshack.us/img485/9692/deathofsupermantpb092th0.th.jpg
http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/7104/deathofsupermantpb093lm7.th.jpg http://img485.imageshack.us/img485/7786/deathofsupermantpb094hs5.th.jpg

Now, can you show me scans of Juggernaut getting hurt by fire, or KO'ed by a forcefield. Or Hulk getting KO'ed by Spider-Man hitting him with a car, since you only accept low showings?

Can you please show me the scan of juggernaut getting hurt by fire because I never heard or seen that happened. I know the he went into a range when spiderman ran that truck into him and it exploded. When has juggernaut ever been koed. omg. Show me this please.

Now i know about spiderman knocking hulk out. Not downing that. With the scans that you showed (by the way thanks, somebody stole my book and I havent seen the actual comic in a while) I just wanted to let you know that people are able to fight him, it was numerous of people in that comic that was giving him a good fight. Hulk can give him a fight and juggernaut (i think) could eventually end up beating him or it would end in a stalemate.

Originally posted by TheGame17
for arguement sake, lets just say DD, hulk, and jugs are equally as strong to one another. but the big advantage doomsday has is the super speed and reflexes that come with his blows. that's extra momentum to his punches. couldn't DD just dodge and punch his way through?

He never showed that he is able to dodge anything. I do agree with you about them being equal. They are almost equal except each has a edge on them with the others.

Doomsday (could be) is faster
Juggernaut is more durable
Hulk (my opinion) is stronger

If doomsday had juggernauts durability he would have NEVER lost to superman. Superman himself, when he encountered the hulk, stated that hulk was stronger than him. This was when hulk threw superman out of space.

i read the DOS comic and superman noticed that Doomsday was getting stronger the more they fought.

Originally posted by carver9
Can you please show me the scan of juggernaut getting hurt by fire because I never heard or seen that happened. I know the he went into a range when spiderman ran that truck into him and it exploded. When has juggernaut ever been koed. omg. Show me this please.

Now i know about spiderman knocking hulk out. Not downing that. With the scans that you showed (by the way thanks, somebody stole my book and I havent seen the actual comic in a while) I just wanted to let you know that people are able to fight him, it was numerous of people in that comic that was giving him a good fight. Hulk can give him a fight and juggernaut (i think) could eventually end up beating him or it would end in a stalemate. Hey, you asked me for scans, in which you knew the exact instances, so now I'm asking you for scans in which I know the exact instances.
Nightcrawler threw a torch at him, and it hurt him.
Juggernaut ran through an electrical force field, and dropped a second later.
And, since you only seem to acknowledge low showings...

Many people are able to fight Doomsday, but it's when Doomsday fights back, that people are f*cked badly.

Hulk can't give him a fight, not even close.
Juggernaut can only give him a fight because of his invunerability.

The only way Doomsday can beat Juggs, is a BFR, but he can beat Hulk without it, and handily.

Originally posted by carver9
He never showed that he is able to dodge anything. I do agree with you about them being equal. They are almost equal except each has a edge on them with the others.

Doomsday (could be) is faster
Juggernaut is more durable
Hulk (my opinion) is stronger

If doomsday had juggernauts durability he would have NEVER lost to superman. Superman himself, when he encountered the hulk, stated that hulk was stronger than him. This was when hulk threw superman out of space. Doomsday blocked a couple speedblitzes by Superman, by way of offense.
He is faster than both of them by far. It's almost stupid, no wait, it's retarded to say they are close in speed.

Doomsday only lost once to Superman in a fair fight (Doomsday Rex).
In DOS, Doomsday had fought waves of heroes, and other people as he fought Superman. Plus, Superman is also superiour to Hulk.

A non-canon comic, that happened, and in a non-canon comic, Superman punked Hulk, in mere h2h.

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
Doomsday blocked a couple speedblitzes by Superman, by way of offense.
He is faster than both of them by far. It's almost stupid, no wait, it's retarded to say they are close in speed.

Doomsday only lost once to Superman in a fair fight (Doomsday Rex).
In DOS, Doomsday had fought waves of heroes, and other people as he fought Superman. Plus, Superman is also superiour to Hulk.

A non-canon comic, that happened, and in a non-canon comic, Superman punked Hulk, in mere h2h.

I agree with you that he is faster than both but when I see him fight, everyone that he fights land licks when they swing. Doomsday arms moves fast but I have never seen him run,etc... in super speed but his punches does come fast.

And how was superman and doomsday moving at super speed when every person that was in the city of metropolis seen every punch, even recorded it, to the last punch. They were not moving at any kind of impressive speed.

I still think that hulk will give doomsday a fight of his life. He might lose due to the poison that is on the claws of doomsday that would eventually wear him down but hulk will fight to the end. Hulk is very underestimated on these forums and I hate the character but I still know what he is capable of.

Originally posted by carver9
I agree with you that he is faster than both but when I see him fight, everyone that he fights land licks when they swing. Doomsday arms moves fast but I have never seen him run,etc... in super speed but his punches does come fast.

And how was superman and doomsday moving at super speed when every person that was in the city of metropolis seen every punch, even recorded it, to the last punch. They were not moving at any kind of impressive speed.

I still think that hulk will give doomsday a fight of his life. He might lose due to the poison that is on the claws of doomsday that would eventually wear him down but hulk will fight to the end. Hulk is very underestimated on these forums and I hate the character but I still know what he is capable of. And?
He caught Superman, when Superman was flying away...

I never mentioned DOS as a measure to Doomsday's speed...

Hulk is underated? I think Hulk giving Doomsday the fight of his life, says something...
Hulk would lose, because Doomsday would smash him.

We have all, also saw how Hulk does against people with claws, and very fast arms...

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
And?
He caught Superman, when Superman was flying away...

I never mentioned DOS as a measure to Doomsday's speed...

Hulk is underated? I think Hulk giving Doomsday the fight of his life, says something...
Hulk would lose, because Doomsday would smash him.

We have all, also saw how Hulk does against people with claws, and very fast arms...

true but he still gives them a fight. Doomsday is the same character that hulk fights on a daily basis, nothing but brute strength. This would be a fight that hulk would enjoy (even though he would lose). This would be a good fight. Yeah hulk fights people with claws (guess your referring to wolverine) but wolverine is also extremely agile (which doomsday isnt) and have mastered avoiding blows (which doomsday gets hit on a regular basis, even though he can take it.).

Im not saying that hulk could win this. He has no way to beat either of these two but I do know that he MIGHT could get strong enough to rip doomsday in half since pieces of doomsday fly off of him on a regular basis. Hulk strength has no limit. Doomsday isnt all that durable since imperex did burn him down to the skeleton but superman entire body was still in contact when imperex tried to do the same thing to him.

Doomsday died by getting his bones crushed. Juggernaut got burned to the bone and was still walking. Same thing happened to hulk but he healed in like 5 panels.

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
Except, Juggernaut has had way more comics involving him, and you said Juggernaut would use his shield after being thrown, which, to my knowledge, he has never done.

http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/9711/thor199142918dc2.th.jpg
Why didn't Juggernaut even try to put up his shield, like you said?

Because it was in a Thor comic. Thor had to win some how. Not to mention that the writer didn't research Juggernaut's character well enough. More than once that writer labeled Juggernaut a mutant.

But besides that I don't really know what his shield is capable of. But I wouldn't claim it can stop him in the air.

Juggernaut has power to move mountains. He was pinned underneath Trillions of tons of rock. Being pinned and being able to move/climb your way out is much, much harder than benching that same amount of weight.

People said Hulks durability + healing factor would keep him in the fight. Juggernaut has a healing factor that rivals the Hulks. In fact Juggernaut can stand and fight with no organs at all. The same cannot be said for the Hulk.

I would also like to see this moment that Juggernaut was "hurt" by fire.

it never happened. Juggernaut has never been hurt by fire.

All it takes is for Doomsday to die one time and evolve into a being with telepathy to crush juggs. he doesn't need anything special to beat the hulk. He gets stronger as he fights. Same as the Hulk. Being faster and having bones sharp enough to cut Superman and invuln matching superman's or even superior, says even the DOS doomsday is too much for hulk. giving him one death just gives him the victory.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
All it takes is for Doomsday to die one time and evolve into a being with telepathy to crush juggs. he doesn't need anything special to beat the hulk. He gets stronger as he fights. Same as the Hulk. Being faster and having bones sharp enough to cut Superman and invuln matching superman's or even superior, says even the DOS doomsday is too much for hulk. giving him one death just gives him the victory.

How is he going to get the majority when he cant take juggernaut out. Can we all say stalemate. Doomsday to my knowledge isnt nothing but pure brute strength. When have he been capable of doing anything telepathic.

Originally posted by carver9
How is he going to get the majority when he cant take juggernaut out. Can we all say stalemate. Doomsday to my knowledge isnt nothing but pure brute strength. When have he been capable of doing anything telepathic.

When he dies, he comes back not being able to be hurt the same way that he died and he also gains the ability to counter his opponent. Much like he did to Darksied's Omega beams. By Giving Doomsday one Death, the thread OP made it the more advanced version of Doomsday and NOT the DOS one. Becuz DOS doomsday only died once. Never to be seen again.

stalemate juggernaut and doomsday.

Originally posted by carver9
true but he still gives them a fight. Doomsday is the same character that hulk fights on a daily basis, nothing but brute strength. This would be a fight that hulk would enjoy (even though he would lose). This would be a good fight. Yeah hulk fights people with claws (guess your referring to wolverine) but wolverine is also extremely agile (which doomsday isnt) and have mastered avoiding blows (which doomsday gets hit on a regular basis, even though he can take it.). Hulk doesn't fight people like Doomsday...
Plus, Doomsday has heat vision, shootable claws, claws, superspeed, etc.
Hulk would not enjoy this fight in the slightest, and that's a f*cking stupid comment.

The thing between Doomsday and Wolverine is, that Doomsday doesn't have to avoid shit. Why would he need to avoid, or be agile, when he's powerful enough to not be hurt?
Think about it for a second, before you say it.

Originally posted by carver9
Im not saying that hulk could win this. He has no way to beat either of these two but I do know that he MIGHT could get strong enough to rip doomsday in half since pieces of doomsday fly off of him on a regular basis. Hulk strength has no limit. Doomsday isnt all that durable since imperex did burn him down to the skeleton but superman entire body was still in contact when imperex tried to do the same thing to him.
Wow... I don't even know why I'm debating you...
Hulk ripping Doomsday in half?
Oh ya, this comment coming from the same person who said Glads would break Supes neck...

Also, Superman was teleported away, before he could get destroyed.

Originally posted by carver9
Doomsday died by getting his bones crushed. Juggernaut got burned to the bone and was still walking. Same thing happened to hulk but he healed in like 5 panels. Bringing up his bones getting crushed, or Juggernaut getting burned to the bone is irrelevent.
Doomsday got his bones crushed at his weakest form, which you seem to be ignoring on purpose, or just plain ignorance.

Now, I really fail to see why you brought this up, because I never said Doomsday would be crushing Juggernaut, or even said something close to that.
Plus, we all know Juggernaut is more durible, and it was stupid to really bring this up, since it won't help him get thrown away from the battlefield.

Hulk healed from a muscular state... not even remotely close.
Why don't you talk about the time Abom smashed Hulk's face, and he didn't heal for the rest of the comic?

Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
Because it was in a Thor comic. Thor had to win some how.

I would also like to see this moment that Juggernaut was "hurt" by fire.
So, everything anyone has ever done in their own comic, is not acceptable, is what you're saying?

Ask carver. I just brought it up, and told him to show me them, in the same manor he did as Doomsday.

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
So, everything anyone has ever done in their own comic, is not acceptable, is what you're saying? \

Where did I say it wasn't acceptable? It's PIS, you take a villain that is somewhat well known for his power and then have the main character beat him in some weird way. That is what always happens to Juggernaut.

That Thor comic had several things wrong with it. One, Juggernaut was considered a mutant, two his durability is NOT derived from his shield.

Thor had to result to BFR 2 times. The last fight Juggernaut was about to kill him, then two exemplars remove him before he does.

Hulk has never defeated Juggernaut. Their first encounter Hulk throws Juggs about 20 yards and started walking away. The Juggernaut is KO'd by Prof. X and Jean Grey. What the Hell is a cripple and a psycho telepath doing in the middle of a desert?!?

Then Juggernaut is KO'd by a psychic backlash wave from Red Skulls machine when Hulk breaks the mind control.

Finally in the War Hulk fight, a total of 3, THREE punches were exchanged and then Hulk jumps away, leaving Juggernaut completely unscathed.