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Can the a combined Celestial army defeat HOTU Thanos?


Celestials Army- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celestials

No. Thanos with the HOTU casually one - shotted Celestials and absorbed the LT.

That was one Celestial right? Who knows how many Celestials they are in the Multi-Verse

Thanos w/HOTU absorbed the entire multiverse

He already beat every single one of them. Casually.

Doesn't matter if there are millions of Celestials. Thanos would win.

With a mere wave of the hand he tore one in half.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Thanos w/HOTU absorbed the entire multiverse

Was one universe, universe 4321, as stated by Marvel.

Not the multiverse.

Originally posted by Board Walker
Was one universe, universe 4321, as stated by Marvel.

Not the multiverse.
I was thinking the same thing.

you shouldnt believe what marvel states sometimes they make hand books every year and then change them every next year its annoying. Some speculate that thanos was undefeatable in that one universe so maybe the celestials cant defeat him in that universe even all the ones in the multiverse.

He defeated the LT but the LT has been retconned to have M-bodys before he had no m-bodys

Originally posted by Mider999
you shouldnt believe what marvel states sometimes they make hand books every year and then change them every next year its annoying. Some speculate that thanos was undefeatable in that one universe so maybe the celestials cant defeat him in that universe even all the ones in the multiverse.

He defeated the LT but the LT has been retconned to have M-bodys before he had no m-bodys

I like Golem's thread. I made Thanos vs Celestials. Its always fun

Not true because the Lt is the same throughout the multiverse so your argument falls apart. Lt in that universe is the same as Lt in another universe and he lost to thanos. If the celestials can beat thanos in another universe then they to can beat LT.

yeah mordum but they changed the LT now he's not only a single entity but is an M-body so people can say this oh thanos didnt fight the REAL LT argument when before it was clearly stated he was a single entity he needed no counterparts he was special that way, he also only governed one multiverse i dont know why they needed a omniverse marvel is losing it first they get a megaverse then an ultraverse or the other way around now they want an omniverse which is impossible anyway, that would mean they had controll over DC, IMAGE, DARK HORSE heck even the real universe since OMNIverse requires ALL universes to be in it.

All universes with in that company, why is that so hard to understand? They can still call it an omniverse if it contains every universe with in Marvel. They can call it a god damn "mega-superomniverse" but it wont change the fact they only have control over the ones they own.

Originally posted by Board Walker
Was one universe, universe 4321, as stated by Marvel.

Not the multiverse.

That's concerning Akhenaten's origin in specific,

HE came from Reality 4321, not the Arc itself.


In issue #1 there are cut scenes of AK's beginnings taking place and how he ended up working for the Celestial Order, that story takes place in another time, another place, hence Reality 4321.

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/akhenaton.htm




This is further proven in the actual HOTI and Celestial Order Bios they provide,

now the entire story revolves around the THOTI,

why wasn't it designated to Reality 4321?

In fact,

4321 is not even mentioned.

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix3/celestialorderthanos.htm#Heart


This is what you will find concerning THOTI, in this Bio:


"Thanos foiled efforts to stop his plan by Eternity, the Living Tribunal etc ...

but he also Obliterated the Multiverse in the process"

"Thanos did so, using the Heart's power to Re-Create the Multiverse

bereft of the flaw that would have destroyed it"




Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
I was thinking the same thing.

This is the tale of the Proof:


"Thanos claimed THOTI ... Eternity opposed ... Thanos destroyed All of Reality"

http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/3393/etbap1.th.jpg
(excerpt from the Official Marvel Handbook 2006 Eterntiy - Bio)


Also, notice the reference made to Genis and Entropy destroying the same Eternity.

Genis and Entropy destroyed the Multiverse, so ... shrug


Unless you believe Genis and Entropy destroyed Eternity 4321.

Originally posted by Board Walker
Was one universe, universe 4321, as stated by Marvel.

4321?

Actually the story involved the 616 Reality for the most part, until the end when Thanos went on an absorption frenzy and took out the Multiverse.




If that isn't 616, why is Thanos reminiscing about his time with the Cosmic Cube?

If that isn't 616, why is Thanos reminiscing about his time with the Infinity Gauntlet?

If that isn't 616, why is Thanos reminiscing about his time when he died and became Death's servant?


http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/6913/t2cm7.th.jpg

http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/7412/tzv7.th.jpg


And don't tell me that perhaps an "Alternate Version" coincidentally happened to have the EXACT same experiences as Thanos 616.

As you know, that's why they are termed "Alternate" because they are different,

And had this "Reality 4321, Diverged from 616,

some indication On Panel or in the Bios would have let that be known,

like the Watcher does at the beginning of every Comic presenting a Diverged Reality.

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/akhenaton.htm

this link mentiones the Akhenatons powers a equal to that of the beyonder which one pre ore post???

Originally posted by Utrigita
http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/akhenaton.htm

this link mentiones the Akhenatons powers a equal to that of the beyonder which one pre ore post???

wavey

Celestials are smart.

Originally posted by Utrigita
http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/akhenaton.htm

this link mentiones the Akhenatons powers a equal to that of the beyonder which one pre ore post???

I noticed, interesting.

I would say current Beyonder.



What he did is quite possible with Post-retcon Beyonder.

Affecting multiple Realities by inter-dimesional capabilities,

Time control, limited Universal control, bend Space & Time.



Remember Beyonder was retconed Twice.

First he was made a Cube Being (pocket universe Warper) but weaker than a Celestial.

Then he was given some sort of essentiality to the Multiverse, with the power to collapse a Universe, with the power to erase the Concept of Death from the Universe.

Originally posted by Mr Master
That's concerning Akhenaten's origin in specific,

HE came from Reality 4321, not the Arc itself.


In issue #1 there are cut scenes of AK's beginnings taking place and how he ended up working for the Celestial Order, that story takes place in another time, another place, hence Reality 4321.

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/akhenaton.htm




This is further proven in the actual HOTI and Celestial Order Bios they provide,

now the entire story revolves around the THOTI,

why wasn't it designated to Reality 4321?

In fact,

4321 is not even mentioned.

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix3/celestialorderthanos.htm#Heart


This is what you will find concerning THOTI, in this Bio:


"Thanos foiled efforts to stop his plan by Eternity, the Living Tribunal etc ...

but he also Obliterated the Multiverse in the process"

"Thanos did so, using the Heart's power to Re-Create the Multiverse

bereft of the flaw that would have destroyed it"






This is the tale of the Proof:


"Thanos claimed THOTI ... Eternity opposed ... Thanos destroyed All of Reality"

http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/3393/etbap1.th.jpg
(excerpt from the Official Marvel Handbook 2006 Eterntiy - Bio)


Also, notice the reference made to Genis and Entropy destroying the same Eternity.

Genis and Entropy destroyed the Multiverse, so ... shrug


Unless you believe Genis and Entropy destroyed Eternity 4321.

As of right now, according to marvel, it was one universe, universe 4321. Regardless of what happened on panel, it was retconned by marvel; it was never the mutiverse.

And yes I do believe gnis and Entropy destroyed universe 4321, its the only way it fits according to Marvel's retcon.

juanti already pointed it out to you, that the most recent hand book which came out, does include it that it universe 4321 is where the End events took place.

So please do not play ignorant.

On panel is important, but a direct retcon from marvel is above that.

Originally posted by Board Walker
As of right now, according to marvel, it was one universe, universe 4321.
Regardless of what happened on panel, it was retconned by marvel; it was never the mutiverse.

Prove it.

I challenge you to prove Marvel saying that.

Originally posted by Board Walker
And yes I do believe gnis and Entropy destroyed universe 4321,

its the only way it fits according to Marvel's retcon.



Originally posted by Board Walker
juanti already pointed it out to you, that the most recent hand book which came out, does include it that it universe 4321 is where the End events took place.

Actually the only thing Juntai pointed out,

was that he agreed with me in the end of our debate.

You must of left early.


Here ya go:
Originally posted by Juntai
Well I'd say the 4321 thing people keep bringing up is all but ironed out then.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/newreply.php?s=&action=newreply&postid=8908802

Anyone's free to go peep it out.



Originally posted by Board Walker
So please do not play ignorant

Isn't that a bit of an oxymoron though,

coming from you concerning this particular debate?

Originally posted by Board Walker
On panel is important, but a direct retcon from marvel is above that.

Only there's absolutely NO Marvel site of any kind making this claim.

Originally posted by guy222
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Originally posted by Utrigita
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