CW, PLEASE Don't Ruin Smallville!!!

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TrueLoveBelieve
I truly love this show. Well, mainly I love the relationship between Clark and Lana. Without it, there is NO show. Period.
But I have been disappointed with season six, for many reasons.
We all knew at some point they were going to get away from the whole relationship thing, away from being a comic book version of Dawson's Creek, and focus more on the whole Superman thing.
But, IMO, that will do them in. The Superman thing is, and really always has been, secondary in this show's success. And now that they are focusing on it SOOO much, it's losing its luster. And Fast.

The producers have taken out most of the serious scenes between characters. They've gotten away from the character building. They've taken out the connections to todays world like actual music, and relating the characters and certain storylines components to those of the viewer. And instead, they decided it was time to jump in the deep end and go full comic book on us.

This show was bound to end soon anyway, but I was hoping it would go out with a bang, with quaility, and maybe even a big screen movie.
Instead, if they aren't careful, if they get too far away from what made this show big, they'll go out with a fizzle.

Let's hope not.


And oh yeah, damn Krysten is hot. GOD I hope she goes on to make movies after this.

Darkchoco
You spelled Kristin wrong.

~JP~
Originally posted by TrueLoveBelieve


Well, mainly I love the relationship between Clark and Lana. Without it, there is NO show. Period.
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Oh Yay for shippers. slam

seppeh
Uh oh the spelling police is out.

TrueLoveBelieve
I KNOW KNOW!!! SHE JUST GETS ME TOO EXCITED DAMMIT!

AstroFan
Originally posted by TrueLoveBelieve
I truly love this show. Well, mainly I love the relationship between Clark and Lana. Without it, there is NO show. Period.



Without it, maybe I would actually start caring again. no expression

LORDSIDIOUS01
The WB messed up Smallville a long time ago.

Arachnid1
I think Clark is going to learn how to fly in the next season. His Bizzaro flies and I think the only way he can truely match this guy is if he learns to fly.

Also, it wasn't Lex who staged the bomb in the car. You all saw the truck passing by when she was getting in the car. As soon as the truck passed by, it blew up. Lana is still alive. She took a ride on the truck and blew up the car to make it look like she died so that would keep Lionel off he trailer and she could frame Lex for it to send him to jail. It all makes perfect sense. Unfortunately, the person who is dieing this season is Chloe. My second favorite character in the show.

sad

Dammit...

AstroFan
Zod flew, Clark didnt learn then. lol

Darkchoco
Originally posted by Arachnid1
I think Clark is going to learn how to fly in the next season. His Bizzaro flies and I think the only way he can truely match this guy is if he learns to fly.

Also, it wasn't Lex who staged the bomb in the car. You all saw the truck passing by when she was getting in the car. As soon as the truck passed by, it blew up. Lana is still alive. She took a ride on the truck and blew up the car to make it look like she died so that would keep Lionel off he trailer and she could frame Lex for it to send him to jail. It all makes perfect sense. Unfortunately, the person who is dieing this season is Chloe. My second favorite character in the show.

sad

Dammit...

Chloe didnt die, MM can still save her or she just needs to charge back up. Lana didnt go with the truck she went through the bottom of the truck.

Arachnid1
Originally posted by Darkchoco
Chloe didnt die, MM can still save her or she just needs to charge back up. Lana didnt go with the truck she went through the bottom of the truck.

But it said one person died. Its either Lionel, Chloe, or Lana. If its not Lana or Chloe, that leaves Lionel which still sucks since we all found out that he really is a good guy now and does try to help clark.

Darth Vicious
I believe it was said that a "fan favorite" would die. I dont think Lionel or Lana fall in that category. Chloe is gone! sad

Arachnid1
Originally posted by Darth Vicious
I believe it was said that a "fan favorite" would die. I dont think Lionel or Lana fall in that category. Chloe is gone! sad

Lionel is a favorite of mine...

Darkchoco
Originally posted by Darth Vicious
I believe it was said that a "fan favorite" would die. I dont think Lionel or Lana fall in that category. Chloe is gone! sad

Technically, Lois died, But Chloe healed her. That could count. ha ha.

Arachnid1
Originally posted by AstroFan
Zod flew, Clark didnt learn then. lol

Ya, but Bizzaro is his complete opposite. It only makes sense that they match up in everything in their final fight.

Amazon
You must be from bizarro land LOL


I disagree. The whole point of the show is to find out how he became superman. If the show never progresses towards that then there was no point in makeing smallville in the first place.


They don't need to do character building as much in this shows plot anymore. They've done it for 5 years. The characters are all grown up... and still I think they are still developing the characters. Lex has become more evil. Lionel has become more kind. Lana has become more devious. They are delving more into Chloe's emotional past. Clark is coming more into his own, and getting more angry instead of always making excuses for the bad buy.
As for the comic book part of everything... The episode "Justice" was one of the most popular episodes they've ever made. Every episode with any justic leaguer in it gets high ratings. It just shows that people are into the comic book part of it. If they kept with the songs and modern day referrences it would stay a teen soap opera, when it has potential to go much farther than that.
Meh, she's ok. clown

H. S. 6
Originally posted by Darth Vicious
I believe it was said that a "fan favorite" would die. I dont think Lionel or Lana fall in that category. Chloe is gone! sad

Chloe's too much of an important character. Believe me, they haven't killed her off.

Darkchoco
Originally posted by H. S. 6
Chloe's too much of an important character. Believe me, they haven't killed her off.

THANK YOU!!!!!

Chloe and Lana are NOT dead.

TrueLoveBelieve
Originally posted by Amazon
You must be from bizarro land LOL


I disagree. The whole point of the show is to find out how he became superman. If the show never progresses towards that then there was no point in makeing smallville in the first place.


They don't need to do character building as much in this shows plot anymore. They've done it for 5 years. The characters are all grown up... and still I think they are still developing the characters. Lex has become more evil. Lionel has become more kind. Lana has become more devious. They are delving more into Chloe's emotional past. Clark is coming more into his own, and getting more angry instead of always making excuses for the bad buy.
As for the comic book part of everything... The episode "Justice" was one of the most popular episodes they've ever made. Every episode with any justic leaguer in it gets high ratings. It just shows that people are into the comic book part of it. If they kept with the songs and modern day referrences it would stay a teen soap opera, when it has potential to go much farther than that.
Meh, she's ok. clown


We all have our opinions don't we. The ORIGINAL point of the show was to make a show about how he became superman, but as the show evolved, that became secondary. The relationships between the characters, especially Clark and Lana, stole the show...and became the show. Just go back to the first few seasons.....the last 5 minutes of almost every show centered around some discussion between Clark and Lana. The producers, whether they planned it or not, found a special, believable chemistry between those two actors...and THAT is why the show had such a great run of strong ratings...NOT because of superman. To ignore it now...to abandon what they built....is suicide.

Amazon
Originally posted by TrueLoveBelieve
We all have our opinions don't we. The ORIGINAL point of the show was to make a show about how he became superman, but as the show evolved, that became secondary. The relationships between the characters, especially Clark and Lana, stole the show...and became the show. Just go back to the first few seasons.....the last 5 minutes of almost every show centered around some discussion between Clark and Lana. The producers, whether they planned it or not, found a special, believable chemistry between those two actors...and THAT is why the show had such a great run of strong ratings...NOT because of superman. To ignore it now...to abandon what they built....is suicide.

The show is how Clark Kent became superman.. it's always been about that. For example... Clark and Lana's relationship ending with Lana marrying Lex. Which means Lex betrayed Clark, thus increasing thier fued with one another. And we all know that Lex and Clark become enemies. This is a powerful way to show how they became enemies. They wouldn't nearly hate eachother so much if it wasn't thier mutual love for Lana. Which does have to do with the growth of Clark into superman.
I don't think it's suicide at all. I think it's suicide to stay the same way. To stay the same and not grow as a show will only leave them behind when something better comes a long... Like a Justice league show or somthing like that.
Just my opinon. As you said, we all have them wink

TrueLoveBelieve
Originally posted by Amazon
To stay the same and not grow as a show will only leave them behind when something better comes a long... Like a Justice league show or somthing like that.
Just my opinon. As you said, we all have them wink

I agree that all of these character relationships, fueds, struggles, including the ties to the superman story come together to make a great show. The point I'm trying to make is, that intentionally done or not, there are two things that overshadowed the Superman story. A) the unique chemistry between kristen and Tom and B) the creative way the show creators made this a modern show by creating ties to our everyday world through the use of common social issues, real music, and focusing more on character relationships and character building.

This past season the show has really started to abandon much of that. A show that was geared toward young adults, now seems to be more appealing to a 12 year old with the OVERDOSE of comic reference.
It IS a justice league show now for the most part.

How has it grown??? It can't even pull the same ratings anymore.

Darkchoco
Originally posted by TrueLoveBelieve
I agree that all of these character relationships, fueds, struggles, including the ties to the superman story come together to make a great show. The point I'm trying to make is, that intentionally done or not, there are two things that overshadowed the Superman story. A) the unique chemistry between kristen and Tom and B) the creative way the show creators made this a modern show by creating ties to our everyday world through the use of common social issues, real music, and focusing more on character relationships and character building.

This past season the show has really started to abandon much of that. A show that was geared toward young adults, now seems to be more appealing to a 12 year old with the OVERDOSE of comic reference.
It IS a justice league show now for the most part.

How has it grown??? It can't even pull the same ratings anymore.

1. A relationship with Tom and Kirstin is very much secondary to the show.

2. Story of Superman is first.

3. "the creative way the show creators made this a modern show by creating ties to our everyday world through the use of common social issues, real music, and focusing more on character relationships and character building. "

...SHUT UP!!

4. Noob.

5. 1 episode was on a team called Justice. So dont give me this crap that all the show is about is Justice league.

6. It has grown in a lot of ways:

Lex turning to his dark side.

Lois and Clarks relationship.

Lex and Clarks hatred getting worse

7. Shut up, You claim to like the show but you say it keeps going on and on. A REAL fan knows how it has grown.

8. So take your ass and go back to watching Gilmore girls or One tree hill, you freak.

Amazon
Darkchoco there's no need for insults we're all entitled to our opinions.

Darkchoco
Yes maam. :-/

Magee
Thats the truth. Go re watch the O.C or one tree hill or some thing if you want emotional relationship stuff. Clark should realise he has the ability to fly after seeing bizzaro and zod do it, and what happened to him doing his kryptonian training...

Kal875
Originally posted by Darkchoco
1. A relationship with Tom and Kirstin is very much secondary to the show.

2. Story of Superman is first.

3. "the creative way the show creators made this a modern show by creating ties to our everyday world through the use of common social issues, real music, and focusing more on character relationships and character building. "

...SHUT UP!!

4. Noob.

5. 1 episode was on a team called Justice. So dont give me this crap that all the show is about is Justice league.

6. It has grown in a lot of ways:

Lex turning to his dark side.

Lois and Clarks relationship.

Lex and Clarks hatred getting worse

7. Shut up, You claim to like the show but you say it keeps going on and on. A REAL fan knows how it has grown.

8. So take your ass and go back to watching Gilmore girls or One tree hill, you freak. OR WILDFIRE!!!!!!!!!!!!!hysterical

TrueLoveBelieve
LMFAO!!! WOW! THANKS FOR THE LAUGHS....

But sorry children, this show would have tanked after season 1 had it not been for the Kristen/Tom dynamic. ESPECIALLY without Kristen. And the shows creators know this, that's why they've backed off the Lois/Clark thing....which never got off the ground anyway....those two go together like oil and water.

SOOO....I say...if you want some geeky comic sci-fi show...go catch a good heart warming Stargate episode. Because without 'Clana'....that's all you'll have. And if you want to see Superman...go watch a movie.

And by the way....I DO love the show...have seen every episode....I just don't want them to abandon what made it big.

OH, and yes....SMALLVILLE MINUS KRISTEN EQUALS 'SHOW CANCELLED'. wink

Have a nice day!!! laughing out loud

Darkchoco
You just lost all my respect.
Doesnt matter anyway cause Lois marries Clark dumbass.
and by the way

Smallville Minus Lana= a rest for my ears yes

and Dont have a nice day, You soap opera loving freak.

TrueLoveBelieve
Originally posted by Darkchoco
You just lost all my respect.



laughing out loud Keep em comin man.....this place brings a smile to my face.

Darkchoco
Why would I care? Noob.

TrueLoveBelieve
Originally posted by Darkchoco
Why would I care? Noob.

Hmm, you obviously do to continue to seek out and attack anyone that doesn't agree with you. Now go have mommy tuck you in....I think it's past your bedtime. big grin

Darkchoco
Your so sure of yourself, Is this your first forum or did you leave a Gilmore Girls one cause no one agreed with you about one of the girls breaking up with her perfect match. sad

LORDSIDIOUS01
Allison Mack will return.

TrueLoveBelieve
Originally posted by Darkchoco
Your so sure of yourself, Is this your first forum or did you leave a Gilmore Girls one cause no one agreed with you about one of the girls breaking up with her perfect match. sad

You have quite the obsession with this Gilmore Girls show....is it good? Sorry man, but I'm into hot chicks like Kristen....not some cartoon.
Kristen rocks... big grin

Darkchoco
Originally posted by TrueLoveBelieve
You have quite the obsession with this Gilmore Girls show....is it good? Sorry man, but I'm into hot chicks like Kristen....not some cartoon.
Kristen rocks... big grin

I never said I didnt like Kirstin, she just doesnt make the show and she isnt a goddess.

TrueLoveBelieve
Originally posted by Darkchoco
I never said I didnt like Kirstin, she just doesnt make the show and she isnt a goddess.

Who's 'Kirsten'? Is that one of those Gilmore guys you are so into?

Kal875
TrueLoveBelieve,c'mon stop with the insults, DC, will warm up to you after a while.

Darkchoco
I will if she shuts up and relizes that no one agrees with her.

I swear shes more annoying than lana.

TrueLoveBelieve
Originally posted by Darkchoco
I will if she shuts up and relizes that no one agrees with her.

I swear shes more annoying than lana.


Cmon DC admit it....You and Kal are really the Gilmore Girls. And thats where all this jealously is coming...I mean cmon...gigs up ladies......

Darkchoco
What? What kind of diss is that? Stop whining that Lana is not responding to your sex letters and accually own up to the truth, Lana does not make the show dumbass.

TrueLoveBelieve
Originally posted by Darkchoco
What? What kind of diss is that?

A Brilliant One. Excuse me while I go back to lmao. Cmon man! Can't you give me facts to back up you're beliefs outside the DC/Kal/Arachnid love triangle? I mean dude, the more you three post, the less convincing you become.....but don't stop, please, I needed a good laugh tonight. laughing out loud

Kal875
Ok TB, well do this organized. What do you see in Lana, and why do you like her?

Amazon
Originally posted by TrueLoveBelieve
A Brilliant One. Excuse me while I go back to lmao. Cmon man! Can't you give me facts to back up you're beliefs outside the DC/Kal/Arachnid love triangle? I mean dude, the more you three post, the less convincing you become.....but don't stop, please, I needed a good laugh tonight. laughing out loud

Oh my god this is soooo stupid mad This is all opinion. What are we trying to gain from this stupid fight.

If you think that a weak, stupid, pathetic character, that exists for no other reason than to give Clark practice at rescuing someone is a good thing then that's fine. It's your opinion. Like her all you want. Get a room alone with her and have all the special time you want with her.

This thread in and of itself says that 99% of the audience does not agree with you. Which means that the Smallville writers are on the write track by getting rid of Lana or at least changing the relationship between Lana and Clark.

Again this is so silly.

Kal875
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Arachnid1
Originally posted by Amazon
Oh my god this is soooo stupid mad This is all opinion. What are we trying to gain from this stupid fight.

If you think that a weak, stupid, pathetic character, that exists for no other reason than to give Clark practice at rescuing someone is a good thing then that's fine. It's your opinion. Like her all you want. Get a room alone with her and have all the special time you want with her.

This thread in and of itself says that 99% of the audience does not agree with you. Which means that the Smallville writers are on the write track by getting rid of Lana or at least changing the relationship between Lana and Clark.

Again this is so silly.

Whether you like Lana or not is opinion. Whether she makes the show or not is all up to fact.

Fact is, smallville doesn't revolve around Lana. Its not about her.

As for the opinion part, if she goes back to the way she was when smallville restrarted, I'm good, but current lana is annoying and the only person I've seen who likes her from both the forums I go too is TLB. Everyone else wants her dead or out of the show. Smallville would be better without Lana or if she went back to her old self.

But, if TLB wants objectivity, fine. I'll go with Kals question.

What do you see in Lana?

Darkchoco
Originally posted by Amazon
Oh my god this is soooo stupid mad This is all opinion. What are we trying to gain from this stupid fight.

If you think that a weak, stupid, pathetic character, that exists for no other reason than to give Clark practice at rescuing someone is a good thing then that's fine. It's your opinion. Like her all you want. Get a room alone with her and have all the special time you want with her.

This thread in and of itself says that 99% of the audience does not agree with you. Which means that the Smallville writers are on the write track by getting rid of Lana or at least changing the relationship between Lana and Clark.

Again this is so silly.

Nicely said.

Kal875
(off subject) Just letting you all know, I asked them to change my name to "Kal of Krypton".

TrueLoveBelieve
Originally posted by Amazon
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This thread in and of itself says that 99% of the audience does not agree with you.
Again this is so silly.

Oh you mean Kal, Arach, DC, and yourself? The same 4 trolls who keep popping up in every thread of this forum? wow, big audience. Ok, you MUST be right then, I'm convinced. I bow down to you four. Heaven forbid I should come onto this forum and have a different opinion than the fab four! Whew...what was I thinking? wink

Amazon
Your obviously trying to convince everyone that you like Lana. We get it, you like Lana. Soooooo lets move on. geezzz tv_horror

Even Kristen Kreuk has spoken out against her character. She's been wanting a change for Lana since before everyone else did. What does that say.

Ok this is the last I'll say about this..... for now.

Darkchoco
Originally posted by Kal875
(off subject) Just letting you all know, I asked them to change my name to "Kal of Krypton".

Nice lol I want my name to be KalelJosh

Same as my 360 name stick out tongue

TrueLoveBelieve
Originally posted by Amazon
Your obviously trying to convince everyone that you like Lana. We get it, you like Lana.

Trying to convince the fab four? Do I care? I'm just giving my opinion babe and being attacked right and left. Go back to my original posts less than a week ago and the responses from the fab four. Actually, yours were somewhat civil Ama...but the other three were nothin short of immature. But I guess that's what happens in this form when a 'noob' comes in and offers an opinion different from that of the fab four. But hey, that's cool. Like I said, I need a good laugh. Thanks! laughing out loud

Mr Parker
Originally posted by Arachnid1
I think Clark is going to learn how to fly in the next season. His Bizzaro flies and I think the only way he can truely match this guy is if he learns to fly.

Also, it wasn't Lex who staged the bomb in the car. You all saw the truck passing by when she was getting in the car. As soon as the truck passed by, it blew up. Lana is still alive. She took a ride on the truck and blew up the car to make it look like she died so that would keep Lionel off he trailer and she could frame Lex for it to send him to jail. It all makes perfect sense. Unfortunately, the person who is dieing this season is Chloe. My second favorite character in the show.

sad

Dammit...

hooray chloe is finally gone.yahoo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Happy Dance

Darkchoco
Bite your tongue, Chloe shall LIVe!!

Arachnid1
Originally posted by TrueLoveBelieve
Trying to convince the fab four? Do I care? I'm just giving my opinion babe and being attacked right and left. Go back to my original posts less than a week ago and the responses from the fab four. Actually, yours were somewhat civil Ama...but the other three were nothin short of immature. But I guess that's what happens in this form when a 'noob' comes in and offers an opinion different from that of the fab four. But hey, that's cool. Like I said, I need a good laugh. Thanks! laughing out loud
All I've ever done is debate with you over that fact that smallville doesn't revolve around lana and you call me a troll?

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bangin

EDIT: Nevermind. Just found out your banned. Whatever. Couldn't care less.

~JP~
Yep and its been peaceful in here ever since. laughing out loud

Arachnid1
Originally posted by ~JP~
Yep and its been peaceful in here ever since. laughing out loud Yes. It has. big grin

((The_Anomaly))
This show isn't about Clark and Lana, that is only a SMALL fraction of the show. What its really about it Clark coming to grips with who he is and what he must do about it. Its about Clark's struggle between wanting to be human and fitting in, its about him accepting that he will never be like everyone else and in the end he embraces it and decides to stop questioning himself and becomes Superman. The show is about Clark's struggle with his own "humanity" (or lack there of). Its not about Lana, Lana isn't even that important in the overall scheme of Clark's life. Lois is far far more important, but even she is secondary in Smallville. When it comes down to it Smallville is about Clark becoming Superman. Thats it.

TrueL0veBelieve
Originally posted by ((The_Anomaly))
This show isn't about Clark and Lana, that is only a SMALL fraction of the show.


Well, a small fraction was the orignal intention of the show's creators. But it quickly grew into something more...something different. Had it not, it would not have lasted more than one season.

Kal of Krypton
Lana's worse than a politician. The 1st 2 season were only "I love you" and "I hate you" between Lana and Clark every other ep.

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