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Fear the tiger force of creation. Darkseid curbstomps the 80s rock reject.

If champion uses all of his fighting style, there is no way in hell darkseid could beat him. The guy knows every fighting style in the universe. Cant get no better than that. BUT he dont use it, the only thing that he shows is brute strength, (fights like the thing)instead of martial arts.

A champion written like hes suppose to be (goku of marvel) wins 10/10. The champion that we see in comics loses 10/10

Even written to his highest potential, he's going up against the pinnacle of Skyfathers. He's quite simply outclassed.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Even written to his highest potential, he's going up against the pinnacle of Skyfathers. He's quite simply outclassed.

Thats your opinion and you are a darkseid lover. Im just looking at facts. Superman dont even have any kind of fighting skills that come close to champs (that uses his fighting skills) but he whoops darkseid a** on a regular basis. He dont use any speed, etc... he just simply whips his a**.

Now if you get champion, who has crushed planets with his fist and is an immortal (great durability) and fighting skills is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>supermans. He should beat the hell out of darkseid. BUT as I stated before champion dont use the fighting skills that he has so he would probably lose but a champion that is written the way his powers is suppose to be would beat darkseid 10/10

I know you hate the fact that superman beats on darkseid but hey it done happened to many times for you to call it pis.

If Champion lived up to his hype, he should school damn near anybody in hand to hand.

Unforntunatly for Champion he's an idiot who never uses any sort of skill.

Darkseid is going to mess him up badly.

Originally posted by carver9
I know you hate the fact that superman beats on darkseid but hey it done happened to many times for you to call it pis. Try actually reading the three comics in the past 15 years where Superman has "beat" DS and try to look at the context of the fights. Superman beating on DS is in no way a low showing for him when they are about 10 miles from the sun and DS has made kara his *****.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Unforntunatly for Champion he's an idiot who never uses any sort of skill.

Darkseid is going to mess him up badly.
Pretty much.

Not to mention Darkseid is a pretty formidable fighter in H2H. He and Orion duked it out with Martial arts. He was schooling Orion.

What if Champion has the power gem?

Originally posted by Magee
Try actually reading the three comics in the past 15 years where Superman has "beat" DS and try to look at the context of the fights. Superman beating on DS is in no way a low showing for him when they are about 10 miles from the sun and DS has made kara his *****.

So youre telling me that everytime superman has beaten on darkseid they were by the sun. So when superman was choking darkseid out when darkseid had on the kryptonite gloves, superman was by the sun. Now it was some instances (but it wasnt stated by the writter that superman had aid from the sun) that they were fighting and you seen the sun but there have been to many times that superman has won without the aid of the sun. But i have never seen the sun aiding superman in any of there fights except in the past. Recently superman has been b***** slapping darkseid like hes his son.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Unforntunatly for Champion he's an idiot who never uses any sort of skill.

Darkseid is going to mess him up badly.

True statement but if he was using his full ability he would rape darkseid. Im talking about beat the hell out of him.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Unforntunatly for Champion he's an idiot who never uses any sort of skill.

Darkseid is going to mess him up badly.

It's jobberin' time!

Carver, spetnaz tried to clue you into this last time you went on a rant about Supes beating Darkseid.

He was very concise and summed it up in one sentence. "Minus PIS, Darkseid is next to unbeatable." Superman can never defeat Darkseid legitimately. Superman cannot win against Darkseid. Darkseid will never lose to Superman outside of massive PIS ala Jeph Loeb.

Ash: F U.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Carver, spetnaz tried to clue you into this last time you went on a rant about Supes beating Darkseid.

He was very concise and summed it up in one sentence. "Minus PIS, Darkseid is next to unbeatable." Superman can never defeat Darkseid legitimately. Superman cannot win against Darkseid. Darkseid will never lose to Superman outside of massive PIS ala Jeph Loeb.

Ash: F U.

Well a lot of people on this forum has also said that superman is going back to his precrisis period and has gotten a huge power increase. So dont you think that that would help him in a sense in beating darkseid.

I do consider darkseid to be >>>>> superman but since i have seen superman whip up on darkseid so much, dc has put it in there mind in making superman superior to darkseid.

Don't bring up that pre-crisis shit. Darkseid was smacking Superman around even in pre-crisis. And the crisis never affected him to begin with.

And you never heard of Avatars or Jeph Loeb?

I've already written a neat little post about the Darkseid fights...
I'll try and find it.

Oh and Superman has beaten Darkseid like what? 3, maybe four times, and only one wasn't told to be an avatar, and that same one, had some serious circumstances, that someone hasn't even acknowledged... oh well.

Darkseid has whooped the shit out of Superman at least 4 more times (I mean times, as in multiplying) post-crisis than Superman has...

Also, what kind of idiot stretches the page?

Carver did it.

Originally posted by carver9
Well a lot of people on this forum has also said that superman is going back to his precrisis period and has gotten a huge power increase. So dont you think that that would help him in a sense in beating darkseid.

Well since PreCrisisSuperman has a far worse record against Darkseid than the current one . . .

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Carver did it.

did what

Originally posted by Evil_Ash
It's jobberin' time!
I cracked the **** up after reading that.

Thanks for giving me an awesome ending to my day.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Unforntunatly for Champion he's an idiot who never uses any sort of skill.



Sad, but true.

If written the way he is supposed to be written, he should lose to no one H2H, below skyfather.

Did it ever occur to anyone that Thanos decided to use his shields, energy attacks, and teleportation instead of go mano a mano with the freak? And Thanos was looking for a so called challenge too.

Originally posted by carver9
So when superman was choking darkseid out when darkseid had on the kryptonite gloves

That was an illusion created by Max Lord.

Originally posted by BobbyD
Sad, but true.

If written the way he is supposed to be written, he should lose to no one H2H, below skyfather.

Did it ever occur to anyone that Thanos decided to use his shields, energy attacks, and teleportation instead of go mano a mano with the freak? And Thanos was looking for a so called challenge too.

Thanos is a pimp

He just didn't want to dirty his Gloves with Chumpions blood....

champion got three ribs broken by the thing didnt he.......he's not that great a fighter.......he also lost to the she hulk

Originally posted by Mider999
champion got three ribs broken by the thing didnt he.......he's not that great a fighter.......he also lost to the she hulk

Yeah. Champion is a terrible fighter.

The Elders need a mini or an Annihilation off shoot to display their powers.

Originally posted by grey fox
Thanos is a pimp

He just didn't want to dirty his Gloves with Chumpions blood....



Yes, Thanos is a pimp...wholeheatedly agree.

But, if Thanos was out to prove himself the best, why wouldn't he go toe to toe (H2H) with a guy with a much lesser skill set? Ask yourself that question....

Originally posted by BobbyD


Yes, Thanos is a pimp...wholeheatedly agree.

But, if Thanos was out to prove himself the best, why wouldn't he go toe to toe (H2H) with a guy with a much lesser skill set? Ask yourself that question.... And if Champion was actually the best for Thanos to be measured against, why would he get his face smashed in by She Hulk? I'm not even sure he landed a blow in the fight.
And even in the fight of Thanos vs Champion, Champion was more running around like an enraged bull, than anyone of his apperently skill should have. You'll notice how he's compared to Incredible Hulk in the arc, as well, rather than being compared to a calculating, expert martial artist.

Originally posted by Juntai
And if Champion was actually the best for Thanos to be measured against, why would he get his face smashed in by She Hulk? I'm not even sure he landed a blow in the fight.
And even in the fight of Thanos vs Champion, Champion was more running around like an enraged bull, than anyone of his apperently skill should have. You'll notice how he's compared to Incredible Hulk in the arc, as well, rather than being compared to a calculating, expert martial artist.

Good counter. Then all I can say is that he is written extremely poorly for someone of his attributes.

she hulk beating thanos should be disregarded immediately and they should fire that writer. thanos beats any version of hulk. was poorly written. but as regards to this chapion beats darksied due to his lack of experience in hand to hand. he just doesnt do it enoughand hasnt trumped anyone in hand to hand as often together that puts him as the vicotr. darkseid with his powers he gets the easy win but hand to hand darkseid yields. champion is the new ruler of apokilips.

champion beats his ****ing face in, pretty simple to me

Originally posted by LogicalDebater
champion beats his ****ing face in, pretty simple to me

it would have to be simple, you're a tard. doped

Champion got his ass kicked by She-Hulk. Darkseid has had much better showings against his enemies.

darkseid isnt that great at hand to hand. champion takes it

Darkseid's been shown to be fairly competent at HTH. I also think that he is physically stronger than the Champion.

darkseid got owned by superman and darkseid without his omega beam to rely on gets owned here

Originally posted by Ymir
Darkseid's been shown to be fairly competent at HTH. I also think that he is physically stronger than the Champion.
I doubt that since Champion may be just as strong as Thanos.

Originally posted by Priest
I doubt that since Champion may be just as strong as Thanos. good point preist, darkseid relies on his powers to much that is the reason for why he is lacking inhand to hand combat. he either uses his powers or has someone else do it. its simple

Didn't Champ get stomped by Thanos? How many times have they fought?