hehe. i have a feeling a certain someone has been feeding you a couple scans and a little information . . . i wonder why he would do that . . .?
anywho, to address your points:
1. the shield breach by shrapnel: you DO know shrapnel was strong enough to hang toe-to-toe with superman, right . . .? shrapnel breaking through does NOT equal darkrage breaking through.
2. shield v radioactivity: just curious -- what type of radiation was it exactly that prevented the shield's formation? any idea? i'll field that one! NO! you have no idea, because . . . it was never stated! what IS known, is that later, an amped shield was set to block the detonation of a NUCLEAR BOMB.
http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/742/shieldxx1.th.jpg
not sure how much you know about nuclear armaments, but they give off . . . rather large amounts of radiation of ALL types. if the shield had a weakness to radiation, having her raise even an amped one to stop a nuclear bomb probably isn't a very good idea. and just because the shield is amped, does NOT mean it would eliminate the weakness. sun-dipped superman can STILL be killed by kryptonite.
so, getting back to the point -- that scan you . . . 'found' either: shows a very exotic form of radiation affecting the shield (a type NOT given off by a nuclear bomb), or it shows an unknown form of radiation simply preventing her RAISING the shield in the first place (could very well be that if the shield was ALREADY up it would have been unaffected by the radiation -- we have no way of knowing for sure) or it was simply a bit of PIS to allow her to show off another of her powers. but, since you've got the scans handy, you'll probably know what ability i'm talking about.
3. vibranium radiation v the shield:
first, i already went over the whole radiation angle. to now try and claim that the trace amounts of radiation in your claws and suit would be enough to somehow penetrate my shields isn't . . . a very strong argument. to say it would give off next to zero radiation would be generous. you're comparing the radiation from your suit with the VIBRANIUM MOUND in wakanda?! a veritable mountain of vibranium that has been present for thousands of years? sheer volume and length of exposure to a vibranium MOUNTAIN explains the reason for what is happening to the flora and fauna in wakanda. in the amounts it exists on your person, its effects would be less than negligible.
i don't blame you for trying though, because, frankly, you have no options BUT to make these enormous leaps. you and i both know very well you have no way to penetrate my shields. unfortunately for you, the fields WILL work just fine. you can't get through them, and you can't do a single thing when you are trapped within them.
4. the extra arms: you say rogue has copied the physical properties of people she has touched before, so it's not really spiral's mind that brought the arms to rogue, but rather it was rogue's power that allowed the arms to exist. problem with this? if what you say is true, there would be 2 cybernetic arms attached to rogue. the rogue body HAS no cybernetic arms.
the arms are a property of spiral's supernatural power. spiral possessed rogue, simple as that. she's just . . . weird, and does a lot of strange things. her mind was transferred to rogue when contact was made. on-panel evidence shows clearly that when the transfer happened, rogue gained 4 extra arms. cut and dry. when spiral's mind left, so did the arms.
as for rogue's manifesting wolverine's claws -- in maximum security, she absorbed the powers of a skrull (shape-shifter). the absorption threw her all out of whack and since then, she has had the ability to, at times, manifest/replicate the physical properties of those she touches.
the scan i showed you was WELL before the maximum security arc. do you have proof she manifests physical characteristics (ie -- the claws) before the max security arc . . .?
all right, pleasantries dealt with:
important things NOT to lose sight of:
the forcefields will certainly work. darkrage did precisely what i said he would -- he speedblitzed me, and even suggested he flashbanged. to flashbang, he needs to stop. in that moment, i teleport to him, wrap him in the shields, hold him with my 6 arms and finish him by stabbing, or i let him suffocate.
or, i watch him charge my shield. if he tries to pound on it, which it seems he thinks would be very effective, feeling his, er, 'vibranium radiation punches' could get through, he's disappointed when he can't but the feeling is short lived as he is wrapped in fields and finished off quickly.
or, i sit in my forcefield, watch him veer off to . . . wherever, then, using my senses, i teleport IN FRONT OF HIM (like she did in the scan above) but this time, instead of sticking out her foot, she punches him with 3 cl100 arms (he would most definitely NOT be expecting me to appear in front of him) sending him flying back. she then simply ports again, behind him this time, wraps him in a bear-hug and . . . well, you know the rest.
or, she tracks him with her senses, just ports straight TO HIM, wraps him up, and . . .
or, i simply stop screwing around and do this:
http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/2456/freezevm6.th.jpg
and while you're frozen i either blaster you several times with my blaster arms, to stun you then teleport behind you to finish you, or i release the spell AS i teleport and i'm on you before you can get away. again, instaneous motion>>mach 10.
oh, and the spell has ALREADY been approved by goob.
once again, kali is simply too versatile for darkrage. he has no way to get through my shields. his 'vibranium radiation' is a desperate attempt to find a way because he knows there IS no way. he has also failed to show how he could avoid simply being tracked and taken out by my senses and teleportation. again, because there IS no way to avoid it. somehow, it seems he feels he has a speed advantage. but, to one who can anticipate movements and TELEPORT, his speed is meaningless and wherever he tries to go, i can beat him there. actually, I'M the one with the motion advantage.
lastly, on a personal note: entity, i've never at anytime given the illusion of NOT using b8's powers. i have CONSTANTLY defended the use of the b8 scans through several threads, i have confirmation from goob stating he KNEW i was drafting the ANDROID powers (not just indy's powers -- the ANDROID'S powers) and i've constantly referred to her through many threads as BOTH indy AND b8. besides, you didn't seem to have a problem with her earlier, even ADMITTING she never appeared>IM:
Originally posted by Entity
Her and Superboy went nuts on the Titans and Outsiders if its the one I'm thinking of.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigo_%28comics%29
She never really appeared to be > than Ironman but I would think she'd have more than enough potential being a Brainiac and all.
Ehh never mind as long as no one else cares then she's fine with me too.
in light of that, to NOW say i'm being . . . crooked
seems a bit . . . disingenuous.
can i attribute the change in heart to the chirping of a certain little birdie . . .?
the type of comprehensively detailed info you're claiming exists, simply doesn't. comics have been written (avengers files, cerebro files, etc . . .) showing you the 'computer info' contained in the databanks of both the avengers and xmen. nothing in any of those things are as detailed as you are looking for. general info only, some more detailed than others, is usually what you see. and you'd have NOTHING on indigo/B8 whose shields you are up against.
