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The Dragons and Clover both have one thing in common, which is they both can survive whatever weapons the armed forces can throw at them.

So what happens if you place Mama Dragon and five of her brood against the (supposedly) indestructable Cloverfield monster with the Big Apple as their battleground - aside from massive property damage?

The humans (the cast from both Cloverfield and Reign of Fire) are watching this battle from the safety of Liberty Island. And for some strange reason, Johnny Cash's 'Ring of Fire' is playing.

Wrong, the dragons can be killed my conventional weapons, they took over the world through mass numbers.

Coverfield monster survived a M.O.A.B., dragons couldn't harm it and the Cloverfield monster would have difficulty hitting the flying dragons. Not a good match, this.

Edit: It would be "Papa Dragon", the main one was the male.

The biggest baddest dragon got pwnd by a mortal man with a crossbow.

Considering the massive numbers difference, the fact that each dragon is a living flamethrower, and then there is the fact that Clover will have a hard time hitting one dragon, the dragons.

The "Bull" Dragon got his ass handed to him. The Cloverfield monster would kick the dragons' asses.

Even though he would never hit one of them, and all of them could attack him from a distance?

The dragons, eventually, would have to get in close to attack. Their fire-breath can only be sprayed so far, you know. They produce fire by spraying two separate chemicals from the glands located on each side of the mouth. Eventually, their glands would run out of the chemicals that make the fire, and then would have to resort to tooth and claw.

...There are THOUSANDS upon THOUSANDS of dragons, and as durable as Clover is, he's not totally invulnerable...I doubt every single dragon will have to expend their glands.

Dragons can fly, Cloverfield can't. Dragons win.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
The biggest baddest dragon got pwnd by a mortal man with a crossbow.

that was a shot in a million. If he was off the slightest inch they would have all died. Bale had every shred of luck on his side in that situation. If the humans had years to study cloverfield and analyze it's weaknesses i'm sure a few humans could exploit that and "bring the beast down" as long as the Cloverfields intelligence is parallel to that of the Dragons in Reign of Fire. We don't know anything about Cloverfield but we do know that everything burns

Originally posted by ragesRemorse
that was a shot in a million. If he was off the slightest inch they would have all died. Bale had every shred of luck on his side in that situation. If the humans had years to study cloverfield and analyze it's weaknesses i'm sure a few humans could exploit that and "bring the beast down" as long as the Cloverfields intelligence is parallel to that of the Dragons in Reign of Fire. We don't know anything about Cloverfield but we do know that everything burns

Yeah, because he's Chrsitian freakin' Bale. Can't wait to see him as John Connor.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Considering the massive numbers difference, the fact that each dragon is a living flamethrower, and then there is the fact that Clover will have a hard time hitting one dragon, the dragons.

Considering that those "flame throwers" were not hot enough or had enough force to hurt a guy in a fire fighter anti-fire suit, and Clovvie tanked the strongest non-nuclear weapon in the entire US arsenal, as well as rocket launchers, automatic weapons, missles, RPG's, and 50 cal. slugs without a scratch (except for the MOAB), the dragons can atatck him all day and he won't even feel it. That's the funny thing about fire, it doesn't increase in potency the more of it is around, so if one dragon's fire isn't enough to hurt him, a trillion dragon's fire isn't enough to hurt him.

Clovvie also tagged not one, but two attack chopters in the movie; he can certaintly tag a dragon.

A good analogy would be Superman vs many Green Goblins.

Oh wait, Hulk vs many Green Goblins. Superman would win, but the Hulk analogy is better cause Hulk can't fly and the GG's can't hurt him. But Superman would win.

Why are you dumb****s arguing that the dragons win, when they have no chance of harming it and can only stay out of range to stay alive?

And for the record, Clovvie is an aquatic animal, he can stay underwater forever if he wants to. If the Dragons act gay and fly around forever he can just hop into the ocean and chill for however long he likes.

lol "if the dragons act gay".

How do we know that fire doesn't hurt Cloverfield?

Originally posted by ragesRemorse
How do we know that fire doesn't hurt Cloverfield?

Because it was hit with napalm (if I recall correctly) and it survived a M.O.A.B. strike.

Now, if you're going to say some silly shit like "the dragons fire is hotter/more powerful" than a napalm and a M.O.A.B., may I remind you of the scene where Gerard Butler dies and the the main dragons fire isn't hot enough to melt an iron door.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
...There are THOUSANDS upon THOUSANDS of dragons, and as durable as Clover is, he's not totally invulnerable...I doubt every single dragon will have to expend their glands.

Those "thousands upon thousands" of dragon are not a variable factor in this fight.

The rules specify that the maximum number of participants in a match is 3 vs. 3. So, it's gonna be Clover vs 3 Dragons. Or did you forget the rules?

Originally posted by Impediment
Those "thousands upon thousands" of dragon are not a variable factor in this fight.

The rules specify that the maximum number of participants in a match is 3 vs. 3. So, it's gonna be Clover vs 3 Dragons. Or did you forget the rules?

My bad. Clover vs Mama dragon and two smaller Dragons

Originally posted by Snafu the Great
My bad. Clover vs Mama dragon and two smaller Dragons

The "mama" dragon is actually the Bull Dragon. He goes around from egg nest to egg nest that the females lay, and fertilizes each nest so the eggs can hatch and, thus, produce more dragons.

Originally posted by Impediment
The "mama" dragon is actually the Bull Dragon. He goes around from egg nest to egg nest that the females lay, and fertilizes each nest so the eggs can hatch and, thus, produce more dragons.

Crap. I thought that was the mama dragon. Now I gotta look at the damn movie again.

Originally posted by Snafu the Great
Crap. I thought that was the mama dragon. Now I gotta look at the damn movie again.

ah, c'mon! you'll get to see christian bale and gerard butler re-enact the star wars luke-loses-a-hand moment!

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nah, you're right.

dammit

Originally posted by Robtard
Because it was hit with napalm (if I recall correctly) and it survived a M.O.A.B. strike.

Now, if you're going to say some silly shit like "the dragons fire is hotter/more powerful" than a napalm and a M.O.A.B., may I remind you of the scene where Gerard Butler dies and the the main dragons fire isn't hot enough to melt an iron door.

I wasnt going to say anything of the sort, but thank you anyway

I know that Cloverfield survived those attacks but how do we know it was unaffected? Of course if the big monster gets ahold of the dragons they die instantly but because of their flight they could attack and retreat forever.

Someone made an analogy of this match, a bunch of green goblins vs the hulk. I think a more appropriate analogy would be fighter jets against a highly reinforced super tank with no homing capabilities.

Originally posted by ragesRemorse
I wasnt going to say anything of the sort, but thank you anyway

I know that Cloverfield survived those attacks but how do we know it was unaffected? Of course if the big monster gets ahold of the dragons they die instantly but because of their flight they could attack and retreat forever.

Someone made an analogy of this match, a bunch of green goblins vs the hulk. I think a more appropriate analogy would be fighter jets against a highly reinforced super tank with no homing capabilities.

The napalm strike didn't do anything, except knock it off balance for a few moments; it seemed fine after the M.O.A.B.

Regardless of how hard it would be for the monster to hit the dragons, the dragons can't do a thing to it, so it's either the dragons staying safely out of range or the monster manages to hit them like it did those helicopters and it wins. Either way, the dragons are useless here.

Rob is right, the Clover monster PWNS the dragons.

But Dragonzord would own both of them.

I just think that the combined heat of three dragons breathing down on cloverfield time and time again would put it down.

Also, i would argue that cloverfield survived the bomb at the end. I only argue this because the creature we see at the very end is not the creature we saw demolishing the city. The creature i saw tearing ass out of the city was hundreds of feet tall and the beast i saw looking over the camera at the end looked more like 15-30 feet tall.

I know it probably survived but that thing looked nothing like the thing that took the copter down to me.

Abrams already confirmed that there was only one monster and it looked different due to camera angles.

In any case, the Dragon's fire can't melt steel doors easily and can't kill guys in fire repelled suits, it's not going to kill Clovvie.

Originally posted by Robtard
it seemed fine after the M.O.A.B. Completely ignoring the fact we never saw it after the MOAB.

But yeah, only three dragons? Clover wins.

Originally posted by NonSensi-Klown
Abrams already confirmed that there was only one monster and it looked different due to camera angles.

In any case, the Dragon's fire can't melt steel doors easily and can't kill guys in fire repelled suits, it's not going to kill Clovvie.

because of camera angles? hahaha, that's a bad excuse for, "we didn't realize how much we screwed up".

Yeah, the Dragons probably couldn't take the cloverfield monster down, not three, but they are still cooler...,give me that much, dammit.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Completely ignoring the fact we never saw it after the MOAB.

But yeah, only three dragons? Clover wins.

It was alive and I believe the online hints/follow-up stated that it was still rampaging.

Make it 3,000 dragons, they still couldn't hurt it. It'd just be a VERY long fight.

People seem to be ignoring the fact that more fire does not equal= more powerful fire. The potency of fire does not stack.

Lol, "stack". Reminds me of WC3.

I was thinking of Warcraft when I Said it, incidentally.

Lol, No way!

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Originally posted by NonSensi-Klown
People seem to be ignoring the fact that more fire does not equal= more powerful fire. The potency of fire does not stack. The longer something is subjected to an open flame, the hotter it becomes. Only in the case I was referring to there would be thousands of open flames being thrown at Clover from nearly all sides, which would continue to heat Clover's body.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
The longer something is subjected to an open flame, the hotter it becomes.

Yes, over a long, long period of time. wo0o0o...



Except for the fact that the fight is in like, new York, which is like, surrounded by an Ocean, and Clovvie is like, an aquatic animal that can stay underwater for thousands of years.

lol.

Originally posted by NonSensi-Klown
Yes, over a long, long period of time. wo0o0o...



Except for the fact that the fight is in like, new York, which is like, surrounded by an Ocean, and Clovvie is like, an aquatic animal that can stay underwater for thousands of years.

lol. 1. A long long period of time? It depends on how much flame is being showered on it, in this case, thousands of beams of fire on about every body part. And Clover will never actually be able to hit one of the dragons.

2. So Clover runs away? Cause that is what that is. It is not like Clover can attack from under the water.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
1. A long long period of time? It depends on how much flame is being showered on it, in this case, thousands of beams of fire on about every body part. And Clover will never actually be able to hit one of the dragons.

2. So Clover runs away? Cause that is what that is. It is not like Clover can attack from under the water.

Yes, because thousands of dragons can just hover in the air like hummingbirds and spew fire indefinitely from very long range in some sort of planned fashion. They're ****ing animals, not synchronized olympic swimmers.

Edit: Did I mentioned that it was still alive after a M.O.A.B.? Those have enough force to level 9 city blocks.

Originally posted by Robtard
Yes, because thousands of dragons can just hover in the air like hummingbirds and spew fire indefinitely from very long range in some sort of planned fashion. They're ****ing animals, not synchronized olympic swimmers.

Edit: Did I mentioned that it was still alive after a M.O.A.B.? Those have enough force to level 9 city blocks. Considering there are thousands, and they all are smaller than Clover, so natural animal instinct says that they cannot physically overpower it(actually...All the dragons in a dogpile actually would), they would stick to blasting fire, and considering the amount of dragons here, Clover would be being constantly engulfed in it.

It was alive, but saying it survived it and was "fine" is not confirmed at all, and yes, I know what a MOAB is, it is the strongest non-nuclear US bomb, dubbed the "Mother of All Bombs", and yeah, one of those are more powerful than a single dragon's fireblast, but thousands of dragons pouring fire on Clover, continuously heating him up?

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Considering there are thousands, and they all are smaller than Clover, so natural animal instinct says that they cannot physically overpower it(actually...All the dragons in a dogpile actually would), they would stick to blasting fire, and considering the amount of dragons here, Clover would be being constantly engulfed in it.

It was alive, but saying it survived it and was "fine" is not confirmed at all, and yes, I know what a MOAB is, it is the strongest non-nuclear US bomb, dubbed the "Mother of All Bombs", and yeah, one of those are more powerful than a single dragon's fireblast, but thousands of dragons pouring fire on Clover, continuously heating him up?

Actually, in this fight there's the male and 3 (or4?) females. But going on the grounds that there's thousands of them, I still don't see some orchestrated fight were the dragons continually are blasting fire on it in some planned attack to heat it up to whichever temperature you assume it needs to reach in order to die.

One thing of possible note, if the monster was indeed that object that fell from space, it not only survived being in the vacuum of space, but the intense heat of entering Earth's atmosphere and the impact of hitting the ocean. Which makes sense in regards to it surving a M.O.A.B., as it's designed to survive extremes.

I conceded the point that is was "fine" after the bomb strike, even though the the online following of it had implied that it was still rampaging. But going on that it was still alive even after a M.O.A.B., it stands to reason that fire isn't going to bring it down, the dragon's fire couldn't melt through an iron (or steel) door and flame-suits proved effective against the flames. Now, maybe if Superman (that's for you) tossed it into the Sun, that would probably be hot enough.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
1. A long long period of time? It depends on how much flame is being showered on it, in this case, thousands of beams of fire on about every body part. And Clover will never actually be able to hit one of the dragons.

Clovvie can hit attack helicopters but can't hit a dragon, especially considering that these dragons have to get in close in order to attack with their flame attacks?



And flying two hundred feet into the air above your enemy would be running away to by that logic, because the dragon's fire breath doesn't have that long of a range. yes, it's running away, but you are allowed to run away in a vs. fight if you have the intention of coming back and you don't leave the combat zone, like a BFR. Jumping into the water to cool yourself off and avoid fire is a perfectly logical and intelligent tactic.

MOAB = High Heat + Blast Trauma/Concussive Force

That's the main element that could hurt Clover, not the pretty flames.

I would have to say Cloverfield would win this. Seems the dragons were some what easily killed by humans, when Cloverfield was untouchable. Especially just against five dragons. Cloverfield 10/10