Click HERE to see this thread with all of the graphics, features, and links.

If these 2 warriors due it out who would win
A) The Liqued Terminator From Terminator 2
B)The Hulk

Setting- a city
On Your personal opinion who would win
(mine Terminator)

Hulk wins via liquid-dispearsing thunderclap.

Hulk isn't really intelligent enough to do the molten metal trick so i think he'd pick up T-1000 and throw it into space....

Movie Hulk might lose, comic Hulk would win easily

hulk would utterly destroy him

Movie hulk tanked a nuke.

Any incarnation would win.

Remember that scene in which John's foster Father is drinking milk out of the cartoon and the T-1000 kills him when he opens his mouth...well, now picture the typical Hulk yelling his mouth out....




Hulk: "HULK SMASHES PUNY METAL GOO WOBOT!!!!!!"

*T-1000 lances his blade at Hulks wide open mouth*

Hulk: "URGGHH!!! MY MOUTH IS BLEEDS"

T-1000: How you like the taste of my LONG and SHARP shlong...byotch!"





313

Is this a joke.

Any version of Hulk (movie/comic) 10/10 easily.

Originally posted by Decepticon
Is this a joke.

Any version of Hulk (movie/comic) 10/10 easily.

How does movie hulk win this? The guy is liquid metal. Hulk can't do any lasting damage to him. T1000 could just stab his brain or go inside of him and expand. This is either a stalemate or T1000 wins.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
How does movie hulk win this? The guy is liquid metal. Hulk can't do any lasting damage to him. T1000 could just stab his brain or go inside of him and expand. This is either a stalemate or T1000 wins.
comic hulk could BFR him

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
How does movie hulk win this? The guy is liquid metal. Hulk can't do any lasting damage to him. T1000 could just stab his brain or go inside of him and expand. This is either a stalemate or T1000 wins.

Yeah, it's essentially fighting a symbiote suit like carnage whom doesn't need a host and has little to no weakness. The Hulks innards cannot be incased like "the thing". If T-1000 got inside of him it would be game over. Personally, i see it being a stalemate.

It would be very hard for the t-1000 to immerse himself inside of the Hulk and his formed blades probably can't penetrate the Hulks skin. The t-1000 may be able to try and suffocate the hulk, but the Hulk would just mash him up. Hulk either gets tired and deforms back into Banner or gets lucky and knocks t-1000 into some type of liquid nitrogen storage facility or metal works.

Originally posted by ragesRemorse
Yeah, it's essentially fighting a symbiote suit like carnage whom doesn't need a host and has little to no weakness. The Hulks innards cannot be incased like "the thing". If T-1000 got inside of him it would be game over. Personally, i see it being a stalemate.

It would be very hard for the t-1000 to immerse himself inside of the Hulk and his formed blades probably can't penetrate the Hulks skin. The t-1000 may be able to try and suffocate the hulk, but the Hulk would just mash him up. Hulk either gets tired and deforms back into Banner or gets lucky and knocks t-1000 into some type of liquid nitrogen storage facility or metal works.

Agreed, they are fighting in a city so there would more than likely be no nitro or molten lava so this is a stalemate. Hulk can't really hurt this guy. Neither could comic Hulk seeing as he hasn't fought anything like him before.

... What? Either version would win without difficulty.

Hulk picks up the Terminator and throws him into another state.

QED.

Terminator walks back and tries again and again and again. Another state...,maybe half a city block.

Couldn't the Hulk just throw the T-1000 into space. I'm come on now I'm pretty sure the Hulk has done something like that to one of his opponents.

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
Remember that scene in which John's foster Father is drinking milk out of the cartoon and the T-1000 kills him when he opens his mouth...well, now picture the typical Hulk yelling his mouth out....



Tank rounds don't penetrate the Hulk, what makes you think the T-1000 has enough power to cut through the Hulk?

(Besides you being an avid anti-Hulk guy, of course)

Originally posted by Bloinky
Couldn't the Hulk just throw the T-1000 into space. I'm come on now I'm pretty sure the Hulk has done something like that to one of his opponents.

In 1997 he threw (pre-crisis) Superman into space.

Originally posted by Robtard
Tank rounds don't penetrate the Hulk, what makes you think the T-1000 has enough power to cut through the Hulk?

(Besides you being an avid anti-Hulk guy, of course)

Tank rounds are more of bludgeoning and explosive force. Hulk hase been cut before many times by Wolverine, Deadpool and others.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Tank rounds are more of bludgeoning and explosive force. Hulk hase been cut before many times by Wolverine, Deadpool and others.

With Adamantium, right? They were also superficial wounds for the most part, as those doing the cutting, though strong, they didn't have the strength needed to completely cut through Hulk's muscle and bone mass. Even the sharpest sword won't behead a bull if the person wielding the sword isn't strong enough to cut through all that tissue, muscle and bone.

I believe some speedster(?) gutted the Hulk once, using a combo of an adamantium edge combined with super-speed. i.e. F=ma is what was able to penetrate the Hulk's skin in that instance.

Edit: One thing of note on the tank rounds, in the Ang-Hulk movie, the second tank fired and completely went through the first tank's turrent that the Hulk tried to use as a shield and nailed Hulk in the pectoral, yet it was little more than a nuisance to him. That had to be a depleted uranium armour piercing round, ie not blugeoning, it's a uranium spike made to go through armour and ignite any explosives/combustibles in enemy tanks.

Wolverine yes, DP no. Base Hulk can easily be cut. He'll heal right afterwards but he can be cut. Also the t1000 is from the future so I think its safe to say that he isn't regualr old standard metal.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Wolverine yes, DP no. Base Hulk can easily be cut. He'll heal right afterwards but he can be cut.

Also the t1000 is from the future so I think its safe to say that he isn't regualr old standard metal.

I'm not saying "Hulk can't be cut", just how deeply/severely he can be cut and the forces and material needed to cut him.

T-1000 isn't anywhere near as durable as Adamantium. A shotgun round was able to break the spike-hook he made when clinging onto the trunk of the police car.

Any spike or blade the T-100 made would break before it cut the Hulk.

Im not dissagreing with anyone but the Hulk could punch squish stomp and destroy him but the T-100 would just reform and it will happen agian agian and agian. Untill he ges tired (if he does im not realy a hulk fan) abd turn back to the guy h actully is and stap he's dead

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Wolverine yes, DP no. Base Hulk can easily be cut. He'll heal right afterwards but he can be cut. Also the t1000 is from the future so I think its safe to say that he isn't regualr old standard metal.

DP would cut Hulk too....even in the comics.

I mean come on! If the friggin pathetic SpeedFreek cut the smarter Hulk back in the 90s I don't see why DP couldn't.

T-1000 could make nifty thin sharp objects.

Hulk's Deep throat on this one.

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
DP would cut Hulk too....even in the comics.

I mean come on! If the friggin pathetic SpeedFreek cut the smarter Hulk back in the 90s I don't see why DP couldn't.

T-1000 could make nifty thin sharp objects.

Hulk's Deep throat on this one.

With Adamantium, yes, the question is, how deeply/severely of a cut? Small wounds won't matter, Hulk would have to be beheaded.

That was a combo of an adamantium edge travelling at super-speeds, did you not follow?

Which aren't strong enough to survive a shotgun blast, ergo, they'll break before they cut the Hulk. See?

How again?

Originally posted by Bloinky
Couldn't the Hulk just throw the T-1000 into space. I'm come on now I'm pretty sure the Hulk has done something like that to one of his opponents.

No

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
DP would cut Hulk too....even in the comics.

I mean come on! If the friggin pathetic SpeedFreek cut the smarter Hulk back in the 90s I don't see why DP couldn't.

T-1000 could make nifty thin sharp objects.

Hulk's Deep throat on this one.

No I was saying that DP cut him without adamantium.

Originally posted by Robtard
With Adamantium, yes, the question is, how deeply/severely of a cut? Small wounds won't matter, Hulk would have to be beheaded.

That was a combo of an adamantium edge travelling at super-speeds, did you not follow?

Which aren't strong enough to survive a shotgun blast, ergo, they'll break before they cut the Hulk. See?

How again?

WD's biased hate for the Hulk, combined with the biased hate of 90% of the comic forum, will be enough to destroy him.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
No I was saying that DP cut him without adamantium.

Yeah, I can agree...

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
DP would cut Hulk too....even in the comics.

I mean come on! If the friggin pathetic SpeedFreek cut the smarter Hulk back in the 90s I don't see why DP couldn't.

T-1000 could make nifty thin sharp objects.

Hulk's Deep throat on this one.

Speedfreek cut him, do you know what happened after?

Speedfreek didn't win the fight.

Hulk has, to my recollection, beat Ultron. Ultron is a robot composed mostly of adamantium.

Why are people insisting a robot can beat Hulk?

Oh, it's not "people". It's WrathfulDwarf.

Let's test the water; who would win, you or Hulk?

-AC

Hulk does what Arnie did to the T1000 in T2 only a hell of alot more easily.

T1000 couldnt even keep up with a car - how does he compare in any physical sense with one of Marvel's top powerhouses?

Originally posted by ragesRemorse
No


And why is that?

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Speedfreek cut him, do you know what happened after?

Speedfreek didn't win the fight.

Hulk has, to my recollection, beat Ultron. Ultron is a robot composed mostly of adamantium.

Why are people insisting a robot can beat Hulk?

Oh, it's not "people". It's WrathfulDwarf.

Let's test the water; who would win, you or Hulk?

-AC

This isn't some simple robot. This is a robot from the future, that can shapeshift and assume the identity of whoever it pleases, it's composed of some unknown type of regenerating liquid metal and his only known weakness was molten lava which in this scenario there is none.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
This isn't some simple robot. This is a robot from the future, that can shapeshift and assume the identity of whoever it pleases, it's composed of some unknown type of regenerating liquid metal and his only known weakness was molten lava which in this scenario there is none.

Actually, the freezing aspect also caused it some damage(in the director's cut), but that's irrelevant too, as the Hulk doesn't have a 'freeze attack'.

What's relevant though, the T-1000 has no way of bringing down the Hulk, it can only make sharp objects as weapons, which aren't strong enough to cut the Hulk, 'future metal' or no and it's physical strength while impressive compared to a human's, isn't anywhere near what the Hulk can generate, it would litterally be silly-puddy in Hulk's hands.

So it's a one-sided fight and just a manner of time until the Hulk is able to do something to win. What that may be, I'm not certain, probably what someone said early on in the thread, Hulk gets so angry because his foe keeps reforming and musters enough strength to toss it into space.

HULK SMASH

HULK FIGHT ROBOT

HULK MAD

I think HULK wins this one.

There is actually a source of heat that hulk can use which will do much better than the lava....it's called the sun...it's in space You do the math

Has Movie Hulk ever resorted to such tactics?

Is this a joke battle?

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
This isn't some simple robot. This is a robot from the future, that can shapeshift and assume the identity of whoever it pleases, it's composed of some unknown type of regenerating liquid metal and his only known weakness was molten lava which in this scenario there is none.

Really? Because I could have sworn Sarah Connor tricked it into crawling through a pressing machine, and crushing it to death.

Point proven, fight over.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Really? Because I could have sworn Sarah Connor tricked it into crawling through a pressing machine, and crushing it to death.

Point proven, fight over.

-AC

Well I guess you've sworn wrong because he died by falling in the lava so he couldn't have gotten crushed to death. Besides Sarah is smarter than Hulk.

Look at 7:30

HWz8AeB9nnc

Point disproven, fight over.

-WP

...

It's hilarious that biased Hulk haters have yet to come up with a counter-argument for the Hulk throwing the Terminator into ****ing space.

That's because there is none. Hulk beats the Terminator 11/10 times with ease. The end. OMG SHAYPE SHAFT! ... who cares? Hulk doesn't.

Actually...I don't see the Hulk throwing the Terminator into space because as soon as he tries to grab it, it will flow through his fingers. The Hulk will keep trying to grab something, he'll keep failing, and this will serve to further enrage him. At some point the Hulk will get so pissed, that (as I first mentioned) he will either thunderclap or more likely smash his fists into the ground: either tactic will generate shock waves sufficient to disperse the nanites/Terminator molecules/whatever all over the friggin' place.

Now fights over.

There is also the issue that Hulk isn't protecting John Connor. The T-1000 would not be interested in fighting Hulk. So he would just by pass Hulk and go directly to John. Since the Hulk is pretty stupid he most likely thunderclap and eventually kill John and harming the T-1000. He would be doing the Terminator a favor.

Hulk is smart.

....




Keep in mind the purpose of the T-1000 is solely to kill John by any means necessary.

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
There is also the issue that Hulk isn't protecting John Connor. The T-1000 would not be interested in fighting Hulk. So he would just by pass Hulk and go directly to John. Since the Hulk is pretty stupid he most likely thunderclap and eventually kill John and harming the T-1000. He would be doing the Terminator a favor.

Hulk is smart.

Keep in mind the purpose of the T-1000 is solely to kill John by any means necessary.

Your comprehension skills are lacking, I'd go back to the first post and reread.

Originally posted by Mindship
Actually...I don't see the Hulk throwing the Terminator into space because as soon as he tries to grab it, it will flow through his fingers. The Hulk will keep trying to grab something, he'll keep failing, and this will serve to further enrage him. At some point the Hulk will get so pissed, that (as I first mentioned) he will either thunderclap or more likely smash his fists into the ground: either tactic will generate shock waves sufficient to disperse the nanites/Terminator molecules/whatever all over the friggin' place.

Now fights over.

When's the Terminator ever done that? I honestly don't think it'd react fast enough to avoid getting tossed. The Hulk isn't exactly slow, considering he catches missles at point blank range and dodges attack helicopters...

Originally posted by Final Blaxican
When's the Terminator ever done that? I honestly don't think it'd react fast enough to avoid getting tossed. The Hulk isn't exactly slow, considering he catches missles at point blank range and dodges attack helicopters... If the T-1000 can flow through jail bars, it can flow through fingers; this is perfectly compatible with the powerset. And it reacted pretty darn quickly when it skewered John Connor's foster dad. Plus, the Hulk did have a hard time fighting his own dad as a liquidy being. Still, you may have some point with the Hulk's speed...yeah, I can see the T being tossed. But typically, when bricks fight liquid beings, it's often depicted how brute force is virtually helpless against a foe which can't be easily grabbed.

That's a good point, I'd forgotten about the jail bars.

The T-1000 tanked punches and such from Arnold though, who doesn't really move that fast himself. I dnno...

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
There is also the issue that Hulk isn't protecting John Connor. The T-1000 would not be interested in fighting Hulk. So he would just by pass Hulk and go directly to John. Since the Hulk is pretty stupid he most likely thunderclap and eventually kill John and harming the T-1000. He would be doing the Terminator a favor.

Hulk is smart.

....




Keep in mind the purpose of the T-1000 is solely to kill John by any means necessary.

Wow, just plain wow. Since when does John Connor come into key for this fight.

There is also the scene where Arnold (800 series for your T fans) took a clean shot at the face of the T-1000 and he shape shifted just to grab his arm...I almost forgot that scene.


Originally posted by Bloinky
Since when does John Connor come into key for this fight.

Ever since the T-1000 was originally writen....you do know that the character was writen specifically to kill John and that is his only purpose of existence, right?

Basically, T-1000 would only fight Hulk IF he was protecting John. If Hulks isn't protecting John....I doubt he would even take on the Green Bulk...I mean Hulk.

Do you actually do this to be funny, or do you genuinely hate Hulk so much as to argue that the Terminator could beat him?

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Well I guess you've sworn wrong because he died by falling in the lava so he couldn't have gotten crushed to death. Besides Sarah is smarter than Hulk.

Look at 7:30

HWz8AeB9nnc

Point disproven, fight over.

-WP

What? You've seen Terminator, right? When he's chasing her and Reese through the factory and gets crushed?

He only put himself into the lava because it was a surefire way the chip could be destroyed without being repaired, not because that's the only way to kill it.

-AC

The fight is Hulk Vs. the T-1000, not Arnold Terminator.

Either way, the T-1000 has no way of bringing down the Hulk, let alone doing more than superfical damage.

Do you actually do this to be funny, or do you genuinely hate Terminator so much as to argue that the Hulk could outright beat him?

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri




What? You've seen Terminator, right? When he's chasing her and Reese through the factory and gets crushed?

He only put himself into the lava because it was a surefire way the chip could be destroyed without being repaired, not because that's the only way to kill it.

-AC


She never crushed the T1000, I'm guessing that you didn't read the OP and just assumed that they meant Arnold who would lose so bad that he would get zero-shotted against Hulk. I said that this was a stalemate seeing as the T1000 can't do any long lasting damage to Hulk and since Hulk can't really hurt T1000. His only means of victory is through BFR. If BFR is on then Hulk wins 10/10. True I'm no Hulk fan but I don't hate on his abilities and stuff. Movie Hulk, who is being debated, not comic hulk so his feats against robots is negated, has notshown the intelligence to just go for a BFR.

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
There is also the scene where Arnold (800 series for your T fans) took a clean shot at the face of the T-1000 and he shape shifted just to grab his arm...I almost forgot that scene.




Ever since the T-1000 was originally writen....you do know that the character was writen specifically to kill John and that is his only purpose of existence, right?

Basically, T-1000 would only fight Hulk IF he was protecting John. If Hulks isn't protecting John....I doubt he would even take on the Green Bulk...I mean Hulk.

I'm pretty sure that the T-1000 would try to terminate the Hulk, if the T-1000 scans Hulk as a threat to him. And yes I know this sounds like an opinion. But yeah in the Sarah Connor Cronnicles, Cameron attacks a T-888 that was just sitting inbetween a wall and yes the T-888 fights back.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Do you actually do this to be funny, or do you genuinely hate Terminator so much as to argue that the Hulk could outright beat him?




She never crushed the T1000, I'm guessing that you didn't read the OP and just assumed that they meant Arnold who would lose so bad that he would get zero-shotted against Hulk. I said that this was a stalemate seeing as the T1000 can't do any long lasting damage to Hulk and since Hulk can't really hurt T1000. His only means of victory is through BFR. If BFR is on then Hulk wins 10/10. True I'm no Hulk fan but I don't hate on his abilities and stuff. Movie Hulk, who is being debated, not comic hulk so his feats against robots is negated, has notshown the intelligence to just go for a BFR.

The T-1000 has absolutely no chance to win here. The Hulk has a few options.

Movie Hulk wasn't an idiot, he was smart and cunning. After he grabbed the missile, he bite off the warhead and spit it at the attack-copter, that isn't something a stupid rampaging beast would do.

Originally posted by Robtard
The T-1000 has absolutely no chance to win here. The Hulk has a few options.

Movie Hulk wasn't an idiot, he was smart and cunning. After he grabbed the missile, he bite off the warhead and spit it at the attack-copter, that isn't something a stupid rampaging beast would do.

That isn't necessarily smart and cunning. I'm going to need more proof that Movie Hulk wasn't an idiot like almost all versions of Hulk.

Almost all versions of Hulk are idiots?

I've read Hulk since I was five and I'm not aware of that.

Proof?

-AC

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
That isn't necessarily smart and cunning. I'm going to need more proof that Movie Hulk wasn't an idiot...
Biting off the warhead and spitting it back at the copter definitely showed...
1. an understanding of the threat against him (as well as remarkably accurate expectoration skill), and...
2. a clever means of retaliation (ie, using your foe's weapons against him; he did this more than once--see below with the tank).

The Hulk overloading his dad at the end of the film also showed some tactical wherewithall for defeating a being which could not be vanquished with brute bodily force.

Movie Hulk raged like a man-monster through most his showings, but glimmers of intelligence definitely showed now and then. Another was when he bent the tank's cannon back at the soldier. I think that even showed a sardonic sense of humor on the Hulk's part ("Hulk wants to see you fire Big Gun now, puny human."

The Hulk is a down to earth raging idiot. No wasting time disputing that....Dr. Bruce Banner on the other hand is very much the opposite. He's a brilliant scientist and a character that is very much well liked.

Anytime you see Hulk show some traits of intelligence is because of Banner trying to control the monster. Not directly the Hulk...remember the Hulk is nothing but a product of an accident.

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
The Hulk is a down to earth raging idiot. No wasting time disputing that....Dr. Bruce Banner on the other hand is very much the opposite. He's a brilliant scientist and a character that is very much well liked.

Anytime you see Hulk show some traits of intelligence is because of Banner trying to control the monster. Not directly the Hulk...remember the Hulk is nothing but a product of an accident.

Must you really do that, I know you love to hate on Hulk when AC is around, but at least do it intelligently.

People have posted valid examples that Hulk isn't a drooling idiot. If anything, counter those examples to prove your rants.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
That isn't necessarily smart and cunning. I'm going to need more proof that Movie Hulk wasn't an idiot like almost all versions of Hulk.

Then what was it? Just dumb luck that he happened to recognize a threat, then just happened to bite off the business-end of that threat and use it back at his foe?

That scene clearly shows intelligence and cunning, the later is something Hulk is especially known for in the comics.

Either way, as stated before, T-1000 has no way to win, while the Hulk has options. So debating against Hulk is foolish in this fight.

It's ok, Robtard.

WrathfulDwarf is just being uneducated and immaturely antagonistic. Unfortunately for him, he doesn't make me look bad, just himself look worse. It's actually just over the line of being entertaining now, it's just pitiful, the hate for a fictional character.

Why do you think he never replies to me? Because he's never once been capable of defeating an argument of mine, or anybody's.

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
The Hulk is a down to earth raging idiot. No wasting time disputing that....Dr. Bruce Banner on the other hand is very much the opposite. He's a brilliant scientist and a character that is very much well liked.

Anytime you see Hulk show some traits of intelligence is because of Banner trying to control the monster. Not directly the Hulk...remember the Hulk is nothing but a product of an accident.

Hulk himself has had multiple incarnations whereby he has retained unimaginable strength and been competent enough to have conversations and form battle strategies.

Whether it's Banner's mind inside Hulk's body or not, it's still Hulk at that point in time. He stops being Banner when he becomes big and green.

I know you don't know much about Hulk besides the heyday of Jack Kirby, but at least keep up. Rejecting everything since would be like saying Batman is shit unless written by Bob Kane.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Almost all versions of Hulk are idiots?

I've read Hulk since I was five and I'm not aware of that.

Proof?

-AC

Mindless
Savage
Grey-Yes Joe can talk but he is no genius.
War Hulk

Smart versions
Phulk
WWH

Maestro doesn't count seeing as he is an alternate version of Hulk.

Originally posted by Robtard
Must you really do that, I know you love to hate on Hulk when AC is around, but at least do it intelligently.

People have posted valid examples that Hulk isn't a drooling idiot. If anything, counter those examples to prove your rants.

It is true. THe more influence Banner has on Hulk, the smarter he is but the weaker he is and vice versa. Only time that wasn't was with WWH.

Hulk is never "weaker", just less unhinged and thus, less likely to get madder and then stronger.

He still has enough controlled strength to beat most people in a fist fight.

Wait, why are idiots considering that this is a credible thread? This is why the Vs Forum failed. People could come up with the most mismatched of fights, but if one person repeated a dumb opinion enough, people would start deeming it acceptable.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Mindless
Savage
Grey-Yes Joe can talk but he is no genius.
War Hulk

He doesn't need to be a genius. There's a massive gap between genius and idiot.

Joe is sly and the rest aren't "idiots", just maniacs. There's a chasm of difference.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Smart versions
Phulk
WWH

Maestro doesn't count seeing as he is an alternate version of Hulk.

They're all alternative versions of Hulk, in a way.

Secondly, despite me having proven your argument wrong; let's go with World War Hulk, then.

You're suggesting he would lose this fight? Are we descending that far into blind Hulk-hate?

-AC

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
It is true. THe more influence Banner has on Hulk, the smarter he is but the weaker he is and vice versa. Only time that wasn't was with WWH.

I used a verifiable example from the movie(as you said this is movie Hulk) to prove he has both intelligence and cunning, yet you ignore and continue the nonsense. Why do you do that?

What's especially funny, this is no longer a Vs. fight, as there isn't anything anyone can (intelligently) bring up where the T-1000 would win here, nothing, so it's turned into a "lets point out made-up flaws about the Hulk" argument. Fine, the Hulk is a drooling fool, yet he wins this fight easy.

Originally posted by Robtard
I used a verifiable example from the movie(as you said this is movie Hulk) to prove he has both intelligence and cunning, yet you ignore and continue the nonsense. Why do you do that?

What's especially funny, this is no longer a Vs. fight, as there isn't anything anyone can (intelligently) bring up where the T-1000 would win here, nothing, so it's turned into a "lets point out made-up flaws about the Hulk" argument. Fine, the Hulk is a drooling fool, yet he wins this fight easy.

Biting something and spitting it back isn't really cunning and smart when the same monster yells at thunder and his chick has to calm him down.

I have already said this is a stalemate.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Hulk is never "weaker", just less unhinged and thus, less likely to get madder and then stronger.

He still has enough controlled strength to beat most people in a fist fight.

Wait, why are idiots considering that this is a credible thread? This is why the Vs Forum failed. People could come up with the most mismatched of fights, but if one person repeated a dumb opinion enough, people would start deeming it acceptable.



He doesn't need to be a genius. There's a massive gap between genius and idiot.

Joe is sly and the rest aren't "idiots", just maniacs. There's a chasm of difference.



They're all alternative versions of Hulk, in a way.

Secondly, despite me having proven your argument wrong; let's go with World War Hulk, then.

You're suggesting he would lose this fight? Are we descending that far into blind Hulk-hate?

-AC

1. His base strength is dependant on which incarnation of Hulk it is like Fixit being the weakest who is only a B-List brawler and can't even contend with the Class 100s like Ms. Marvel, Juggernaut, Titannus or Sentry.

2. They are idiots. The Juggernaut is a maniac, he can speak clearly, and is aware of his actions and his opponents, yet he is an unrelenting physical force of power.

Savage Hulk "Hulk not, bag of hammers!" something he said after Rulk compared his intelligence to a bag of hammers.

Throwing Juggernaut and only having his helmet left in his hands deduces that he just ripped the guys head off, thinking that the helmet in his hands was his head this entire time. Having to be tricked into breaking someone's armor, having to be taunted into bracing a mountain. The same Hulk that got punched by Captain Britain and started crying. Idiots can't speak a complete sentence, maniacs can. Carnage is a maniac.

3. They aren't alternate versions seeing as they are all a part of his 616 continuity. Maestro isn't because he comes from a different timeline. Alternate versions in the comic world does not mean a different persona or anything of the sort.

Secondly I thought I proved you wrong seeing as I had to correct you on who we were debating about. Also I thing WWH would BFR T1000 10/10 because he is smart and strong. Never said WWH would lose so don't try to put words in my mouth or bring up Hulk's strongest incarnation to justify a win here when movie Hulk should be the one being debated.

Why is it a stalemate? Because you can't accept that Hulk would win?

Dumbest comeback ever. "That's not smart because he also did something dumb.". You could go and get a science degree, but these posts would still be dumb.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
1. His base strength is dependant on which incarnation of Hulk it is like Fixit being the weakest who is only a B-List brawler and can't even contend with the Class 100s like Ms. Marvel, Juggernaut, Titannus or Sentry.

2. They are idiots. The Juggernaut is a maniac, he can speak clearly, and is aware of his actions and his opponents, yet he is an unrelenting physical force of power.

Savage Hulk "Hulk not, bag of hammers!" something he said after Rulk compared his intelligence to a bag of hammers.

Throwing Juggernaut and only having his helmet left in his hands deduces that he just ripped the guys head off, thinking that the helmet in his hands was his head this entire time. Having to be tricked into breaking someone's armor, having to be taunted into bracing a mountain. The same Hulk that got punched by Captain Britain and started crying. Idiots can't speak a complete sentence, maniacs can. Carnage is a maniac.

3. They aren't alternate versions seeing as they are all a part of his 616 continuity. Maestro isn't because he comes from a different timeline. Alternate versions in the comic world does not mean a different persona or anything of the sort.

Maestro is considered, by the community of readers, to be an alternative Hulk, in a broad sense, first off.

Hulk not being logical doesn't mean he's an "idiot" though. He is battle smart, he knows precisely what he needs to know about how to beat someone. The T-1000 does nothing outside of its mission, it's simple minded, it isn't even MINDED. It doesn't necessarily have a mind, so is it also an idiot?

Regardless, this is off topic as it's comics. We're discussing movie, that's my bad.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Secondly I thought I proved you wrong seeing as I had to correct you on who we were debating about. Also I thing WWH would BFR T1000 10/10 because he is smart and strong. Never said WWH would lose so don't try to put words in my mouth or bring up Hulk's strongest incarnation to justify a win here when movie Hulk should be the one being debated.

How is that proving me wrong? WE got side-tracked.

There have been plenty of arguments here that counter YOUR arguments and the arguments of others regarding Movie Hulk's intellect, fact. You consider it a stalemate because you just don't agree, but it's fact. It's not disagreeable.

-AC

Slow night tonight...so I went back to my old box of comics from the Hulk.


As said before Banner>>>>>The Hulk.

http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/2438/bannerpq9.jpg

Well what do you know? The Bloody Speedfreak putting the hurt on TEH HULK!

http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/4527/speedfreekyw9.jpg

Remember earlier when I said Hulk is so friggin stupid he would just open his mouth and the T-1000 would deep throat him with a blade. Here you go (that's the smart Hulk...now picture the idiotic Hulk)

http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/6787/sabrace2.jpg

Good night and Happy New Year EVERYONE!

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
Slow night tonight...so I went back to my old box of comics from the Hulk.


As said before Banner>>>>>The Hulk.

http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/2438/bannerpq9.jpg

Well what do you know? The Bloody Speedfreak putting the hurt on TEH HULK!

http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/4527/speedfreekyw9.jpg

Remember earlier when I said Hulk is so friggin stupid he would just open his mouth and the T-1000 would deep throat him with a blade. Here you go (that's the smart Hulk...now picture the idiotic Hulk)

http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/6787/sabrace2.jpg

Good night and Happy New Year EVERYONE!

That's off topic, we're discussing movies.

First, Banner isn't better than Hulk is he? Let's be honest.

Secondly, way to prove how massively uneducated you are. Speedfreek fought him, sliced his stomach open, then what? Hulk held his guts in, healed over his own hand. Ripped it out, re-healed and then beat Speedfreek within an inch of his life.

That last frame doesn't prove a lack of intellect. Professor Hulk is Banner's pure mind, so you can't say Banner rules and then say he's an idiot.

Did you ignore that or do you have the world's largest collection of pages where Hulk LOOKS like he's being beat?

How pathetic. A box of comics regarding a character you try to pick apart and assassinate at every opportunity.

I wish I could save you, but unfortunately you're just too far gone now, frail and really pitiful. Like a cancer patient.

And still, I've received no reply from you, and no counter argument, on topic about Movie Hulk Vs the T-1000.

T-1000 wouldn't win, ever. Nobody has any reason to why he should or could.

So now, do your job like the moderator you still are, and stop posting off-topic spam. You obviously didn't quit like you said you would, so either do the job or don't. You set the single poorest example of anybody.

-AC

Why are you arguing with him, he's just posting incoherent babble to bait and troll you.

And this should probably be in the movie VS Forum.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Biting something and spitting it back isn't really cunning and smart when the same monster yells at thunder and his chick has to calm him down.

I have already said this is a stalemate.



He specifically bite off the warhead, you know, the part that goes boom. Clearly showed intelligence, cunning and battle savvy. Do you seriously think it was just a raging idiot who just happened to get lucky?<--- please answer this. The scene with the tanks is another example of intelligence, cunning and battle savvy.

And you have yet to back it up. The T-1000 has no way of bringing down the Hulk, let alone seriously harming him. The Hulk with his ever increasing power the longer he fights/madder he gets, has options which could end the fight.

Unless you have something to counter that, stop making unfounded remarks and just accept that it's a one-sided fight with the Hulk having the ability to win.

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
Slow night tonight...so I went back to my old box of comics from the Hulk.


As said before Banner>>>>>The Hulk.

http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/2438/bannerpq9.jpg

Well what do you know? The Bloody Speedfreak putting the hurt on TEH HULK!

http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/4527/speedfreekyw9.jpg

Remember earlier when I said Hulk is so friggin stupid he would just open his mouth and the T-1000 would deep throat him with a blade. Here you go (that's the smart Hulk...now picture the idiotic Hulk)

http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/6787/sabrace2.jpg

Good night and Happy New Year EVERYONE!

Comic Hulk isn't being debated here and everyone knows that Banner isn't better than Hulk, if he was then he would have no problem controlling him also, that is Professor Hulk that is losing which is his 2nd weakest incarnation and not the normal savage one.

Originally posted by Robtard
He specifically bite off the warhead, you know, the part that goes boom. Clearly showed intelligence, cunning and battle savvy. Do you seriously think it was just a raging idiot who just happened to get lucky?<--- please answer this. The scene with the tanks is another example of intelligence, cunning and battle savvy.

And you have yet to back it up. The T-1000 has no way of bringing down the Hulk, let alone seriously harming him. The Hulk with his ever increasing power the longer he fights/madder he gets, has options which could end the fight.

Unless you have something to counter that, stop making unfounded remarks and just accept that it's a one-sided fight with the Hulk having the ability to win.

I'm just saying that he also has parts that counter his intelligence like yelling at thunder and not knowing what it is. Betty had to calm him down when he heard it. What genius do you know that screams at thunder?

I've already stated that this is a stalemate seeing as neither can seriously hurt the other. Hulk's punches won't do much and his only means of victory is BFR for Hulk and T1000's only means of victory is outsmarting him which he could do. I kind of think he could just liquify and enter his body and kill him from there, but that is a little extreme so I'm not going to stress that point. Hulk's strength is not the key factor in this fight, he is fighting regenerating liquid metal that has no sense of pain unless he is getting burned. He can punch him all day and he'll just regenerate.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Why is it a stalemate? Because you can't accept that Hulk would win?

Dumbest comeback ever. "That's not smart because he also did something dumb.". You could go and get a science degree, but these posts would still be dumb.



Maestro is considered, by the community of readers, to be an alternative Hulk, in a broad sense, first off.

Hulk not being logical doesn't mean he's an "idiot" though. He is battle smart, he knows precisely what he needs to know about how to beat someone. The T-1000 does nothing outside of its mission, it's simple minded, it isn't even MINDED. It doesn't necessarily have a mind, so is it also an idiot?

Regardless, this is off topic as it's comics. We're discussing movie, that's my bad.



How is that proving me wrong? WE got side-tracked.

There have been plenty of arguments here that counter YOUR arguments and the arguments of others regarding Movie Hulk's intellect, fact. You consider it a stalemate because you just don't agree, but it's fact. It's not disagreeable.

-AC

I already stated that Maestro is an alternative version of Hulk. I'm not disagreeing there. I also stated why this is a stalemate.

Now you've changed it, never said 'Hulk is a genius', just that he has intelligence, which I supported with certain scenes of the movie. Besides, there's a huge area between mindless animal and genius. Could the Hulk play a game of chess? No. Is the Hulk smart enough/cunning enough to outwit his opponents? Yes, he has shown that.

What scenario could the T-1000 do in outsmarting Hulk that could bring him down?

How is he going to kill him from the inside, when the edged weapons he makes aren't strong enough to cut the Hulk? You can argue that the Hulk's internals are weaker than his skin, sure, but are they weak enough considering the Hulk survived a gamma (nuclear+) bomb? There's also the chance that the Hulk's digestive acids could destroy the T-1000.

Yeah, but the Hulk has possible options, while the T-1000 has none. HE could throw the T-1000 into orbit, which would freeze it. He could clap/pound the ground so hard the vibrations destroy whatever technology holds it together. We're talking about a being with ever increasing strength the longer he fights.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Comic Hulk isn't being debated here and everyone knows that Banner isn't better than Hulk, if he was then he would have no problem controlling him also, that is Professor Hulk that is losing which is his 2nd weakest incarnation and not the normal savage one.

But you guys did touch on certain aspects of the Hulk's comics. All I did was to provide some visuals of his blunders. Besides you guys were talking different versions of the Hulk which do come from the comics. Do acknowledge you guys are discussing the comic version of Hulk.

I will, at this time remind that if the Hulk isn't protecting Connor then the T-1000 wouldn't even bother to fight the Hulk. Now, for the sake of argument let's say Hulk IS protecting Connor. Well, it would be scenario much similar to when Hulk is protecting Rick Jones. Despite Hulk's massive strength I doubt he would protect Connor properly.

In any case T-1000 would find a way to kill Connor. Once Connor is death...the T-1000 accomplish his mission. Either self destruct or shut down permanently.

Again, re-read the first post, this is simply a Vs fight, no protection of people, missions and whatnot.

Reading comprehension is key.

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
But you guys did touch on certain aspects of the Hulk's comics. All I did was to provide some visuals of his blunders. Besides you guys were talking different versions of the Hulk which do come from the comics. Do acknowledge you guys are discussing the comic version of Hulk.

I will, at this time remind that if the Hulk isn't protecting Connor then the T-1000 wouldn't even bother to fight the Hulk. Now, for the sake of argument let's say Hulk IS protecting Connor. Well, it would be scenario much similar to when Hulk is protecting Rick Jones. Despite Hulk's massive strength I doubt he would protect Connor properly.

In any case T-1000 would find a way to kill Connor. Once Connor is death...the T-1000 accomplish his mission. Either self destruct or shut down permanently. You are changing the scenario. I guess what might put you at ease would be if you imagined that the T-1000 was going after Hulk...which is basically what this thread is asking.

Glad I could help. You, now, should move the thread to the Movie Vs. Forum, where it belongs.

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
But you guys did touch on certain aspects of the Hulk's comics. All I did was to provide some visuals of his blunders.

Think about that.

We got off-topically side-tracked, and you spent time going through your boxes of comics to scan and upload images of a few "blunders". One of which was a fight he went on to emphatically win.

The hate is getting out of hand.

-AC

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
What genius do you know that screams at thunder?

I know Hawking's voicebox gets a bit of interference.

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
I know Hawking's voicebox gets a bit of interference.

Thou hath owned me.

Moved to the appropriate forum.

Originally posted by Impediment
Moved to the appropriate forum.

You Power Hawk...grabbing whatever thread you can, aren't you!!!

1. How does a brick "beat" a puddle of metal liquid that can reform indefinitely?

2. When has the Hulk shown that he can BFR someone to the Sun?

3. How does one grab liquid?

4. The Terminator can go on forever, but the Hulk will eventually tire or revert. The Terminator also does not feel pain and will never slow down.

Just curious, how much of the last 5 pages have you read?

Actually as far as I remember all it took was the T-1000 falling into molten metal...and I don't think it is known whether that is the only way it can be destroyed. And even then. If the Terminator could destroy it, I think Hulk will have a very, very fair chance.

Originally posted by Final Blaxican
Just curious, how much of the last 5 pages have you read?

First few, then skimmed the rest.

Don't.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Actually as far as I remember all it took was the T-1000 falling into molten metal...and I don't think it is known whether that is the only way it can be destroyed. And even then. If the Terminator could destroy it, I think Hulk will have a very, very fair chance.

No I'm sure there are a few ways to beat the T-1000. High heat, Extreme low temperatures and also magnetism are a few. The point is though, just pure blunt force trauma will not have any effect as the terminator feels no pain and can reform, or you can think of it as an unlimited healing factor.

Originally posted by Placidity
1. How does a brick "beat" a puddle of metal liquid that can reform indefinitely?

2. When has the Hulk shown that he can BFR someone to the Sun?

3. How does one grab liquid?

4. The Terminator can go on forever, but the Hulk will eventually tire or revert. The Terminator also does not feel pain and will never slow down.

1. That is one of my points. He can't physically beat this guy by pummeling him.

2. Even though this is movie Hulk he is still incredibly strong and the T1000 doesn't weigh that much it seems. If not the sun then another state would do when it comes to BFR.

3. He can't.

4. Extremely high or low temperatures can slow him down, but Hulk has neither, but truth be told T1000 doesn't have many ways of putting the physical beatdown on him either which is why I say this is a stalemate.

Well, strictly speaking, the T-1000 can go on until his power cell runs out, who knows how long that will be, maybe years later. The question is, how long can the Hulk fight for?

Originally posted by Bardock42
You Power Hawk...grabbing whatever thread you can, aren't you!!! Goddamn right, I am. F*ck with me and get a speech impediment like me!

Originally posted by Placidity
Well, strictly speaking, the T-1000 can go on until his power cell runs out, who knows how long that will be, maybe years later. The question is, how long can the Hulk fight for?

Considering he gets stronger every waking moment that a fight goes on, he will eventually become strong enough to either launch the Terminator into the freakin ocean, or do a thunder clap with enough force to destroy the Terminator on a cellular level.

The Hulk doesn't get tired. That's why he can theoretically kill any superhero given enough time. He only gets angrier and stronger, not weaker. As long as the Terminator attacks him he will become stronger, forever.

T-1000 wins. Strength won't stop it. T-1000 can suffocate Hulk or go in his eyes, nose, bladder, ears, or any other body part that can be opened and **** up his insides.

Because the Terminator has shown the intelligence and the ability to do that before.

Doesn't matter. Gamma bombs affect the Hulk on a cellular level yet it didn't kill him. Nothing the Terminator does can beat that in any way possible.

Originally posted by Final Blaxican
or do a thunder clap with enough force to destroy the Terminator on a cellular level.


That's pure speculation that he could do that.

No it's not. The angrier the Hulk becomes the stronger his attacks become. Considering that the thunder clap is in itself a basic form of matter manip, it stands to reason that it would affect essentially liquid metal on a molecular level.

Originally posted by Final Blaxican
Because the Terminator has shown the intelligence and the ability to do that before.

Doesn't matter. Gamma bombs affect the Hulk on a cellular level yet it didn't kill him. Nothing the Terminator does can beat that in any way possible.

That logic isn't right. They are two totally different types of "damage".

Originally posted by Final Blaxican
No it's not. The angrier the Hulk becomes the stronger his attacks become. Considering that the thunder clap is in itself a basic form of matter manip, it stands to reason that it would affect essentially liquid metal on a molecular level.

How is thunder clap matter manip...?

Originally posted by Placidity
That logic isn't right. They are two totally different types of "damage".

Not really, when I say it affects him on a cellular level I'm not talking about radiation. I mean physical damage.




I read about it. It does something to the particles in the air. It's not just a big gust of air.

Ok, I think we're mixing up some comic Hulk in there somewhere though.

How so? Can anyone prove that the Hulk's thunder clap in the movies is different from the one in the comics?

Clapping your hands together causes vibrations to flow out through the air, besides causing a 'gust of wind' affect. Just like stamping your feet on the ground causes vibrations to flow through the area.

Now if we're able to make a wineglass shatter using vibrations from an audio speaker, what could the Hulk do with a clap, ground-pound or foot-stomp once he reaches a heightened level of rage?

No, but the problem is, is it ok to assume they are the same (which they probably are)?

I mean someone with no comic knowledge wouldn't assume that it was.

I also said people were mixing it up because someone previously said Hulk could BFR someone into the sun, which movie version is no where near strong enough to do that.

Also, I don't think the movie version ever depicted that the angrier he gets, the stronger he gets.

I mean, if we can assume that Movie Hulk is capable of doing what comic Hulk can do (Matter Manip thunder clap, potentially unlimited strength/stamina, godly healing factor) , then theres no way Hulk could lose. But it just doesn't feel right to assume these things if the movies did not make a point to show the feats.

Originally posted by Robtard
Clapping your hands together causes vibrations to flow out through the air, besides causing a 'gust of wind' affect. Just like stamping your feet on the ground causes vibrations to flow through the area.

Now if we're able to make a wineglass shatter using vibrations from an audio speaker, what could the Hulk do with a clap, ground-pound or foot-stomp once he reaches a heightened level of rage?

Yes thats IRL, but Blax was saying its more than that, associated with forms of matter manipulation.

Originally posted by Darth Martin
T-1000 wins. Strength won't stop it. T-1000 can suffocate Hulk or go in his eyes, nose, bladder, ears, or any other body part that can be opened and **** up his insides.

The blades it can make aren't strong enough to withstand a shotgun blast, what is it going to do against a being who can take bullets, missiles, bombs and a nuke?

Originally posted by Placidity
Yes thats IRL, but Blax was saying its more than that, associated with forms of matter manipulation.

Vibrations do cause 'matter manipulation', it's the reason the wineglass breaks. It's molecules are forced to move and separate faster and farther than the glass can withstand, ergo it shatters.

edit: should be noted that the T-1000 being liquid-metal, would be exceptionally susceptible to vibrations, would it be enough to damage it? Don't know, but it is something the Hulk has over the T-1000, compared to the nothing the T-1000 has on the Hulk.

Well, you'd actually need the right frequency if you're talknig about the wine glass. The ones that Hulk does exerts force from just pressure waves.

Originally posted by Placidity
Well, you'd actually need the right frequency if you're talknig about the wine glass. The ones that Hulk does exerts force from just pressure waves.

Right frequency or an over-abundance of it. I've seen videos of people with those super-highend sound systems installed in their rides that shatter beer bottles and car windows. You know, the rediculously loud/powerful ones.

edit: the point is, the Hulk has options, T-1000 has none and can only survive, not beat.

Originally posted by Robtard
Right frequency or an over-abundance of it. I've seen videos of people with those super-highend sound systems installed in their rides that shatter beer bottles and car windows. You know, the rediculously loud/powerful ones.


Hmm... Maybe the music playing coincidently matched the bottle's resonance frequency?

Originally posted by Robtard

edit: the point is, the Hulk has options, T-1000 has none and can only survive, not beat.

I agree, though if we allow some speculation, T-1000 does have a slight chance - he could cover the Hulk in liquid form/enter his lungs etc. But then again if we allow Hulk some speculative feats, he could be doing some ridiculous stuff as well.

From just movie feats alone, the real question is whether Hulk can beat a regenerative liquid. I for one, am skeptical.

Why is the burden on Hulk?

Can a regenerative liquid beat Hulk? Why is that not the more pressing question?

If we're saying the T-1000 wouldn't lose cos he can keep coming back, that's faulty, because all that means is that Hulk is continually beating him, just not fatally. Fights don't need to end in death.

Originally posted by Placidity
Also, I don't think the movie version ever depicted that the angrier he gets, the stronger he gets.

It's explicitly said in the first Hulk, by Betty.

"Don't attack him, you'll only fuel his rage and you'll make him stronger.".

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Why is the burden on Hulk?

Can a regenerative liquid beat Hulk? Why is that not the more pressing question?

If we're saying the T-1000 wouldn't lose cos he can keep coming back, that's faulty, because all that means is that Hulk is continually beating him, just not fatally. Fights don't need to end in death.

I've already stated that Terminator won't win. But if Hulk can't put him down for the count either, then its a draw.


Originally posted by Alpha Centauri


It's explicitly said in the first Hulk, by Betty.

"Don't attack him, you'll only fuel his rage and you'll make him stronger.".

-AC

k, my bad.

Originally posted by Placidity
I agree, though if we allow some speculation, T-1000 does have a slight chance - he could cover the Hulk in liquid form/enter his lungs etc. But then again if we allow Hulk some speculative feats, he could be doing some ridiculous stuff as well.


Hulk tossing the thing into orbit and continually smashing it into mush isn't speculation, he clearly has the physical strength and endurance to do either.

The hand clap isn't speculation entirely either (just mostly), we saw the Hulk put out a jet fuel ( probably JP-8) fire with a hand clap, we're just applying physics here on what a hand-clap (vibrations) of that magnitude would do to a being of liquid mass.

Now, the T-1000 covering th Hulk and going into his body is pure speculation, as we didn't see anything close to that ability in the movie. Even so, to being who can withstand a gamma bomb (nuke), I doubt some liquid in the lungs is going to put him down. I could easily make a wild speculation that the Hulk sucks him up, digest it and them takes a really mean metallic dump.

Originally posted by Darth Martin
T-1000 wins. Strength won't stop it. T-1000 can suffocate Hulk or go in his eyes, nose, bladder, ears, or any other body part that can be opened and **** up his insides.

One of the features of the T-1000 is that he can camouflage himself (like he did with the checker tile floor in the hospital) and sneak attack Hulk. It would be a pretty good scene having the T-1000 doing sneek attacks.

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
One of the features of the T-1000 is that he can camouflage himself (like he did with the checker tile floor in the hospital) and sneak attack Hulk. It would be a pretty good scene having the T-1000 doing sneek attacks.

You should really stop trolling. All you're doing is ignoring anything that doesn't fit your bias and rehashing the same failed points, over and over again.

Sure, the T-1000 can "sneak attack", what is it going to do with this attack though? Stab the Hulk and probably break whatever blade it made.

Originally posted by Robtard
I could easily make a wild speculation that the Hulk sucks him up, digest it and them takes a really mean metallic dump.
Which raises an interesting question: are the e. coli in Hulk's intestine's as powerful and ornery as the rest of him? I don't see why not.

Originally posted by Mindship
Which raises an interesting question: are the e. coli in Hulk's intestine's as powerful and ornery as the rest of him? I don't see why not.

Do you mean if they were mutated along with Banner and got Hulk powers?

Otherwise, no...

I seriously doubt The Hulk would eat the T-1000. He most likely will bite him and try to rip apart. Similar to when he fought the Humanoids in the cartoon from the 60s.

Originally posted by Placidity
Do you mean if they were mutated along with Banner and got Hulk powers? Something like that. I mean, why should all the cells in his body mutate but not the e. coli? Heck, could ordinary e. coli even survive inside Hulk bowels? As far as I know, only Hulk pants are immune to mutation.

If the Hulk fails to kill the Terminator on the first attempt, the Terminator could just wait for him to become Banner and shoot him then.

Or alternatively wait for the Hulk/Banner to die of old age.

hulk smashes him up and uses him as boxing gloves like in the recent movie

What's with citing sneak attacks?

Sneak attacks are useful if you only need a single blow to win, thus SNEAK attack and why they are useful.

What would this do to Hulk? He gets in an attack, then Hulk knows he's there, and now they fight. It's been for nothing.

What could the T-1000 actually do that hasn't been done to Hulk? This is all based on "Well...he's liquidy and therefore hard to destroy.". Yeah, so? So what? The task isn't "Survive Hulk" or "Be hard to kill." is it? It's beat Hulk.

How is he going to realistically beat Hulk?

-AC

By having Skynet send the T-1000 wipe Banner out as a child...?

But other than that, I have no other suggestions.

i didn't read all of this thread so i hope nobody has said this before. but hulk eats the t-1000 then eats half a taco john's no way t-1000 is surviving that. Other then that it's a stalemate with hulk have an advantage but unable to kill the t-1000 with out getting lucky. However hulk would not have to be very lucky to hit t-1000 with a gas truck. that should be enough. Also hulk might have the luck of doing a ground smash that opens up some kind of lava flow. without those it's the hulk punching water all day and night.

Excellent sig, by the way.

Hulk smash puny terminator!!

So if hulk throws the Terminator out of the state. It will think that it has defeated him. And turn back into Bruce. Now thw terminator being the machine it is probally would have scanned it and all of its DNA. The terminator would come back find Bruce and kill him before he can go into hulk

Today existing technology features for both wariors are real.
The conclusion is to fusion these features to one ultimate.
Teretorial their is still one of these artificial creatures flying
above our heads in the space living on ISS R2


*****-----
*****-----
------------
------------


stars and stripes bring all existing micro organism still existing to a bio nano cyborg mamut creature into real captured life. This is a fact and the future for a never ending nanobiotechnologicalcyborg circle for all up coming creatures in any form of living at any place not only made from steel but from knowledge and steel.

Whatever Hulk is a mans subconscious destructive tendencies brought out into the physical realm. An unstoppable beast that treats tanks like brittle wood.

Hulk destroys any terminator including T1000 and TX.

This would either be a never ending battle or T-1000 would find away to dominate! What else does hulk have to destroy a TERMINATOR (T-1000) all he can do is smash him into pieces and the T-1000 will reform and be as good as new like nothing happened to him. T-1000 could hide in hulks body and form into a knife or saw and kill hulks living organs and kill him. hulk also gets tired eventualy a T-1000 doesnt get tired or sleep. T-1000 most likely against movie hulk. comic hulks a different story.

Hulk stomps.

It'd be a good fight but in the end i think T-1000 would dominate.

Originally posted by moviefan12
It'd be a good fight but in the end i think T-1000 would dominate. How ?

While it never came up, I think Hulk from the first movie had more definitive strenght feats, especially when he hammer tossed the tank. I know he wasn't a dummy as seen with the missle/warhead incident, plus the concerned look on his face when the jet he rode 'to the top of the world' was about to crash and he jumped on it to save the pilot/bridge.

But he does have two weaknesses that I think the T-1000 could exploit.

He passed out eventually from a lack of oxygen. We didn't see the T-1000 slip inside anyone because this was a tactic that wasn't needed for your normal run of the mill flesh bags. But with all his roaring, its likely that he could be suffocated, and since external attacks would likely fail, the T-1000 may resort to it.

The second possible weakness are the nano-meds. I know the T-X could control other machinery. Could the T-1000 do it? It'd be as certain an end as Surfer sucking the gamma out of comic's Hulk.

I'd give the T-1000 better odds again TIH. But I like the first movie plenty over the first.

Originally posted by quanchi112
How ?

Hulks alot faster than the TERMINATOR T-1000 this is very true,but the T-1000 can hide alot easier. T-1000 can melt and hide in the floor,the ceiling,the toilet,the bathtub,furniture,a car or anywhere. seeing the T-1000 Can melt it could probably get in the hulks mouth and get in his body and bust out of his body with ease. hulk might be superhuman but he's still flesh,blood and muscle at the end of the day. if hulk has no extreme heat to throw the T-1000 in then hulk has no way of defeating the T-1000. so yea i think since the T-1000 can melt it can get in the hulks body while hulks screams like a girl. then clog up hulks oxygen and kill him or as i said. T-1000 can form into a knife and rip hulks heart,liver and all his living organs and kill him.

In my opinion, there is nothing that either combatant can do to each other.

Hulk is, well, Hulk. His sheer mass and body density, not mention his impenatrable skin, is no match for the T-1000. Cutting weapons and the small stature, in comparison, is going to do dick to Hulk.

The T-1000 is a shapeshifter and made of liquid metal. Hulk may very well be able to pound or thunder clap the 1000 into a puddle of goo, but the Terminator will just be able to reassemlbe itself as shown in the steel mill after the liquid nitrogen wore off.

Unless Hulk is in the vicinity of a steel mill to use his breath to push the 1000 into it, then I see this as a horrible stalemate.

Originally posted by Impediment
In my opinion, there is nothing that either combatant can do to each other.

Hulk is, well, Hulk. His sheer mass and body density, not mention his impenatrable skin, is no match for the T-1000. Cutting weapons and the small stature, in comparison, is going to do dick to Hulk.

The T-1000 is a shapeshifter and made of liquid metal. Hulk may very well be able to pound or thunder clap the 1000 into a puddle of goo, but the Terminator will just be able to reassemlbe itself as shown in the steel mill after the liquid nitrogen wore off.

Unless Hulk is in the vicinity of a steel mill to use his breath to push the 1000 into it, then I see this as a horrible stalemate.


I 100% agree with that. we all know the hulk would kill the Arnold T-800 with ease. seing a T-800 could just get his skull and cpu crushed and be killed that easily.

T-1000 is the biggest challenge for the hulk.

This is probably the best debate i've actually seen between two characters. It'd be a real good fight.

Originally posted by moviefan12
Hulks alot faster than the TERMINATOR T-1000 this is very true,but the T-1000 can hide alot easier. T-1000 can melt and hide in the floor,the ceiling,the toilet,the bathtub,furniture,a car or anywhere. seeing the T-1000 Can melt it could probably get in the hulks mouth and get in his body and bust out of his body with ease. hulk might be superhuman but he's still flesh,blood and muscle at the end of the day. if hulk has no extreme heat to throw the T-1000 in then hulk has no way of defeating the T-1000. so yea i think since the T-1000 can melt it can get in the hulks body while hulks screams like a girl. then clog up hulks oxygen and kill him or as i said. T-1000 can form into a knife and rip hulks heart,liver and all his living organs and kill him. I think the T-1000 can't or hasn't shown the power necessary to kill the Hulk and see the T-1000 being eventually taxed to the point of being destroyed.

Originally posted by quanchi112
T-1000 being eventually taxed to the point of being destroyed.

If anything the Hulk will revert back to Banner first as this battle will drag on for ages. There is nothing to suggest T-1000 can have his endurance taxed.

Originally posted by Placidity
If anything the Hulk will revert back to Banner first as this battle will drag on for ages. There is nothing to suggest T-1000 can have his endurance taxed. There's nothing to suggest an infinite limit to his durability either.

If the Hulk were intelligent, he could dispose of the T-1000 fairly easily.

Unfortunately he's not.

Originally posted by Impediment
In my opinion, there is nothing that either combatant can do to each other.

Hulk is, well, Hulk. His sheer mass and body density, not mention his impenatrable skin, is no match for the T-1000. Cutting weapons and the small stature, in comparison, is going to do dick to Hulk.

The T-1000 is a shapeshifter and made of liquid metal. Hulk may very well be able to pound or thunder clap the 1000 into a puddle of goo, but the Terminator will just be able to reassemlbe itself as shown in the steel mill after the liquid nitrogen wore off.

Unless Hulk is in the vicinity of a steel mill to use his breath to push the 1000 into it, then I see this as a horrible stalemate. what you say makes sense, but you have to ask yourself, if its stalemate because of T-1000 being indestructible and can heal. How come a fight between Hulk and Wolverine is not Stalemate ?

Originally posted by quanchi112
There's nothing to suggest an infinite limit to his durability either.

No one said there was. Endurance is not the same as durability. Like anything in this world, even the machine will eventually break down, but that will be a loooong time.

Originally posted by Placidity
No one said there was. Endurance is not the same as durability. Like anything in this world, even the machine will eventually break down, but that will be a loooong time. I don't think it will be as long as you think especially with the sheer force of the Hulk's offense.

Originally posted by chomperx9
what you say makes sense, but you have to ask yourself, if its stalemate because of T-1000 being indestructible and can heal. How come a fight between Hulk and Wolverine is not Stalemate ? Because Wolverine can be knocked out.

This is thread is so awful.

Hulk wins.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I don't think it will be as long as you think especially with the sheer force of the Hulk's offense. Why don't you think that? What indication is ever given that T-1000 will ever run out of juice, never mind before Hulk reverts back to Banner?

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Why don't you think that? What indication is ever given that T-1000 will ever run out of juice, never mind before Hulk reverts back to Banner? To me it's only reasonable the T-1000 can't keep going forever and he's never been hit continuously with the amount of force from the Hulk but It's just what I believe and really can't be proven either way.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Why don't you think that? What indication is ever given that T-1000 will ever run out of juice, never mind before Hulk reverts back to Banner?

It's a machine, albeit an extremely high-tech machine, stands to reason it has a power-source and that power-source likely isn't infinite.

While the Hulk showed that as long as he's attacked, he can keep on going and going. It was also implied that he has nigh-limitless levels of gamma-energy to draw from. His father drained enough electrical power to power a small city, yet the Hulk was able to over-tax his absorbing powers.

Hulk clearly has just about every advantage in this fight, Strength, power, speed, durability and a healing factor; yet people insist that it's Hulk who has to prove he can win, when it's really the other way around.

Originally posted by quanchi112
To me it's only reasonable the T-1000 can't keep going forever and he's never been hit continuously with the amount of force from the Hulk but It's just what I believe and really can't be proven either way. That's all I wanted to hear. Read.

T-1000 has abilities hulk doesnt which is going under invisible by hiding in the floor. the hulks abilities all come from his dna not his anger or living organs. if the T-1000 got in the hulks body and found a way to suck out all of his dna than it would be game over for the hulk. the hulk could throw the T-1000's pieces within a distance so it couldnt reform,but the T-1000 could easily leak its way out of the hulks hand within seconds.

wtf...

Can't believe this thread has made it to page 8....