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VERSUS

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Ok ok, I'm pretty sure that this has been done before, but hopefully not under the following conditions.

In an alternate universe, after the events of Terminator 2, John Connor flees to Detroit in fear of his life. A Terminator (Ahnold) is sent back in time to Detroit in a last ditch attempt to wack Connor. The evil Terminator picks up a phone book and proceeds to slaughter every John Connor in the Detroit area, soon the police put an officer on the case, Robocop.

Robocop soon finds John hiding at a hotel and offers police protection, but it's too late, Terminator has found his man as well. Connor gives in and Robocop starts leads him to his squad car when Terminator rolls in on a Harley. Terminator fires a couple of rounds at John before Robocop shoots him, knocking him off his bike. John successfully escapes on a dirt bike. Robocop walks towards the Terminator (who is on his feet and extremely pissed) and says "Dead or alive you're coming with me". " F*ck you ah-sowl", is the only reply Robocop receives.


RULES:

1) Use facts, feats, etc. from Robocop 1,2 and Terminator 1,2 ONLY.
NO COMICS.

3) They start the fight with John out of the way and they are about 10 feet apart, in the hotel parking lot.

2) Each machine is only allowed the following Weapons.
Robocop : His trusty automatic pistol (Unlimited ammo). And the weird explosive gun he took out Mr. Ed-209 with , it's in his patrol car, about 500 feet away and only has one round.

3) Terminator: Shotgun, Colt 45 and a grenade launcher (3 rounds), all weapons on him.

Thank you. This is the way to start a good thread.

Was gonna say another vs thread for these two but i see this one has rules.

Originally posted by Blinky
the Terminator (who is on his feet and extremely pissed)

Cyborgs do not possess emotions.

Even tho John Connar tried to teach some things to one.

IMO robocop gets trashed eventually, having organic parts makes him vulnerable to the terminators pinpoint targeting and marksmanship.

Originally posted by omgchos
IMO robocop gets trashed eventually, having organic parts makes him vulnerable to the terminators pinpoint targeting and marksmanship.

Mm, Robocop has better accuracy than the Terminator. Not that it matters much.

I find robo to be at a disadvantage here, the terminator is faster so chances are it would go like this:

Terminator unloads on robocop with the shotgun coursing severe damage, robo fires back but the bullets bounce harmlessly of the terminators endo skeleton the only damage coursed is the breaking of fake flesh on the terminator, whilst robocop moves at the pace of a turtle the terminator then blows off robo's legs and an arm with the grenade launcher....he then gets the big huge gun thing from robo's car and blows robocop up. The terminator eventually catches up to John kills him and then after a hard days work has a nice cool Margareta.


I've seen a terminator run but I never seen robo run and chances are he can't

Originally posted by steverules_2
Terminator unloads on robocop with the shotgun coursing severe damage

I highly doubt that the shot gun would cause much damage at all to Robocop. In Robocop 1, Robo took hundreds of high caliber rounds and still managed to survive. He even survived Kane's Gatling Gun. Some Buck-shot might knock him around a bit, but not cause any crippling damage.


Originally posted by steverules_2
Robo fires back but the bullets bounce harmlessly of the terminators endo skeleton the only damage coursed is the breaking of fake flesh on the terminator

I don't know the caliber of Robo rounds but they seem to pack a wallop. Maybe they wouldn't do much but maybe they would. I think they have enough power to knock The Terminator around.

Originally posted by steverules_2
whilst robocop moves at the pace of a turtle the terminator then blows off robo's legs and an arm with the grenade launcher

Robo has taken grenades (missiles) from both ED-209 and Kane, he walked away on both accounts.

Originally posted by steverules_2
....he then gets the big huge gun thing from robo's car and blows robocop up.


Yeah, that huge gun would probably be certain death for either Terminator or Robo. Robocop is definately slow, so geting to his ride would take awhile. I believe Robo has a chance of making it to his car.

Yeah robocop was able to escape ED-209 but by making him fall down the stairs, robocop was really badly damaged and ED would have killed him had Robocop not gotten lucky with some stairs. A couple more shots from ED would have finished Robo off. As for the Kane fight yes robo was able to take alot of damage from him (not as much as ED) and still walk away but had Kane not gotten the drug (the name slips my mind) then I'm pretty sure Kane would have eventually been able to win unless robo had found another way to get on kanes back and pull out his brain. As for the grenades they wouldn't kill Robo and they may not blow off any limbs but they would still course some very powerful damage and would slow him down for sure.

Robo would be able to get to his car but Terminator would be able to get their first and finish off Robocop, it's like you said Robo is slow, the terminator isn't and he could just simply run over to the car

The terminator has taken more than one shotgun shot to the chest and still managed to keep going, I'm pretty sure robocops gun (although powerful) isn't as powerful as a shotgun but then again like with the terminator Robo may be able to get an aim on a weak area where he can course some damage.

Terminator I'm sure could aim for a part of Robocop where the shot gun could course some slight Damage and there's the mouth of robocop that isn't covered which I'm sure Terminator could hit.

I think they're both are equal in the targeting department. Everything that we've seen Robobcop do with his, We've seen the Terminator do as well. I'd say the Terminator has the edge on durability. They both have their weaknesses but as we've seen in the movies, When Robocop suffers damage to head, his systems go hay-wire and the Terminator definitely has the ability to target Robocops mouth, temple or eye visor. The Terminators endure major small arms fire to the head in all three movies and are unaffected.

The Terminator would walk up on Robocop, taking all damage (but nothing severe) while slowly aiming and then dispersing several lethal rounds that incapacitate Robocop.

This fight doesn't even make it back to the car.

I thought the comic book series the genesis game was good and enjoyable

But yeah Robo loses this one, I think he loses badly

I'm pinning all this on durability, which Terminator has. Robocop loses this one.

overly powerful, singleminded, "must terminate" heavyass beats down "who am i", emo, slowass robocop.

Intelligence: Tie
Strength: Tie
Durability: T-800
Mobility Speed: T-800
Reaction Speed: Robocop
Willpower: T-800
Weapons: T-800
Targeting/Accuracy: Robocop

The way I see it, Robocop's only chance of winning is 500 feat away. That's like 10 miles for the film version of Robocop. Now Robocop is extremely durable. Rifle rounds and shotgun shells should just bounce off of his armor. Same with T-800. But in the the first film Robocop was covering his mouth as if for protection when all of those cops were ordered to kill him. So I'm assuming that's a weak spot. Who wouldn't think of that. I'm sure the T-800 would immediately spot that and shoot there. That said, Robocop M-9 individual clip contains like an estimate of 200 9mm rounds. Those won't have a prayer against the T-800. It's armored all over. The T-800 is also the better tactitian IMO. It has contingencies and backups and is mostly very clever for a machine. It's willpower is not to be messed with either. You can take three limbs off of it and as long as it has an arm and a CPU still intact it will continue it's mission. Robocop's best bet is to stay away and snipe. He has no chance at getting his pulse rifle in his car........500 FEET AWAY. And his chances of H2H vs a Terminator aren't great either.

its a machine, dude.

Originally posted by Sado22
its a machine, dude. I'm aware of that, however the Terminators stop at nothing. Even when limbs are disabled and it seems hopeless. It will never give up.

I think the biggest factor here is that Robocop's big weapon is far away from him (with only one round) and the T-800's grenade launcher is on him (with three rounds). T-800 blows Murphy to smithereens.

Originally posted by Darth Martin
Intelligence: Tie
Strength: Tie
Durability: T-800
Mobility Speed: T-800
Reaction Speed: Robocop
Willpower: T-800
Weapons: T-800
Targeting/Accuracy: Robocop

The way I see it, Robocop's only chance of winning is 500 feat away. That's like 10 miles for the film version of Robocop. Now Robocop is extremely durable. Rifle rounds and shotgun shells should just bounce off of his armor. Same with T-800. But in the the first film Robocop was covering his mouth as if for protection when all of those cops were ordered to kill him. So I'm assuming that's a weak spot. Who wouldn't think of that. I'm sure the T-800 would immediately spot that and shoot there. That said, Robocop M-9 individual clip contains like an estimate of 200 9mm rounds. Those won't have a prayer against the T-800. It's armored all over. The T-800 is also the better tactitian IMO. It has contingencies and backups and is mostly very clever for a machine. It's willpower is not to be messed with either. You can take three limbs off of it and as long as it has an arm and a CPU still intact it will continue it's mission. Robocop's best bet is to stay away and snipe. He has no chance at getting his pulse rifle in his car........500 FEET AWAY. And his chances of H2H vs a Terminator aren't great either. Strength a tie? Reaction speed, Robocop?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Strength a tie? Reaction speed, Robocop? Robocop has caught a sniper's bullet out of the air. Watch how fast hje backhands that guy doing a 180 degree turn in the first movie in the convenience store after bending the barrel. It's also a theme in all of the films that he has state of the art reflexes and reaction speed.

I would think Robocop and a T-800 would be roughly equal in strength.

I still say the T-800 wouldn't let Murphy get to his car.