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Riddick and Kyra (Chronicles of Riddick) versus Marv and Kevin (Sin City.)

Hand to hand combat, no weapons. The fight takes place in the back alleys of Basin City. No stealth involved, Riddick's night vision is not a factor (The alley is perfectly lit so that all combatants can see the same), and there is typical alley debris scattered everywhere (Bottles, pallets, trash cans.)

Fight to the death. Who wins?

I might take flak for this, but I believe Riddick would take Marv.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I might take flak for this, but I believe Riddick would take Marv.

How's he going to bring down a guy like Marv with no weapons?

By being a far better h2h combatant. Plus he displays strength feats in COR and PB that are far more than peak human.

Plus you gotta remember what Riddick can do with a knife, or pretty much anything with a sharp edge. If he gets ahold of a piece of glass or an empty beer bottle, Marv is done.

The question is can Kyra take Kevin?

Marv is far more durable than just some regular dude, so "a piece of glass" isn't likely going to bring him down. Riddick also has to get in close to use that piece of glass, one grab from Marv and it's over for Riddick.

Doubt she could without a real weapon and Kevin comes equipped with his super-sharp nails.

Kyra was shown fighting four and five prison guards at a time, and holding her own against necromongers. She is pretty close to Kevin in speed and just as brutal.

Riddick is umpteen times faster than Marv, one slice to the jugular and Marv bleeds out. I love Marv, but man, I think Riddick is too much for him. The man tore through Necromongers "As if they werent even there." Gotta remember him matching that huge alien bird thing in PB in strength.

Kevin has the best reaction time of the bunch, if he isn't a bullet timer. He's close. Marv's durability is inhuman and his trength is at least equal to Riddicks. In other words I'd give the advantage to Marv and Kevin. Strangely I think the best strategy for Riddick and Kyra is to switch opponents if you will. Kyra vs Marv and Riddick vs Kevin. As Riddck has shown the ability to tangle with super fast folks and small, quick, agile fighter have thrown Marv off his game and he has reservations about hurting women.

Good point. Kyra'd have trouble taking Marv out though. Riddick would take Kevin out fairly easily I think. Then he could join Kyra against Marv.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Good point. Kyra'd have trouble taking Marv out though. Riddick would take Kevin out fairly easily I think. Then he could join Kyra against Marv.

Yeah I didn't say it was a perfect plan. Just that it might be their best shot. I think the things working in Kyra's favor would be agility, stealth, and possible speed. Not unlike Marv's first encounter with Kevin. Though Kyra is nowhere near as fast or strong as Kevin. That and she's a chick.

Kyra and Riddick work better as a team, thats gonna a factor.

Marv was a beast, but riddick is THE beast.

Agreed. Shall we assign weapons?

Tis your thread.

I'm open to suggestions.

Well riddick and Kira are quicker than marv, and Kevin may be quick and quiet, but quiet is obviously irrelavant because of the lighting. So weapons may make this the same stalemate i already think it is. Riddick is a beast, but marv was just so durable. And kevin showed absolutely no signs of pain so he is durable as well. Idk man im babbling.

Kevin fell pretty hard the one time Marv hit him. For all we know, a well placed Kyra kick would KO Kevin.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I might take flak for this, but I believe Riddick would take Marv.

I would believe it too if you didn't made the match hth only. If Riddick had a knife I could easily see him beating Marv. However team Sin City wins because it's Kevin > Marv. Remember Kevin was the one that beat Marv in a straight up fight, not the other way around.

Marv wil never lay a hand on Riddick. Riddick is just as strong and way faster.

Kevin beat Marv in a straight up fight? You mean snuck up on him and blinded him? K.

Marv is likely stronger than Riddick and by a good measure. He pushed a guys head into a brick wall, into it. He also splintered a wooden door and sent 4-5 men flying.

Like I said, Riddick is going to have to get in close to hit Marv; Marv is likely to land a grab, it's over from there.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Kevin beat Marv in a straight up fight? You mean snuck up on him and blinded him? K.

They were fighting head to head for a while before Marv got blinded. And if Marv is better than Kevin, than why did Marv have to set up booby traps, diversions, and have weapons on him just to fight Kevin the second time? That time Marv was the one who tried to sneak attack Kevin and had a hatchet on him. However it was all backfiring and the fight was beginning to mirror their first fight all over again. Marv only won that one because of the handcuffs.

Originally posted by HumanMovieGuide
They were fighting head to head for a while before Marv got blinded. And if Marv is better than Kevin, than why did Marv have to set up booby traps, diversions, and have weapons on him just to fight Kevin the second time? That time Marv was the one who tried to sneak attack Kevin and had a hatchet on him. However it was all backfiring and the fight was beginning to mirror their first fight all over again. Marv only won that one because of the handcuffs.

Marv rigged all that shit so that he could get Kevin close. He knew that if he let Kevin jump around kicking and shit, he was done for.

Riddick wrestled and killed a monster strong enough to swoop down, fly off with someone without losing speed, and kill it with it's own claws. He has also shown enhanced strength and durability in all 3 movies, and the games. He is just as strong, or stronger than Marv. Plus he's leagues faster, both of those will put Marv down.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Marv rigged all that shit so that he could get Kevin close. He knew that if he let Kevin jump around kicking and shit, he was done for.

Riddick isn't the jumping around 5'5" squirrel-boy that Kevin is.

Riddick's fast, but he's going to have to get close to Marv and he's a much larger target for Marv to get his gorilla-grip on.

Originally posted by KingD19
Riddick wrestled and killed a monster strong enough to swoop down, fly off with someone without losing speed, and kill it with it's own claws. He has also shown enhanced strength and durability in all 3 movies, and the games. He is just as strong, or stronger than Marv. Plus he's leagues faster, both of those will put Marv down.

Having wings and being able to fly off with something smaller doesn't mean those things were crazy strong.

Marv's strength feats on film were more impressive.

Originally posted by Robtard
Riddick isn't the jumping around 5'5" squirrel-boy that Kevin is.

Riddick's fast, but he's going to have to get close to Marv and he's a much larger target for Marv to get his gorilla-grip on.

And whats to stop Riddick from using something other than his fists to KO Marv? Think about the sledgehammer Kevin used on Marv, Riddick could easily twirl that around like a baton. No doubt Riddick will have difficulty KOing Marv with his hands, thats why he would pick up something from the alley and use it. And, as I said, all Riddick would need is a small piece of glass to open up Marv's jugular. With a blade, or anything that cuts, Riddick is a damn surgeon.

You are underestimatimg Riddicks strength, In the battle towards the end, on Crematoria, Riddick displays feats of strength that match/surpass what Marv has to offer.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_B._Riddick

Physical abilities
Aside from his more supernatural skills, Riddick is in excellent physical condition and is an exceptional fighter with or without the use of his eyes. Whether as a result of his Furyan heritage or simple training, Riddick is portrayed in both films as being stronger, faster, tougher, more resistant to damage and injury, possessing more acute senses, immense stamina, and recovering more quickly than most humans from injuries; he is shown on more than one occasion dislocating his limbs for brief moments with only slight signs of discomfort. In general, Riddick possesses an abnormally high pain threshold and psychologically channels what pain he does feel into anger.

Riddick's abilities at hand-to-hand combat are particularly formidable, confronting one of the night-creatures of Pitch Black with only his bare hands and a shiv he had made, breaking its neck, as well as defeating one of the Lord Marshall's best Necromonger warriors in a matter of seconds in Chronicles.


Intelligence
Despite his harsh upbringing and violent streak, Riddick has been shown to have a certain deductive streak, rapidly concluding what had happened to the original inhabitants of the mining base where he and the other crash survivors had been staying, as well as finding the creature's blind spot in Pitch Black and swiftly deducing what had caused the firefight between the wardens and Toombs' men in Chronicles. He has also been described as having "a knack for escape", surviving not only the Lord Marshall's purge of the Furyans when he was an infant but subsequently escaping from various prisons over the course of his life. He is also able to quickly judge the quality of, and find even seemingly minor flaws in most weaponry, down to very specific details. In one case, Riddick concluded that the prized dagger of a Necromonger was "half a gram too heavy on the back end" after an inspection lasting all of a couple seconds. His only weakness (other than light sensitivity), as stated in the Pitch Black DVD, is his soft spot for children and anyone who really grows on him (those people become his friends), which resulted in his capture by the bounty hunter Johns (Cole Hauser).

In addition to raw analytical power, Riddick is generally an astute judge of character, especially in the dark side of human nature. A killer himself and resident of almost one hundred maximum security facilities, he is often able to predict an individual's negative impulses before they act on them. He has been known to be surprised on occasion, such as when Carolyn Fry in Pitch Black altruistically gave up a fast escape to save Jack (Kyra) and Imam from the alien creatures, and underestimated Jack's (Kyra's) affection toward him between Pitch Black and The Chronicles of Riddick, only learning of it after she had become a mercenary and resident of a maximum security slam. Otherwise, he correctly predicted which of the group in Pitch Black would turn on each other (in particular that Johns would try to double-cross Fry), and that the mercs and guards on Crematoria would turn on each other prior to his escape attempt.


Willpower
One major characteristic of Riddick is his indomitable will. Despite finding himself in situations where the odds of survival and/or escape would seem insurmountable, Riddick always pushes forward and never gives up. Faced with several creatures far more powerful than himself, or any other human for that matter, he has shown himself to be capable of evading, killing, or even taming them. He has escaped out of prisons when most prisoners would resign themselves to captivity. When Riddick was mentally probed by the Quasi-Dead of the Necromongers, he not only resisted them, but also retaliated. Given the Necromongers' apparent faith in and respect for the power of the Quasi-Dead, this is a very impressive feat. Perhaps even greater was his ability to resist the Lord Marshall's attempt to steal his soul.

So yeah, Riddick is superior to Marv in every possible way.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
And whats to stop Riddick from using something other than his fists to KO Marv? Think about the sledgehammer Kevin used on Marv, Riddick could easily twirl that around like a baton.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Hand to hand combat, no weapons.

You really made a strange choice here.

Originally posted by HumanMovieGuide
You really made a strange choice here. No weapons on them to start, but there is typical alley debris everywhere. Bottles can be broken and used as a cutting weapon. Dumpsters may be scavenged for makeshift weapons. On Site Procurement, pretty much. Riddick can use a piece of glass on the ground, Marv can use a discarded baseball bat, etc;

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
And whats to stop Riddick from using something other than his fists to KO Marv? Think about the sledgehammer Kevin used on Marv, Riddick could easily twirl that around like a baton. No doubt Riddick will have difficulty KOing Marv with his hands, thats why he would pick up something from the alley and use it. And, as I said, all Riddick would need is a small piece of glass to open up Marv's jugular. With a blade, or anything that cuts, Riddick is a damn surgeon.

You are underestimatimg Riddicks strength, In the battle towards the end, on Crematoria, Riddick displays feats of strength that match/surpass what Marv has to offer.

So yeah, Riddick is superior to Marv in every possible way.

It took a sledgehammer to the face to KO Marv, are you telling me there are suddenly sledgehammers in this alley?

That Wiki link didn't show Riddick as being stronger than Marv, just that he's stronger than regular people, which he is.

Originally posted by Robtard
It took a sledgehammer to the face to KO Marv, are you telling me there are suddenly sledgehammers in this alley?

That Wiki link didn't show Riddick as being stronger than Marv, just that he's stronger than regular people, which he is. I never said there were sledghammers in the alley, I was merely saying Riddick is so strong that he could twirl that sledgehammer like a baton. It was emphasizing Riddicks strength.

Riddick lifts guys over his head like they are nothing. Same as Marv. During his battle with the Necromongers, geez, musta been at least 30 Necromongers, he cuts through them as if they weren't even there. "He went through my men as if they weren't even there", Vaako's words.

Not to mention him going toe to toe with TWO of those alien creatures in Pitch Black. He broke one's neck as if it were a twig.

In "Dark Fury", Riddick takes on those two Shrill while he was handcuffed and pwned them. Marv would have been killed.

I cant find a youtube vid of it, so I'll go over the battle Riddick had with the Necromongers:

Riddick, to Kyra: "Remember that favorite game of yours"

Kyra, to Riddick: "Who's the better killer?"

Riddick, to Kyra: "Let's play."

Riddick has one blade, he leaps like ten feet in the air, kills a Necro, grabs dudes gun, kills another. Kills another with his knife, one with the gun, another with his knife. He lifts Kyra with one hand, spins her around like she is a rag doll, and she kills two more Necros.

Riddick dumps the knife and gun, draws his twin blades form his back. He kills 9 Necros in seconds. Then 8 more. Then 2 more. Then he grabs Kyra with one hand, tosses her at least twenty feet, she lands on top if a Necro, kills him.

Riddick leaps like ten feet forward, decaps a Necro, kills another, then faces off with another. He back flips, disarms the Necro, kicking the Necro's knife into the air. He lands, KO's the Necro with a front kick, then takes out two more Necro's, clotheslines another, then full Nelson's another as if the guy weighed nothing.

Riddick then catches the airborne knife, kills a Necro with it, sees Kyra in trouble, and throws the knife into a Necro's eye. Riddick then kills another Necro and uses the Necro's body as a shield when Vaako fires at him.

The blast throws Riddick back at least twenty feet, off the ledge, to the rocky surface below.

Didn't kill him though.

Over 30 Necro's killed in a matter of minutes, if that.

And he still had it in him to face off with the Lord Marshall and kill him.


Let's see Marv match that in strength, stamina, endurance and fighting prowess.

Edit:

Vaako: "Riddick was no common breeder, in a heartbeat he dropped 20 of my men."

But I watched the battle just now, there were at least 30 killed by Riddick.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
No weapons on them to start, but there is typical alley debris everywhere. Bottles can be broken and used as a cutting weapon. Dumpsters may be scavenged for makeshift weapons. On Site Procurement, pretty much. Riddick can use a piece of glass on the ground, Marv can use a discarded baseball bat, etc;

In that case I could definitely see Riddick taking down Marv. He'll just have to find a sharp object and start stabbing at Marv. It will take a while for Marv to go down, but his performance will definitely be affected. However Kevin is still the one to beat here. And I hadn't seen the Riddick cartoon yet, so I don't know if Kyra is any better in that than she is in the film. But if she's the same, I see her going down first.

Originally posted by HumanMovieGuide
. But if she's the same, I see her going down first.

On who?

Originally posted by Robtard
On who?

Either of the Sin City guys would be able to take her out.

Oh wait a minute. I forgot Marv doesn't hit women, so she'll be taken out by Kevin then.

Originally posted by HumanMovieGuide
In that case I could definitely see Riddick taking down Marv. He'll just have to find a sharp object and start stabbing at Marv. It will take a while for Marv to go down, but his performance will definitely be affected. However Kevin is still the one to beat here. And I hadn't seen the Riddick cartoon yet, so I don't know if Kyra is any better in that than she is in the film. But if she's the same, I see her going down first. Dont count Kyra out too easily, she was pretty badass in COR.

Marv and Kevin win. Riddick is a good combatant, but he would get slaughtered by Marv. To say hes stronger than Marv is just insane. Riddick has peak human strength true true. But Marve has more than peak human strength. Also keep in mind he survived the death penalty the first time before them having to do it again. Would Riddick? Im thinkin no. Kevin is faster than Kyra. And he probably is just as good of a fighter as her too. So him being FASTER and just as good combatant wise. Team Sin City win.

Marv stronger than Riddick? I think not. Riddick is furyan, man, and can take just as much of a beating, and is WAY faster. Kevin is more flashy than Kyra, maybe a bit faster, not by much though.

I realize that Riddick is not a normal human, but neither is Marv. Like I said basing on feats... Riddick has not done much thats more impressive than what Marv's done in the one movie. And Kevin would dispose of Kyra and then it'd be a double team on Riddick anyway.

Well, like I said before, all Riddick needs is a sliver of glass from a broken bottle and Marv is history.

YUeah I got u cause Marve can survive the death penalty electric chair but not a stab wound? He's been ****ed up by Kevin and survived... im certain he'll live from Riddicks glass.

What's Marv gonna do when Riddick opens up his jugular? Riddick is THAT good with cutting utensils, man. He killed a man with a frigging teacup.

I dont see that happening but you can keep thinkin ti will lol. If Riddick even gets in striking distance of Marv he will do the one hitta quitta to Riddick.

Riddick is WAY faster than Marv, he will be able to slice Marv two or three times before Marv can react.