Dr Manhattan Vs

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Placidity
http://www.rowthree.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/drmanhattanfromtrailer.jpg

Manhattan, observing the declining state of humanity has decided to wipe out the planet and start anew. He has given the planet an ultimatum - change their ways within a year, or else...

Meanwhile, the heroes and villians of Earth are preparing for the final showdown. They intend to strike one day before the time is up.

Dr Manhattan once told Ozymandias he was no more threat to him than an ant. Well, he is back in the line-up along with some of the most formidable characters ever to exist. But will their combined efforts be able to defeat the seemingly god-like Dr Manhattan?

- One Year Prep

- Unlimited Resources

The Line Up...

1. Superman
2. Lex Luthor (with the Kyrptonian Crystals)
3. Doomsday (Superman/Doomsday)
4. Dark Phoenix
5. Charles Xavier
6. Reed Richards
7. Tony Stark
8. Victor Von Doom
9. The Silver Surfer
10. Hal Jordan
11. Magneto
12. Ozymandias
13. Syndrome (The Incredibles)
14. Ghost Rider
15. Voldemort
16. Dumbledore
17. John Murdoch (Dark City)
18. Dr. Emmett "Doc" Brown (Back to the Future)
19. Jimmy Neutron
20. ? ? ?

Can it be done?

You get to pick the final member of this team... (No Gods or divine characters allowed).

Dr Will Hatch
You forgot to add Batman. Either him or Palpatine for the number 20 spot.

And I think that the team wins.

Wei Phoenix
Team stomps him so hard and fast.

Placidity
Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Team stomps him so hard and fast.

You know awhile ago I didn't think he was THAT unstoppable, but everyone hyped him up a lot on here and the Comics VS when Watchmen came out, so I've come to accept he was really that uber.

Oh well, I hope someone says Manhattan, so we get a debate going =/

Dr Will Hatch
He isn't a cosmic, has a mind, and has been beaten before. There's not much to debate unless he gets prep too.

Placidity
ok...

Backup Scenario II

Only 1 Week Prep.

Backup Scenario III

Only pick 7 Characters from that list. (1 Year Prep)

Placidity
Originally posted by Dr Will Hatch
He isn't a cosmic, has a mind, and has been beaten before. There's not much to debate unless he gets prep too.

I trust if he has prep he will destroy the planet as soon as he senses an attack.

Lets just say he is in a semi-battle ready state when the team strikes.

Also remember, this guy knows how to resemble his molecules...

Placidity
Originally posted by Placidity
I trust if he has prep he will destroy the planet as soon as he senses an attack.

Lets just say he is in a semi-battle ready state when the team strikes.

Also remember, this guy knows how to reassemble his molecules...

Edit: Delete this post please. Thanks.

Wei Phoenix
1. Superman-loses
2. Lex Luthor (with the Kyrptonian Crystals)-Wins, the crystals won't really do anything here but get in the way, nothing Luthor can really do.
3. Doomsday (Superman/Doomsday)-loses
4. Dark Phoenix- loses
5. Charles Xavier- loses if it is strictly a battle of telepathy.
6. Reed Richards- don't know how to really judge this one, as I don't know how Reed would fight him.
7. Tony Stark- unsure
8. Victor Von Doom- unsure
9. The Silver Surfer- loses
10. Hal Jordan- leaning towards Hal
11. Magneto- I don't think that metal alone would be enough to stop him.
12. Ozymandias- wins
13. Syndrome (The Incredibles)- wins
14. Ghost Rider- loses
15. Voldemort- don't care probably wins
16. Dumbledore- see above
17. John Murdoch (Dark City)- wins
18. Dr. Emmett "Doc" Brown (Back to the Future) loses lol
19. Jimmy Neutron- loses
20. ? ? ?

Darth Martin
Well I think Surfer, Hal Jordan, and Phoenix are alone in his ballpark. Giving guys like Reed, Ozymandias, Stark, and Syndrome prep surely helps.

I say can pull it off in 7 weeks of prep. They got tech, cosmics, and magic to work with.

And to the oerson who said Batman should be added? He's not that smart. I'd certainly put Fox or Q on the list before him.

Wei Phoenix
Originally posted by Placidity
I trust if he has prep he will destroy the planet as soon as he senses an attack.

Lets just say he is in a semi-battle ready state when the team strikes.

Also remember, this guy knows how to resemble his molecules...

Destroy the planet? no

he never destroyed anything larger then a tank. Also he wouldn't doom the entire world just to beat them. I see where you're coming from though, he is incredibly hyped.

Dr Will Hatch
Why would Voldemort win? lol

Wei Phoenix
Originally posted by Dr Will Hatch
Why would Voldemort win? lol

Said Dr M would probably win.

Rogue Jedi
Voldemort apparates behind him, death spell. haermm

Doctor-Alvis
That team would win. You've got Doom and Reed that can build anything out of anything. Magneto is apparently pro at building telepath devices. And you got telepaths on your team. Even in movie form, I think they could amp up the telepaths and screw up Dr. Manhattan's mind.

Rogue Jedi
No Hancock?

Placidity
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
No Hancock?

Well to be honest, no physical force is really a threat to the Doctor (by that I mean something like trying to punch him etc). I just put Superman in there for good measure (plus he has superior speed, which may or may not be used). If the team is going to win, its mainly due to prep work that MAY utilize muscles in some way.

Rogue Jedi
Dr. Manhattan is a living being, right?

Rogue Jedi
I just read a wiki on Manhattan. Man, he's a ****ing juggernaut, how would the team harm him?

Placidity

jaden101
Manhattan can divide himself into as many projections of himself as he likes and, presumably, still exert as much power from each of those "clones" as he does when he is just one.

He can effectively just think where he wants to be and he's there making him far faster than superman.

Doomsday's been in a film? Was that an animated one?



I think "sentient" would be more accurate.

He's described as "ageless and indestructable"

At the end of "Watchmen" he is to leave the known universe and go and create life. Effectively stating that he's away to be a God. Do any of the people on that list have anything remotely resembling that kind of power?

It's all very well being able to exert massive amounts of kinetic force like Superman or Doomsday but I don't think that's of any use against a being that doesn't feel physical pain anyway.

I'm guessing he would just disassemble all of them.

A few of the geniuses on the list might be able to replicate what Manhattan did to himself though...Then we'd really have a fight.

Placidity
On another note, this reminds me of the Silver Surfer and how disappointed I am with his character in the F4 film. The above list is pretty much what the Surfer was meant to be... (well minus a few powers, like making copies of himself)

Placidity
Originally posted by jaden101


Doomsday's been in a film? Was that an animated one?




At the end of "Watchmen" he is to leave the known universe and go and create life. Effectively stating that he's away to be a God. Do any of the people on that list have anything remotely resembling that kind of power?




- Yea Doomsday was in an animated the animated film Supermanbig grinoomsday. Nothing too special though, but stronger than the animated Supes.

- I think he went to Mars... (could be wrong).

- Anyway, as powerful as he is, he isn't omnipotent. Ozymandias was able to use tachyons to cloud his precognition. I'm sure with the prep time and along with the other genius' (perhaps smarter) would be able to think of something, as well as coming up with a plan that utilizes the other powers on the team.

jinXed by JaNx
Manhattan can't be killed and he can de-atomize someone with a single thought.


Imo the only person who might come close to beating Manhattan is Dark Phoenix. Nothing in the physical realm can harm Manhattan.

jaden101
Went to Mars during the film...Left the known universe to create life at the end of the film.




I think omnipotent doesn't accurately describe Manhattan anyway. It implies that he can do anything which is false as it's widely recognised that while, without interference, he can see the future (although it's not the future to him as he doesn't see time in a linear way) he can't do anything about it...An truly omnipotent being would be able to do something about it....So even without Ozymandias' interference he wouldn't be truly omnipotent.

Placidity
^ True that. But anyone who watches too many superhero movies and comics usually gets detached from its true meaning when writers throw around words like "Gods" and "omnipotence" freely.

Rogue Jedi

dadudemon
It seems that with prep, they could figure something out.

But, with prep, the Dr. could also do something about it.


It's too confusing for me. Too many potential futures with mitigation, reducing the possible number of futures.

I'm Reed Richards MIGHT think of a way around this...but probably not.

Their only bet is to duplicate a Manhattan. However, this may err on the side of that person siding with Dr. Manhattan.



Why are they fighting?







Also, I am not thinking that Magic would do jack. However, no magic was done in that comic, so we don't know how it would act. I'd assume any physical spells would be useless, such as stupify, avada kedavara.

Darth Martin
Not sure what these guys would do seeing how he can reform. But with Reed, Stark, Ozymandias, magicians, and perhaps Doom I suppose anything is possible.

Does Manhattan get any prep? That's a game changer because he's smarter than alot of people on that list.

dadudemon
Originally posted by Darth Martin
Not sure what these guys would do seeing how he can reform. But with Reed, Stark, Ozymandias, magicians, and perhaps Doom I suppose anything is possible.

Does Manhattan get any prep? That's a game changer because he's smarter than alot of people on that list.

He's far smarter than any person on that list by far, which makes things retardly difficult to compare.

Alpha Centauri
Using these kinds of characters is pathetic. It's not even a fight.

He can blink them out of existence by blinking. Nonsense fight.

-AC

Impediment
The only weapon that could, maybe, stand a chance against Manhattan's near omnipotence would be Hal Jordan's Power Ring, However, the Hal Jordan from the First Flight movie is still just a rookie Green Lantern and is nowhere near his full potential.

Everyone else dies. Like, instantly.

Wei Phoenix

Rogue Jedi
I ****ing hate superheroes that are like all powerful.

Alpha Centauri
It's a good thing you haven't got the first clue about them then, isn't it?

They're like that for a reason, and it's not so they can have "fights".

-AC

Rogue Jedi
Not that much to get. This link explained it fairly well:

http://watchmen.wikia.com/wiki/Jon_Osterman

editPowers and abilitiesJon is the only character in the Watchmen series to explicitly possess superhuman abilities (although the details of the plot presuppose the existence of genuine human psychics). Throughout Watchmen, he is shown to be immensely powerful and seemingly invulnerable to all harm; even when his body is disintegrated, he can reconstruct it. Jon has complete awareness of and control over atomic and subatomic particles. He can alter his body's size, coloration, density, and strength. He does not appear to age, need food (although he is shown to eatTemplate:Fact regardless of this), water, or air, and is, for all intents and purposes, immortal. He can teleport himself and others over great (even interplanetary) distances.

Jon's near-limitless powers are further amplified in comparison to the apparent lack of any other "super-powered" individuals. Although Veidt is obviously the second-most dangerous character in the series, as Jon himself observes, "...the world's smartest man means no more to me than its smartest termite."

In addition to these powers, Jon is able to phase any part of his body through solid objects without damaging them, produce multiple copies of himself which function independently of each other, project destructive energy, create force fields, transmute and create matter, move objects without physically touching them (telekinesis), reverse entropyTemplate:Fact, and, he suggests, create life and walk on the surface of the sun. At one point it is stated that, in the event of a nuclear war, he would be capable of destroying upwards of 99% of all Soviet nuclear missiles while at the same time 'destroying' large areas of Russia. As a result of these capabilities, Jon becomes central to the United States' Cold War strategy of deterrence.

Due to his non-linear perception of time, he sees the past, present and future simultaneously.

You don't have to be a die hard Watchmen fan to see Manhattan is pretty much invincible.

Darth Martin
I'm not sure Doom is all that brilliant in the films. He didn't help Reed with Surfer, it seemed he just watched. Stark and Ozymandias seem smarter.

Placidity
Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
How much of that has he done in the movies now?

All of that is in the film. His comic feats are non-existent I think, he was just implied to be godly.

Alpha Centauri
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
You don't have to be a die hard Watchmen fan to see Manhattan is pretty much invincible.

Way to miss my point.

-AC

Breast Feeder
Bruce Almighty makes the good Doctor his *****.

Rogue Jedi
I got your point, they're like that so they don't have to have fights. Lame.

What's more entertaining to you......Watching Wolverine tear a group of special forces soldiers, or watching Manhattan stroll around Vietnam like the jolly green giant?

Nephthys
*Claps*

Doctor-Alvis
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I got your point, they're like that so they don't have to have fights. Lame.

What's more entertaining to you......Watching Wolverine tear a group of special forces soldiers, or watching Manhattan stroll around Vietnam like the jolly green giant?
I liked that 'nam part and how they all wanted to surrender to him in person.

Wei Phoenix
Originally posted by Breast Feeder
Bruce Almighty makes the good Doctor his *****.

This is actually true. Further proof that Dr. M can't win.

Darth Martin
It's pretty much the consensus around here that Bruce Almighty>Doctor Manhattan. We've already had that thread.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
What's more entertaining to you......Watching Wolverine tear a group of special forces soldiers, or watching Manhattan stroll around Vietnam like the jolly green giant? Manhattan explode "Charlie". stick out tongue

Rogue Jedi
Manhattan is the worst of the bunch, ****ing Superman on roids and shit.

Darth Martin
Nah, I found Manhattan to be the second most interesting character and by far the best to look at. Especially in the suit, it was just original.

Rogue Jedi
The movie was shit IMO.

Kaibs
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I ****ing hate superheroes that are like all powerful.

LOL Sorry but I gotta say it. And yet you love Harry Potter.

Kaibs
Also I dont know if we're allowed to use these people or not, but like what about Satan from movies like Constatine?

Rogue Jedi
Originally posted by Kaibs
LOL Sorry but I gotta say it. And yet you love Harry Potter. Think about what you just said. HP characters can be killed by a bullet, a broken neck, by a fall down stairs. Manhattan cannot.

What you just said shows that wizards have potentially limitless maic.

Alpha Centauri
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I got your point, they're like that so they don't have to have fights. Lame.

What's more entertaining to you......Watching Wolverine tear a group of special forces soldiers, or watching Manhattan stroll around Vietnam like the jolly green giant?

No, that wasn't my point. Like I said, you don't get it, so whatever. Don't continue to swagger around as if you are immune to not getting points. You never get mine, hence our continual misunderstandings.

Either way, I recognise it's hard for you to grasp (As a 39 year old man still obsessed with childish violence like it's the only thing in the world), but I like substance to my characters. If all you want is things that explode and fighting, go watch those kinds of movies. Don't blame characters like Dr. Manhattan for being "boring" simply because you, like a child, need something explosive every 10 seconds.

Wolverine is shit. You can only go so far with the violence when you've been around for multi-decades. Eventually you need substance. I guess that's where the ride ends for you.

Go watch Rambo.

-AC

Rogue Jedi
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
No, that wasn't my point. Like I said, you don't get it, so whatever. Don't continue to swagger around as if you are immune to not getting points. You never get mine, hence our continual misunderstandings.

Either way, I recognise it's hard for you to grasp (As a 39 year old man still obsessed with childish violence like it's the only thing in the world), but I like substance to my characters. If all you want is things that explode and fighting, go watch those kinds of movies. Don't blame characters like Dr. Manhattan for being "boring" simply because you, like a child, need something explosive every 10 seconds.

Wolverine is shit. You can only go so far with the violence when you've been around for multi-decades. Eventually you need substance. I guess that's where the ride ends for you.

Go watch Rambo.

-AC wanker Damn dude, you want some cheese with that whine? Tampon, maybe?wanker

Alpha Centauri
You don't eat cheese with whine, you eat it with wi...oh. A pun. Funny.

Impressive.

-AC

Rogue Jedi
K. You done?

Kaibs
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Think about what you just said. HP characters can be killed by a bullet, a broken neck, by a fall down stairs. Manhattan cannot.

What you just said shows that wizards have potentially limitless maic.

No. You think about it. It's called irony. You defend the wizards in every way imaginable to be pretty much invincible pretty much not thinking they're flawed at all.

Rogue Jedi
Originally posted by Kaibs
No. You think about it. It's called irony. You defend the wizards in every way imaginable to be pretty much invincible pretty much not thinking they're flawed at all. Take it to the right thread, dude, dont want to get either of us in it.

Kaibs
Dont start nothin wont be nothin yo.

Rogue Jedi
Glad to see we are both still honkeys.

Alpha Centauri
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Take it to the right thread, dude, dont want to get either of us in it.

Did you not just drag a thread off topic in the YuLaw thread?

-AC

Rogue Jedi
I brought up a question pertaining to knowing many styles and knowing one style. That's what we were talking about when I brought it up. Jet Li knows many styles, Bruce Lee one/not as many. Totally relevant.

Wei Phoenix
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I brought up a question pertaining to knowing many styles and knowing one style. That's what we were talking about when I brought it up. Jet Li knows many styles, Bruce Lee one/not as many. Totally relevant.

If the question is does knowing many martial arts necessarily makes you better than someone who knows only one, then my answer would be no.

Rogue Jedi
I agree.

Alpha Centauri
And YOU moaned about going off topic.

-AC

Rogue Jedi
How was it off topic? Rob and I were talking about how Neo knows many styles, more than YuLaw, it was totally on topic.

Placidity
Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
If the question is does knowing many martial arts necessarily makes you better than someone who knows only one, then my answer would be no.

In theory, you're probably right. But imo, in a practical situation, knowing other MA's would be advantageous.

Wei Phoenix
Originally posted by Placidity
In theory, you're probably right. But imo, in a practical situation, knowing other MA's would be advantageous.

Could be. Captain America knows like 2-3 yet he is a way better fighter than people like Iron Fist, and Wolverine when it comes to H2H.

Placidity
Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Could be. Captain America knows like 2-3 yet he is a way better fighter than people like Iron Fist, and Wolverine when it comes to H2H.

Wasn't really following the discussion, thought you guys meant IRL.

Anyway, yea of course Capt is better than the others you mentioned at MA. It's his thing, if he lost then he would be good for nothing stick out tongue

jalek moye
Originally posted by Placidity
In theory, you're probably right. But imo, in a practical situation, knowing other MA's would be advantageous.
not really martial arts dont equal better then someone who doesnt know any. You can be trained in multiple and be less skilled then someone trained in one.

Darth Martin
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Jet Li knows many styles, Bruce Lee one/not as many. Not sure where you got the idea that Bruce Lee only knows one style. He mastered several in order to create one style. The guy literally knew the flaws and mistakes of many different styles.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Captain America knows like 2-3 yet he is a way better fighter than people like Iron Fist, and Wolverine when it comes to H2H. I wouldn't say he's a way better fighter. I'm not sure he's a better martial artist than either. I'd say he's the smarter and more tactical fighter. Wolverine and Iron Fist know the more traditional martial arts. Wolverine just never uses them because of his other abilities.

For example, Shang Chi is the master of Kung Fu. He may only truly mastered one style. But he can sure as hell whoop everyone's ass with that one style. Overall, I get what your saying about Cap. My point is he'd be more likely to employ headbuts and knees, while Wolverine and Iron Fist would give you a more Asian style of fighting.

Alpha Centauri
How many movies has Iron Fist even been in?

-AC

Wei Phoenix
Originally posted by Darth Martin
Not sure where you got the idea that Bruce Lee only knows one style. He mastered several in order to create one style. The guy literally knew the flaws and mistakes of many different styles.

I wouldn't say he's a way better fighter. I'm not sure he's a better martial artist than either. I'd say he's the smarter and more tactical fighter. Wolverine and Iron Fist know the more traditional martial arts. Wolverine just never uses them because of his other abilities.

For example, Shang Chi is the master of Kung Fu. He may only truly mastered one style. But he can sure as hell whoop everyone's ass with that one style. Overall, I get what your saying about Cap. My point is he'd be more likely to employ headbuts and knees, while Wolverine and Iron Fist would give you a more Asian style of fighting.

Wait did you just say that Captain America would employ cheap tactics like headbutts and knees?

Darth Martin
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
How many movies has Iron Fist even been in? None so far that I'm aware of. It was simply an analogy.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Wait did you just say that Captain America would employ cheap tactics like headbutts and knees? Yes, he does it all the time. His military background employs such tactics.

Quincy
Manhattan wrecks

Wei Phoenix
Originally posted by Quincy
Manhattan wrecks

Manhattan can't beat Bruce Almighty so he doesn't wreck.

Quincy
What would Bruce Nolan do?

Wei Phoenix
Originally posted by Quincy
What would Bruce Nolan do?

Use the infinite powers of God to do whatever he wanted to do. Hell the Mask would stomp him too, those are two characters you just can't beat.

Quincy
Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Use the infinite powers of God to do whatever he wanted to do. Hell the Mask would stomp him too, those are two characters you just can't beat.

I dont see how they can survive splattering disintegration. Or what The Mask could do to kill Manhattan.

Wei Phoenix
Originally posted by Quincy
I dont see how they can survive splattering disintegration. Or what The Mask could do to kill Manhattan.

You don't see how God could beat Dr. M? God as in the creator of all life and existence in the movie? There was literally nothing Bruce couldn't do, he could transform Dr. M back to his human form.

Mask throws an Acme black hole at Dr. M, successful BFR.

Quincy
Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
You don't see how God could beat Dr. M? God as in the creator of all life and existence in the movie? There was literally nothing Bruce couldn't do, he could transform Dr. M back to his human form.

Mask throws an Acme black hole at Dr. M, successful BFR.

I said I dont see how they could survive splattering.

But Interesting argument.

Since Dr Manhattan is capable of creating all life and existence. mhmm

Wei Phoenix
Originally posted by Quincy
I said I dont see how they could survive splattering.

But Interesting argument.

Since Dr Manhattan is capable of creating all life and existence. mhmm

Has he created human life, and I'm sorry if you feel God can be disintegrated. Dr. M, is not on par with God, Dr. M isn't even ranked amongst the gods in DC.

Quincy
Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Has he created human life, and I'm sorry if you feel God can be disintegrated. Dr. M, is not on par with God, Dr. M isn't even ranked amongst the gods in DC.

He can. He stated so.

And Bruce Nolan (who for whatever reason, you're calling god) was injured by getting hit by a car.

Nyah Nyah!

Placidity
Actually I think he stated he would try...

Placidity
I don't think Bruce Nolan was given the full power of God, or at least he did not show to use it to its full capacity. But even then, he's still too much for Manhattan. And maybe the only reason he got hurt was because Freeman allowed it to happen. I mean He knew what was going to happen in the end, I'm sure he didn't give him the godly powers for no reason.

Morgan Freeman, the real God on the other hand, would effortlessly destroy Manhattan.

Utrigita
^As I see it Bruce was granted one aspect of Gods power, omnipotence, the two remaining, Omnipresence and Omniscience God kept to himself, probably to prevent Bruce from changing anything.

It could be debated if Bruce even had the power of God at that point of time that he was hit by the Truck, IIRC he said the moments before he was hit something like "I give up it's not easy being God, I surrender to thy Will" ore something like that.

Alpha Centauri
Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Has he created human life, and I'm sorry if you feel God can be disintegrated. Dr. M, is not on par with God, Dr. M isn't even ranked amongst the gods in DC.

"I think I'll create some (Life)".

Pretty sure that puts him on par with God in that particular aspect. You've also got to consider, in the Watchmen universe, it isn't actually established if God even exists, like in real life.

So if God does exist, he's POSSIBLY more powerful if only for the fact that he came first and, if anything, allowed everything to be what it is. Dr. Manhattan wouldn't exist if God didn't create life initially. That doesn't guarantee that he's more powerful, though.

Either way, these characters are too powerful to fight each other.

-AC

Steak Knife
Dr. Emmett Brown ftw with a scissor leg lock!

Mairuzu
Morgan Freeman wins

jalek moye
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
"I think I'll create some (Life)".

Pretty sure that puts him on par with God in that particular aspect. You've also got to consider, in the Watchmen universe, it isn't actually established if God even exists, like in real life.

So if God does exist, he's POSSIBLY more powerful if only for the fact that he came first and, if anything, allowed everything to be what it is. Dr. Manhattan wouldn't exist if God didn't create life initially. That doesn't guarantee that he's more powerful, though.

Either way, these characters are too powerful to fight each other.

-AC
Being able to create life doesn't make you all powerful

Impediment
Originally posted by jalek moye
Being able to create life doesn't make you all powerful

If being able to create life from nothingness doesn't qualify you as "all powerful" then what in the Blue Shit does?

dadudemon
Originally posted by jalek moye
Being able to create life doesn't make you all powerful

Being able to create it from scratch (not make babies, but like...make it from nothing with your will) is a god ability.

I think that was his point.

Robtard
Abrahamic God created Adam from dirt, ergo, Dr. Manhattan is greater than Jesus-God.

dadudemon
Originally posted by Robtard
Abrahamic God created Adam from dirt, ergo, Dr. Manhattan is greater than Jesus-God.

lulz


FTW.

Placidity
Who created the dirt?

And according to the Abrahamic God, life of humans is not physical.

Rogue Jedi
Whoa.......Religion forum much?

jalek moye
Originally posted by Impediment
If being able to create life from nothingness doesn't qualify you as "all powerful" then what in the Blue Shit does?
Welcome to the world of Fiction, there are characters who can create life and still arnt considered all powerful and can be ebaten by more powerful beings. Soemthign can create life but it depends on what kind of life and what all else it can do.

Dr Will Hatch
Technically, doesn't this make Palpatine on Doctor Manhattans level? :P

Placidity
More Palpatine's Master than Palps himself I say.

Doctor-Alvis
Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
You don't see how God could beat Dr. M? God as in the creator of all life and existence in the movie? There was literally nothing Bruce couldn't do, he could transform Dr. M back to his human form.

Mask throws an Acme black hole at Dr. M, successful BFR.
I wonder if transforming him into a human would do anything. It seems like he got his powers Q-style by having a higher level of understanding. And not from anything physical in his body.

celestialdemon
Since this is a movie forum, I'll go by the movie versions only. Doctor Manhattan destroys them.

jaden101
Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Manhattan can't beat Bruce Almighty so he doesn't wreck.

Bruce is limited by his imagination. A feeble human imagination. Manhattan is not. It's highly unlikely that Bruce can imagine the levels of Manhattan's power...Thus he dies.

Impediment
Originally posted by jaden101
Bruce is limited by his imagination. A feeble human imagination. Manhattan is not. It's highly unlikely that Bruce can imagine the levels of Manhattan's power...Thus he dies.

Isn't it plausible that Bruce, along with his inherited god-like powers, has god-like imagination and brain power?

Quincy
Originally posted by Impediment
Isn't it plausible that Bruce, along with his inherited god-like powers, has god-like imagination and brain power?

Does Superman have a Super sense of humor?

Rogue Jedi
Originally posted by Quincy
Does Superman have a Super sense of humor? Seinfeld FTW.

DarkC
If Dr. Manhattan is all-powerful, why doesn't he change his physical appearance, assuming he had the ability to do so?

Placidity
Originally posted by Quincy
Does Superman have a Super sense of humor?

Please tell me that wasn't a serious argument...

Placidity
Originally posted by DarkC
If Dr. Manhattan is all-powerful

He isn't?

Doctor-Alvis
Originally posted by DarkC
If Dr. Manhattan is all-powerful, why doesn't he change his physical appearance, assuming he had the ability to do so?
I don't think he was "all-powerful", but why would he change it either way?

Quincy
Originally posted by Placidity
Please tell me that wasn't a serious argument...

That's from Seinfeld dingus

Placidity
Dingus isn't that bad is it.

jaden101
Originally posted by Impediment
Isn't it plausible that Bruce, along with his inherited god-like powers, has god-like imagination and brain power?

Not in the animated film he doesn't.

Quincy
Originally posted by Placidity
Dingus isn't that bad is it.

Nah not really

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