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Hugh Jackman's Wolverine from the X-Men series

against

The Predator from the first Predator film.

Scenario:

Wolvie is in the deep jungles of South America. A Yautja sees a potential prey. Logan senses something wrong and pops his claws. The Pred, seeing that the target is armed, fires a blast at Wolvie and hits him. Logan stands up and brushes it off while his healing factor kicks in. The Pred is intrigued. And, after a scan of his target, discovers that not only the skull is encased in a mysterious metal alloy, but the entire skeleton is, too. This is a trophy the Pred MUST have.

The two are pitted at the exact same spot where Arnold and the Pred fought at the final fight in the first film. The Yautja, being honorable, takes off his mask and cannon to fight Logan.

Logan, obviously, has his claws and healing factor.

The Pred, for this fight, will have his dual wrist mounted claws (on one hand only) and his Chakram, the razor sharp smart disc frisbee thingy that can be thrown and return to the user.

Also, remember: Arnold defeated the Predator with no weapons for either participant, and a booby trap log thingy. I'm giving both weapons to make the fight interesting. Jackman Wolvie is around 6'2" and the Predator is about 7'3".

Movie Adamantium against an alien alloy(s) may very well withstand each other. Nobody knows for sure.

Who takes this?

I like the back story you wrote -- Preds would definately get hard once he saw Wolvie had a metal Skull.

As for the fight... wasn't Wolvie's healing factor like WAY f*cking uber? The scene in X3 where Dark Phoenix is blasting away his flesh and his healing factor keeps up, crazyness. What's pred's got that can kill him?

Also if this is the Preds from the first film.. why does he get the flying disk?

I thought that it'd be a nice addition.

Too much?

The Pred should keep the cannon, though not much good it'll do.

The Pred from the first film was h2h slower than a trained human. Wolverine will make him look like slow motion. The Pred has nothing that'll stand up to the claws.

Originally posted by Impediment
I thought that it'd be a nice addition.

Too much?

Well we know little to none about what kind of metal Pred's disc (and claws) are composed of. For all we know he could decapitate Logan with the disc ( hard to imagine Pred's metal to be more durable than Adamantium). I remember Pred's claws breaking in Predator 2... maybe not.

Logan would kill the Pred h2h. Very quickly, and very efficiently.

Wolverine stomps

Originally posted by Mindship
The Pred should keep the cannon, though not much good it'll do.

The Pred from the first film was h2h slower than a trained human. Wolverine will make him look like slow motion. The Pred has nothing that'll stand up to the claws.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Logan would kill the Pred h2h. Very quickly, and very efficiently.

I don't remember movie Wolvie having awesome speed feats. His major weapon against Preds will be his healing factor. They seem about the same speed.

Same speed? Wolvie was WAY faster, man.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Same speed? Wolvie was WAY faster, man.

Gimme specific examples. I don't remember movie Wolvie being that fast, at all.

Edit: I know Wolvie is faster, but he does not have that much of an advantage there, from what I remember from those shit movies.

Originally posted by Blinky
Gimme specific examples. I don't remember movie Wolvie being that fast, at all.

Edit: I know Wolvie is faster, but he does not have that much of an advantage there, from what I remember from those shit movies.

When he was fighting Lady Deathstrike, when he was blocking the wood dart thingies in X Men 3, when he was chopping away the ladder under the fire escape in Origins.

Wolvie's claws will cut right through Pred like hot butter, lop off a limb, gut him, take his head, etc;

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
When he was fighting Lady Deathstrike, when he was blocking the wood dart thingies in X Men 3, when he was chopping away the ladder under the fire escape in Origins.
Meh, ok -- still not all that impressive. But significantly faster than Preds showings. Thanks for reminding me about those scenes, been awhile since I've seen those shit films.


Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Wolvie's claws will cut right through Pred like hot butter, lop off a limb, gut him, take his head, etc;

Everybody knows Wolvies claws will carve up the Pred, real nice. That ain't up for debate.

That's another thing, I dont see why people say they were shit, I quite liked them. A few shit casting calls, but they were good.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
That's another thing, I dont see why people say they were shit, I quite liked them. A few shit casting calls, but they were good.

You'd have to be a life-long fan of the comics to even begin to understand.

On a side note: If this was Wolvie from Hulk VS Wolverine, the Pred would have his severed head shoved up his own ass faster than he could say "What the hell are you?"

Originally posted by Blinky
You'd have to be a life-long fan of the comics to even begin to understand.

On a side note: If this was Wolvie from Hulk VS Wolverine, the Pred would have his severed head shoved up his own ass faster than he could say "What the hell are you?"

I gotcha. Kinda like me having a problem with the movie "Shooter." I read all the Bob Lee Swagger books years ago, I am a huge Stephen Hunter fan, and despite the movie being good to someone who has never read the books, I have that problem with the movie.

wolverine all day.

logan doesnt lose vs. fights

Unless he fights a Jedi......................

Bone Claw Wolverine would even this up.

That or the Predator with Plasma cannon.

Actually either of those situations, and the dominance would be reversed, so still kinda pointless.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I gotcha. Kinda like me having a problem with the movie "Shooter." I read all the Bob Lee Swagger books years ago, I am a huge Stephen Hunter fan, and despite the movie being good to someone who has never read the books, I have that problem with the movie. I don't know if it is like that, cause I never read the books and I still thought Shooter was pretty lame.

Wolverine as long as he keeps his distance and keeps moving/dodging cause all the Predator needs is one strike at wolverine and it's over.

It will only take one or two good hits for Wolverine to kill Pred/ His healing factor and sense of smell should get him within striking distance in no time.

Originally posted by Blinky
You'd have to be a life-long fan of the comics to even begin to understand.

On a side note: If this was Wolvie from Hulk VS Wolverine, the Pred would have his severed head shoved up his own ass faster than he could say "What the hell are you?"

WTF, are you ghey or something? That Wolverine is pre-Xavier and a wild animal-man killing machinel, his HF is also way the **** up there. Hulk uppercutted his ass a mile up and a few miles out, then literally pounded his head into the ground, yet he up in in less than a minute and ready to go.

Would it help if I gave Pred his plasma cannon and/or his telescopic spear?

Originally posted by Impediment
Would it help if I gave Pred his plasma cannon and/or his telescopic spear?

It'd just make him last a bit longer. He'd blast Logan in the chest, Logan would go down, by the time the Predator came in close to collect his prize, healing would have happened and now the Predator just long his best advantage, distance. *snikt* *snikt*

Fight come down to the Predator not being able to get around the healing factor and unbreakable bones.

Originally posted by Robtard
WTF, are you ghey or something? That Wolverine is pre-Xavier and a wild animal-man killing machinel, his HF is also way the **** up there. Hulk uppercutted his ass a mile up and a few miles out, then literally pounded his head into the ground, yet he up in in less than a minute and ready to go.

You misunderstood me 'ol boy. I was saying Preds would have his own head shoved up his arse by Wolvie (from Hulk VS Wolverine ) -- hence the "What the hell are you" refference. Calm down.

Originally posted by Blinky
You misunderstood me 'ol boy. I was saying Preds would have his own head shoved up his arse by Wolvie (from Hulk VS Wolverine ) -- hence the "What the hell are you" refference. Calm down.

Ah, alright, my idiocy then. Carry on.

Originally posted by Bardock42
I don't know if it is like that, cause I never read the books and I still thought Shooter was pretty lame. Did you think X1, 2 and 3 were lame?

i dont really see how 1 and 2 were lame, im a life long comic book fan and i thought 1 and 2 were amazing films,excapally with some of the comic book films that have came before and after them. 3 did suck majorly though

Originally posted by batmanfan136
3 did suck majorly though

Understatement.

Dark Phoenix couldn't stop wolverine, I'm sure as hell predator wouldn't be able to

Originally posted by steverules_2
Dark Phoenix couldn't stop wolverine, I'm sure as hell predator wouldn't be able to

Yes she can. She wasn't trying to.

Originally posted by Robtard
Understatement.

fine it sucked major monkey nuts

Originally posted by batmanfan136
fine it sucked major monkey nuts

that were covered in poisoned dipped donkey shit.

Originally posted by Robtard
that were covered in poisoned dipped donkey shit. You have quite the obsession with testicles covered in feces.

If we're talking Wolverine from Hulk Vs Wolverine, then he wins this.

Originally posted by batmanfan136
i dont really see how 1 and 2 were lame, im a life long comic book fan and i thought 1 and 2 were amazing films,excapally with some of the comic book films that have came before and after them. 3 did suck majorly though

Because Sabretooth looked like a hobo and the acting was abominable.

2 had some decent action but that's it.

-AC

How can any version of Wolvie be put down by the Predator? Killed I mean? He'd regen from anything the Pred throws at him, imcluding the wrist mounted bomb.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
How can any version of Wolvie be put down by the Predator? Killed I mean? He'd regen from anything the Pred throws at him, imcluding the wrist mounted bomb.



i agree there is nothing the pred can do here... he can use his cannon on logan, his claws, heck he can even take off his mask, show his ugly face, and growl all to no avail

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
i agree there is nothing the pred can do here... he can use his cannon on logan, his claws, heck he can even take off his mask, show his ugly face, and growl all to no avail Maybe stink him to death?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
How can any version of Wolvie be put down by the Predator? Killed I mean? He'd regen from anything the Pred throws at him, imcluding the wrist mounted bomb.


I'm sure the Predator could easily drop the comic version of wolverine (post Fatal attractions) when he was without Adamantium. I guess that's neither here nor there, huh

Would be a good match for the Comic Vs forum though.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
How can any version of Wolvie be put down by the Predator? Killed I mean? He'd regen from anything the Pred throws at him, imcluding the wrist mounted bomb.

Um, like I said earlier - Predator would destroy Bone-Claw Wolverine

Obviously I meant any version of adamantium Wolverine.

Was it?

Uh, yeah, any brain dead zombie could see that.

Hmm, I shouldn't have asked a question. Shoulda just said "no it wasn't". That doesn't leave any room for a comeback.

You coulda said "Nuh uh!!!!"

Originally posted by Placidity
Um, like I said earlier - Predator would destroy Bone-Claw Wolverine

I dunno..according to the comics, when Wolvie lost his Adamantium his healing factor was amped.

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
i agree there is nothing the pred can do here... he can use his cannon on logan, his claws, heck he can even take off his mask, show his ugly face, and growl all to no avail

The Preds blue acid from AvP:R would completely dissolve Wolverine's flesh leaving nothing to regen from.

Probably the only way I can see the Predator winning is that.

That would work?

I would presume so. It would either completely destroy any DNA/living tissue or damage it enough to stop it being able to replicate.

The only flaw would be that it wouldn't destroy any tissue completely encased in Adamantium but then anything that was totally encased in Adamantium wouldn't be able to regenerate through the Adamantium anyway so the effect is the same.

Originally posted by Blinky
I dunno..according to the comics, when Wolvie lost his Adamantium his healing factor was amped.

Yes but that's not gonna save him from a decapitation.

Originally posted by jaden101
I would presume so. It would either completely destroy any DNA/living tissue or damage it enough to stop it being able to replicate.

The only flaw would be that it wouldn't destroy any tissue completely encased in Adamantium but then anything that was totally encased in Adamantium wouldn't be able to regenerate through the Adamantium anyway so the effect is the same. But what if Logan's brain stays intact? Can't he regen from anything?

If Logan lost his head, he'd be kaput.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
But what if Logan's brain stays intact? Can't he regen from anything?

His Brain would either not stay intact because the blue acid/solvent would get in past the Adamantiun due to the holes for allowing optic nerves to reach the brain or the Brain would be completely encased in Adamantium and so any brain tissue that did survive wouldn't be able to regenerate past the Adamantium.

I'm also not even sure if it's safe to assume that he can regen from any level of damage because it's not something we've seen in the movies.

I mean how far would you take it?...That he could fully regen quickly enough from a single living cell to avoid being destroyed during regen anyway?

What would be cool though is that if his brain was completely encased and the predator found a way to drill into it and then started sucking the brain matter out (like he did in the scene from one of the predator movies...2 I think) and then Wolverine regens from that tissue. That'd be funny.

Originally posted by Placidity
Yes but that's not gonna save him from a decapitation.

Very true.

Originally posted by jaden101
His Brain would either not stay intact because the blue acid/solvent would get in past the Adamantiun due to the holes for allowing optic nerves to reach the brain or the Brain would be completely encased in Adamantium and so any brain tissue that did survive wouldn't be able to regenerate past the Adamantium.

I'm also not even sure if it's safe to assume that he can regen from any level of damage because it's not something we've seen in the movies.

I mean how far would you take it?...That he could fully regen quickly enough from a single living cell to avoid being destroyed during regen anyway?

What would be cool though is that if his brain was completely encased and the predator found a way to drill into it and then started sucking the brain matter out (like he did in the scene from one of the predator movies...2 I think) and then Wolverine regens from that tissue. That'd be funny. You just blew me away.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
You just blew me away.

I try my best.

What about Victor Creed versus Predator?

Originally posted by jaden101
The Preds blue acid from AvP:R would completely dissolve Wolverine's flesh leaving nothing to regen from.

Probably the only way I can see the Predator winning is that.

We don't know that he can't regenerate from that.

We know he has healing, we don't know how drastic his healing is. In the comics he would laugh that off, and if his movie one is of any similar power...well...

You can't really say either way.

-AC

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
What about Victor Creed versus Predator?

I'd be like a physically stronger Wolverine without adamantium vs Predator. Predator would blow or slice him into bits and pieces.

H2H? I think Vic would take him H2H.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
H2H? I think Vic would take him H2H.

Obviosuly Creed would win H2H, a Predator isn't getting passed Creed's healing-factor with just punches and claws.

Grammar check, homey.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Grammar check, homey.

Oh well, even Ali got hit.

What about Vic versus Dog Alien?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
What about Vic versus Dog Alien?

He'd claw it's face off and lose an arm in the process.

See this is where I get confused. Why wouldn't his arm regen?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
See this is where I get confused. Why wouldn't his arm regen?

Didn't say it wouldn't, but he'd lose it first. Can't say how long it would take movie-Creed to regrow an arm.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
See this is where I get confused. Why wouldn't his arm regen? Originally posted by Robtard
Didn't say it wouldn't, but he'd lose it first. Can't say how long it would take movie-Creed to regrow an arm.

In comics, he could regen his arm by holding the severed piece to the attached part and his cells were reconnecting his arm. Don't know how long it would take to regrow a completely new arm. Movie Sabes seems to have a lower HF so if that would work or not is unknown, but I'm pretty sure that he couldn't regen a limb in like a few seconds or maybe even minutes.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
We don't know that he can't regenerate from that.

We know he has healing, we don't know how drastic his healing is. In the comics he would laugh that off, and if his movie one is of any similar power...well...

You can't really say either way.

-AC

True but as we can only go by onscreen feats then the argument for Wolverine is limited. We know that the predator acid completely destroys tissue as it's used to completely cover their tracks after killing something/someone. Wolverine's healing factor, while impressive onscreen, didn't show regeneration from that level of damage.

As for comic Wolverine. Well i'm in no position to comment seeing as i've never even read one.

Originally posted by jaden101
True but as we can only go by onscreen feats then the argument for Wolverine is limited. We know that the predator acid completely destroys tissue as it's used to completely cover their tracks after killing something/someone. Wolverine's healing factor, while impressive onscreen, didn't show regeneration from that level of damage.

As for comic Wolverine. Well i'm in no position to comment seeing as i've never even read one.

He did regenerate fast from Phoenix's attack though.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
He did regenerate fast from Phoenix's attack though.

yes he did

Where, in the first X-Men film, did it show Sabertooth to have a healing factor of any kind? It's been so long since I watched the film, that I genuinely forgot.

Originally posted by jaden101
True but as we can only go by onscreen feats then the argument for Wolverine is limited. We know that the predator acid completely destroys tissue as it's used to completely cover their tracks after killing something/someone. Wolverine's healing factor, while impressive onscreen, didn't show regeneration from that level of damage.

As for comic Wolverine. Well i'm in no position to comment seeing as i've never even read one.

I'm not using comics as an example, as this is a movie forum.

I'm just saying that as it's based on him, it's possible he was supposed to have the same healing factor.

-AC

Originally posted by Impediment
Where, in the first X-Men film, did it show Sabertooth to have a healing factor of any kind? It's been so long since I watched the film, that I genuinely forgot. He took Logan's blades to the chest and shrugged them off.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
He took Logan's blades to the chest and shrugged them off.

I see no evidence of a healing factor. Rather, he shrugged it off.

But I digress.

We are off topic.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
If we're talking Wolverine from Hulk Vs Wolverine, then he wins this.



Because Sabretooth looked like a hobo and the acting was abominable.

2 had some decent action but that's it.

-AC


i do agree with you on the sabretooth thing, and they didnt use cyclops as well as they should have but on the acting i guess thats just ur opinnion

The Yautja especially if he's in the mold of Wolf. Stabs will do damage but it's not like it's gonna be a one punch fight. Wolf was throwing Aliens around with his bare hands.